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Madame Justice
January 28, 2007 4:30 PM
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said in a speech Friday night that she didn't like being "all alone on the Court," according to this account by the Associated Press. And I don’t think she was talking about being the only Justice from Brooklyn. Minor digression: Did you know that Scalia and Alito were both born in Trenton NJ? I don’t have a point to make about that, except it seems like a fun fact. Here’s a less-fun fact: Not one of our justices graduated from the great University of Chicago Law School, and I don’t have huge hopes for the future, since all the shortlisters, sadly, went elsewhere. Scalia did teach there, as we all know, but Northwestern is just crushing us with JPS…until he retires at the end of this term. Then it’s all Harvard and Yale and Columbia (yawn). WAIT! That was another joke! Stop! I DO NOT KNOW the precise date Stevens will step down, which I lamely kidded about to Bashman.. (Sorry guys, clearly, I am not as funny as I think I am.) I will say this, emphatically, all joking aside: John Paul Stevens is showing no signs of slowing down or stepping down. When I interviewed him after President Ford’s funeral, he was sharp and engaged—and as hale and hearty as ever. He seemed to have more energy than I did (as my producer kept telling me), and he’d been up since 5 a.m. to travel to DC for the funeral. But if Stevens were to step down--which again he certainly isn’t signaling, I was just kidding about that!--the pressure to replace him with a woman will be enormous. Ruth Bader Ginsburg has already started beating the drum. Which gets me back to where I started, with her speech at Suffolk University Law School, when she talked about life on the Supreme Court a year after Sandra Day O’Connor retired. The speech was on the heels of an interesting interview Joan Biskupic had in last week’s USA Today, when Ginsburg said she missed O’Connor terribly and speculated that her absence this term—with high-profile cases on abortion and race—would be “revealing.” In both, Ginsburg emphasized why the Court needs gender diversity. O’Connor has made similar points. In my interviews with her for my book, O’Connor was her trademark blunt self. She said she was “so sad” a woman didn’t replace her—just “so sad it didn’t happen.” She said she thought President Bush should have tapped a woman—and she listed a number of possible candidates. (None of whom, btw, were nearly conservative enough for the Bush White House. Judge Deanell Tacha on the 10th Circuit was one name O’Connor mentioned to me, and she was never seriously considered.) Back when O'Connor took the bench, it was a different place. The robing room, where the justices don their robes before taking the bench, didn’t have a women’s restroom, and she had to go down the hall just to use the restroom of the court's still-mostly female clerical staff. I wrote a bit about O’Connor’s experiences—how Byron White brought her to tears in her very first conference--and why she thinks having women—plural—on the Court is important. Last November, when I interviewed Chief Justice Roberts at the University of Miami, I asked him about the make-up of the Court now that Ginsburg is the only female justice. "I think diversity on the Court is an important feature," the chief justice said. "I think we have a very diverse bench in terms of the backgrounds of the people." Digression: A Court with nine former federal appeals court judges, all of whom went to law school at Yale, Harvard or Columbia? And most of whom like opera better than football? That’s “very diverse?” Hmmmm…. Roberts continued, predicting: "I'm sure in the future there will be more women on the bench than just one." Now I agree with that. If Stevens retires—not Ginsburg—we would most likely be looking at having two women on the bench. I'll take this opportunity (sorry guys, but it’s really all I’ve thought about for the past two years, so bear with me) to again plug my new book, Supreme Conflict. I talk about the failed nomination of White House Counsel Harriet Miers, and I go through all the prospective nominees if Bush gets another vacancy—who’s in and who’s out. The most likely contenders if Bush gets another nomination are Judges Priscilla Owen or Janice Rogers Brown. Maura Corrigan of the Michigan Supreme Court was a favorite, but she’s got a mess on her hands with her court now. Diane Sykes of the 7th Circuit also is highly regarded, but not a frontrunner yet. Owen and Brown would be a battle in a Democratic-controlled Senate, but that’s a fight Bush doesn’t mind having. Change the subject! Rally supporters! The Supreme Court is the only thing that’s gone right for Bush, as I argued in this Washington Post piece last week. And if they lose, Maureen Mahoney (aka the “female John Roberts”) is always waiting in the wings. Speaking of the book, I’ve been deeply gratified by the kind words and reviews I’ve received--especially from legal scholars and professors I’ve long admired. I'm off on a week-long book tour today to Chicago, LA and San Francisco, and I’m very much looking forward to talking about it all. I’m especially excited to be heading to Chicago, where I started my career at the Tribune and went to law school. I’m going to talk to a lot of my old media friends and give a few speeches, including a talk at my inlaws’ temple in Northbrook. I am not, however, excited that the high temperature is supposed to be 19 degrees (Chicago: Greatest City in the World except for September, October, November, December, January, February, March and April!). I will be ready for LA, where I’m looking forward to a fabulous event at Pepperdine with Dean Kenneth Starr, Doug Kmiec, Jesse Choper and Jonathan Varat. Starr, as you know if you’ve heard me talking about my book, was supposed to be the nominee instead of David Souter. That is a fascinating story, how Starr lost out. I head back to Washington Sunday, just in time to see the Super Bowl—and that great SEC quarterback matchup: Grossman v. Manning, Florida v. Tennessee. Fortunately, Grossman is playing for the Bears, since an Alabama fan never ever would pull for Tennessee, no matter what. (OK, I would still pull for the Bears, even if Manning were the QB. Though a QB can affect how you see a team. I must admit I love the Packers—which enrages my husband—because I adore Brett Farve, who did beat Alabama when he played at USM. I do not hold a grudge.) Speaking of Alabama, I hear Joe Namath (Best Superbowl QB ever) is doing very well these days. And that Nick Saban is getting us on the path to success, as we all knew he would. Go Bears!
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Two observations and one question. The question - someone else has already asked this, but I think they did so before it was clear that there would even be one - is regarding the book tour, specifically, where and when? Is Indianapolis on the schedule, or does that depend on whether we destroy the Bears or just give 'em a brusing? ;)
Observations - regarding the next vacancy, I would have thought that Sykes or Callahan must surely be the frontrunners at this stage, if only for reasons of brute political reality. A Brown nomination would surely fail in this Senate, and an Owen nomination would seem to invite it. Sykes' confirmation hearings were more contentious than, say, Roberts' CA hearings, but less so than some others, and she would be my first choice (she will also apparently be speaking at the FedSoc gathering at Northwestern next month, for those considering attending). On the subject of Justice Ginsburg's putative loneliness on the bench, I had just commented on that at SCOTUSblog. Justice Ginsburg is hardly "all alone on the court," insofar as she has at least two (and often three) colleagues that she can rely on to agree with her in most instances. And while I don't know if there is a distinctively "female" point of view, I'm fairly certain that if it exists, and it's making a difference in how you're deciding cases, there's something wrong with how you're deciding cases. I am still not sure, for example, what difference a Judge's gender can make "to the question of whether the due process clause 'prohibit[s] Arizona’s use of an insanity test stated solely in terms of the capacity to tell whether an act charged as a crime was right or wrong,' Clark v. Arizona, whether a dam 'raises [sufficient] potential for a discharge ... [that] §401 [of the Clean Water Act] is triggered and [thus] state certification is required,' S.D. Warren Co. v. Maine Bd. of Environmental Protection, ... [or] whether '[a] refusal to apply the Federal Tort Claims Act’s judgment bar is open to collateral appeal,' Will v. Hallock.
Posted by: Simon | Jan 28, 2007 10:51:34 PM
Just finished "Supreme Conflict" yesterday; thank you for your efforts in preparing this well-researched and insightful book. It provides many of the inside details and nuances that those of us interested in the Court have craved for the past 20 years; I only wish we could skip ahead to 2027 to read your definitive work on the history of the Roberts court!
Posted by: Gene | Jan 29, 2007 10:01:19 AM
To follow up on Simon's comments, I was surprised not to see any mention of Judge Callahan in "Supreme Conflict". Bob Novack reported while the Miers nomination was pending that Callahan had been the runner-up, and her name was being mentioned as the nominee (perhaps by John Fund, though I can't recall) on the weekend before Miers got the nod. Any insights on her, Jan?
Posted by: Chris | Jan 29, 2007 10:28:18 AM
Owen had a bit more support in the Senate. Her cloture vote was 81-18 whereas Brown's was 65-32.
Posted by: Andrew | Jan 29, 2007 6:18:44 PM
good blog, really.
I too would like to hear your thoughts on Callahan. The vast majority of social conservatives are strongly against her but are fearful she will be nominated because she is a female hispanic who has the explicit support of Reid and Feinstein, and so she'll get confirmed.
Posted by: Joe | Jan 29, 2007 8:15:37 PM
Joe Namath the best Super Bowl QB ever? What year were you born? Try Joe Montana, Troy Aikmen, Terry Bradshaw and others. Namath was a one hit wonder. eg: Billy Ray Cyrus. Go Colts!
Posted by: Gary | Jan 29, 2007 9:14:06 PM
JCG - Bought the book on Thursday, and finished it, today. I found it to be a great read, superbly researched, and highly informative. Well done, and congratulations. (Can't say that I agree with one of your last assertions - that Justice Alito was the Conservative equivalent of Justice Ginsburg - but, that's ultimately a minor quibble.)
Quick question: you indicated in the book that Judge Owen and Judge Brown were not considered for Justice O'Connor's seat due to the tremendous fight in the Senate over appelate court nominees in 2005. I was honestly quite surprised to see that, now, they're apparently on The Shortlist for a possible SCotUS vacancy, and had expected more "off the radar" picks like Judge K. Williams or Judge D. Sykes to be leading the pack, particularly given the new Democratic majority in Congress. What changed in the administration's thinking to put them genuinely in the running?
Was it the exodus of WH Counsel Harriet Miers and the entrance of a more-committed official? The dissolution of the Gang of 14 agreement, and with it the ties that bind? The more public role of SC nominations over AC hearings, and the possiblity of greater public support for the nominee (especially given JRB's life-story)? Does the President want to go-out with a bang, or (more likely, perhaps), does he want to keep his word with the American people, and appoint justices in the motiff of Thomas and Scalia?
Thanks again for your insights and reporting. You're a blessing to the field of court-watching kremlinologists.
Posted by: Evan | Jan 29, 2007 10:18:39 PM
Do you have a schedule of book signings? Searched the web. Penguin isn't doing its job of PR
Posted by: josh | Jan 30, 2007 3:33:07 PM
Would you mind expanding on the tantalizing line in your book that refers to Sykes? It seems that that line was either an allusion to her replacing JPS or a polite way of saying she was being considered.
Posted by: Van | Feb 2, 2007 8:39:38 AM
Finally, some Alabama football tie-ins in the blog. While the reference to Joe Willie as the best SB QB ever is suspect, I like the fact that you aren't afraid to adore the QB of the arch rival of your Husband's Bears and have forgiven Favre for beating the Tide. What are your thoughts on Jon Gruden?
No really, when is JPS retiring? We won't tell anyone. Promise.
Posted by: MCD | Feb 2, 2007 4:01:36 PM
Jan, great book! I'm just sorry to know you root for Nick Satan and the Alabama Crimson Tide. Nick Satan is the only coach in football with less credibility than my school's former coach, Bob Petrino. I hope you don't hold the 1991 Fiesta Bowl against me.
On a more serious note, you broke my heart when you mentioned that Bush won't get another pick. That's the only reason left for the Bush presidency. Also, do you think Miguel Estrada could ever be persuaded to accept a Supreme Court nomination if one became available?
Posted by: Robbie | Feb 2, 2007 6:21:16 PM
Now I've read "Supreme Conflict". Great stuff. Thank you for writing it. Everybody with an interest in this subject matter should do themselves a big favor and get it.
I didn't read any mention of Consuelo (Connie) Callahan (Female 9th Circuit COA judge)in the book, which surprised me. So, again, I'd sure be interested in your thoughts about her. Bush put her on the 9th Circuit (West Coast). She's female and hispanic and she's supported by liberal California Democratic senators Boxer and Feinstein as well as by Majority Leader Reid, who according to published reports put her on his short list of "good nominees" that he gave Bush during the lead up to the Alito nomination. So all that means she would be confirmed, which is why many social conservatives worry she will be nominated for the next vacancy.
Social conservatives are strongly against her. If Boxer, Feinstein and Reid are for her, how could social conservatives be anything but against her? Social conservatives see her as another O'Connor, (So do Boxer, Feinstein and Reid), and if she is nominated to the next Supreme Court opening, many social conservatives likely will be so irate that they will sit out the next presidential election -- especially since the main reason many of them voted for Bush in the first place was precisely to not have another O'Connor put on the Supreme Court.
On the bright side, social conservatives will be pleased to read in your book that the White House lawyers had determined that Maureen Mahoney was not the kind of judicial conservative that Bush was looking for. (That's roughly your words from the book.) Social conservatives now must hope that same thinking continues, even with the Democratic majority in the Senate. (Even though she, like you, is from the Universtiy of Chicago Law School). (Don't forget Justice Stevens also taught at the University of Chicago Law School, so you can grab something from that.)
Social conservatives aren't so much concerned about nominees like Callahan and Mahoney turning into Souters (which is extreme); social conservatives are more worried they'd turn into O'Connors (which though not as extreme as Souter, is still bad and is completely unacceptable to social conservatives.)
In your book, you made a reference to Edith Clement and Karen Williams as being lesser judicial lights than Roberts and Alito, mainly because of their credentials which do not match the credentials of Roberts or Alito. That same statement probably would apply equally to the three other possible female nominees you talk about in your book as having the best chance to get picked: Owen, Brown and Sykes. That seems to focus on a basic conundrum Bush will face with his next pick. Does he pick a woman who either will be not the kind of judicial conservative Bush is looking for (like Mahoney) or who will be a lesser judicial light in terms of credentials (like Owen, Brown or Sykes)? Or does he pick a male who is the kind of judicial conservative Bush is looking for and also is highly credentialed on the level of Roberts and Alito (someone like Solicitor General Paul Clement who was the Supreme Court editor on the Harvard Law Review). It's a tough choice.
My own guess is that the next nominee will be Diane Sykes. My thinking is "first things first". She's a female and she is the kind of judicial conservative Bush wants. Also she likely will be more confirmable than either Owen or Brown; both of those two were filibustered when nominated to the Court of Appeals but Sykes was not. Sykes' lesser judicial light (in terms of credentials) will be secondary to her solidity in meeting these other criteria (female, the right kind of conservative, confirmable). Just my guess.
Thanks again for all the effort (and talent) you put into writing the book.
Posted by: Joe | Feb 3, 2007 6:08:26 PM
I don't need gender diversity, I need a judge that will hold against cases like KELO that will allow cities to seize our homes for eminent domain!
Posted by: miriam | Mar 2, 2007 2:24:30 PM
I have a feeling that both gender and racial diversity would not be so important if Janice Rogers Brown were nominated.
Posted by: Brian | Mar 3, 2007 1:02:40 AM
I don't see anyone taking up the quiz challenge, so I'll simply guess you don't have a mounted head that sings "Sweet Home Alabama". If you'd like to hear it let me know and I'll stumble through it for you. Do they really love the Gov in Birmingham?
Posted by: Greg | Mar 3, 2007 3:28:56 AM
Hey, how come my name is Greg but it's posting me as Brian? Anyway I'm saying #7 is wrong, even if I picked it for the wrong reason...
Posted by: Greg | Mar 3, 2007 3:34:28 AM
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