Drum Roll ... House Health Care Bill To Be Unveiled Tomorrow

I hope this works. Health Care needs fixing so I can only hope the public option is the answer. I know this has been a hard decision for our Senators and Congressional Representatives to make but hopefully it will be a wise one.

Nothing new here, she's just been forced to a bit more moderate (and expensive, since moderate is code word for "pandering to the status quo industry lobbyists") public option. It's going on 10 months now, but that's how Congress has always worked I guess.

Pelosi bill, Baucus bill, Reid bill, what is this clash of the idiots? What part of 59% of the American public are against this legislation do you not understand?

If it has the public option, everybody knows it is Dead on arrival.
Why won't the dems concentrate on cost instead of trying for bigger inefficient government plans? They could get a lot of independents on board for sure. Republicans would have to go along. If only the loony left would think more rationally......

post it online ...let us read the "fine" print

If a bill covering 35 to 36 million people costs 900 billion, how much is it going to cost when the private companies pull out and there are 330 million on the government plan? Senate and Congress are giving them a specific number to cover, which is a very LOW estimation. The CBO is giving a cost on THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER. SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

wheresmymoney --- The government estimate was 5% or 15 million along with the 30 million (most of those subsidized). I think a safe bet would be at least 100 million which is double that of the total government estimate. Remember, we've done absolutely nothing to lower health care costs, only our insurance premiums!

"If it has the public option, everybody knows it is Dead on arrival.
Why won't the dems concentrate on cost"
jonny | Oct 28, 2009 3:04:17 PM

The public option is likely to have the largest impact on bringing down costs or 'bending the cost curve.' The only reason it is difficult to get into law is the $2-$3 trillion a year health care industry is fighting against it tooth and nail - the costs it would bring down pad their payrolls and profits.

"What part of 59% of the American public are against this legislation do you not understand?"
lfrichar | Oct 28, 2009 3:04:14 PM

Polls actually dictate whether they keep their jobs or not next year, hence I doubt you'll get anyone who matters by pushing that 59% lie.

George, why do I have to get the news from Yahoo instead of a news station. The big boys now say they are against the public option which includes GE, Wal Mart and Verizon as well as the Chamber of Commerce all saying the public option is too expensive. That must be a big blow to Obama who bailed out GE with billions of dollars of tarp money.

jhw539---- Are you serious? The majority of Americans want "health care reform". The majority of Americans are against this legislation (pick either one). Which polls would you like to see. Not one poll shows the majority for this bill. Which part of that do you not understand.

Senate and Congress are giving them a specific number to cover, which is a very LOW estimation. The CBO is giving a cost on THAT SPECIFIC NUMBER. SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
wheresmymoney | Oct 28, 2009 3:07:30 PM

That is a lie. The CBO is basing their number upon the legislation.

If the private companies pull out, then the public option will be far more economical. It is not free and would benefit from the huge influx of high rate paying customers (and the private insurance companies have done very well at selecting to insure the least expensive to actually cover segment of our population).

Your argument isn't smoke and mirrors, it is just more lies.

Libs who support this, please consider this scenario: What if your fellow Americans elect a conservative religious fanatic in 2012? This guy wants to force individuals to own Bibles. If you don't have one, you'll pay a fine. If you refuse the fine, you'll be reported to the IRS who will then proceed to take your house and send you to prison. If people can't afford one, there will be a "public option" so that the needy can get a Bible "for free". Of course that simply means that you are paying for these "public Bibles" anyway through taxes.

Now currently, this situation is impossible. The Constitution gives the Federal Government "enumerated powers." And since mandating ownership of ANYTHING is not in those powers, they simply can't do that. And that's what makes us a free country...

Right now, they are simply ignoring that they don't have the authority to mandate the purchase of Health Insurance. And if you let them do it now, what are you going to say when they want to mandate Bibles? Or guns? Or multivitamins? Or anything else you don't agree with? They will have done it before, so they can certainly do it again...

That is why you should be against this legislation. They will have ignored the limits of their own power. And when the party you hate is in power, they'll do it again in a way that you despise. It happens every time.

That is the real reason why you should be against this legislation.

Of course Bibles aren't the same as Health Insurance, but hopefully you understand my point. If you or I don't want a good or service, they shouldn't be able to force us to get it in the Land of the Free. Period.

Don't you think George Bush would've loved to force us to buy stock in the oil companies of his buddies? I mean, oil is getting expensive again, and the companies are making HUGE profits! Now we should all take responsibility for our energy use, right?

See what I mean? They don't and shouldn't have that power.

jhw539 --- I don't know what you pay now, but have you seen any numbers at all for the cost of this government insurance company? They continuously boast they will be cheaper, well show us. You appear to have much confidence in our government, but I have worked for our government for over 20 years. I cannot show the same confidence.

I am for "health care reform" but I do not get how forcing people to buy something they cannot afford = health care reform? Where is the "health care" in this deal? No monthly premium cost containment, they just cannot refuse to offer you coverage...so $2000 a month for someone with a pre-existing is not exclusion, it also is not affordable. I am fairly healthy and make 21k a yr, I take home $1278 a month after taxes, housing alone takes $700. I make enough to be penalized because I cannot afford to buy coverage.YOu know what? I am still going to be without care AND I am going to be living in my car after paying the penalties. How exactly is THAT an improvement!?!
What planet do these people live on anyway? Problem is, we have a congress full of people who do not understand the real problem, trying to fix it. How about we fix health care delivery, contain costs, and stop trying to pad insurance company profits? THAT would sure be refreshing!

jhw539

remind us all of an example of the govt bringing down costs on anything?

DejaBlu503 ---- Your situation is exactly where government subsidation would come in. The government would either pay a portion of it for you or give you a break in taxes. As they will for every person in your situation. Many people who can't afford it now, won't be able to afford it when the government takes over. More subsidation and raising the cost of the program. "Deficit Neutral" is a pipe dream and if everyone on this forum doesn't own up to that, they're not facing reality.

Altogether it is Rahm Bill.

Throw dead fish on the Nay sayers - Rahm.

funny my insurance i just picked out for next year went down 100.00 dollars no change in premiums or deductible i love it so no not all insurance companys are bad i have a family plan its great also i have never had a problem with any insurance company in my lifetime lets just say im a 1/2 century old and going strong

Curious if this bill will also include the illegal immigrant population, and if they are not insured, will they be forced to pay for the penalties or would this cost be absorbed by the government?

Botox pelosi's bill for government-run heathcare is SO SCARY, it should be released on Halloween.

Please, DO NOT let your children look at it - they will have nightmares of massive government deficits that THEY will have to pay for for their entire life.

My mother once told me that she was happy that her medication was so low that she could afford it. 10 dollars for a month prescription. But after the election it went up to 100 dollars.
the insurance and pharmaceuticals knows how to play games.

"The total cost is about $900 billion. The Congressional Budget Office is still crunching the numbers, a final number is expected tonight."

Where are we getting the money to pay for this? Everyone knows the government doesn't save their way to pay for new projects.

"The total cost is about $900 billion. The Congressional Budget Office is still crunching the numbers, a final number is expected tonight."

Where are we getting the money to pay for this? Everyone knows the government doesn't save their way to pay for new projects.