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Pawlenty Backs Off Nullification
September 13, 2009 11:47 AM
On 'This Week', Minn. Governor Tim Pawlenty backed away from earlier statements suggesting he'd invoke the 10th Amendment to block Obama's health care reforms if they pass the Congress.
On Thursday, Pawlenty argued that Minnesota and other states might move to "nullify" Obama's health care plan.
"Depending on what the federal government comes out with here, asserting the 10th Amendment may be a viable option, but we don't know the details," said Pawlenty.
The Governor also raised the possibility of filing Tenth Amendment lawsuits.
But when I asked about those comments today, Pawlenty said he was suggesting a "political" not a "legal" effort.
GEORGE: After the speech on Thursday night, you suggested perhaps invoking the Tenth Amendment, which reserves powers to the states, if indeed this does pass. What exactly are you saying? There is a movement to actually nullify health care if it passes?
PAWLENTY: Well, George, in the legal sense, I think the courts have addressed these Tenth Amendment issues, but more in the political sense, in the common sense arena, we need to have a clear understanding of what the federal government does well and what should be reserved to the states.
"We have essentially Obamacare that's been deployed in two states in major ways. One is in Tennessee. We have a Democratic governor, Phil Bredesen, said hey, look, we tried this cost savings as a way to fund a major overhaul of health care; it didn't work. He's in the news this morning saying, you know, don't go down that path.
"We have another state, Massachusetts, who tried essentially the same thing. They have the most expensive health care in the country. They have increasing waiting lines, and it's not working."
STEPHANOPOULOS: So just to be clear, are you suggesting that any parts of the plan as the president has laid it out are unconstitutional?
PAWLENTY: Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a legal issue. I was raising it as much as a practical matter, that there are some things that the federal government shouldn't do, doesn't do well, and should leave to the states."
Watch the full exchange HERE.
-George Stephanopoulos
September 13, 2009 in Health Care, Republicans, This Week with George Stephanopoulos | Permalink | Share | User Comments (81)
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He was probably waiting to see the results of the national tea party attendance. Good thing he's leaving office. It's highly unlikely he would win another election.
Posted by: rightbehind | Sep 13, 2009 12:05:43 PM
It's also highly unlikely your liberal bed wetters will get a free doctor visit on my dime, as well.
Posted by: WhatChange? | Sep 13, 2009 12:13:13 PM
I say let's let the states decide if they want to participate or not. If they don't want to, they won't have to pay in and thier residents will see no benefits. Those that do want to participate can. Then these Republican governors can explain to thier states why they are still paying through the roof for health insurance while the rest of us live with the peace that we are not one illness away from losing everything.
Posted by: Butterfly | Sep 13, 2009 12:14:13 PM
That thought process didn't work for South Carolina before the Civil War, either.
Posted by: WhatChange? | Sep 13, 2009 12:19:30 PM
this is all so laughable....still how is this going to be paid for?
Posted by: catman | Sep 13, 2009 12:24:26 PM
What would happen if some states accepted and other states refused health reform, some states would become health debt ridden while other states would benefit very well from health reform. Citizens would relocate to states who have health reform leaving left behind states in the dust to become "ghost" states. Putin may very well be correct. America is falling apart, and left prey to Iran, Russia, China, or even the Taliban or worse. Health care reform is very important to pass and become available to its citizens in America otherwise beware of a extremely slow dying America.
Posted by: Elle | Sep 13, 2009 12:25:04 PM
I used to think that Pawlenty was one of the smarter, more moderate Republicans. He just caters to the haters, like most of the rest.
Posted by: Phoenix lady | Sep 13, 2009 12:26:52 PM
I am happy Gov. Pauley has backed off. If the republicans decided to go this route, they would see a revolt like never before. If you think the tea parties were big you will definitely under estimate the size of the march on his office will produce and any other states including Georgia which is my state. The people want health care. The answer is to work together to get it. Period.
Posted by: talmag | Sep 13, 2009 12:26:58 PM
So, once again you have Republicans telling anyone who will give them 5 minutes of TV time that their state will look into ways of getting out of something designed to help them a la the stimulus package. Forget the impact it may have on the residents of their state. You now have Governors who will decide what things they will accept from the President and what they won't. How about they just refuse everything coming from the Federal Government and be done with it. Refuse ALL funds and run your state how you see fit. Man up on that and see what your constituents say about that. Talking like that Pawlenty might get you a few far right wing supporters but they won't help you when you and your state stand alone.
Posted by: catmom | Sep 13, 2009 12:28:13 PM
WhatChange? You really make me lauph you just like the rest of you repunlican morons who allow yourselves to be programed by fox news because you are tostupid to have an idea of your own are really pathetic. You dont even realize that the very people telling you helth care reform is bad for you will destrot america will kill grama will cause an end of the world ect ect are the insurence companies and the republicans. The very people that stand to lose billions if the public health option comes into affect and you are so stupid you just eat up there lies. You want to know something moron I am in the middle east and guess what the former president your hero George Bush did in iraq. He used your tax payer dollars to set up and fund and pay for Iraq's current universal health care system. The republican want it for them are willing to pay for it with your money but its a bad idea for you to have it. You instead should continue to get ripped off by big insurence. You are an idiot please please please not reproduce!!
Posted by: mike | Sep 13, 2009 12:28:27 PM
Elle: What you suggest already happens. In states with great benefits recipients flock there to live. In Tennessee as soon as Tenncare was enacted people who had insurance but paid what the considered too much, dropped it and signed up for Tenncare, especially if they needed an operation.Even after the program was reformed people who neglect to carry a policy simply wait until they are sick, check into a hospital and the hospital signs them up. I am not saying that that there is people who doesn't need help but there are many who want a boat, new car or motorcyle instead of looking after their own health care needs and they want someone else, whom they think has more, to pay for it.
Posted by: david | Sep 13, 2009 12:34:43 PM
I live in Massachusetts and I don't see any waiting lines? If the governor means waiting to see a doctor or specialist, its the same. I have private health and my parents use the Mass Health. I don't see any difference. We both still have to make appointments and BOTH still have to WAIT for the office to give us an open slot.
Posted by: Tom | Sep 13, 2009 12:35:37 PM
rightbehind; Your chance to vote him out! Up or down. Go for it!
Posted by: LongT | Sep 13, 2009 12:36:10 PM
Wow, no wonder nobody wants to live in SC!
Posted by: David | Sep 13, 2009 12:43:10 PM
The irony of the Republican party is that they state they are pro-life (although 5 of the 6 Republican appointees on the Roe v Wade Supreme Court voted in pro-choice) the Republicans seem so unwilling to yield on providing life services after birth.
Posted by: Frank | Sep 13, 2009 12:44:19 PM
The Republican Party is a masked party. They want all for them and none for others. Therefore, Republican ideology is no different than Communistic Regimes. And that would make Republicans a non Christian party. Jesus Christ was the great healer, the great physician, free of charge for his health care services. Possibly the exchange may have been free nights stay and food provided by the family in health crisis. Jesus would explain to rich kings and folks who asked "How do I get into the Kingdom of Heaven?" Jesus would reply that they had to sell and give away everything they owned to those in need. Well, the story goes with the rich king living Jesus crying. The rich king wasn't willing to do away with everything. Republicans are no different. They want to keep everything for themselves and give absolutely nothing to others who are in need or different than they are. Therefore Republicans aren't Christian and are fraudulant in their presentation of saying they are Christian. Republicans believe in "the survival of the fittest" and no less than. This ideology would prove they do believe in Darwin, since Darwin is one who drew Evolution from the statement of survival of the fittest. In conclusion, Republicans are highly dysfunctional and psychotic in that the pretend to be something that they aren't and on the other end they are wolves dressed in sheep clothing. Republicans are highly dysfustioncal individuals and groups who keep changing the subject or topic of the day, hoping their sales pitch will stick like cooked pasta to vertical walls. We all know that when the hot pasta cools, it will fall down from the wall. It's just a matter of time that the Republican Party will fall and be placed in rehab. With any luck they will come out of rehab Centrists, or willing to meet in the middle for a "Jesus" meeting to determine effectiveness of therapy. If they pass, they get to leave rehab, if not, oh well, back to therapy. Health care reform must pass for the financial and physical health of America, its 50 states and territories, and most of all its citizens as a whole. Synergy doesn't work unless all of its parts are working in collaboration. Communism fails if only system. Free markets and social programs must work together to keep synergy otherwise, the system become very ineffective and stops working at all. Pass health care reforms fall 2009. Be there!
Posted by: Elle | Sep 13, 2009 12:50:01 PM
When I hear people say "How are we going to pay for this" or "You will not get health care on my dollar" I just think about all the trillions of dollars government spends anyway (both parties) on things we know nothing about and some things we do know about, the money will be spent anyway and I think Healthcare is good way to spend my dimes
Posted by: Jay | Sep 13, 2009 12:50:12 PM
Government based health care has been proven time and again to NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY. Do you really want a political system making your decisions about your health and well-being? Tennesse and Mass. are just current examples of the problems "Obamacare" will create. What happened to freedom of choice?
Posted by: Stephen | Sep 13, 2009 12:52:32 PM
Pawlenty is a WIMP and a TRAITOR to the U.S. Constitution.
Posted by: Robert | Sep 13, 2009 1:05:00 PM
I see, so some of you claim government healthcare like the VA, Tricare, Medicare and Medicaid has been proved again and again not to work. Why doesn't the Republican Party have the guts to put a bill on the House and Senate floors eliminating them and replacing these programs with private sector vouchers and tax credits?
Pawlenty just knows he's not considered right wing enough to beat the real crazies in a primary and that's why he's saying all this stupid stuff. Even if he decided to exclude his state from reform, he can't stop the Federal taxes that his citizens would have to pay. He would face a revolt far worse than the petty governors who resisted the stimulus funds faced.
Here's the deal, health care reform is going to pass and it will be the moderate bill that Obama favors, with a strong trigger but no public option in the final passage. This will happen no matter how much Republicans continue with their immature lies and BS.
Posted by: Lpz | Sep 13, 2009 1:05:59 PM
Are you a Vampire, a Werewolve, or both? To control masses, dictators must make their people not think or be educated. The more dictators confuse, and use scare tactics, the more they control their massess. Republicans use these tactics daily, scamble words, and censor information, keeping their masses with little knowledge. Republicans are controlling, manipulative, intimidating, and have massive meltdowns if they don't get their way. Health care reform is for everyone to choose, which Democrats give choices. Republicans don't want anyone to have choices. In conclusion, choices lower prices and gives more financial cash flow for balance budgets of income and expenses. Pass Health Care Reform for a much more financial and physical healthy America. Pass Health Care Reform Fall 2009. Be there!
Posted by: Elle | Sep 13, 2009 1:06:29 PM
we dont have any money and we dont have any jobs....how is this going to be apid for? pretty simple question
Posted by: catman | Sep 13, 2009 1:07:01 PM
What a coward!
Posted by: Matthew | Sep 13, 2009 1:07:48 PM
Stephen making dedsisions about your well being? Freedom of choise?? Do you really belive that we have that now?? Are you really that brainwashed? Wanna know what happeneds to me and my wife last year. We had a private health care company plan. Our Doctor prescribed some medicine for my wife that was evidently pretty expencive. Well when we went to fill the prescription the lady at the counter said im sorry. We just contacted your insurence company and the said they would not pay for this medicine. They say you have to try a over the counter medicine instead they wont pay for this. Well since we dont have a lot of money and the prescription was expencive we bought thee over the counter meds they said to by. My wife got worse. Finaly I borrowed the money we needed and bought the medicine the doctor prescribed. Also forget about ueing them you dont have enouph money to fight it in court they have a battalion of high priced lawyers that will put it off and off and off till you are broke.
Posted by: mike | Sep 13, 2009 1:11:42 PM
There are three kinds of people. Sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. What kind are you?
Posted by: LongT | Sep 13, 2009 1:14:03 PM
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