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Sixty Senate Democrats? Play the Odds
October 28, 2008 8:41 AM
The conviction of Alaska Republican Sen. Ted Stevens makes the possibility of Democrats getting a 60-vote filibuster-proof majority in the Senate more plausible than ever.
Stevens, convicted on seven federal charges of false statements and financial irregularities, is up for re-election next week.
John McCain is calling for Stevens to step down.
"It is a sign of the health of our democracy that the people continue to hold their representatives to account for improper or illegal conduct, but this verdict is also a sign of the corruption and insider dealing that has become so pervasive in our nation's capital," McCain said in a released statement today. "It is clear that Senator Stevens has broken his trust with the people and that he should now step down."
Just as Senate campaigns are cutting John McCain loose, McCain appears to be sacrificing Stevens' GOP senate seat in the hopes of saving himself.
Incumbent Sen. Susan Collins, R-Me., criticized McCain's robocalls. Gordon Smith, R-Ore., has used Obama in television ads. And in the key battleground state of North Carolina, Republican Sen. Elizabeth Dole failed to appear at recent McCain events and ran a divided government ad against her Democratic challenger Kay Hagan that implicitly assumed an Obama win.
If anyone can win in the face of this scandal it is Ted Stevens. But Republican campaign officials believe he is likely to lose his seat.
There are 11 "at-risk" Republican Senate seats, including Alaska, Oregon, New Mexico, Colorado, Minnesota, Mississippi, Georgia, Kentucky, North Carolina, New Hampshire and Virginia.
Playing the odds: Remember, Democrats need to pick up nine Senate seats to get to 60 votes.
If Stevens loses Alaska, that's one seat down for Republicans.
Right now, Democrats are comfortably ahead in Colorado, New Mexico and Virginia. That gets them up four Senate seats.
Democrats are also ahead in Oregon, New Hampshire, Minnesota and North Carolina. That gets them to eight.
But for the Democrats to get to 60, they would have to crack one of these Southern states: Georgia, Mississippi, or Kentucky, home of minority leader Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
That's not likely, but Democrats are hoping for a 1980-like return when Ronald Reagan swept seats considered safe before Election Day.
The odds of Democrats winning these at-risk Republican seats?
Virginia - 98 percent
New Mexico and Colorado - 90 percent
Alaska - 80 percent
Oregon and New Hampshire - 70 percent
North Carolina - 65 percent
Minnesota - 60 percent
Georgia - 50-50 percent
Mississippi - 40 percent
Kentucky - 35 percent
Those are my best estimates, based on talks with Republican and Democratic strategists working the Senate races.
What are yours?
Also, Calculate the '08 Map to the White House, and run your own numbers on the path to 270 electoral votes.
--George Stephanopoulos
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The distribution in the Senate would be
Dems 58
Repubs 42
Posted by: Steve_NJ | Oct 28, 2008 9:13:58 AM
Do you think Joe Liberman will caucas with the Dems?
Posted by: MaryD | Oct 28, 2008 10:01:36 AM
Joe Liberman is finished as a democrat.
Posted by: stump | Oct 28, 2008 10:09:52 AM
Well, George, aren't you happy? You are one of the most biased people I have ever watched. We knew how liberal you were but when ABC took their liberalism on the air, we, and I do mean we, are not watching ABC anymore.
Now, that does not matter to you and we don't care who wins the election, but fair is fair and ABC is no longer fair.
Posted by: Janice | Oct 28, 2008 10:11:09 AM
Well, George, aren't you happy? You are one of the most biased people I have ever watched. We knew how liberal you were but when ABC took their liberalism on the air, we, and I do mean we, are not watching ABC anymore.
Now, that does not matter to you and we don't care who wins the election, but fair is fair and ABC is no longer fair.
Posted by: Janice | Oct 28, 2008 10:11:09 AM
Everyone needs to stop talking about 60 as a magic number. With Lieberman in there, the magic number is 61. And the odds of 61 happening are slim and none. Then end tally will be between 55 and 58.
Posted by: ElodieStClair | Oct 28, 2008 10:32:55 AM
McCain has no room to talk after the disgusting way he's run his campaign. I was willing to give him a serious look before he brought Palin onboard, but if he can't even manage his own campaign he has no credibility for attempting to manage the country. He and Palin looked like Hitler firing up Nazi youth in their hate mongering from the stage, playing on fears of the evangelicals, and thinly veiled racism. Both McCain and Palin should be off the national stage, not telling others like corrupt Senator Stevens what to do. McCain simply has no remaining moral credible authority to sit in judgment of anyone after what he's behaved.
Posted by: Robert | Oct 28, 2008 10:34:15 AM
Why would any side of the aisle want a crook in the senate? Sen. Stevens needs to go.
Posted by: Cindy | Oct 28, 2008 10:34:40 AM
Party doesn't matter. ANYONE in Congress convicted of crimes like Mr. Stevens was should resign. That goes for both parties.
Posted by: MyFellowAmericans | Oct 28, 2008 10:36:36 AM
McCain is quick to kick a fallen friend as Sen. Ted Stevens for being found quilty, but he backs Palin who has been found quilty of abusing the power in the same Alaska.
Typical political hypocrisy if you asked me.
Posted by: thinker | Oct 28, 2008 10:37:09 AM
Another rush to a statement and erratic grandstand by McCain in a feeble attempt to show leadership.
Posted by: dan | Oct 28, 2008 10:38:53 AM
Where is Obama on this? Still smoking crack as he did for 10 years in high school, college and grad school? He admits to it in his book. How come he is not subject to a drug test as most Aemricans are when they apply for a job?NO . . . he is the Messiah and above a drug test or any background test. Stupid liberals!
Posted by: Obama the Crack Addict | Oct 28, 2008 10:39:12 AM
Janice: "Well, George, aren't you happy? You are one of the most biased people I have ever watched. We knew how liberal you were but when ABC took their liberalism on the air, we, and I do mean we, are not watching ABC anymore. Now, that does not matter to you and we don't care who wins the election, but fair is fair and ABC is no longer fair."
So what the h-e-l-l are you doing on ABC's website????????
Posted by: Kitty Wilberforce | Oct 28, 2008 10:39:36 AM
naw, naw mccain. say it ain't so! how can you call on stevens to step down when palin was found guilty of abusing her power as governor in troopergate and you did nothing. the investigation into troopergate was by a bipartisan legislative group that found palin guilty. so, mccain, how come you didn't ask palin to resign from the ticket? both stevens and palin are in the bucket labeled corruption. makes no sense mccain to throw stevens under the bus but not your beloved running mate. palin stonewalled, ignored subpoenas, lied and she still believes she did nothing wrong. oh mccain, how low can you go? apparently, lower and lower. too bad, so sad. you were on many peoples pedestal but not anymore.
Posted by: Lawrence | Oct 28, 2008 10:39:45 AM
Good try. Kick a fallen friend for pure political gain. So he can argue that the Dem would control the Senate and that's why people have to vote for him as Prez. Senator, only somebody with mental problems would vote for you instead of Obama. Look, you are like an old car with 200K + miles. Who would buy that when they can buy a brand new car with all the latest features?
Posted by: Jack Server | Oct 28, 2008 10:41:41 AM
And meanwhile, Palin doesn't call for his resignation. . .but then, she pals around with convicted felons.
Posted by: kevinbgoode | Oct 28, 2008 10:41:47 AM
The Alaska Democratic Party also issued a statement calling for Stevens to resign, which is not a surprise. If Stevens wins the election and then resigns, do we end up with a Senator Palin by self appointment.
Posted by: bhciapol | Oct 28, 2008 10:42:22 AM
Well duh. He was conficted, so how could anyone want to have a guy like that? It's obvious to the anyone that he has to go, even if it means loosing a Senate seat to the Democrats. After this, I really can't see how anyone in Alaska would vote for this guy.
Posted by: GWP | Oct 28, 2008 10:42:41 AM
JAnice - Kitty raises and excellant point. Go blog on Fox or something and leave those of us who still trust ABC, CNN etal to ourselves. I read several sites and try to keep things in perspective about the journalists. They are people too.
Posted by: Jenny Rome Ga | Oct 28, 2008 10:42:50 AM
This is of course, nothing more than Politics As Usual..
-McCain does this to try to look like he fights corruption and is the reformer/clean up man.
-Obama couldn't do it as it would have looked like he was trying to get a Republican out of the Senate to further Democratic control...
Smart move on McCain and Obama's behalf.
Now, if only McCain would call on Gov. Palin to step down since she as well as her Alaskan counterpart Stevens, is guilty of ethics violations!
Posted by: PoliticsAsUsual | Oct 28, 2008 10:43:03 AM
I agree Sen. Stevens needs to quit, or the people of Alaska just need to vote him out. I'm for voting out the rest of the incumbents too. Abuse of power seems to come to easily for these guys and they don't seem to be doing a great job of running this country, republican or democrats. I voted early and voted against all the incumbents from my home state of Kentucky, no matter what their party affliliation was. (I never vote a straight party line). I'm for a government of check and balances.
Posted by: Susan Grambley | Oct 28, 2008 10:43:46 AM
Palin....are u going to be mavericky and go against McCain in asking Stevens to step down?
she needs to make a clear statement
Posted by: watching | Oct 28, 2008 10:44:33 AM
I don't like monopoly either
Posted by: Vince | Oct 28, 2008 10:45:18 AM
All corrupt politicians should be removed from office. I find it rather disgusting that Democrats never hold their peers accountable.
Posted by: Bill | Oct 28, 2008 10:45:40 AM
bhciapol: If Stevens win again and force to resign, Alaska have to hold a special election to determine Steven's replacement. Palin (if she looses the election) can't take over the slot according to Alaska law nor can Steven choose his replacement.
Posted by: GWP | Oct 28, 2008 10:46:52 AM
Now that Stevens is convicted, it's time for Alaska to figure out just exactly how Sarah and Todd Palin got that $500,000 house built by their "contractor friends." And it just happened to get built during the same time the Wasilla sports complex was being built -- you know, the one that allowed Sarah to leave the city $22,000,000 in debt. Gee, you don't suppose the Palin's had some "contractor friends" building the sports complex, do ya?
Posted by: Kitty Wilberforce | Oct 28, 2008 10:47:38 AM
Go McCain---- CLEAN UP WASHINGTON!
MCain/Palin 08
Posted by: citizenforintegrity | Oct 28, 2008 10:49:06 AM
Hey George, why aren't you reporting this>>> Pete Yost, Associated Press writer has reported McCain has past connections to a radical, private group. Following is part of what he reported>>> John McCain has past connections to what was The U.S. Council for World Freedom, part of an international organization linked to former Nazi collaborators and ultra-right-wing death squads in Central America. The council's founder, retired Army Maj. Gen. John Singlaub, said McCain became associated with the organization in the early 1980s as McCain was launching his political career in Arizona. Singlaub said McCain was a supporter. "McCain was a new guy on the block learning the ropes," Singlaub told The Associated Press in an interview. "I think I met him in the Washington area when he was just a new congressman. We had McCain on the board to make him feel like he wasn't left out. It looks good to have names on a letterhead who are well-known and appreciated. In 1987, the Internal Revenue Service withdrew the tax-exempt status of Singlaub's group because of its activities. McCain was elected to the House in 1982 at a time when he was on the board of Singlaub's council. McCain has said previously he resigned from the council in 1984 and asked in 1986 to have his name removed from the group's letterhead. Singlaub does not recall any McCain resignation nor does Joyce Downey, who oversaw the group's day-to-day activities. "I don't ever remember hearing about his resigning.” “He certainly supported us."
That said, I think McCain should resign his party's nomination NOW... Don't you???
Posted by: JJ Flash | Oct 28, 2008 10:49:49 AM
Why are the following Democrats still in Congress?
William Jefferson - the guy who got caught with $90,000 in bribes stuffed in his freezer.
Charley Rangel - who is Chair of the Ways and Means committee who didn't pay taxes on income property?
Posted by: MaryD | Oct 28, 2008 10:50:24 AM
Sen. McCain - nope, that one didn't stick, either. Try again.
Posted by: Aaron | Oct 28, 2008 10:51:52 AM
If McCain wants this man to step down he needs to ask his VP to step down also. She is just as guilty.
Sarah and Todd Palin got that $500,000 house built by their "contractor friends." And it just happened to get built during the same time the Wasilla sports complex was being built.
I saw this was being investigated but somehow they can not find the builder.
Posted by: becky | Oct 28, 2008 10:52:24 AM
Go McCain---- CLEAN UP WASHINGTON!
MCain/Palin 08
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LOLOLOLOL... my sides hurt please stop.....lolololoolol!
Posted by: becky | Oct 28, 2008 10:53:58 AM
I am shocked beyond belief that a Republican would be convicted of a crime. After all, the entire trailer park knows that the Republican party is the torch bearer for moral values, God, and apple pie. It must have been a Godless, liberal, country hating, gun banning, pro-gay, tree hugging, nuclear safety promoting, evolution teaching, anti prayer-in-schools, science over faith elitist judge and jury that convicted the pure Senator from Alaska. I need to go check the scriptures for some guidance in these dangerous times.
Posted by: dano | Oct 28, 2008 10:55:11 AM
McCain claims he never heard the word "victory" pass Obama's lips. All I can say to confused, erratic McGeezer: wait until Tuesday night.
Posted by: Joe V | Oct 28, 2008 10:55:32 AM
Yeah, Obama experimented with drugs in his youth. I think that's true of most anyone from the 60s. I've smoked pot three times in my life. Big deal. It never did anything at all. No reaction whatsoever. Unlike other politicians though, Obama has been open and honest about it, and frankly I WANT a politician in office who knows something of the real world and who's honest and has integrity (instead of all these other ones who lie and turn out to be corrupt and to have affairs over and over). Anyone who thinks any politician is not a real person with a past like anyone else is just nuts, and if you think that MOST of the people around you have not experimented with drugs at one time or another you're nuts. Stop watching Fox fake news.
Posted by: Robert | Oct 28, 2008 10:57:46 AM
It's really hypocritical for McCain to demand that Ted Stevens resign. For years Ted Stevens was one of McCain's staunchest allies. He even endorsed Sarah Palin's candidacy. Besides, Ted Stevens' crooked dealings are par for the course in the GOP. Look at McCain's own campaign staff. Randy Scheuneman was or is a lobbyist for Georgia (the country, not the state.) Rick Davis was a lobbyist for Freddie Mac. Charlie Black was a lobbyist for Ahmed Chalabi, whose misinformation got us into the Iraq war. In addition Charlie Black is a lobbyist for Blackwater which has robbed the government blind. And Carly Fiorina, the chair of the RNC, helped herself to a $ 45 million golden parachut as Hewlitt-Packard tanked because of Firona's mismanagement.
Sarah Palin's governorship is also filled with nepotism, which I don't have space to examine, but the much-touted Alaska natural gas pipeline, which remains a paper-only project and which will take years to complete, was an examine of a conflict-of-interest decision.
McCain's decision to call for Stevens' resignation epitomizes the hypocrisy of both John McCain and the entire Republican party. If we want to save the country, we need a clean sweep. Fire the entire GOP.
Posted by: Bill | Oct 28, 2008 10:58:26 AM
I live in NM and I'm following the race between Dem Udall and Rep Pierce. I don't think Pierce has a chance of winning the seat vacated by Rep Pete Domenici. I have 2 die-hard Republican brothers and both are voting for Udall. The reason given is that Udall and his staff have always been very helpful to them with both their personal and business affairs here in NM. The Udall family is well-known here and they have support across party lines.
For me, it's easy. I'm voting a straight Democratic ticket this time. And besides, Steve Pierce looks and acts as if he is mentally challenged.
Posted by: Izadorra | Oct 28, 2008 11:00:10 AM
McPalin keeps repeating the lie that Obama has already written his inaugural address. Not true! That being said, it's not too early for McClown and Sarah the Shopper to pen their concessions speeches.
Posted by: Joe V | Oct 28, 2008 11:00:32 AM
Craig & Vitters sitting in the sand...both wish the other was a man....GOP=STD
Posted by: Clint | Oct 28, 2008 11:03:00 AM
BREAKING NEWS!!! PALIN RESIGNS!!!
Posted by: Jack Server | Oct 28, 2008 11:04:12 AM
What are the people of Alaska thinking? This is the senator that was over the sub-committee in 05 when oil company CEO’s were called in about price gouging, he REFUSED to swear them in. Had they been swore in then anything they said un-truthful could come back to haunt them. Now convicted for taking kickbacks from an oil company and lying about it, who would have thought! Also “Bridge to Nowhere” $200 mil of our tax dollars. Americans need to have ZERO tolerance for corruption in government whether Democrat, Republican or Independent. He needs to serve jail time and be fined.
Posted by: rickyt1234 | Oct 28, 2008 11:04:15 AM
Where is Obama on this? Still smoking crack as he did for 10 years in high school, college and grad school? He admits to it in his book. How come he is not subject to a drug test as most Aemricans are when they apply for a job?NO . . . he is the Messiah and above a drug test or any background test. Stupid liberals!
Posted by: Obama the Crack Addict | Oct 28, 2008 10:39:12 AM
** for one Cindy McCain is an admitted drug addict too.. and she stole from the sick
number two what does that have to do w/ Senator Stevens and his attempt to get over? Stick to one story! He was wrong and he should step down and I commend McCain for that.. I wish he would have ran this way the whole time then I may would have voted for him!
Posted by: Wow! | Oct 28, 2008 11:04:49 AM
It does not matter which party Stevens is, if he was a dem I would say resign too and I would vote against him just for that.
I think many of our congressmen have been there too long. 30+ yrs is a LONG time to be in charge.
How many states have limits? I love the fact FL has limits I think more states should do that.
Posted by: mike | Oct 28, 2008 11:06:01 AM
someone explain to me why in the HECK is he asking for a Senator of the state that his so-called running mate is govenor of. that is her JOB. Can she not do anything without the advice or leadership of a man.
Posted by: Preston | Oct 28, 2008 11:06:28 AM
Nobody knows what the final numbers will be. A lot depends on how many new votere there will be for Obama. Republicans like my wife and I will be voting for Obama but otherwise Republican across the board. I think Obama is going to win 60 to 40....but the Senate will be 58 to 42.
Posted by: Jim Macko | Oct 28, 2008 11:08:07 AM
Dano at 10.55am -- best post I've seen in a while. Too funny !!
Posted by: JJ | Oct 28, 2008 11:08:14 AM
Surely you jest, Bill. Obama's campaign is just as bad with his veryquestionable dealings and relationship with Acorn, his ex campaign advisors who ran Freddie and Fannie absconding with many many $$$$, his association and questionable real estate dealings with the convicted Rezko, not to mention the Rev. Wright and Jesse Jackson. Would Obama call on Barny Frank and Thomas Dodd to resign? He doesn't have the courage to do so and they are just as corrupt as Sen Stevens.
Posted by: Mike | Oct 28, 2008 11:09:38 AM
I DO ENJOY SARA PALIN COMMENTS ABOUT
THIS GUYS CORRUPT ACTIONS. WHY DON'T SEE LOOK IN THE MIRROR. EXPENSES FOR TRANSPORTATION AND TRAVEL FOR HER CHILDREN. HER ELABORATE WARDROBE THAT SHE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT. HER MIS USE OF POWERS TO GET PEOPLE FIRED. SHE WILL MAKE AN EXCELLENT VICE PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT. JUST WHAT AMERICA NEEDS AT THIS VITAL TIME. SHE IS AS CORRUPT AS HE IS AND SHE SHOUD CALL IT QUITS ALREAD.
OBAMA'S MY MAN
Posted by: MEOMY | Oct 28, 2008 11:09:58 AM
I've got to admit, it's getting better... a little better all the time (it can't get no worse)..."
Posted by: PRESIDENT OBAMA | Oct 28, 2008 11:10:08 AM
Preston wrote: "Can she not do anything without the advice or leadership of a man".
Nope, that's the reason Todd is always hovering around. It's funny, I don't think he trust her out of his sight.
Posted by: Clint | Oct 28, 2008 11:10:43 AM
If they try to kick Ted out, hold on to your socks! He most likely knows where all the bodies are buried and who could be tried for similar offenses. Watch out for the old Alaskan Bull Moose!
Posted by: kseyetie | Oct 28, 2008 11:10:46 AM
If the Dems get 60, Joe Liberman might change his caucas with the GOP.
Posted by: bull | Oct 28, 2008 11:13:53 AM
Obama the Crack Addict:
It is ignorant people like you who continue to spew hate and lies!
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT IDIOT!
Posted by: Shay | Oct 28, 2008 11:14:38 AM
Gosh, McCain's pretty agile for a 72-year-old man. It only took him a day to check the political winds and adjust his position. Will he call for Palin to step down now that she has been found to have abused her office? What about her serving as a director and incorporator on Stevens' corrupt 527? Will Palin be giving Stevens back all of his campaign money he funneled to her?
Posted by: JW | Oct 28, 2008 11:14:51 AM
Corruption=SOP for the GOP.
Posted by: Jackie | Oct 28, 2008 11:16:33 AM
If the Dems get 60, Joe Liberman might change his caucas with the GOP.
Old Joe needs to go ahead and join the GOP. He's history after the elections.
Posted by: Clint | Oct 28, 2008 11:16:35 AM
I can't wait till Nov. 5th when McCain takes his integrity out of the blind trust it's been in for the past year.
Posted by: Joe V | Oct 28, 2008 11:17:48 AM
For one thing, it was reported that she accepted at least $4,500 in campaign contributions in the same fundraising scheme at the center of a public corruption scandal that led to the indictment of Sen. Ted Stevens.
The contributions, made during Palin's failed 2002 bid to become Alaska's lieutenant governor, were not illegal for her to accept. But they show how Palin, a self-proclaimed champion for clean government, has been part of an Alaska political system that is now under the cloud of an ongoing FBI investigation.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/03/america/NA-POL-US-Elections-Palin.php
Posted by: Reject Corrupt GOP | Oct 28, 2008 11:18:13 AM
McCain is just too old to be running
for president, I get tired just from looking at him, walking around like Fred
Sanford and saying he loves the american
people and he's got the scars to show it! sit down some where and don't get back up!
Posted by: aphilli | Oct 28, 2008 11:20:43 AM
McCain is just too old to be running
for president, I get tired just from looking at him, walking around like Fred
Sanford and saying he loves the american
people and he's got the scars to show it! sit down some where and don't get back up!
Posted by: aphilli | Oct 28, 2008 11:20:56 AM
When it's all said 'n done the Dems will gain a super-majority in the Senate but it will not as of a result of the upcoming election. Instead, at least 2 Republican's will bail on the GOP (even potentially switch party affiliation) to caucus with Dems thereby giving them the magic '60' number then Dems will topple Libermann as Chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee.
Posted by: forty5ford | Oct 28, 2008 11:22:38 AM
Where is Obama on this? Out smoking Crack I guess.
Posted by: Obama is on CRACK | Oct 28, 2008 11:23:18 AM
Mike: Are Frank and Dodd convicted felons?????
Posted by: Kitty Wilberforce | Oct 28, 2008 11:23:23 AM
Of course McCain has to call for his resignation....now. I wonder if McCain became President if he would pardon Stevens later on.
What are the people of Alaska thinking?" asked earlier. Answer: MONEY. They all get a piece of the oil royalites from the State thanks to Palin establishing a windfall tax on oil companies. That smells a lot like "redistribution of wealth". McCain opposes such a federal tax on oil companies.
Posted by: People are Dumb | Oct 28, 2008 11:24:38 AM
Obama is [not] on crack: You seem to be so very knowledgeable about crack. Do you perchance smoke it yourself? Maybe you read where Obama admitted smoking crack so you use that as a crutch to justify your use. You smoke crack and you tell yourself that since Obama smoked crack it must be okay. Obama doesn't smoke crack anymore. Neither should you. Give it up.
Posted by: Kitty Wilberforce | Oct 28, 2008 11:28:23 AM
A corrupt politician from Alaska? SAY IT AIN'T SO! Thank goodness McCain hasn't chosen anyone from Alaska for his team!
Posted by: Doonrider | Oct 28, 2008 11:29:41 AM
Kitty Wilberforce - So what you are saying is that Obama will lead by example?
Posted by: Obama is on CRACK | Oct 28, 2008 11:31:11 AM
forty5ford - So I see you are saying the country is f'd
Posted by: Obama is on CRACK | Oct 28, 2008 11:33:27 AM
aphilli - You must be too old to vote.
Posted by: Obama is on CRACK | Oct 28, 2008 11:34:50 AM
I wish that people would stop harping on the same old crap of Ayers, and Rezco, and ACorn. The whole organization is not bad, just a few people that make dumb choices that is blown out of proportion. Frannie and Freddie lined everyone's pockets up and MCCain is still getting his cut. Obama got the hook up on his house and some of you half-holly than thou folks act like you never got a bargain in your life. As far as Wright. We all have listened to our pastors say something stupid and we did not agree on. We do not go to church for Man. Show me one person that agrees with everything the preacher says or does.
Posted by: Preston | Oct 28, 2008 11:37:04 AM
For those that harp on Rev.Wright, Why do Catholics support their bishops and clergy when there are some that are known sex offenders?? anyone care to answer that on.
Posted by: Preston | Oct 28, 2008 11:38:09 AM
Here we have the pot calling the kettle black. ("It is a sign of the health of our democracy that the people continue to hold their representatives to account for improper or illegal conduct, but this verdict is also a sign of the corruption and insider-dealing that has become so pervasive in our nation's capital," McCain said in a released statement today.) How about we have an investigation into McCain's associations with a few of these people. Donald Diamond. Steve Betts. Oleg Derispaka. Raffaello Follieri. Resolution Copper Mining and Spanish company Rio Tinto Arizona land swap deal. Pinnacle West. Suncor Development. The following is a cut and paste from one of many articles about McCain's big business ties. I hate cut & paste, but these are issues that need to be in the light.
"(By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY
This story is part of USA TODAY's series, "The Price of Power," which tracks the political and business relationships between public officials and donors.
WASHINGTON — Sen. John McCain secured millions in federal funds for a land acquisition program that provided a windfall for an Arizona developer whose executives were major campaign donors, public records show.
McCain, who has made fighting special-interest projects a centerpiece of his presidential campaign, inserted $14.3 million in a 2003 defense bill to buy land around Luke Air Force Base in a provision sought by SunCor Development, the largest of about 50 landowners near the base. SunCor representatives, upset with a state law that restricted development around Luke, met with McCain's staff to lobby for funding, according to John Ogden, SunCor's president at the time.
The Air Force later paid SunCor $3 million for 122 acres near the base. It was the highest single land transaction of the private lots purchased by the government — three times the county's assessed value and twice the military's estimated value. SunCor also donated another 122 acres. Alan Bunnell, a spokesman for SunCor's parent company, Pinnacle West Capital, said the donation was meant to minimize the company's tax bill and enhance the value of adjacent property it owns.
McCain has long-standing ties to SunCor and Pinnacle West:)"
McCain's dealings with others I posted above are numerous, and most beneficial to him, but detrimental to U.S. taxpayers. You are a fool if you even think this man is for the common taxpayer.
Posted by: devilkev | Oct 28, 2008 11:39:07 AM
to kitty wilberforce: Not yet; but they should be. Point is McCain will make every effort to change Washington. Obama is just an empty shell promising the moon (change). There is good change and band change. With Obama, we will be short changed
Posted by: mike | Oct 28, 2008 11:40:24 AM
This column is appropriately named, "George's Bottom Line".
It is just that, the bottom-line perspective from a pundit with only one type of line: whatever the liberal agenda says is the 'line'.
Hang-tight America, there is exactly one week remaining in this race and that equals 7 days - the perfect amount of time for the Dems to bungle this thing mightily.
Posted by: Oregonian_For_Green_Energy | Oct 28, 2008 11:40:39 AM
devilkev.
THANK YOU..........I didn't realize how much money McCain made off of the diamond land dealings and with Keating until I read and researched it myself. Its funny how he hides behind his wifes money to cover his shady dealings.
Posted by: Preston | Oct 28, 2008 11:42:34 AM
And McCain voted against equal pay for equal work..and he insults us with this ditz to be his vice-p....Please..
Posted by: Preston | Oct 28, 2008 11:43:55 AM
If Stevens resigns now, the Democrat will probably win his Senate seat.
If Stevens wins it and then is forced to resign, Governor Palin (unless she is Vice President Palin) will appoint the next Senator.
Herself?????--when her own ethics' violations catch up to her.
At this point, McCain cannot dump her, but he can scuper her chances for that Senate seat.
Meanwhile, Palin has not asked for her mentor and sponsor Stevens to resign.
Posted by: susan | Oct 28, 2008 11:45:29 AM
Response to Obama is on Crack; Lets be fair you have to mention the fact that Cindy McCain was on drugs and stole from the poor to continue her habit. You republicans just spew nonsence at least Obama admitted it I didn't see Cindy admitted it to the public.
Posted by: FHU | Oct 28, 2008 11:46:19 AM
It's funny to me how many people are just spouting off random information and trying to present it as fact! If Senator Stevens gets elected - which isn't as far-fetched as you might think, because he's been an Alaskan Senator since Alaska has had a senator, so there's a lot of loyalty - it's then possible for the Senate to vote him out with a 2/3 vote. However, if that happens, the replacement is not appointed by the Governor. Since the former Governor of Alaska appointed his daughter as his replacement for his senate seat, Alaskans have passed a law requiring a special election.
In addition, the conviction of Ted Stevens on felony counts, is not the same as a bi-partisan committee finding Sarah Palin to have violated ethics codes. I don't like her, but I don't think it's quite fair to put her in the same boat as a convicted felon!
Posted by: BMort | Oct 28, 2008 11:47:00 AM
Mike- Deregulation is what got us into this mess we are in. Deregulation was on his platform during the GOP convention. You must not be aware of the dealings he made in Lasvegas. If you carefully research, especially on thomas.loc.gov he goes above and beyond for these big corporations, as did Bush. He has NOT done anything for middle class.
Posted by: Preston | Oct 28, 2008 11:47:01 AM
Joe: Obama was addicted for ten years. NOt experimental use of marijuana. Crack cocaine! He is a crackhead. Big difference in my opinion.
Posted by: Clarity | Oct 28, 2008 11:47:32 AM
Does anyone else find it hilarious that the same people come on here, saying they will never watch ABC news again. Yet, here they are...everyday. Gives me a chuckle each morning!
Posted by: Jay | Oct 28, 2008 11:53:04 AM
Obama says take the day off for the election. Why work hard when he wants to spread the wealth.
Posted by: tim | Oct 28, 2008 11:55:28 AM
Take work off for the election. I think Obama should be a little more responsible in what he says.
Posted by: mary | Oct 28, 2008 11:56:38 AM
