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Barack Obama = FLIP FLOPPER!

Can't wait for the next flip flop.

I wonder if the Moveon.org leftists feel used? I would if I were one of them.

A true man of changing his mind every second is Obama. Obama a name of change...what a joke this man is. Democrat is going to be so sorry when he get into office.

Ironic, isn't it? This leopard will keep changing its spots to get elected. Say anything, do anything and hope people will not notice. As for me, Fool me once, shame on you; Fool me twice, shame on me. He is so Twisted in his empty rhetoric and with no record and experience to back him up, he is like the proverbial "ship without a rudder." He will drift and drift.

ABC has taken the opportunity the past two days to do a hatchet job on Obama which should not be surprising after what was witnessed during the primary debate in PA. They obviously do it to play to the majority of people who post on this blog who are the biggest morons and racist i have witnessed anywhere on the net. PS Jan Obama has never flip floped on abortion rights and is a firm supporter of Roe vs Wade. Per usual ABC picks out one sentence of an entire argument and uses it in an attempt to bash Obama.

Flip, Flop Is that all anyone has to say?

The question is, is he correct?

The whole abortion issue has become one of birth control, and certainly not anything much related to health of the woman.

I forgot also to mention Jan that the two largest womens organizations that endorsed Obama said that his interview is consistant with Roe vs Wade, and is consistant with Obamas previous position. So in closing why don't you and ABC try doing some real reporting rather then pretending to be the second coming of Farce News.

Marisa, They have and said it is consistant with Roe vs Wade and Obamas previous position....So nice try!!

Obama sounds like the constitutional law professor that he is. If he weren't running for President, he'd make a great Supreme Court Justice. I don't know how the religious right can continue to choose McCain over Obama. At least Obama is on record. The real "flip flopper" on abortion is McCain, who has been all over the map on this issue.

This plane is on fire and going down. How much ammunition can Obama give the republicans? I dont know, he is the gift that keeps on giving. Obama just knocked Kerry off of his wind surfer.

I love it!

Obama getting bashed by the right and the left. Hasn't this been the establishment with in the parties?

He is an agent of change he has them both frothing at the mouth.

Take back America

Obama08

The question is not what he has flip floped on, that would take too long. The question is what has he not flip floped on? Uh Uh pause, I give up.

For those who have actually listened to Obama's speeches we know that he has been consistent. The media takes one line and tries to make issue. This may work for the ignorant but not for those we pay attention to the details. McCain has nothing better to do but try the old flip-flop trick. I hope the intelligent will not remain silent the way we did with Kerry. As we have learned the hard-way, our country in too fragile of state to fall for the political spins. Please could we all stay focused and think about what is important. Issues please. Or we could stay on the steady course of disaster as we have for the last 8 years. And whatever goes wrong never admit Your President made BAD decisions. WAKE UP AMERICA!!! Don't make the same poor choices. Our country needs you to pay enough attention so you can not be so easily fooled.

pay attention, I am trying to stay focused but it is hard to do when your eyes are crossed from trying to keep up with which direction Obama is going.

At this point in time, Obama can't lose barring a major disclosure. It doesn't matter what he says or doesn't say because of his huge solid base of loyal supporters. McCain has run a lame campaign and hasn't attracted supporter growth. Personally, I think they are the weakest 2 candidates we have fielded in several decades. Just my opinion.

roger, want to bet on that? He should be crushing McCain right now but he isn't. Hillary could have won and Obama will not get her supporters which will cause him to loose, it's pretty simple.

Obama knows what we all know -- this is a conservative country and all the libs/democrats have to fool the people into thinking they're conservative.

John McCain isn't moving to the center, he's moving towards being more conservative.

We all want conservatives. But don't be fooled by Obama - he means NONE of it.

He's a far left radical - bet on it.

@smartprimate

"A question for you... what exactly makes you Obama supporters so hot for this guy; despite his flip flops, despite his inexperience, and despite his "judgment" issues? What makes you guys swoon at his voice and quiver at his touch?'

I like his judgement. As far as swooning and quiver, not me I don't see it. I have said often over the months that he is not the liberal that everyone was making him out to be. You could pick it up in his speeches, if anyone cared to listen, mostly I think they just heard what they wanted to hear. The Republicans tried to paint him as an extreme liberal, well that is not working.

Obama sounding like Thomas and Scalia? Ouch. Just remember Obama is not really a man of principle but an opportunist looking to gain power. He'll flip back as soon as it suits his own needs.

@Jo
"John McCain isn't moving to the center, he's moving towards being more conservative.
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Boy you got that right. Just another Bush

mPCT

Obama's position has NOT changed here. You and other twisted freaks would like to make a story that isn't there.

Some will drink the koolaid if you keep serving it.

NONE FOR ME.

OBAMA 08

No country for old presidents

It has been stated that the truly educated individual can be identified as one who has made himself aware of the probable and possible consequences of his acts and non acts and responds accordingly. I know that some on this site have analyzed the probable consequences of an Obama presidency and therefore will be voting with McCain!!

What is John McCain's position on illegal immigration.

He supported a bill that would give all illegals amnesty, thereby encouraging MORE to cross the border.

But during the primaries, he said we have to build a wall first.

Now, he has dropped the "wall first" language, and NOONE KNOWS WHAT HE BELIEVES!

What did Washington, Lincoln, Kennedy, Carter, Reagan have in common that Obama does not?

They said what they meant and they meant what they said. It's called Integrity.

Sorry you Obama groupies have let yourself be fooled by a two-bit political opportunist who talks out of both sides of his mouth and has never accomplished a thing in his life.

Who knows what this chameleon believes? Interestingly, his followers don't even know he's moved far from his positions that caused them to follow him. Some people will believe anything!

The problem is that people (including the press) have been projecting their own views onto Obama. Anyone who thinks Obama is flip-flopping on abortion and Iraq has not been paying attention.

Obama has a hard time transitioning from slogans to policies!

Obama is flip flopping all over the place, what else should we really expect from a guy has been lying about every aspect of his own life and his crooked friends.

I am pro-choice and very much against late terms abortions EXCEPT to save the life of the mother or in the case of severe disability in the fetus. For those super liberals out there who seem to think late term abortions are ok - give me ONE GOOD reason why a woman should be able to terminate a baby after 22 weeks when she can wait 18 more weeks and give the child up for adoption.

Why is Obama called a flip-flopper when he's really a bald face liar?

I have to correct my statement is that i said 7 months when it is really about 5 1/2 months. But, alot of children can survive being born 3 months premature. So, I cannot see that there is any Change in Obama's position. He is still for abortion but unless there is a actual medical reason (like endangering the mother's life)after the first 22 weeks, then no!! You cannot tell me that it can take 5 months (and even as little as three months)or more for a doctor or patient to decide that an abortion is necessary due to mental issues only.

'mental disress doesn't count'

now that throws us back into the dark ages

I don't know why all the criticism here. Obama has been consistent with and faithful to his campaign platform: CHANGE as he models for all politicians how to change positions daily. CHANGE is what he runs on and he is the quintessential CHANGE artist: the newest breed of the lot.

carol: I am sure God will bless us all when McCain takes office. Because it will not be him but the people behind the scene that will be running this country. The poor will get poorer the rich will get richer; more jobs will go oversea;, our young men and women will fight in wars we should not even be in and the rest of the world will dispise us. Once America was great. The rest of the world admired us and wished their country was like ours. No more; we have lost face with the Global community. Is this the second fall of the Roman Empire?

heather: That video is soooo cool.

Linda N Carolina: You are absolutely right. Politicians do exactly what you are saying in elections. The problem, I believe, most of us have with Obama's ever-evolving principles are that he ran his entire primary campaign on "change" and being a "new" kind of politician. He lied to all of us and robbed the U.S. out of having two viable, qualified candidates running for the election of president of the United States. So the problem isn't that he "flip-flops," the problem is that his campaign is based on his character, not on his qualifications. Who knows what his character is?

wow...although many are not suprised by all of these "change of heart" issues, as a first time voter, I am really floored by it. I wouldnt think it would be considered an "honest" campain when they did this. Both sides are doing it, Im not pointing a finger at either specifically, just both in general. How is it possible to choose a leader for our country when they cannot stand firm on what they so called "believe in". I know what I would like to see happen in the white house this next term, so why, after so many years in politics, can't they figure out what they want? I mean after all, arent they the ones running for office?

Sure. Real Education with critical thinking skills should be a condition for voting rights.

Larry: Remember the republicans developed "SwiftBoating". They like twisting things to defame someone. They look for any smidge they can take out of context and use. And, if they cannot find something the will make it up.

Iam4thiscountry

Who needs swift-boating with this candidate. He's swift-boating himself.

A: you only believe that because you are listening and researching. You need to check out everything and everyside before making an informed opinion. I accidentally ended up on Fox and they were saying that McCain has changed his position so may times now that the McCain of 2002 is not the same person and even McCain does not know who McCain is. That is pathetic. If you would read what all Obama has said he really has not changed his position all that much. He has more defined. We want a president that makes his decision based on facts and makes sure he has all the info before jumping to a conclusion. And a president who is not felxable enough to compromise when necessary is not going to be good for all the people of this great country

A: I need to revise that. i ment to say "Listening and NOT researching: I am not good typing on a laptop. I miss my keyboard!!! How we get use to things and don't want to change!

Iam4thiscountry

No problem! If bloggers didn't make typos, they wouldn't be bloggers. You're in good company.

"I have said often over the months that he is not the liberal that everyone was making him out to be" Hi, have you met Obama, Thinking? Geez...Obama reeks of liberal. It takes a liberal to know a liberal, Obama, YOU SIR ARE A LIBERAL.

"The poor will get poorer the rich will get richer;" Iam4thiscountry, maybe the poor should GET AN EDUCATION AND GET A JOB. I know, sounds like crazy ideas. Working hard and smart to earn what you have. That's just crazy talk, right?

If you want real change, the only solution is to vote for Nader.

Okay--what's left? Oh yea--healthcare--we don't need no stinkin' healthcare!

Obama in '08!

Yes we can!

Omentum,
Only an Obama zombie would attack McCain because of his age and disenfranchise a huge bloc of senior voters. Keep it up, though, just as you disenfranchised Clinton supporters, all 18 million. I'm sure you will do well.
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Obama, the chief architect of BitterGate!
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I do not believe I have EVER seen a candidate flip-flop as much as Obama has. He is such a double-talker. He said things in the primary just to hook the undecided voter and now in the GE, he recants his stance and goes the other direction. He's trying to move to the center and in doing so, he's becoming more and more like George Bush.
I was a BIG Obama supporter, but now, I refuse to vote for him. He has lied and I'm beginning to believe the Clinton supporters about him. Maybe Hillary was the BETTER candidate. Barack, you got my vote once, believe me, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR YOU AGAIN!

OBAMA CAME OUT AND SAID HE WAS A "DIFFERENT" POLITICIAN....HE'S THE POLITICIAN OF "CHANGE". THIS IS A TOTAL LIE! OBAMA IS A "TYPICAL" POLICITION. HE DOESN'T PROMOTE CHANGE, HE'S NO BETTER THAN BUSH, MCCAIN, CLINTON OR ANYONE ELSE. OBAMA IS A JOKE!

Rev. Write already told you the truth. Obama is a politician and will say anything to get elected. Like the Peronist's chanting for Evita, his supporters have bought into his rhetoric hook, line and sinker. Trying to debate the facts with them is useless. Obama has no policy or any stance on anything that can't be sacrificed to win. His resume is a 3x5 card of un-achievements. Beware the smooth talking con man. The Presidency is no place for on-the-job training. The last 8 years have proven that.

"Yes, we Can"...isn't this what the kids show Bob the Builder says? Oh geez, a kids show explains alot----only children would be naive enough to believe the lying crook Obama.

CHANGE & CHANGE & CHANGE everyday = Mr. Obama. Who knows what's next?
McCain-08

never need to worry about mccain flipflop---he simply cannot remember from day to day--hi comment about sudan---aid telling him john--john you are naming wrong country---way to pick a winner guys---even uneducated repubs are getting wise to the old goat.

after 8 years of some of the worst government in history----you promote mcsame------and plan to say it is obamas fault--what a bunch of losers----think of your mcbush when you stand in unemployment line

NOBAMA CAN NOT UNIFY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY! GET READY, SAY, "WELCOME, PRESIDENT JOHN MCCAIN!"

Where are Pelosi, Dean, Kerry, Kennedy, the DUMB superdelegates and the DNC members now??

What a joke they have made by forcefully ousting Clinton and shoving this Obama Joker on the voters??

If Pelosi and Dean step down tomorrow, and Kerry loses his Senate seat soon, we certainly will vote for Obama.

Otherwise, forget.

McCain is going to be our President in 2009.

Together we can change the world with three simple words:

YES WE CAN!

Obama is a flip/flopper........on
most of the issues.....
Obama is a left wing liberal.....
Did any of you know about the
August suprise??????

With McCain, we can stay with the tired ways of the past;

Or with Obama, we can embrace the future.

Together, we can make a difference. Together we can change the world.

OBAMA! YES WE CAN!

How's this for slogans:

"No Thanks....you can Keep the Change"

Empty rhetoric -- empty suits -- Obama is O'Bush III.

jack you are a little confused----mccain is a empty hat--and a democrat cannot ever be a repub.the empty suit thing is old crap---boot the coot

Sounds like he confused himself.
The problem are which one his supporters to believe in and to hold on his promises.

Obama is Bush III?

I love when someone uses a line like this to insinuate that the best way to oust the Republican establishment is to elect a Republican.

For me, the Republicans have had their turn. Obama's got a lot of problems but I'll choose the devil I don't know over the devil I do know.

doc
i see you are on your game sharp as ever---thanks
boot the coot

what really rattled me was when he was in canada telling us how prosperous our country is due to nafta--- and then shows up in columbia pushing the same crap----he has no conception of reality.

It is not surprising that Obama has "refined" yet another position on the issues. Those who will not vote for Obama have been warned repeatedly that they will lose their reproductive rights. Everyone wants to decide for someone else. No female should be forced to bear a child of rape or incest. Those are givens in my book. Mental illness does not apply in those cases? What a political football! Even Obama cannot make up his mind. Pandering to get those votes again? Don't worry, by the time November gets here, he will "refine" his position again. Anything to get the votes. That is change we can believe in.

patriot
you can tell that one to the person who breaks into my home---i may have a few stickers around==you put in front window of your home-----states that you do not have and will not have a weapon in your home or on your person in any circumstance----you also forget that this right also includes protection from an opressive government---worder what they meant with that.

i cannot believe that here on the fourth of july---someone wants to mess with the constitution.

thanks----abc

Is Obama suffering from the heat? This is not the buy we nominated.

He can make love to the religious right if he wants, but he loses my support.

He can soften his position on Iraq, but he loses my support.

What next? Will he proclaim the worthwhile function of lobbyists and special interest groups?

I donated twice to the campaign of the old Obama. That would make me a strong supporter. Well, this strong supporter plans to stay home next November.

Obama is a true man of changing his mind every second is Obama. Obama a man of change...what a joke this man is. Democrat is going to be so sorry when he get into office.

Patriot

The National Guard, funded by the federal government, occupying property leased to the federal government, using weapons owned by the federal government, carrying out missions for the federal government is a “state militia”? Please explain.

Senator Obama is playing standard election year politics. “Tell them what they want to hear and hope they won’t remember what you did last year and they won’t remember your promises when you break them next year.” Obama has always supported the DC gun ban as well as the ban in Chicago. He now says he knew they were unconstitutional. Then why did he support them? Apparently the Constitution doesn’t mean much to him.

Polls show that 73% of American citizens favor private ownership of handguns but Obama opposes it. Apparently the ‘majority rules’ theory of Democracy doesn’t mean much to him either, unless of course he’s running for president. The NRA vote counts.

Only a few weeks ago Obama was the strongest pro-choice supporter in the country. Now courting the evangelical vote he’s backing away from that stance.

McCain, not to be outdone, is making gestures to the ‘pro-choice’ people.

Obama is even moving away from the “time table” withdraw from Iraq.

The fun never ends.

This is so not funny. Hillary supporters have been accused of having the blood of our military on our hands and of giving up our reproductive rights when McCain gets Roe v Wade overturned if we vote for him. The Obama supporters can't spin this. Since Hillary was forced to drop out, Obama has gone back on every issue of "Change" that he's built his entire campaign on. For all the people who called Hillary Clinton a liar-you need to admit the truth about Obama.

I would rather vote for a dog on street than this Obama guy. This man is a joke. He actually can hardly be called a man.

"Change You Can Believe In"

We are starting to see how Obama uses change. He keeps changing his positions and his policies, whenever he feels it is politically expedient.

Will the real Obama please stand up!

He was to far to the left, then he was in the center, then he sounded just like President Bush and now he is reminiscent of Judges Scalia and Thomas, tomorrow he will be back to lifting H.R. Clinton's ideas again.

If Obama keeps performing his Changes You Can Believe, our only HOPE is that he will not short CHANGE us.

Where is Obama really standing up? He can not become overnight conservative just to get the votes he needs this fall. A man without backbone is like a swinging plant, it goes where the wind goes. Is he the right president for this country? One one think about this man,, no principles, dangerous as an exploding bomb.

Enough already with the character assassination and the "flip-flop" accusations; both McCain and Obama are human beings and both are guilty this year of changing their minds. But they're both doing exactly what they need to be doing in order to win. McCain has moved to the right to cement support from the Republican Party's core of conservative voters, and Obama is moving to the center to woo independents and disaffected neo-cons. To ensure victory, he needs turn some coin-flip states blue that went red in the last election. But, if you think this country is headed in the wrong direction, well -- John McCain as President, I don't think, will change things very much.

The best & most troublesome comment I've heard lately is his reason for not wanting to be involved in Iraq from the very beginning. His own words (I SAW his lips move) -- he didn't believe Saddam Husseim was an imminent danger to America. Now, am I just like way way behind here or what? That's sounds friggin crazy to me. Maybe I'm flipped out over a worn out issue, but it deeply concerns me that ANYONE in politics would think that Hussein is/wasn't an emminent threat to us -- much less the man running for president.

You know, now that I think about it, if you listen closely, Barack lets a little of socialist whitewash slip through everything else he says, which is about as clear & clean & pure as mud.

As idealistic as all the Obama supporters were just a month ago about how Obama was the change to politics of old, it's embarrassing to watch now as Obama performs like other unscrupulous politicians now. Where did your morals for a better America go? Why no outrage? I think one could honestly conclude that just like Obama, there were no morals involved in his campaign and you like him are only in it for your side to win versus the other side, like a board game. Country before party should be what we were after all along and Hillary offered that in so many more ways than Obama or McCain. NAFTA, FISA, DC Gun ban, Iraq, the list goes on for promises made this year (not 2002) and the supporters have the gall to condone this and make excuses for your candidate. He lied, not flipped and will do it again. Get upset for God sake, it's you he's throwing under the bus now and you're not even going with a fight.

Obama is a cool guy, but as a politician he tries to have it both ways, or three and four ways. He's the worst kind of panderer I've seen.

Clinton beats Obama on character, merits and issues. Just because he tosses his platform away to suit the general election, doesn't make it right. Only thing left in the Obama message is the "change" word, whose meaning only seem to be "not-Clinton". The rest of Obama is same old politics. Dems blew it on Obama: Obama wins or loses, I don't care. 352 superdelegates and Al Gore are wrong.

Jen,
It looks like you and Senate Lieberman and his followers can choose "Right Wing Conservative" ideas, when it is convenient to you and your cause - taking cheep shots at Obama, is taking cheep shots at the Democrats. The 2nd Amendment is American as "Apple Pie," no one will dear challenge it. Why will Obama? Look for something that can stick to the man. Cheap shot! Focus at issues! Sincerely, Lake Hart, a Native American Writer.

Obama blows in the wind. He blows whichever way he thinks will get him elected. Obama has nothing but contempt for people and the promises he makes them. Obama cannot be trusted. This country needs a man of courage, principles, authenticity for president, and that man is not Obama.