Legalities

What do we do if no other country will take these men?

disgustedformerdemocrat: to answer, if their own country won't take them, I say move them all nextstore to the judge who ordered their release.

Remember Daniel Pearl? Send them to Pakistan.

Obama got what he wanted. Club Gitmo will be history soon. Terrorists will roam the streets again. Thank you Democrats!

Obama's wish, this decision is nothing to do with Obama. Last time I looked Bush was still president and the judge is just applying the law that applies under the Bush administration.

old news? pray the action taken at once to release the five; what implications does the reporter interpret to be forthcoming as important consequences? international dialogue, high authority and definition of normal relations, per se: how effected?

"Obama's Wish"---the President-Elect doesn't want terrorists on the streets and you know this. he wants an end to infinite detainment of human beings without trial. not everone who was taken to Guantanamo Bay is guilty and they are that could have been proved in a court of law. some of these people have been there since 2001. almost 8 years and no legal action at all in their cases? concentration camps aren't cool.

Imagine being pick up and sent to that place with no TRIALS or anything and you never play apart in the fighting.

but lets play devils advocate . if someone INVADES America and we as citizens pick up arms and fight them...and they caught us; put us somewhere like Guantanamo, what should the charge be ?.. afterall we were only defending our country.

many times i wish many Americans look at this from the other side and i think a realty check will set in.

"one man's terrorist is another freedom fighter".

Bosnia has already agreed to take them. All the charges were unfounded. In other words- THEY ARE INNOCENT. They have not seen their wives or children in almost 8 years. Do you think these children will even know their fathers?

Hope we don't have to pay them or their lawyers.

Five suspects imprisoned for such a long time for nothing. Their lives ruined and their future tainted. This is not American justice it is incompetence and unfair human rights violation and those responsible should be brought to justice. It is time to gain the high moral ground again as soon as the gang that has ruled Washington for the past 8 years leaves town. I am sure the response of Cheney will be "SO"

LongT---it would have been much cheaper and far fairer to have them charged and tried in a court of law, not the kangaroo court that is Guatanamo Bay. i mean the Geneva Convention and Accords are international standards of how to treat people because it is how we would wish to be treated. we are, as you know, in violation of international law and the Geneva Conventions. this is a stain on our history. we are better that this. in two months this will be over.

Mark, these guys were from Algeria, not Afghanistan or Iraq...they were not "defending their country"...they were caught attempting to enter the combat theater and suspected of siding against US forces there...with that siad, the judge applied the rule of law, and so it stands...the men will be released...I don't think it's terrible or the end of the world, etc...btw, are you aware of the US military's presence in the African Sahel? The US is training armies of nations from Niger to Mali to counter islamist movements like those in Algeria...movements that these guys were likely a part of...

> This is not American justice, it is incompetence and unfair human rights violation and those responsible should be brought to justice.

LongT: You are 100% correct. The big question: Why are radical right-wingers so quick to abandon the Constitution and all sense of human decency every time a national emergency arises? The answer is: it's the easy path for low-IQ incompetents. And the chief of all these is Cheney. God save us from the destruction of our country by the right-wing.

You people have human rights concerns? Do you think these people were picked up innocently shopping at the market? Let them move near you kool-aid drinkers. The people that are there are people who killed our soldiers and others. I say let them stay in Cuba. Open the doors and let them out there. What a travesty. I'm sure the ACLU will set them up in a nice condo somewhere so they can begin plotting against us on our own land.

Spann was killed during a riot at the Qala-i-Jangi compound in Mazari Sharif in northern Afghanistan according to CNN reporter Robert Young Pelton.[2] In the same day, he and another officer at General Dostum's military garrison named Qali Jangi near Mazari Sharif questioned John Walker Lindh. As shown on British Television (Channel 4 news), Spann asks "are you a member of the IRA?" This question was asked because Lindh was told to claim he was Irish to "avoid problems." Officials recovered his body after Afghan Northern Alliance troops backed by U.S. air strikes and UK Special Boat Service and US Army Special Forces crushed the uprising. Spann had been shot in the back of the head twice.

Spann fought first with his AK-47 until it ran out of ammo, then drew his pistol and used it until it too was out of ammo, then engaged the enemy in hand to hand combat; because of the greater numbers, the insurgents eventually overtook him. Because of his actions, numerous others who were nearby were able to escape to safety.[3]

I would bet none of you whiners even remember his name.

These are some of the animals that are in Guantanamo, I hope they apply for asylum here in the states and they are granted it, because we are soooo evil. Then I hope they move next door to you all that think they are soooo innocent. They are all very healthy now, medical care, good nutrition, denatl care, etc. all supplied by the eeeevil USA. I'm betting that 8 yrs. at Guantanamo is a lot better than the fate that met Daniel Pearl and Nick Berg.

Oh and by the way, there are lots of kids here who will NEVER know their parents because the DEAD! Don't you remember when they were INCINERATED on live t.v.?

mjmflowergirl, you are grossly misinformed -- the people in Gitmo are not only those who killed our soldiers. If that were true it would be far less of a travesty. Kool-aid drinkers? You should wake up to reality: the world is not a simplistic good/evil, right/wrong place that you envision. When Bush, Cheney & Co decided to suspend the Constitution and rape the human rights of thousands, it was not simply a wrong against those people. The huge wrong was the irreparable damage they did to America and everything we stand for, trashing our goodwill around the world, and destroying our reputation as the beacon of justice and human decency.

For all you guys thinking that this is a democratic or obama consirpicy should probably know that this is a very conservative judge appointed by the super liberal the current president George W. Bush!

I'm surprised and ashamed at the number of people here who have already tried and convicted these men. One wonders how many innocent people the government would have to incarcerate before the remainder see THEMSELVES at risk of permanent detention without charge, appeal or trial.

Hey Bill,

These probably are terrosists and they make strike again. But only GITMO and the toturing done by BUSH/CHENEY is to blame for their freedom. No one wanted to release these guys but a judge has to through out any evidence gained through torture. ITS THE LAW!!

COWARDLY LEFTIST RESPONCES MAKE ME SICK
LUCKY THIS WILL BE A ONE TERM AND VERY DISSAPOINTING PRESIDENCY

dawglover, a very impassioned speech, but oh so overly simplistic. You seem to take the common right-wing view picked up from heroic U.S. war movies that Americans can do no wrong and Muslims are automatically terrorists. Then you imply that since terrorists beheaded some of our people we are justified in sinking to their level -- to be equally savage and uncivilized. So totally absurd & illogical! Whiners? Do you think anyone who believes in the authority of the Constitution and international law is a whiner?

BARNEY FRANK NANCY PELOSI CHRISS DODD WAXMAN SHUEMER YOU GUYS CAN REALLY PICK THEM GOD HELP US

HEY RICK, IF YOU WANT TO DROP NAMES? HERE ARE TWO THAT TRUMP YOUR WHOLE LIST -- BUSH, CHENEY. WAKE UP, MAN!

SUPRISE YOU KNEW WHO I WAS TALKING ABOUT THEY SHOULD GET THE SAME RIGHTS WE GOT ON 911

The terrorists at Gitmo should be released immediately. Once freed, they will need money to buy speedboats and RPGs to take command of their choice of ships.

Randor, those poor innocents in Gitmo would slit your throat so fast you wouldn't have time to beg for mercy. Thats reality. You want to talk simplistic, how about if we all just be nice to one another and then all the bad people will quit being mean because the big ole bully the USA will be nicer to them. Then we will try to find out the root cause of why they are soooo angry. We can give them some money, and a better house, and make them eat organic food and they will all be nicer.

dawglover, I've heard this kind of disconnected rant from the right-wing for years, but it makes no sense. Do you really think the U.S. can thumb its nose at the world and play the Lone Ranger against the rest of the planet? It makes a great movie plot but in the real world it's a fairy tale. And this idea that we can nuke the entire Middle East is the epitome of hill-billy ignorance. I spent over 20 yrs overseas working for DOD gathering intel on the bad guys for our War-fighters. And I can tell you our War-fighters are the best that's ever been -- problem is their civilian bosses are sorely incompetent. They seem to have acquired their skills and knowledge of foreign policy issues at the movies.

Hey dawglover, your wild-west cowboy style shooting-from-the-hip approach to all the world's problems seems to spill over into the sweeping generalizations that only weaken your argument.

It is very hard for many Americans to divorce themselves from the ever-so-popular plots of the heroic American war movies, and I truly understand that because I love my country as much as anyone (I volunteered for Vietnam in 1963).

But the reality is: in Vietnam and ever since, we've been faced with learning how to fight terrorist/guerrilla wars, and it the toughest challenge we have ever faced in our history. If we ever expect to succeed in that effort (and we're not doing so well right now) it will not be by building/dropping more and bigger bombs. It will only be the result of a cool calculated strategy with more and more intensive training. (Sorry, no cowboys need apply.) And one crucial element of our overall defense strategy must be maximum cooperation and coordination with our friends around the world. No matter how unromantic it may seem to you, we have to leave the Lone Ranger idea for the comic books. Our nation's security and yes our very future depends on optimum diplomacy and optimum cooperation with our allies. Ask any defense expert -- any other way is a fairy tale, my friend.

I can see the point of some that these people may be dangerous. However we cant simpley lock them up and throw away the key as we have done. Torcher them into submision and call it detention. If we do that then everything we have fought and bled and died for is over and they have won.

Randor, I believe that the constitution you refer to is the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES! It does not apply to people of other countries nor do their constitutions apply to us. That is why our enemies get away with slaughtering Americans in public. You bleeding hearts need to try living in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, or Iraq for a while. You would be thrown in jail in those countries just for carrying a Christian bible down the street. Oh, and you would not be read any Miranda rights! You would not be allowed to remain silent either, as they have ways of making you 'confess' your crimes. All of you bleeding hearts need to wake up and smell the coffee!

Hey irnotu, I've been called a kool-aid drinker, and a bleeding heart and worse for standing up for the principles my country was founded on, so I don't mind. But it is rather ludicrous for a rad-con to lecture me on what I ought to do. Where were you in 1961-1962? I was stationed in Peshawar, Pakistan. So I probably know a bit more about the place than you do. I am impressed, however, that you know who the U.S. Constitution applies to. Surprising that you could learn such things watching football and heroic war movies.

With all of the liberals in this country, it won't be long until we will have no defense against those that wish us harm.

I for one, do not wish to have bombs going off at the supermarket, schools, libraries, etc. We must defend ourselves and quit worrying about what is "politically correct".

Get a backbone, America! If someone declares that their goal is our destruction and takes action to meet that goal, then pick up arms and either contain or eliminate that person, government or religion.

We as a country, can no longer apologize for taking war to those who make war upon us. If our government chooses to continue to apologize for doing so, we will become the next conquered country in the world. The question will be, what language will our children have to learn?