GOP Civil War – It’s Not Over Yet

Hey George! I am a RESIDENT of NY-23, unlike Doug Hoffman. DeDe represented conservatives like me from New York, not Sean Hannity or Sarah Palin conservatives that have nothing in common with our way of life. The Republican party needs to come to terms that the nation, particularly my generation who voted for Barack in droves, are swinging more to the left each day. The longer that conservatives push people like Crist and DeDe out of the way for people like Doug Hoffman (who doesnt even live in our district)/ Check out the ONLY debate from NY23 last week, you'll see a clear winner. DeDe was our last hope. As a former PALIN republican, and a former aid for Hillary Clinton's 2008 bid, I am now officially without a party. Thank you Sarah Palin, I'm now with Newt.

What civil war the people dont want some lib. so they show they will not vote for that person does not create anything but the rebublic at work not war.

NY-23 is a small contest in an off year. It makes for good headlines, but I don't read much into it yet. The races where Republicans have to win, they are going moderate. Mike Castle is in the Senate race in Delaware - he's a moderate. Mark Kirk is in the Senate race in Illinois - again, a moderate. If the radical conservatives take down these two strong chances to take Senate seats in the name of their hard right ideology, THEN it's a civil war. Right now it's meaningless posturing over filling a seat in the House - 40.8% versus a 41.1% minority caucus size qualifies as meaningless.

I'm a moderate Republican and will NOT lock step with the Hoffman imbeciles from OUT of our district. It's time that these outsiders that have influenced this race are defeated by a person that represents OUR district. Man, I am P.O. and will be voting for Owens. When they slapped DeDe in the face, they slapped our entire district. Keep you noses out of our district!

As someone whose family was part of starting the Republican party in the US, I am saddened by what is happening. However, it does open up the political landscape for another party that will balance the Democrats in an educated, thoughtful, and empathetic way. The Republican party, as I knew it, seems to be history.

With DeDe out of the race, I'm not sure what to do. Owens is more like my kind of Republican than Hoffman, but I am more inclined to pass on this election altogether. I don't remember anyone asking Palin's opinion either! I wish she would just stay out of our business, considering how poorly she's conducted her own in the last year.

Limberger/Palin 2012

The dems control the dem statehouse, have huge majorities in u.s house and filibuster proof senate and you want more power to Pelosi.

Obama will have 6 supreme court picks.

This is a one party nation and you are worried about doug hoffman.

NY is down to two republicans and Paterson has made a mess of the state but that isn't the issue doug hoffman is.

Fine be happy with your one party system.

This was an unusual election.

There was no primary because it was a special election. If there was a primary doug hoffman wouldn't have won and some mainstream republican would have won the primary not dede but another more mainstream republican than hoffman.

Because there was no primary Dede was picked by the party bosses and county chairmen.

It turns out Dede's husband has democratic roots and close to labor that was the big issue.

This was a cynical ploy by the white house and Rahm Emanuel they pushed out Mchugh from the seat so they could get a chance for a pickup. They also offered peter king an ambassador from ireland position.

Also the GOP is coming back in NY because of paterson. Giuliani in a matchup with gillibrand would win 53-36 percent. Pataki would defeat gillibrand

What about the dems running lieberman out of the party?

What about the dems running dingell out of the enviornment committee and putting henry waxman there so he could give us huge tax increases in climate change bill.

The dems have moved far left.

McCain won the gop nomination and Rush and Hannity bashed him everyday.

The Gop is running moderates all across the country from Mike Castle in deleware to Mark Kirk in Illinios to a moderate female politician in new hampshire running for the senate kelly anotte.

McCain ran supporting stem cells, supporting prescrition drugs from canada, voted against constituational amendment on same sex marraige.

McCain was a moderate and the media loved him until he won the nomination and then they made him out to be an extremist. This was even before he was desperate and wanted and outsider female.

So the media will eat any gop alive.

The media wants a one party system and with massive immigration we are headed for permanent democratic supremacy anyway.

Be happy with permanent affirmative action with 9 liberal supreme court justices.

Try getting into a good college if you aren't a minority. It will be impossible.

Look the demographics in this country with massive immigration point to one party democratic rule forever.

In 1980 90 percent of the electorate was white and now 50 percent of the children under 5 years of age are non white.

Obama is taking away the powers of local sheriffs to patrol against illegal immigration.

There will be a permanent democratic majority forever and ever and permanent one party rule with the demographic explosion from illegal immigration.

So Doug Hoffman is a non entity.

If republicans loose the next 3 races they will be rethinking their policies and fast. It will be obvious at that time that an entire nation has turned on them. They will throw the hardcore conservative base in the dump. limblaugh will more than likely need new employment.

GOP has more moderates than dems do.

Richard Lugar, Murkowski, snowe, collins, voinovich, martinez.

Gop moderates voted for hate crimes law.

Gop moderates voted for stem cell bill.

Dems are the ones who put a litmus test on people they ran lieberman out of the party.

Dems kicked out a moderate in energy committee and put in harry waxman who wants higher taxes with climate change bill.

Dems filibustered medical malpractice reform and every bill that had merit when gop was in control.

Dems all of them filibustered miguel estrada to be a judge because they didn't want the first hispanic judge to be a conservative on the supreme court.

10 republicans voted for sotomayor.

Gop allows far greater diversity in opinions than the dems.

But dems have the media on their side and now we have one party rule. There are ZERO checks and balances.

Dems always had the filibuster under bush. Now GOP has no filibuster in the senate and dems have 60 senators and huge majority in the house.

Obama will have at least 6 u.s supreme court picks you have no idea how liberal the court will be and what kind of rulings are awaiting us.

This is bad for our country to have no checks and balances.

We have run away spending which is adding massive debt and causing a weak dollar which in turn is making gas prices rise again.

Nancy Pelosi already has 257 dem members in the house compared to 178 gop.

That isn't big enough you want to give Pelosi 300 house members and get the gop down to 130.

Also you dems also kicked went after moderate republicans too you tried to take down susan collins saying she was a bush clone in her race when that was a lie and you took down lincoln chafee.

How much more of a huge majority do you want pelosi to have.

It is horrible for democracy to have ZERO checks and balances.

This race is meaningless Doug Hoffman or no Doug Hoffman Pelosi rules the house and will for the next decade.

Hope you love your one party rule with 9 liberal supreme court justices and 70 dem senators and 300 dem house members.

Maybe you want every person in america to be a democrat before you dems are happy.

There are 2 republicans out of 29 house seats in new york.

Yeah real balance. But Doug Hoffman is the issue.

Not david paterson. Not run away spending.

No Doug Hoffman.

Enjoy your one party rule.

Chris Christie of New Jersey won the primary as a moderate republican against lonegan who ran as a republican.

Media didn't highlight this because the media wants a one party system.

McCain defeated the rush crowd in the primary who railed against him everyday.

McCain even won the south carolina primary.

So this idea that rush rules the republican party is a joke.

The only reason why there wasn't a primary in the republican party for the voters was because rahm emanuel cynically wanted this by taking the republican for the seat and making him army secretary.

Be angry at the white house for taking a good moderate republican out of the district for cynical political reasons. They also tried this with pete king offering him the ambassador to ireland.

If there was a primary instead of party bosses picking a more mainstream republican would be representing the right instead of hoffman. A primary would have solved everything. It is only in special elections you don't have primaries.

There will be a primary next year for 2010 for the race.

Also New York is one of the few states with a separate conservative party. So this was a very unique occurence.

Chris Christie of New Jersey won the primary as a moderate republican against lonegan who ran as a republican.

Media didn't highlight this because the media wants a one party system.

McCain defeated the rush crowd in the primary who railed against him everyday.

McCain even won the south carolina primary.

So this idea that rush rules the republican party is a joke.

The only reason why there wasn't a primary in the republican party for the voters was because rahm emanuel cynically wanted this by taking the republican for the seat and making him army secretary.

Be angry at the white house for taking a good moderate republican out of the district for cynical political reasons. They also tried this with pete king offering him the ambassador to ireland.

If there was a primary instead of party bosses picking a more mainstream republican would be representing the right instead of hoffman. A primary would have solved everything. It is only in special elections you don't have primaries.

There will be a primary next year for 2010 for the race.

Also New York is one of the few states with a separate conservative party. So this was a very unique occurence.

Actually Creigh Deeds the dem in virignia is saying the dem party is the one out of the mainstream and that is why he is losing in virginia.

Rudy Guliani would beat Gillibrand in a poll by 17 percent.

Republican in Virginia is getting 55 percent.

Dems are not following the numbers they don't realize how many indepdents don't like one party power without checks and balances and how far left dems are.

Also Palin had nothing to do with this race. Fred Thompson was the first major endorser and Dede was already crashing because of her husband's close ties with labor and dem party machine and her past votes.

Dede was in second place with no money by the time palin jumped on the bandwagon.

palin has never met hoffman.

Doug Hoffman was the main accountant for the 1980 lake placid olympics.

He has better credentials than nancy pelosi lapdog bill owens.

Van Jones in the white house and that isn't too extreme but doug hoffman who would have no power is what upsets moderate republicans.

Maybe moderate republicans need to see 9 liberal u.s supreme court justices and see 8 years of far left power before they wake up.

Obama who used the race card against the clintons.

Bill Clinton governed far more moderate than Obama.

Jon Huntsman will be a future republican party nominee who was cynically used by rahm emanuel to take away obama's toughest opponent and he believes in service so he was sent to china. Huntsman ran the best run state in the country and is a moderate.

The moderates rule the republican party mccain won with limbaugh and hannity ripping him every day.

The media wants you to think rush has more power than he has so they can paint gop in a terrible light and have permanent one party dem control.

Why do you think the media talks about beck and limbaugh so much?

What about the dem purity tests.

Dems kicked out lieberman and running sestak against specter.

Dems kick out any moderates from their party.

A moderate democrat could never win the democratic primary.

Jeff,
Get a grip.

Ron Paul is making inroads.

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Bye bye, Corzine.....

Nicholas Rastegar | Nov 1, 2009 11:53:41 AM.......What do you define a "conservative" as?