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Ambassador: Pakistani Government Not Involved in Mumbai Attacks

November 30, 2008 9:27 AM

In an interview with "This Week" Pakistani Ambassador to the U.S. Husain Haqqani said while the Mumbai attackers may have come from Pakistan, they had no ties to the Pakistani government.

"That they are harbored by Pakistan is plain wrong," Haqqani told me. 

"The important thing is that the government of Pakistan, the state of Pakistan, the military of Pakistan, and even the intelligence services are not directly involved," he said. 

"If there are individuals -- look in this country the United States people have been arrested for plotting and planning terrorism. Does that mean the U.S. government is at fault?"

Haqqani said his government has gone the extra mile to reassure the Indian government that "we feel their pain."

But he said the heated rhetoric coming from India precludes a talked about trip to India by the head of Pakistan's intelligence services.

"The rhetoric right now is such that this is not the right time for a high-level meeting of that sort," Haqqani said. "Pakistan will definitely cooperate with the Indians in every  detail if there is evidence that there is any link to anybody."

As Indians question their own government on whether the Mumbai attack could have been prevented, Haqqani said, "Intelligence failure? I think people have to look closer to home for that."

However, Haqqani implored the Indians not to view the attack through the prism of the bitter relationship between India and Pakistan.

"The point we must remember is that we should not see this heinous act in the context of India-Pakistan relations. We should see it in the context of international terrorism. There are terrorists that have trained in all countries of the world secretly. They are non-state actors. I don't think that this is the time for India, or anybody in India to accuse Pakistan. It's time to work with Pakistan," he said. 

"As two democracies we need to strengthen each other rather than fall into the trap of the terrorists who want us to fight with each other so that they can get greater strength," he said.

If India posts military troops along it's border with Pakistan, Haqqani said Pakistan will be forced to do the same, diverting resources from fighting the Taliban which has gained strength in parts of Pakistan. 

"Pakistan and Afghanistan became the focus of jihad central many many years when they were all fighting the Soviets . So these people have roots in some remote parts of our country. They have spread those roots. Some of the efforts in the war on terror have not been successful. Our dictator, General Musharraf did not do the right thing to eliminating the terrorists but the new government is making it's effort and our intelligence services are far better prepared," he said.

"Pakistan is a victim of terrorism.  India is a victim of terrorism. The victims need to get together. Forget about our bitter history," he said.

Asked whether a member of President-elect Barack Obama's team would be welcome to broker a compromise on the disputed area of Kashmir, Haqqani said Sen. Hillary Clinton, rumored to be Obama's pick for Secretary of State, or anyone else would be welcome.

"I think it's about time that people put those arguments behind us and if anyone can help us do that that would definitely be a good thing," he said. 

--George Stephanopoulos

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"we need to strengthen each other rather than fall into the trap of the terrorists who want us to fight with each other so that they can get greater strength"

Well said. Not questioning their narrative is also a trap.

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2008/08/27/memory-holes-in-the-floor/

Posted by: visor | Nov 30, 2008 10:07:50 AM

while the Mumbai attackers may have come from Pakistan, they had no ties to the Pakistani government.

"That they are harbored by Pakistan is plain wrong," Haqqani told me.

"The important thing is that the government of Pakistan, the state of Pakistan, the military of Pakistan, and even the intelligence services are not directly involved," he said.

They may have come from Pakistan but Pakistan "NOT DIRECTLY" involved...Yes Pakistan if outsources it to jehadi groups then it cannot be directly involved...

WHY IS ABC GOVONG IN YO PAKISTAN PROPAGANDA WITHOUT EQUAL TIMe TO THE VICTIM (INDIA's) VIEW..

WHEN 911 HAPPENED HOW MUCH TIME WAS SPEN ON INTELLIGENCE FAILURE AND HOW MUCH ON WHO/WHEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ATTCK...WHY IS INDIAN'S BLOOD SPILLED IS LESSER THAN WHOTE AMERICANS BLOOD...

RACIST BUNCH OF PIGS..

Posted by: abc | Nov 30, 2008 10:23:16 AM

btw WHEN 911 HAPPENED THERE WAS INTELLIGENCE FAILRE TOO ON USA SIDE...THAT DIDNT MAKE USA RESPONSIBLE FOR 911...

WHY WAS THIS NOT CHALLENGED ON PAK AMBADASSADOR WAS SPINNING...

OH WELL GEORGE IS RACIST... IF THIS ATTACK(GOD FORBID) HAD HAPPENED IN US HE WOULD NOT HAVE CALLED PAK AMBADASSADOR FOR INTERVIEW...I DIDNT SEE GEORGE INTERVIEWING PAK/SAUDI AMBADASSADOR AFTER 911 ATTACK TO GIVE THEIR VIEWS...WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARDS

Posted by: abc | Nov 30, 2008 10:28:27 AM

The Pakistani Ambassador can protest all he likes but his words are meaningless unless Pakistan makes it ABSOLUTELY clear that individuals who engage in such actions will be hunted down like the dogs that they are and charged and prosecuted by the government of Pakistan for inhuman and Un-Islamic behavior.

Posted by: rakko | Nov 30, 2008 11:05:20 AM

The fact of the matter is that Pakistan has been steadily degenerating into a lawless state where actual control on the ground is retained by fundamental islamic forces and control of the politician puppets is held by the US government with its myopic and selfish self interests. Both Mushsharaaf then and Zardari (Mr 10 percent) are pawns in the hands of 2 parties - fundamental jihadists on one hand and ammo and cash- toting CIA on the other hand. All these jihadis starting with Bin Laden were trained in the 1980s by the CIA

Posted by: gg | Nov 30, 2008 11:28:58 AM

I have this bridge for sale too, any takers? That is as true a statement as pakistan was not involved. If these people's mouths are moving they are lying. Of course you can't find rats in the walls of a house without an exterminator, I guess caves are filled with extremist vermin and going to be hard to remove.. especially when this country is in denial and funded by the US and terrorists. A rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Jo Minneapolis | Nov 30, 2008 11:49:21 AM

PEOPLE WAKE UP! Why is that you have both the Afghan and Indian governments pointing towards Pakistan when asked where the attackers originate from? Karzai has told the world many times over that Pakistan along with it's ISI is responsible for most if not all of the violence in Afghanistan. Pakistan is not an ally of USA. My heart goes out to victims in Mumbai and to the nation of India.

WE CANNOT ALLOW PAKISTAN TO TERRORIZE IT'S NEIGHBORS!

Posted by: Zahir Rahimi | Nov 30, 2008 12:01:39 PM

The whole interview is a hog-wash and a prop to Pakistani government. George is slowly shifting the arguement in favor of Pak:
(1) by not probing more into which elements in ISI are supporting the jihadis (there is already preliminary evidence on this shown to the media)
(2) suggesting that any move by India will affect the American operations in Afghanistan - a indriect reference to India saying that American lives are more precious than Indian lives?
(3) letting the ambassador off the hook by not pushing him on who is funding these terrorists, why are they operating from Pakistan, how long have they been there etc. - purely one-sided
(4) why do we need diplomacy at this stage - all India needs now is a show of force. Keep in mind that's what US did after 9/11. Why should tehere be different rules of engagement for India?

So, George don't undermine the intelligence of India and the dignity and repsect the victims of terror deserve. I'm sure you are capable of much better reporting than this. You just have to have an open mind and try harder!!!

Yogi

Posted by: Yogi Rao | Nov 30, 2008 12:06:04 PM

Obama was responsible for this attack. Since Obama sneezed and they said stocks rallied because of him. WHy not tie this also to Obamas

Posted by: Kennel | Nov 30, 2008 12:06:29 PM

O no, baby boy.
No more dirty war !

Posted by: Anti-war | Nov 30, 2008 12:09:26 PM

The "terrorist" attacks are obsiousely organized by CIA and local Indian Intelligence. What their goal is?
USA want to involve India into war with Afganistan.
What India gets? India will smash Pakistan and gets territories
What USA gets? Dismantled Pakistani nuclear weapon.
What Pakistan gets? Blood and Death.
USA is an Empire of Evil. Its slogan: divide and conquire!

Posted by: abx | Nov 30, 2008 12:12:39 PM

obama will be the reason for only the good that happens for the first cuple of years. we all need to get used to that. i would say, after two years of failures, only then will the media start to call him out. until then, he will play absolutely no part in the worlds problems.

Posted by: tim | Nov 30, 2008 12:18:41 PM

This selfish bastard does not have any remorse that citizens of his country were involved in cold blooded murder of
innocent citizen..and the moron so called journalist cannot ask a simple question..If his 13 year old daughter was murdered like this what would he do.. Shame on ABC not interview the victims of this terror and allowing Pakistan Propoganda..

Posted by: MANOJ JAIN | Nov 30, 2008 12:20:37 PM

On Saturday morning, I phoned an Indian business colleague in Mumbai. Beyond, his resolute horror over the targeted attacks upon his city and country, he later expressed concerns for India's finance relationships with Pakistan and the taut financial link between them. He feared another war would severely damage both nations, particularly given the advanced nuclear capability on both sides. He was withholding final judgements on the root of the attacks prior to a full investigation, however, he did not discount the strong indications of an al-quida "franchise" of fundamentalist jihadists based outside of India. In our conversation, we did not know about Lashkar and new reported developments about a backer link to political entities in Pakistan.
The matter of Kashmir and its territorial boundaries between India and Pakistan will not end quietly. The peace process must push itself forward and ultimately prevail to protect us all from the ramapant insanity of insurgent fringe elements!

Posted by: world/econ = war/econ | Nov 30, 2008 12:28:59 PM

Pakistan created Taliban, Jaish-whatever and exported nuclear know how. They only broke with Taliban when threatened by United States.

Who really know if Musharraf was telling the truth or this government is telling the truth.

For now terror continues to find foster homes in Pakistan.

Posted by: Tapan Ansari | Nov 30, 2008 12:29:39 PM

It is shameful how the Indian government and the Indian public are so eager to point the blame on Pakistan. A well organized attack of this nature cannot be orchestrated with interior domestic help. Every time a fire cracker goes off, the Indians point at Pakistan. For all the recent terrorist attacks in Pakistan, the Pakistani government has not pointed fingers at India. So the narrow minded Indians and their government should act more maturely and try to resolve the problems that cause these incidents. Look at your domestic policies and you will realize why these incidents occur. People do not care how you live your life, but how you treat and tyrannize others which cause these uprisings.

Posted by: Shuja | Nov 30, 2008 12:37:04 PM

MANOJ JAIN - You make some good points. It is my belief that the US needs to stay out of this. I believe we bombed another wedding party in Afganistan just a couple of weeks ago in which I imagine many 13 year olds were killed. An act of terrorism which should give us zero credibility.

Posted by: Huh | Nov 30, 2008 12:39:18 PM

I think as an INDIAN , I shouldn't be concerned about this talk by US Media . I guess they lost their reporting ethics long after I have seen their partisanship towards a particular candidate in US elections ! ... We Indians should protect our countrymen and defend them in other countries. Countries who take revenge in NO TIME after pearl harbor / 911 should stop preaching resilience to long resilient and largest democracy in the world . Also as a christian - Americans should stop thinking they are children of God and start honoring their principles !

Posted by: Joseph | Nov 30, 2008 12:51:21 PM

Shuja: Your stated comments regarding India - and labeling the horrific Mumbai massacre an "uprising" are unfounded by evidence and only serve to present your unbridled bias and ignorance. It is a well-known fact, post 9/11, Pakistan military forces have been infiltrated with disaffected militia who despise India! And, given this well-known knowledge, the problem with Pakistan does come from a faction or element within the INSIDE of Pakistan's government!

Posted by: world/econ = war/econ | Nov 30, 2008 12:53:51 PM

Joseph - Well stated sir. It is refreshing to hear someone with some semblance of reality. India needs to chart her own course in this and determine what is the best actions to take.

As a side note. The money the US has wasted in Iraq and Afganistan could have been used to build a new metropolis with lots of skyscrapers. I mean how many buildings does a trillion+ dollars build.

Think outside the box folks and vote Ron Paul in 2012!

Posted by: Huh | Nov 30, 2008 12:56:03 PM

Shame on you. What is the logic in giving terrorists more prime time and propoganda.

Pakisthan is the mother ship of all terrorists. What will it take for the American public and politicians to realize this.

Posted by: James Whitticom | Nov 30, 2008 12:58:59 PM

What use of force by India? That would surely be the most counterproductive use of force ever. And I do not say that lightly. It would further weaken the Pakistan government and make it even less able to deal with the terrorists it needs to confront. No, there is no easy solution to this.

Posted by: Hein | Nov 30, 2008 1:02:51 PM

James Whitticom - Stop sending Pakistan aid.

As a side note: DO you believe the bombing of wedding parties by the US in which scores of people die an act of terrorism? Do you believe these events should be resisted and avenged? Do you believe the Iraqi sanctions throughout the 90s in which 500,000+ Iraqis died, and act of terrorism/genocide by the US? I could go on of course because their is plenty of material.

Posted by: Huh | Nov 30, 2008 1:03:14 PM

I have to agree with the Pakistan Ambassador that Pakistan as in the government of Pakistan was not masterminding this attack. Also, Pakistan is not denying that the terrorists operating in Pakistan affect themselves and the neighbors (India and Pakistan). All kinds of terrorists are operating in Pakistan and the government is unable to control them. If they want to put an end to terrorism then they must cooperate with the world community and ensure that terrorists operating within their borders are creating problems for the world and maybe admit that while they are trying their best they are failing miserably and that the NATO forces at one side and the Indian forces on the other can assist Pakistan to crush the terrorist if it does seriously want to end terrorism. Pakistan cannot play the game it has been playing for all these years of appearing to hunt with the USA and run with the terrorist. Any loans by the IMF should be linked to its performance in flushing out the terrorists within its borders. The world should support the emerging Democracy of Pakistan with checks and balances in place and even if the government has a 10% price on any loans, it should earn it.

Posted by: gjkotw01 | Nov 30, 2008 1:04:41 PM

why is abc interviewing only the pak ministers???
come to india see for yourself once. talk to indians we also want to tell our point of views..
pak is involved. i could even bet osama is hiding there.They are liars. F******liars.
WHAT GIVES THE USA RIGHT TO GO TO ANY DAMN COUNTRY AND BOMBARD IT AND NOT INDIANS WHO HAVE BEEN SUFFERING TERRORISM SINCE SO LONG. WHEN WE WANT WAR THE USA WANTS PEACE! FAIR HA!
I HOPE OBAMA BRINGS 'THE CHANGE' HE TALKS ABOUT ALL THE TIME. le t go off your bias. and countries deal with thier problems themselves

Posted by: furious | Nov 30, 2008 1:07:47 PM

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