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SADDAM’S HANGING -- UNCUT
December 30, 2006 6:34 PM
Several hours after Saddam Hussein was hanged this morning in Baghdad, the state-run television channel, Iraqia, began to run edited video, without sound, of the run-up to the hanging. The video shows Saddam being guided up the steps to the top of the gallows, a scarf being put around his neck and then the noose placed over his head and tightened on his neck. Then it stops. This footage, about a minute long, was played and replayed over and over during the day, and quickly found its way onto all major television stations around the world.
Later this evening, another video of the hanging popped up, this time being shown on Al-Jazeera and Arabiya, two Arabic TV channels based in the Gulf. The new video was of poor quality, was very jerky, and had clearly been shot on a cell phone or some similar device from below by one of the two dozen witnesses to the event. It also had sound. The picture it gave of Saddam’s last moments was very different from the edited, silent version that the Iraqi government had released earlier.
There are five men in black face masks who are visible on the gallows platform around Saddam, acting as guards. As they guide him towards the trap door and put the noose over his head, they start chanting religious slogans with the names of Moqtada al Sadr (the head of the Mahdi army, accused of organizing death squads against Sunnis) and Baqr al Sadr (the father-in-law of Moqtada). Saddam, a Sunni, is outraged at this last-minute provocation, and tells them to “go to hell.” This is generally where the two TV stations cut the video, but on at least one occasion that we saw, Arabiya allowed the video to keep rolling: The cell phone camera is jerked down to the ground, as if the person holding it had to conceal the camera, then it is slowly raised up to Saddam again, and suddenly his body shoots down through the trapdoor. At this, the Arabiya anchor came on and made a scissors symbol with two fingers with a mischievous grin on his face, as if to say that they really shouldn’t have shown that, but so be it. A cynical voyeuristic ploy, nudge nudge wink wink…
However, the impact of this video could be quite significant. First, it may reinforce Sunni suspicions that the execution of Saddam was merely an act of Shiite revenge for decades of repression under Saddam. The building where the execution took place was expressly chosen because it was once used as a detention center by a division of Saddam’s secret police that was focused on the Shiite Dawa party. Some of the witnesses whom the government invited to the execution had themselves once been tortured in that same building. Indeed, Prime Minister Maliki, who signed the execution order the day before the hanging, is a long-term member of the Dawa party and had himself been sentenced to death by Saddam back in 1980 before fleeing the country.
Worse, it may also reinforce the fears of Sunnis that Maliki’s government is beholden to the Mahdi army, Moqtada’s militia. Executions are generally expected to be solemn affairs –- certainly not opportunities for thugs to score some final sectarian points before the “enemy” is disposed of. The video itself seems quite distasteful –- but it is informative to the extent that it reveals the political baggage that the current government carries on its shoulders. It does not add up to a pretty picture.
December 30, 2006 | Permalink | User Comments (269)
I am sure this has made alot of people happy, and some sad. How can his daughters plead for him a new trial, when he had their husbands killed?
Posted by: diane bruce | Dec 30, 2006 7:31:51 PM
This is an excellent way to help stir up much needed civil war in the Muslim world. I have long believed that instead of Bush/Cheney/Rice/etc we need Richelieu/Fr. Tremblay. The latter were the pair of French notables who manipulated princes/kings/nobles and Popes in the effort to destroy the Hapsburg hegemony over Europe, unite France and engage French hegemony over Europe. They were successful. After the 30 years war all had changed in the way they desired.
This is the future of the Muslim world. Whatever may divide it and contribute to war and chaos is to our benefit
See a book by Aldous Huxley published in 1941
Posted by: Dale | Dec 30, 2006 7:35:06 PM
I'm just shocked that the video originally viewed in the US was even show in its entirety. Not that most are squemish, but based on the fact that anyone on death row in the US would've had their footage shown on tv. But the new video brings up one huge point - the Iraqi Gov't is being led by people with a singular agenda set by a cleric that is just as insane as Hussein ever was. I vote to pull our troops out and let the entire region fight it out amongst themselves. That's what they want to do anyway. Besides, it also helps to have the militant groups dwindle their own numbers for when we go back when we run low on oil supplies again.
Okay, rambling here...good day, Saddam. I said good DAY.
Posted by: JohnyG | Dec 30, 2006 7:57:18 PM
The article is fine until the editorial at the end. Hopefully everyone will realise the difference between reporting the facts and the last 2 paragraphs, which is oppinion and political spin.
I'm not happy that a man is dead, but it's good to put Hussein behind us (and the world).
Some will use this as a rallying point for violence, but the violence would have been there anyways, as it always is in that part of the world, with or without the execution.
When we leave (as we are leaving, most likely) I believe that a large part of the middle east will erupt into war as the powers in the area, both domestic and from the surrounding countries, "pick at the bones" of Iraq. We tried very hard to avoid this by staying and working so long on a new Iraqi government, but overestimated the situation I'm afraid.
Posted by: Rod | Dec 30, 2006 8:03:22 PM
This hanging was done by someone who knew exactly what he was doing. Look at how much slack there was in the rope. It was a "long drop", and there was a pipe hidden in the hangman's knot, so that the rope wouldn't catch. His neck is clearly broken, and witnesses report that he died almost immediately. Definitely, a pro job. The typical Middle East hanging is a slow strangulation.
Posted by: Ray | Dec 30, 2006 8:10:29 PM
Let the Arab/gulf nations go to war, and let America stay at home and watch. They seem to like the whole brother against brother thing.
Posted by: Mr. Ryan | Dec 30, 2006 8:34:15 PM
The Muslims will always have a hate for the USA as long we are trying to talk our way to peace.
We must be more brutal and than the enemy.
This what they believe and respect. Civilians is the Muslim Army. It can be used to accuse that our military are killing civilians, then we put our young men on trialfor murder. Get the government out of running the war and put our generals back in charge. When have we let the civilians keep weapons? If they have a weapon then they must be terrist. The USA have lost the respect for battle back in Vietnam.
Posted by: Jerry | Dec 30, 2006 8:35:19 PM
Interesting....provocitive. But not unexpected. The Iraqi government no doubt had complete control over the environment, and a leak of this sort should come as no suprise. Nor should the fact that these guys were getting last minute jabs in on a man who had persecuted them. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but the fact remains that the death solves nothing. It only reignites more violence and polarization. Iraq has now become a complete mess. The US military isn't to blame. They have their hands tied by weak leadership.
Saddam should have been burned at the stake for what he did to his own people, but he hasn't been America's biggest concern for three years...
Posted by: Danny | Dec 30, 2006 8:35:54 PM
Once again. Over and over. ABC, and all forms of media, have not given us the facts BUT THEIR OPINION OF THE FACTS. New York Times account said that America was dividing up the spoils of Saddam before his execution (as this was a crucification from long ago). Stop! Be fact-relayers and let us form our own opinions. Don't tell us what our opinions should be. We don't need you to be sportswriters that are reporting news.
Posted by: Ken | Dec 30, 2006 8:36:33 PM
Good Riddance!
Posted by: Di | Dec 30, 2006 8:50:29 PM
I only wish that more effort had been made by main stream media to make known the crimes of this mad man.
The same sort of people who would sit by and let this man stay in power, are the same kind of people who would walk by and let a child be molested. "It isn't affecting me."
His death is a good thing, if only for the new airing of his biography.
Posted by: Maggie in Texas | Dec 30, 2006 8:50:53 PM
No one ever talked their way into peace. No peace was ever accomplished without a total military victory. This execution was a long overdue event. If we (the US and our allies) could do this to him (Saddam) we could do it to any other tin pot despot.
Posted by: Rodeny | Dec 30, 2006 8:52:44 PM
I think the execution was premature. Sadam should have stood trial for ALL of the crimes against humanity. If there would have been more trials there would have been official transcripts of his crimes complete with evidence. This would have made a more complete official record of Sadam's regime. Also those who were unable to face their former Dictator in court must feel as though their's was not as important as the other.
Posted by: Michael54 | Dec 30, 2006 8:55:39 PM
he is dead, that is a great thing, LETS MOVE ON!!!!
Posted by: FRA | Dec 30, 2006 9:00:53 PM
Well reported by ABC. Their reporting may not suit some peoples' ideologies. I salute their courage in reporting it the way it happened.
Posted by: dlbarber1954 | Dec 30, 2006 9:04:56 PM
This is the first time i have visited this site.
To the authors comment that executions are supposed to be "solemn occasions", maybe in the US, but in much of the Muslim world they are an occasion for extreme theatrics. In fact, hangings are typically done not with a traditional "old west" trap door (like was performed in Saddam), but rather by a pulley/hoist, that instead of snapping the neck, gradually strangles the individual over a period of minutes.
Posted by: brett | Dec 30, 2006 9:07:27 PM
For those of you who seem to be on the President Hate Wing, are you saying that it was okay then for Saddam to continue as dictator, doing the abhorrant behavior he was doing and gaining ground on future WMD's?
I've been trying to understand this position of people since the start of the war and have not been satisfied to any answer. Anyone want to take a stab at it?
Cheers
Posted by: Greg | Dec 30, 2006 9:08:54 PM
Saddam was also responsible for the greatest waste of natural resources in history. The IMAX version of the burning of Kuwait shows how utterly stupid and purely vengeful his actions were. In addition to burning countless barrels of oil he scarred the atmosphere for years. Why? It caused death, wasted precious resources and gained him nothing. Pure hatred for the world. Glad to see him gone for that alone.
Posted by: Mike | Dec 30, 2006 9:11:10 PM
Pray for his soul, and all others. Love and Compassion is the only way war will end. It is possible.
Posted by: j | Dec 30, 2006 9:12:24 PM
I am surprised at the number of people who think the job of the journalist is to report only the facts. It is context and analysis that give facts meaning. I fear that what I am seeing is the result of the right-wing "attack the messenger" machine in action. Apparently it has worked quite well in persuading the Rush Limbaugh crowd that anything they don't want to hear is the fault of the reporter and not the facts on the ground.
Posted by: Bonnie | Dec 30, 2006 9:14:32 PM
Well, the insainity of Saddam's life is finally over. Saddam is out of the way and the people of Iraq and the rest of the free world is finally smiling. President Bush and President W can breath a little bit easy. The right move was made. James A. "Kentucky"
Posted by: James A. Muncy, Jr. | Dec 30, 2006 9:15:14 PM
Maybe now we can focus on the escalating sectarian violence between Sunnis and Shiites as well as the violence between different Shiite sects. Maybe now we can focus on finding Osama Bin Laden (you know, the guy who started this war) or dealing with the influx of foreign fighters into Iraq. Iraq is now the biggest recruiting ground for terrorists in the world. Maybe with Saddam out of the way we can deal with the many Saudi-backed terrorist organizations (that will never happen, Saudi Arabia gives us too much money and oil).
$300 billion in the drain and what do we have to show for it? An executed dictator? Saddam is dead. Great. Awesome. This is by no means a turning point in the War on Terror.
Posted by: Brett | Dec 30, 2006 9:16:20 PM
just to let you know that all your news report are too negative are JUST TOO NEGATIVE...AND I STILL BELEIVE THAT THERE'S STILL good things that came out of Iraq in some ways..although Idont agree for the prolong stay of the military over there...
Posted by: sfd | Dec 30, 2006 9:19:36 PM
Now that saddam is gone, I wonder if Bush is actually gonig to care about Americans and our invasion in our own country by illegal aliens
Posted by: kathy | Dec 30, 2006 9:20:50 PM
Its amazing. ABC starts out with a news report and then evolves to commentary...where the attitudes of the reporter shine thru... I agree... its BS!
Posted by: TRG | Dec 30, 2006 9:21:12 PM
My only complaint is that it took too long to carry out the execution. Granted it was much shorter than the crappy 20+ years we have to wait in this country. I just hope the other 2 executed with him got to watch Saddam get it first.
Posted by: John | Dec 30, 2006 9:21:24 PM
"$300 billion in the drain and what do we have to show for it? An executed dictator? Saddam is dead. Great. Awesome. This is by no means a turning point in the War on Terror."
No, it isn't, if anything it will only escalate things, but it just gives neo-cons that warm feeling if we get to kill somebody, especially during the holidays. Makes em feel like they really are tough guys.
Posted by: Dave | Dec 30, 2006 9:21:51 PM
Saddam was butcher, but what we have know is worst. At least with Saddam with had a buffer against the Iranians, now they control half of Iraq! Bush is a idiot! We should have went after Osama in full force, this war is made to make Cheney and his friends rich! I pray our troops stay safe, my brother and brother-in-law are both over there, its gotten really bad!
Posted by: Sheila | Dec 30, 2006 9:22:43 PM
Saddam "Insane" Husseins death is about two and a half years too late.
He should have been terminated a long time ago for history is already showing the U.S. and Coalitions military feat as one of histories swiftest victories. What remained of Iraq was being run as best as possible under military authority. It wasn't until civilian authority under Paul Bremer, discharging a million man Iraqi army that Iraqi unrest began. Middle Easterners by large only understand absolute power. It became politics as usual and nothing was getting accomplished!
Hmmm, perhaps the U.S. military should control our U.S. immigration problem????
Posted by: dane | Dec 30, 2006 9:33:58 PM
The execution makes for great sensationalism. I query whether the present complicated situation in Iraq results from error or intent.
Posted by: JJ Gatos | Dec 30, 2006 9:34:44 PM
I still say, God Bless America and those who stand up for Her.
Posted by: Bob Pollock | Dec 30, 2006 9:36:47 PM
How one chooses to characterize Saddam is no longer important. What should be remembered is that he was tried before a court where one judge quit because of government pressure and interference, three lawyers were killed, the lawyers remaining were often ousted from the courtroom, witnesses testified behind a screen without revealing their identity and so many more transgressions against the fundamental notions of fair play that it was a farce. Whether justice prevailed is the opinion of the observer. That this trial was a mockery is a fact. No sentence of death should ever be tolerated from such a kangaroo court.
Posted by: Jay Baker | Dec 30, 2006 9:37:09 PM
I wish no violence upon any man but instead a fair and honest treatment responding to his actions. Saddam Hussein got what he deserved and many more shall follow.
Posted by: Mallim | Dec 30, 2006 9:37:30 PM
Those who complain (to some extent correctly) that we supported Saddam in the past and helped "stabilize" his gulag insist that this was "our fault."
In fact, dealing with despots and warlords has always been a vexing problem. In those past years, we were fighting Communism, and made "mistakes" in our efforts. That included helping tyrants who were "on our side."
Saddam was a murderous despot, who, by the accounting of Iraq's own United Nations representative...was responsible for over 2 million Muslim deaths...in various guises.
When Stalin developed pneumonia after a drunk, his chief of police Beria threatened anyone who would help him would be subject to arrest...Stalin died.
It's not unreasonable for those who were victimized by Saddam or their families would want to be around and taunt him at his impending death. By Arab standards, it was quite mild and his hangman excellent.
Observers said they heard his neck snap immediately. He died instantly. Chances are it was completely painless too.
That quiet and immediate death was not granted to any of his over 2 million victims, was it?
Mike
Posted by: Mike | Dec 30, 2006 9:39:32 PM
Umm, the last two paragraphs are not "spin" or "commentary" they are "analysis." If the hard facts are correct in this story, and there is no reason to believe they are not, this execution just made Saddam in to a martyr. Screaming supports for al-Sadr duringa state execution is insane & goes to prove that it is hard to tell who has lost Iraq, but it is clear the Shia & the Iranians have won it.
Posted by: anon | Dec 30, 2006 9:43:46 PM
There is no excuse for the death penalty. He should have been put in an international prison for the rest of his life-kept from contact with other prisoners and not allowed guests. No TV or creature comforts-- similar to how they treated some of the NAZI war criminals. I don't care how you justify it....the death penalty is morally wrong. Killing other humans is wrong and never can be justified. It would have been more fitting punishment to spend the rest of his days in a prison cell. By killing him, we have allowed him an easy way out of a life of torment in a jail cell. Death was his escape and we allowed it. Shame on us all. Murdering is wrong.
Posted by: gary mercer | Dec 30, 2006 9:44:59 PM
"Executions are generally expected to be solemn affairs –- certainly not opportunities for thugs to score some final sectarian points before the “enemy” is disposed of."
So, Terry McArthy, what are you most annoyed about? That Iraqis can't/won't follow our scrupulously antiseptic approach to putting down the mad dogs in our own society? Or is it about your earlier comment how this will be seen more as Shiite payback? Make up your mind, man.
The Iraqis lived through hell because of this animal. Your 20 years reporting on "war, peace and everything in between" certainly tells you as much. This may be just me, but I'm inclined to give them at least as much of a learning curve as the relatives of Jeffrey Dahmer's victims' families had when given the opportunity to testify before THAT animal was put away. He was a piker compared to Saddam.
Baby steps, pal. Think: baby steps.
Posted by: Jeff Kocur | Dec 30, 2006 9:45:34 PM
I found this article very interesting, thank you very much. When I say the TV clip where they just show the noose going on and that's it, it seemed like everything was pretty decent and peaceful. The guards just doing their job, guiding Saddam. When I watched the cell phone video, it seemed rather chaotic and unprofessional.
Posted by: R | Dec 30, 2006 9:47:49 PM
Nice "reporting," Terry. In addition to all of your other "relevant facts," including your uninformed predictions about how this video will mean bad things for America, you forgot to mention the most important fact underlying your "report"--that you want us all to vote for Kucinich in 2008.
Posted by: Eric | Dec 30, 2006 9:56:48 PM
The death of a human being should never be a cause for celebration. While justice was carried out. we should not rejoice in the death of anyone but should be saddened by the depraved nature of man and the sinful acts undertaken.
Posted by: Christian | Dec 30, 2006 10:00:31 PM
There is nothing wrong with killing a mass murderer. It is a good thing. It was the right thing to do.
Posted by: alacrity | Dec 30, 2006 10:00:39 PM
The hanging of Saddam Hussein is something that was a long time coming. The people in our country that are in charge deserve respect, no matter what political party you are affiliated with. The majority of people elected them. If you agree with them or not you should still respect their authority and power. This was and is not a war over oil, if it were then we would already have what we wanted and be gone. Due to the fact that we were not elected into our nation's highest offices ourselves we are not privileged to all of the intelligence that they have, nor should we be. Some things are just best left to those who are "equipped," for lack of a better word to handle these matters. I believe that everyone will receive what he or she deserves in the end; we all have to answer to someone in the end.
Posted by: Melissa | Dec 30, 2006 10:04:46 PM
The people in that part of the world have been killing each other for centuries....America saying a democracy will form is foolish.....In addition, religious racism is the most vicious form....I am a normal American with a family to raise and believe in conservative values..however I also believe there is corruption in our government.....If we really cared about protecting our country we would seal the borders with our millitary and take it from there.
Posted by: jeff | Dec 30, 2006 10:10:56 PM
What is wrong with the guards singing Shiite songs. They are Shia and it is an execution where culturally they are allowed to sing their songs- so what?
Iraqi's cannot expect to feel liberated as long as Saddam could break out of a jail cell as he did earlier in his life. They deserve him dead but nobody deserves to go thru a meatgrinder period. The execution was very dignified and low tech: no drugs, no guns, no electricity- just gravity.
Saddam also was dignified in advising the Iraqi people to stop fighting and also not to hate Americans just the current leadership.
Let us hope that the death of Saddam will bring relief to many people in Iraq. They, including many Sunis who also were killed by him, deserve closure.
I do not agree with Bush going to war but this execution was just and controlled by the US forces- of course! The insurgents break into any policestation they want to.
We need to get out. Vote for Dennis Kucinich for President- he will cut off all funds for these blasted war pofiteers. They should have provided jobs for locals rather than millions for Halliburton and they had no business using Abu Ghrab for any use. It was haunted.
Posted by: Gudrun Scott | Dec 30, 2006 10:12:42 PM
After all this, bottom line is we still dont have Osama who was biiiiiig master mind of 9/11. Saddam though he did what he did ...may be he deserved it ...but i will looking forward to the day we catch OSAMA pple .... closure on all the americans , Tanzanians and Kenyans that have lost part of their family in the last decade.Why cant we invade North Korea like it happened in iraq ...and we know for sure they got the damn weapons . Raise Eyebrows a lot ...but then u would like to sit for talks with them and not others .....EQUAL JUSTICE TO ALL.
Good nite all .... I DONT SUPPORT THE WAR ......
Posted by: Shiko | Dec 30, 2006 10:13:05 PM
Look guys, I am a good patriotic American country boy, but folks it is just sick to take pleasure in the death of someone.
Bush whom I voted for in 2000 (and voted straight ticket Republican) has made some bad choices, and our soldiers deaths and the "collateral damage" isn't worth watching Saddam meet Allah.
I don't care how many people Saddam murdered and tortured, if he could be held for the rest of his life in prision in some stable place like one of the Europeon countries it should have been done. And don't try to tell me that Saddam was tried and excuted by an Iraqi government, that just folly to believe.
I'm from Texas where we have an express lane in death row. I used to believe in the death penalty, and still do if a person cannot be held indefinately in jail.
America has become an empire and we are messing in too many peoples buisness. It is time we got back to a Jefersonian form of foreign policy.
"Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others? Or have we found angels in the forms of kings to govern him? Let history answer this question."
"Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations - entangling alliance with none."
--Thomas Jefferson - First Inaugural Address
Posted by: Equus Pallidus | Dec 30, 2006 10:16:53 PM
I am rather perplexed by those who have argued that the legitimate act of a sovereign government, in the execution of a man responsible for killing somewhere around half a million people, could somehow "spark violence in Iraq". The simple fact of the matter is that under Saddam's rule violence occurred with great regularity... it's just that the state was slaughtering people, not fascist militiamen! If only ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and FOX were there to reveal his atrocities... but then again, they would have been the subject of his atrocities!
Posted by: Michael | Dec 30, 2006 10:18:36 PM
For all the people complaining about the uncut Saddam video;
Have you forgotten that Saddam murdered millions of Iraqi's?
Saddam got his just desserts, just like the Nazi's at Nuremberg.
Naturally, Saddam was scared a the end because he knew the next thing he would be seeing would be lava, flames and a guy in a red suit with a pitchfork.
Posted by: Reality | Dec 30, 2006 10:24:32 PM
Even though a person might merit such a death, we should never rejoice over it.
Posted by: Rich | Dec 30, 2006 10:26:58 PM
Terry McCarthy's piece here isn't the greatest example... but he tends to add too much commentary and personal bias to his work. If you have any doubt, then simply listen to his filings for ABC radio. I won't say for one second he doesn't have a right to his opinions, that he isn't educated or the like... but to disguise his work as one of a "reporter" does little justice to ABC news.
Posted by: Stinger | Dec 30, 2006 10:28:54 PM
President Bush's comments on the death of Saddam show his lack of leadership and character. To glorify and celebrate any man's death or demise is proof of a sick and decadent society.
GOD help us Americans that refuse to wake up!
But why are we surprised?
For one, this is the very same man who drove through Congress HR 6166 and condones the use of torture, not to mention his complete pillaging of our Constitution and the ILLEGAL invasion of a soveriegn nation who neither attacked us or posed any threat against us.
Now more than 500,000 Iraqi's are dead along with our sons and daughters of America sent to their deaths on a diabolical LIE (WMD's)
George Bush has inflamed the entire middle east region and has not once lifted his finger to any sort of foreign policy that leads to a peaceful solution. He has created MORE terrorists that Bin Laden could ever wish to create. My fellow Americans... WAKE UP!
Posted by: Anthony | Dec 30, 2006 10:30:08 PM
Saddam paid for his crimes with his life. Justice was swift and fair. Our country (US) did prop up Saddam to fight against the Iranians. At the time, who knows really, but we sided with the lesser of two evils. Or so we thought. There is a certain hypcorisy however. Genocide is occuring even as we type God Bless America and debate Saddam, yet nobody is yelling for any military to stop the genocide in Africa. I'll be blunt; it's because the voters and the people in power, really don't care. And that's a shame.
Posted by: James | Dec 30, 2006 10:31:09 PM
in american hands he was healthy. our media apologised for decades. W's turnover ended quick. sweet historic justice!
Posted by: Geo | Dec 30, 2006 10:39:54 PM
Our republic is in disarray. there is no accountability in Washington and career politicians have zero respect for our blessed Constitution while liberty is being sacrificed on the altar of "The War On Terror." What good is it to defend freedom abroad when we are being asked to give up our liberties here at home?
I tell you truly, this is not the America our founding fathers envisioned.
America is the final bastion of freedom and it's up to you and me to safeguard our freedom here at home. It is our sacred duty. We cannot be fearful, and we must never become a nation of cowards, but we must be the light that shines to other nations and the champion of human rights. America is the home of the brave so let freedom ring!
Posted by: Anthony Tomei | Dec 30, 2006 10:40:40 PM
WoW... The American unity is certainly showing tonight. It's because of the "uniter not the divider" in highest office. What's next? If we do like it, we can leave? Because that little gem never gets old
Posted by: James | Dec 30, 2006 10:42:00 PM
It is time that this perpertrator be brought low. I am not entirely sure that Iraq will become the democratic bastion that we would like to see. The author of this piece of garbage is indeed more commentator that reporter. One thing is for sure and that is America should not have gone in with kid gloves if we were going in. A country with people such as Al Sadr who are tolerated is not a country that will remain free for long. Before we leave we should give great thought to finally go through and systematically war against both Sunni and Shiite that do not pledge with a blood oath to defend the rights of all Iraqi citizens. Iraq has many brilliant hard working people along with vast resources. These people should not be brutalized or their resources ravaged for a couple of thugs in one part of the country. The war will need to be fierce without any talk of giving up until they sue for peace, not in the UN but with the American-British face to face. Only then after they have been completely fought will they be willing to submit to the authority of the new government. I along with many othe Americans want only good things for the people of Iraq, it is now the time of the Iraqis to stand up for what can be a wonderful future. Think of it they could blaze a trail for a new way of organizing and responding to each other in that part of the world. After this war is truly finished and that means that we stop acting with half measures will we see the new future that we have all been talking about.
Posted by: Tom in Sacramento | Dec 30, 2006 10:42:44 PM
Saddam was executed for the 182 people he belived were responsible for an attempt on his life at a time when he was our ally. Yet US forces and the Bush Administration is responsible for the deaths of over 10,000 innocent Iraqis. Just who is the terrorist?
I know Fox will have you believe our torture, rapes and coward murders of innocent women & children in Iraq was/is "isolated"...but as President/Dictator of Iraq while we were his pal, Saddam could do whatever he wanted...that's what Bush does.
Posted by: Rusty | Dec 30, 2006 10:44:46 PM
A quote from the Great Hope of the Democratic Party:
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), October 10, 2002
Posted by: Chris | Dec 30, 2006 10:47:04 PM
A quote from The Great Dope of the Democratic Party:
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..." - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), January 23. 2003
Posted by: Chris | Dec 30, 2006 10:52:20 PM
Madeline "Two Face" Albright is always good for a chuckle:
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton’s Secretary of State, November 10, 1999
Posted by: Chris | Dec 30, 2006 10:56:17 PM
Yes , its all crystal clear to me now. 400 billion dollars , countless Iraqi citizens dead as well 3000 of our own troops dead, and 10,000 troops disabled , who knows how many deaths of our " contractors". How will our kids and grandkids pay for this? All I can say is, they will pay and pay dearly, as will we. Very very poor planning by our so called "leaders" to clearly see the outcome of our occupying the nation of Iraq. It makes me very sad for the future of our nation.
Posted by: George | Dec 30, 2006 11:00:43 PM
The democratic party believed what we all did... That there was an actual threat of attack from Saddam. It turned out to be false... Unless all classified info is declassified we will never know who knew what in the lead up to the war. The bush haters can say he lied.. The Democratic Party haters can say, SEE they helped get us into it. Regardless, even if you hold office, you are human and prone to error. Just like the war was bungled and messed up, so was the information that lead us to it...
Posted by: James | Dec 30, 2006 11:03:26 PM
Combating evil for evil always fails in the end.
Posted by: Rochelle | Dec 30, 2006 11:11:00 PM
"The article is fine until the editorial at the end. Hopefully everyone will realise the difference between reporting the facts and the last 2 paragraphs, which is oppinion and political spin". I totally agree. Sometimes it seems there is an element in this country that always wants to worst to happen or to portray this country in a negative light.
I do not disagree with the death penalty and if anyone deserves it, it is Saddam, however, this whole hanging thing seems very barbaric to me.
On a slightly different note, Americans need to pay attention to what Iran, Venezula, and some other Arab countries are doing in regards to efforts to key the price of oil to the euro instead of the dollar. The eventually effect of this should it happen, will hit most Americans where it hurts the most--the pocketbook!
Posted by: dpp | Dec 30, 2006 11:11:15 PM
Notwithstanding the fact we should not be in Iraq in the first place, I think Saddam's execution should be touted as you screw with America, this is what you end up with....dead and a couple of inches taller.
Posted by: Philip | Dec 30, 2006 11:11:47 PM
To be honest with you this doesn't look good. People would still see this as our intervention in Iraq's affair since we are still an occupying force. World will think that somehow we "Americans" also took part in saddam's execution. We should have left Iraq first and then let Iraqis decide saddam's fate. But now we "americans" have to pay the price for it for years to come, You will see what I mean here.God Bless America.
Posted by: tony | Dec 30, 2006 11:12:04 PM
What you people don't see is that Bush had no point in getting saddam, how many americans did saddam killed? when was the last time bush did something for the united states, he is only getting revenge for his father. why do bush have to control what other countries do? that is none of his business.
when was the last time bush mentioned the fact that he is supposed to make the united states a safe place, what will saddam's dead accomplish? how many families have this war destroyed?, how many disables? but where is bush for those american families that had suffered because their love ones died or injured in this "pointless" war
The one that should have been killed was bin laden, but obviously bush is not worry about it....
Posted by: kiria | Dec 30, 2006 11:13:10 PM
To Ponder...if we ever do get Bin Laden, what would we have to fight for? He is much more effective to the political/military machine on the run than dead. ever consider that?
Posted by: Craig | Dec 30, 2006 11:16:31 PM
Thomas Paine commented on the timing of war during another time of strife in our history:
"THESE are the times that try men's souls...I once felt all that kind of anger, which a man ought to feel, against the mean principles that are held by the Tories: a noted one, who kept a tavern at Amboy, was standing at his door, with as pretty a child in his hand, about eight or nine years old, as I ever saw, and after speaking his mind as freely as he thought was prudent, finished with this unfatherly expression, "Well! give me peace in my day." Not a man lives on the continent but fully believes that a separation must some time or other finally take place, and a generous parent should have said, "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;" and this single reflection, well applied, is sufficient to awaken every man to duty"
"The Crisis," December 23,1776
I chose peace for my children.
Posted by: jks | Dec 30, 2006 11:23:27 PM
Saddam deserved to die. Ok. However, did he do the atrocities alone? No. Is it not that, instead of having him face a real tribunal - like in the Hague - and being charged not only for killing 143 , but for gassing the Kurds, someone preferred to have him gone quickly. This way nothing can be revealed of perhaps the role of some other country in this and who the cronies were !!!
Posted by: Shfra | Dec 30, 2006 11:27:51 PM
Out of curiosity, didn't ABC show the video of an American soldier being hit by a sniper? Have they ever replayed the Kennedy assassination? Apparently only seeing Americans murdered is tasteful for ABC. Why there is not an American boycott of this "news" organization is beyond me. Even a liberal has to agree with me on this.
Posted by: Dave Z. | Dec 30, 2006 11:28:20 PM
Our republic is in disarray. there is no accountability in Washington and career politicians have zero respect for our blessed Constitution while liberty is being sacrificed on the altar of "The War On Terror." What good is it to defend freedom abroad when we are being asked to give up our liberties here at home?
I tell you truly, this is not the America our founding fathers envisioned.
America is the final bastion of freedom and it's up to you and me to safeguard our freedom here at home. It is our sacred duty. We cannot be fearful, and we must never become a nation of cowards, but we must be the light that shines to other nations and the champion of human rights. America is the home of the brave so let freedom ring!
Posted by: Anthony Tomei | Dec 30, 2006 11:29:34 PM
Let’s face this; we wouldn’t even care if the likes of an evil person were hung if there were no oil connected to his name. However, when dictators begin to kick the west out and take charge of oil money for their own evil deeds anybody with half a brain should know the world cant sit ideally by while of 1/3 the worlds wealth gets funneled to fanatical dictators. Oh yea there are brutal regimes in Africa, or elsewhere nobody cares about, but then again they aint going to be financing wmds with billion dollar budgets either,,, gee some people in the world are so clueless, or live in bubble which is downright irresponsible if that they just cant get it and blame this all on Bush.
Posted by: stacey | Dec 30, 2006 11:31:51 PM
A day maybe two before you get the wackos start the rumors that "soddom" is alive.Saddam, Elvis and Jim Morrrison throwing back a few cold ones at the cantina. Liberals crack me up!!
Posted by: David G | Dec 30, 2006 11:35:33 PM
Iraqi justice calls for the condemned to be executed promptly. No ACLU lawyers. No liberal appeals court. No 20 years of endless media handwringing. No drooling actors befriending the "dead man walking". They just DID IT!!
Good for Them! Their "chaotic" new system works better than ours!!
Posted by: McT | Dec 30, 2006 11:37:04 PM
Being against the war does not automatically imply that someone is a Democrat. I look with censure upon any Democratic official who felt it fitting to proclaim "WMDS!", lulled as they were by the "official" line.
America may "win" some murky gain it contrues as desirable, but certainly will not emerge the better for hopes of being "more brutal than the enemy" as some over here have glibly urged.
Posted by: Beketaten | Dec 30, 2006 11:39:49 PM
what goes around comes around, karma,HaHaHa the world is a better place without him.....
Posted by: mike | Dec 30, 2006 11:47:31 PM
I agree with poster Di.
If the Media would of spent 1/10th of the amount of space on the atrocities and true toll of human life. If people like Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon, and Michael Moore spent a tiny amount of their lives actually paying attention to the real story of this man and what he did to that country. If Francis Ford Coppola would make a movie out this story, all the sheep who believe the mainstream media and NYT, might actually have understood what a evil evil man this was.
Instead they will just keep bashing America, as usual, ignorant of the facts.
Chronicle of the atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein:
Hussein's regime killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and its neighbors for over two decades.
Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of Saddam's actions.
Saddam had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.
1980-88: Iran-Iraq war left 150,000 to 340,000 Iraqis and 450,000 to 730,000 Iranians dead.
1983-1988: Documented chemical attacks by Iraqi regime caused some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.
1988: Chemical attack on Kurdish village of Halabja killed approximately 5,000 people.
1987-1988: Iraqi regime used chemical agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages.
1990-91: 1,000 Kuwaitis were killed in Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.
1991: Bloody suppression of Kurdish and Shi'a uprisings in northern and southern Iraq killed at least 30,000 to 60,000. At least 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign
2001: Amnesty International report: "Victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks... some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."
Human Rights Watch: Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds.
Refugees International: "Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis."
Iraq's 13 million Shiite Muslims, the majority of Iraq's population of approximately 22 million, faced severe restrictions on their religious practice.
FBI: Iraqi government was involved in a plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait.
The Iraqi regime has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors.
Posted by: ll | Dec 30, 2006 11:57:38 PM
Unfortunately, Saddam's rule left many ignorant behind over the last 30 years. It will be hard to teach the now socialistic, unemployed, dependant, brain washed, and ignorant that the US was there to help.
The new world order will need to incorporate a lot more human intelligence (quality spys) and a smarter way to conduct war (no tanks, no armys or marines). You fill in the blanks.
Posted by: rsh | Dec 30, 2006 11:58:01 PM
I once knew a man from Bagdad, his death did not make me sad sad,