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Rice: Iraq War 'Seemed the Course'
December 07, 2008 9:03 AM
In our interview on "This Week" Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice refused to say whether she agreed with Karl Rove's statement this week that "absent weapons of mass destruction, no, I don’t think there would have been an invasion [of Iraq]."
"Well I think there were a lot of reasons to get rid of Saddam Hussein. Yes weapons of mass destruction but this man was a real danger," Rice said.
"This seemed the course for somebody who combined weapons of mass destruction, which we believe he had, and his murderous history," she said.
When I pressed on whether she thinks the country would have gone to war anyway, without the intelligence failures, Rice said, "George, one you don't have that luxury. You don't. It’s fine to sit and try to play mind games and to try to recreate what we might have done here or there, but that's not the world we were living in in 2003. We were living in a post-9/11 world in which it was very clear that you shouldn't let threats multiple and collect without acting against them."
Rice reflected on her eight years in the Bush administration, and argued the greatest threat to the nation remains terrorism.
"I still am concerned that everyday, the terrorists plot against us," Rice told me, "We have to be right 100 percent of the time, they have to be right once. I think it's hard to understand that if you're in a position of authority on Sept. 11 then every day since has been Sept. 12th. And that undoubtedly defending the homeland continues to be the greatest threat."
Asked how much it matters that Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden hasn't been captured, Rice said, "Everyone wants to see the day that Osama bin Laden is brought to justice. But this is not a one-man organization. And I think we are more capable at dealing with al Qaeda, tracking and tracing them, cutting down their financial networks, and most importantly we've captured or killed an awful lot of their leadership. That very coherent institution, organization, that perpetrated 9/11 is really not intact any longer, although they remain dangerous."
President Bush said this week that his greatest regret was the intelligence failure in Iraq.
Today, Rice said, "It's high on my list because we and the intelligence agencies around the world thought we were dealing with something that turns out to have been a different kind of threat."
But Rice said she is appalled at the inability of the international community to stop tyrants, mentioning Burma and Zimbabwe.
The Secretary of State said the idea that there was "group-think" in the White House leading up to the war in Iraq is "not true."
"The intelligence frankly didn't permit much in the way of alternatives for the weapons of mass destruction," Rice said.
--George Stephanopoulos
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Secretary Rice says "We have to be right 100 percent of the time, they have to be right once." This is group think. We can now see what happens when you are "wrong 100 per cent of the time".
Posted by: Norris Ward | Dec 7, 2008 9:27:12 AM
How on the earth could they award Tenet Congressional Medal of Freedom ?
Posted by: bashfulx | Dec 7, 2008 9:39:30 AM
Rice said, "because we and the intelligence agencies around the world thought we were dealing with something that turns out to have been a different kind of threat." She seems to have confused her Gulf Wars...We did not have the support of the intelligence communities around the world for the invasion of Iraq. The UN monitors and most of our allies believed we were wrong. Has she already forgotten "Freedom Fries"?
Posted by: Sarah | Dec 7, 2008 9:53:02 AM
hey norris ward, how many attacks have occurred inside the United States since 9/11, That's right none. Your comment is just an ignorant, anti-bush political statement with no real fact behind it.
Posted by: Ben | Dec 7, 2008 10:01:34 AM
Condi, Condi...you simply won't admit that the Bush Administration was hell bent on going to war with Saddam no matter what. You sold the war to the public with the WMD argument. So why don't you just say "Yes, if we had known there were no WMD's, there would have been no rationale for a pre-emptive invasion." That's it. Period. End of discussion. The more you try to defend it any other way leads people to believe that you did what so many accuse you of...politicizing the intelligence, intending to remove Saddam no matter what, and going to do what you wanted to
Posted by: FranklyMyDear | Dec 7, 2008 10:02:37 AM
Seriously? an intelligence failure? How quickly we forget. I am not privy to any secret information, but I followed the run up to the Iraqi war and anyone with any sense could see the WMD claim was dubious or at best a maybe. Even the British, French, German, Italian governments knew that "curve ball" was unreliable. This administration even sent one of their own (Ambassador Wilson was a republican and his wife was a CIA employee) to investigate the yellow cake story and found it to be fake. They threw both (his wife and himself) under the bus when they reported the facts which they ignored. What about Chaney's intelligence group at the Pentagon cherry picking all the intelligence reports to support their attack on Iraq. What about Rumsfeld and his ludicrous concepts of large scale war where all you need is just enough special forces and the locals will help you out. which was one of the reasons that we did not catch Bin Ladin and ended the Taliban when we had the chance as they fled into Pakistan. Or not really planning the occupation of Iraqi after the invasion which was also undermanned by any normal military standard which left our troops open to more loses then needed I am not a military genius like Rummy, but I know enough (severed in the Marine Corp) and war gamed enough to know that "boots on ground" and improving the host countries infrastructure is really the only way to finish any gorilla style warfare. I have lost any sympathy for most of the administration that got us in this whole. The media needs to take it's fair share because they got bullied to go along and congress, which if it was up to me every member that voted to invade Iraq would be in jail serving life along with most of this administrations "neocons".
Posted by: Andrew | Dec 7, 2008 10:03:35 AM
Rice knows that Bush twisted intelligence. She knows it's an outright lie that Bush now claims he had bad intellgence.
We know that Cheney personally went to CIA headquarters to make them re-write their reports when they did not say what the White House wanted them to say.
We know from CIA Agent Joseph Wilson that he was the agent who found the Iraq-Nigeria Uranium deal paper to be a pure fabrication and that he reported it to the White House - which then proceeded to use the paper as evidence at the UN. And Wilson's reward was to have the White House leak the name of his active CIA-agent wife, potentially putting her life in danger.
We also know that Bush told us there were "al-Qaeda elements" in Saddam's Iraq. We now know he intentionally misled us because he knew those elements were being attacked by Saddam and had located their headquarters in the Kurdish No-Fly Zone, where American planes protected them from Saddam!
Bush was going to rationalize the need to take out Saddam one way or the other. It's a shame he didn't take out al-Qaeda first. They were our real enemy then, and they still are now.
Posted by: The_Mick | Dec 7, 2008 10:18:17 AM
Why doesn't George ask follow up questions? Why doesn't George do his homework before the interview? It wouldn't be difficult to anticipate Rice's revisionist history answers and to have the facts on hand to refute her.
The intelligence the Bush administration used to justify invading & occupying Iraq was clearly cherry picked. The history is there, it's even on tape. It wouldn't be that hard to confront Rice with her blatant lies, so it can't be that George is just lazy.
The old line that "everybody believed" what the administration was touting is so easily shot down. Why didn't George do it?
Well, George is no Tim Russert, that's for sure.
Posted by: Wanda | Dec 7, 2008 10:27:38 AM
What Condi basically admits is that even if the intel was right, they would have come up with different excuses to go to war. They decided to go to war way before 9/11 according to many insiders. The WMD was a convenient excuse.
Posted by: exrepublican | Dec 7, 2008 10:29:35 AM
Rice is a very close friend of George W. Bush, and one of the main reasons he picked her for this position, so he would have someone he could trust to go along with him on everything, whether it was right or wrong. She has certainly done this for him, in condoning what he did in going into Iraq after Saddam, when he should've gone after Bin Laden in Aftganistan after 9/11, and now America is so deeply involved financially in Iraq, it has driven our country into a depression, and the National budget is at a record high, and for what? So Bush's egotistical attitude could be satisfied in getting the guy that threatened his Daddy, and we have all suffered immensely for his big mistake. My prayers go out for Barack Obama to help get America back where it rightfully belongs with the wisdom of King Solomon, and this is our only hope.
Posted by: jms55 | Dec 7, 2008 10:33:16 AM
This woman has blood stained hands. Her imprint in our national history is finished and it is disgusting. What she, and bush, and all the other warmongers are practicing is what they have done all along to justify the atrocity they are responsible for, HISTORICAL REVISIONISM!
Posted by: Blood Stained Hands | Dec 7, 2008 10:34:09 AM
Andrew, the liberal media will jump on anything, right or wrong, just to fill your TV screen!
Posted by: SureEnough08 | Dec 7, 2008 10:40:22 AM
Well, by golly, Hillary will straighten things out for H Obama! But she did believe the faulty intelligence. Just remember that she and Bill have faulty memories and were known for being the world's best liar in the 1990's.
Posted by: SureEnough08 | Dec 7, 2008 10:47:02 AM
Rice has been the "guiding light" of the worst foreign policy strategy ever implemented by the U.S. -- unilateralism, preemptive war etc. If she had a conscience she would be asking the American people to forgive her. I frankly don't care at all how well she plays the piano, she has been a disaster.
Posted by: hopesprings52 | Dec 7, 2008 10:47:26 AM
I am so tired of the media beating this same dead horse. What if Bush would have just sat on his hands. What do you think the world would look like today?Saddam had over 9 months to hid everything and move it. Thanks to the new, he knew we were coming. If he had nothing to hide then why didn't he let the UN in immediately. They found evidence of yellow cake in Syria, where do you think that came from? The bad guys have been tied up in Iraq trying to get us. I sure would rather they be fighting over there than here on our own land. Or maybe you guys would rather see American women and children dead.
Posted by: Pat | Dec 7, 2008 10:57:23 AM
I also would like to know what people think you'd call the gasing of the Kurds, child's play. What about Saddam attack on Kuwait, the burning oil fields. His own top man showed them the blueprints for the weapons. They found jet fighter planes buried in the sand. We didn't dig up every inch of sand in Iraq looking for what else was buried. He was a brutal man every bit as bad as Hitler. I say good ridance. Also Clinton could have got Osama but turned it down. He was weak and that's why they thought they could take us down.
Posted by: Pat | Dec 7, 2008 11:06:36 AM
Even Biden admitted that they will test Obama. I just hope not too many Americans die when they come to get us. I'm afraid Obama will not know what to say or do because it won't be on a teleprompter all written out for him. We will hear a bunch of hums and hahs.
Posted by: Pat | Dec 7, 2008 11:11:03 AM
Rice the apostle of Buffoon Bush stays loyal to the end.
Posted by: JD in Tampa | Dec 7, 2008 11:18:58 AM
romario~
Posted by: Nikita | Dec 7, 2008 11:20:53 AM
Condi used to be a reasonable person. But now KR is more reasonable? It just shows how the mental faculties degenerate the closer a person is to W. (and Cheney too of course, but that is redundant).
Posted by: JimF | Dec 7, 2008 11:33:48 AM
OMG, this isn't group think. It's worst. Lack of personal honesty! Denial of the obvious! This administration will go down in history as the most incompetent in history.
Posted by: JimKoren | Dec 7, 2008 11:36:21 AM
Whatever we argue about today let us also remember those who were lost on the “Date which shall live in infamy”. We are Democrats and Republicans, but we were all Americans on that day. My flags are flying, hope yours are too.
Posted by: Oonogil | Dec 7, 2008 11:39:13 AM
This interview by Stephanopoulos of Rice is one of the weakest I've seen. More like Hannity interviewing Palin. Reporting like this enabled Bush to draw us into the Iraq war. When will you learn!!!!
Posted by: Jim | Dec 7, 2008 11:45:56 AM
She is a liar. The "intelligence" was known to be BS by many in the US government, like the aluminum tubes they claimed were for a centrifuge.
The Department of Energy said they were not suitable for use in a centrifuge, long before we invaded. But the Bush people ignored that, and used the tubes as evidence for the invasion. They knew that most of their "intelligence" was BS.
Sure, most of us thought they Iraq may have some old mustard gas or something. But as General Zinni said, that stuff was old and degraded, and Iraq was not a threat.
Posted by: Patrick | Dec 7, 2008 11:51:37 AM
It was a lie then. It's a lie now. A piece of garbage wrapped in an American flag and rammed down the throat of the people. Good riddance to all of these criminals.
Posted by: hey Scoob | Dec 7, 2008 11:54:12 AM
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