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Obama Leaves Door Open (a Bit) On Prosecuting Bush Officials
January 11, 2009 9:16 AM
During my exclusive interview with President-elect Barack Obama airing Sunday morning on "This Week" I asked the president-elect to respond to a one of the most popular questions on his own website, www.Change.gov.
"Will you appoint a Special Prosecutor -- ideally Patrick Fitzgerald -- to independently investigate the gravest crimes of the Bush administration, including torture and warrantless wiretapping?" asked Bob Fertik of New York who runs the Democrats.com website.
Fertik submitted the question to Obama's "Open for Questions" portion of the site, and later to us when he didn't receive a response.
During his presidential campaign, Obama left the door open to a special prosecutor, so I asked him to respond to Fertik's question.
Here was Obama's answer:
PRESIDENT-ELECT BARACK OBAMA: "We're still evaluating how we're going to approach the whole issue of interrogations, detentions, and so forth. And obviously we're going to look at past practices. And I don't believe that anybody is above the law. On the other hand, I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards. And part of my job is to make sure that for example at the CIA, you've got extraordinarily talented people who are working very hard to keep Americans safe. I don't want them to suddenly feel like they've got to spend all their time looking over their shoulders and lawyering up.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: "So no 9/11 Commission with independent seeking of power?"
OBAMA: "Well we have not made any final decisions but my instinct is for us to focus on how do we make sure that moving forward, we are doing the right thing. That doesn't mean that if somebody has blatantly broken the law, that they are above the law. But my orientation's going to be to move forward," Obama said.
STEPHANOPOULOS: "So let me just press that one more time. You're not ruling out prosecution, but will you tell your Justice Department to investigate these cases and follow the evidence where it leads?"
OBAMA: What I -- I think my general view when it comes to my attorney general is that he's the people's lawyer. Eric Holder's been nominated. His job is to uphold the Constitution and look after the interests of the American people. Not be swayed by my day-to-day politics. So ultimately, he's going to be making some calls. But my general belief is that when it comes to national security, what we have to focus on is getting things right in the future as opposed to looking at what we got wrong in the past."
--George Stephanopoulos
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My apologies to Fred for jumping in...
Posted by: Stan | Jan 11, 2009 4:43:24 PM
I'm still a bit fuzzy on what charges anyone could press against W. Is acting on deficient intel a punishable offense? Can we indict virtually all of Congress, too?
Maybe W deliberately lied like Clinton did, but I haven't seen it. A link would be appreciated.
Posted by: Donald | Jan 11, 2009 4:52:31 PM
Stan, the article is about prosecution for illegal wire tapping and torture. Some think that Bush was listening in on Grandma when she was discussing her fruit cake recipe. Of course these same people are ecstatic about the fact that dozens of would be terrorist acts were thwarted by "illegal" wire tapping.
It's my opinion that those who object to our operations directed at catching terrorists are probably cooking meth in their garage.
Posted by: Tex | Jan 11, 2009 5:01:34 PM
Stan---"have you been tortured?". yeah i have but not waterboarding. just the kind that leaves scars. most people who advocate torture have never been tortured. don't address me with a question and then speak for me. that's not cool, man.
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jan 11, 2009 5:17:30 PM
Stan---just so you know torture is something that happens outside a controlled situation. you don't get sedation or anesthesia, pumpkin. but what would you know. obviously you've been waterboarded to imply it's no big deal. if you have been waterboarded i apologize for my comment.
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jan 11, 2009 5:23:22 PM
Sisterdearest09,Your comment!
(No, we must prosecute Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Rice, Yoo, Rove, Miers, and everyone else knowingly involved in the crimes they authorized.)
I do believe that they should also prosecute Bill clinton and his admin. for also bombing Iraq!!!! while they are at it, get Pelosie,Reid,Frank, Freddie Fannie exec. and the rest of them, it is not all "This admin", they are all doing wrong. Wake up!!!
Posted by: ML | Jan 11, 2009 5:36:22 PM
onlineslobant...it goes both ways..
Yes, absolutely. Go after Clinton and Gore for 1. Lying to the American people for the purposes of engaging in sex and collecting illegal funds from China 2. lying under oath 3. granting pardons to criminals in exchange for favors and money. Anything less than investigation and prosecution will be an embarrassment to this country, and a major act of perfidy by the Obama Administration.
Posted by: Badboy | Jan 11, 2009 5:41:24 PM
I think that the Left-wing America and Pres. Bush haters had better hope that no one tries to indite President Bush. I can garantee it will generate a backlash against the Left.
Posted by: we_are_not_amused | Jan 11, 2009 5:42:27 PM
For those questioning torture- let's say there is a nuke set to go off in 24 hours in a major city in the US. There is 1 terrorist that knows the location you have captured him. What do you do? Call any family you have to get out of town? Get out of town yourself? Or torture? Which one is the appropriate response? Just a little idea to think on.
Posted by: jschmidt | Jan 11, 2009 6:05:55 PM
I believe Obama's response is quite clear. No one is above the law. It is about time.
Posted by: sensealot | Jan 11, 2009 6:10:39 PM
sensealot-that doesn't seem to apply to Frank, Dodd and Rangel.
Posted by: jschmidt | Jan 11, 2009 6:23:59 PM
I'm sure you finished, Paul. Please retire while you're...ummmm, well behind.
Posted by: Stan | Jan 11, 2009 7:28:48 PM
Paul doesn't quite grasp reality. Leave him alone, Stan.
Posted by: Exmo | Jan 11, 2009 7:32:14 PM
"---"have you been tortured?". yeah i have"
Let's hear it, sugar cakes.
Posted by: Stan | Jan 11, 2009 7:36:23 PM
Stan---through torture i experienced incomprehensible pain and i have plenty to show for those experiences. you and Exmo get off on humiliating and denigrating people you disagree with. your making fun of people as if you were some kind of ill-behaved second-grader makes it all the more apparent that you say what you say and have no desire to engage in meaningful debate. like you are a magna-cum-laude from the Rush Limbaugh Institutre for Advanced Conservative Studies. you very well could have reasd my original post and made an honest effort at disagreement. but you and Exmo are always right and everyone else is wrong. that's not engaging.
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jan 11, 2009 8:05:33 PM
Exmo---Stan is doing fine. he doesn't need your help. if you want to say something to me say it. there is nothing more REAL than torture, nothing on earth. it's easy to make fun of people and have nothing constructive to say. do you teach your kids to make fun of people with physical defects. you're not making a very good impression on this blog. i'm just trying to have an honest conversation.
you, Stan and FederalFred all seem to speak for each other. what's up with that? just address me individually. or do you guys fight three to one?
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jan 11, 2009 8:10:28 PM
Stan---"I'm sure you finished, Paul. Please retire while you're...ummmm, well behind." way too young to retire. not all victims of torture are tortured in the military. and not all people who serve their country and pay a price for that are soldiers.
"Let's hear it, sugar cakes."---honestly what do you mean. i don't agree with you so i'm gay. instead of caling me cutsie second-grade-school-girl names why not just call me a f*g like you want to.
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jan 11, 2009 8:16:21 PM
Why are we not including Paul Bremer as well?
Posted by: turtle | Jan 11, 2009 8:16:52 PM
The liberal left would rather have thousands of Americans die a horrific death rather than pour a little water in some terrorists face. I look at the nominees to Obama's cabinet & all I can say is God help us. I can still say God for now can't I?
Posted by: Rainier L. Wolfcastle | Jan 11, 2009 9:12:47 PM
Rainier L. Wolfcastle---i would never hope for the death of thousands of americans. people who disagree aren't traitors. torture yields abyssmal results. i think the detainees ahould be charged and prosecuted. i find it hard to believe that after 7 years the vast majority have had no charges brought against them. you would figure after 7 years we would have tons of information yielded. instead we just have a bad human rights record and no serious actionable intelligence.
if the US is attacked again it won't be because we didn't torture people.
Posted by: Paul Wall | Jan 11, 2009 9:31:23 PM
Paul Wall - A major attack of LA Airport was thwarted due to water boarding. You are clueless and uninformed.
Posted by: Rainier L. Wolfcastle | Jan 11, 2009 9:44:07 PM
Actually, we gained quite a bit of actional intel from the coerced interrogation of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
In March 2007, after four years in captivity, including six months of detention at Guantanamo Bay, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed — as it was claimed by a Combatant Status Review Tribunal Hearing in Guantanamo Bay — confessed to masterminding the September 11th attacks, the Richard Reid shoe bombing attempt to blow up an airliner over the Atlantic Ocean, the Bali nightclub bombing in Indonesia, the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and various foiled attacks.
Any you say water boarding doesn't work.. Silly liberal.
Posted by: Hondo | Jan 11, 2009 10:08:49 PM
For those that think water boarding doesn't work:
According to a CNN interview with intelligence expert Rohan Gunaratna, "Daniel Pearl was going in search of the al Qaeda network that was operational in Karachi, and it was at the instruction of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed that Daniel Pearl was killed."[33] On October 12, 2006, Time magazine reported that "Khalid Sheikh Mohammed confessed under CIA interrogation that he personally committed the murder." On March 15, 2007, the Pentagon released a statement that Mohammed had confessed to the murder. The statement quoted Mohammed as saying, "I decapitated with my blessed right hand the head of the American Jew, Daniel Pearl, in the city of Karachi, Pakistan. For those who would like to confirm, there are pictures of me on the Internet holding his head."
Posted by: McBain | Jan 11, 2009 10:13:47 PM
Say what you want but Bush has keep up from being attacked again and this is the thanks he gets? What on earth is Obama thinking? Does he care more about pandering to his far left base or protecting the American people?
Posted by: dlc | Jan 11, 2009 11:07:04 PM
Be Very Careful Mr President Elect!
Once the Genie is out of the bottle
you can't put it back in!
The Republicans will be back in power
some day and payback is a Bitch!
If you want to prosecute someone start
with your Secretary of State designate,
Hillary Clinton, then go to your
VP-Elect, Joe Biden and the rest of
your Democrat colleagues in the
Congress who went along with the
decision to invade Iraq and kept yelling
about the WMD that Saddam had!
You'd better move forward and don't
listen to the leftwing kooks in your
Party.
Posted by: reaganfan | Jan 11, 2009 11:27:55 PM
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