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"You'd have to be a very bloodthirsty and inhuman person to hatch such a plot," Hoagland, a warm and open woman, told ABC News.
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Many of these people are fed enough propaganda to believe that the US has done so much damage to their part of the world that we deserve such actions. I'm amazed that when we go into countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, there is virtually no coordinated attempt to win the hearts and minds of the people except through buying their allegiance with money - which is how the "Awakening" in Iraq is staying intact: the US pays the Sunni sheiks $300 per month for each man they supply.

American soldiers also get paid......so, what's your point?

I wish we knew more about what happened on that plane...

and I wish all the Phelps of the world could sit in a public viewing and watch what Mark Bingham did...

and say that Mark Bingham for having been born gay was an abomination.

I wish that all those people who hurl epithets...who say homosexuals are revolting...and some sort of freaks against nature...and less than noble...
and that they deserve less rights or less right to the most important experience in this world... to love someone...

I wish those people could try and live up to the level of nobility that Mark Bingham did on that infamous day in September.

If I tortured and waterboarded you, you'd admit you were the easter bunny! For all we know they dragged this guy off the street. If you are a real killer like oh, bin Laden somehow you just always semm to evade capture. Hmmn... interesting. Afterall how can we justify this bogus war and wasteful spending if that boogeyman was ahem, caught? That Obama is more than willing to continue this charade says all you need to know about the lack of "Change" that is coming. Meet the new boss, SAME as the old boss!

I wish those people could try and live up to the level of nobility AND LOVE that Mark Bingham did on that infamous day in September.

"But she also said she wishes KSM and the other terrorists could see more of the victims' families, "and to look into the faces of all the thousands of people whose lives they changed so bitterly that day.""
My opinion is that all these sad and angry faces will only bring the terrorists joy. They lived among us, ate with us, played with us, learned with us... and still had the conviction to follow through with their hellish plan. So looking into the faces of the victims families can only give them a satisfaction they do not deserve.

"I'm amazed that when we go into countries like Iraq and Afghanistan, there is virtually no coordinated attempt to win the hearts and minds of the people except through buying their allegiance with money..."

I guess if you only get your news from places like ABC News, the New York Times, and CNN, you might come away with that impression. Our armed forces do a lot on the ground to help protect people in Iraq and Afghanistan and make their lives better. However, 'feel good' stories about the military don't seem to make for good copy, I guess.

I'm with stupid...

you obviously aren't getting any news...the news out of afghanistan is very very bad.

We lost that fight...and so did Nato when GW and his team of repubs...scared us into Iraq.

The ball was dropped on the place which harbored the men who attacked us...

all out of some weird suspicious and secretive plan that we had to go into Iraq... and we could take our forces, our focus and other issues stupidly away from Afghanistan.

If you are getting good news stories about how we are looked upon in Afghanistan and how we are viewed because of those above mistakes...

you must only be watching Fox

(you know the PR agency founded by literal Republican Hawk Operatives...literally...10 years ago...and look what watching them has gotten us...the last 8 years been good for you or the world...or our image...not)

The 9/11 attackers lived among us for 2 years, some of them anyway. They attended schools here, went to shopping malls, bars, strip clubs, etc. In short, they experienced quite a bit of what this land of plenty has to offer. But that did not "win their hearts and minds"... they still carried out their mission. Because of this, it's my firm belief that reconciliation with these savages is not possible. Standard methods of law enforcement will not deter them.

Let all these fanatics burn. The world is better off without them.

How do we honor the fallen by failing to find those actually responsible? Mark Bingham did not call his mother from his personal cell phone on flight 93, nor did anyone else-- it was technologically impossible in 2001, as has been proven repeatedly. If the official story is false, what is the truth? To date, we still don't know. Honor the fallen by demanding a new 9/11 investigation.

Based on what the Bush administration has done since 9/11, it's forced me to reexamine the evidence. It is fascinating for instance, that the pilot of Flight 77 which crashed into the Pentagon, Charles Burlingame, had as a member of the Naval Reserves, worked in the Pentagon a year before on a simulation of a commercial airliner crashing into the Pentagon. We really need to take a hard look at what took place that day.

Ah, Truthers...

If I tortured and waterboarded you, you'd admit you were the easter bunny! For all we know they dragged this guy off the street. If you are a real killer like oh, bin Laden somehow you just always semm to evade capture. Hmmn... interesting. Afterall how can we justify this bogus war and wasteful spending if that boogeyman was ahem, caught? That Obama is more than willing to continue this charade says all you need to know about the lack of "Change" that is coming. Meet the new boss, SAME as the old boss!

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WOW, what an incredibly nieve person you are. In case you had not noticed, Americans have been getting killed by terrorists overseas for years.

A Presbyterian minister (Benjamin Weir) was kidnapped in May 1984 by three armed men while strolling with his wife. Weir may have thought he was safe from harm from Muslims because he lived in Shiite West Beirut working "closely with various Muslim-oriented charity and relief groups," and had lived in Lebanon since 1958. Two days after his abduction, a telephone message claimed: "Islamic Jihad organization claims it is responsible for the abduction ... in order to renew our acceptance of Reagan's challenge [to fight "state terrorism"] and to confirm our commitment of the statement ... that we will not leave any American on Lebanese soil."

Go back to the Achille Lauro in 1985, American Leon Klinghoffer was killed by the Palestine Liberation Front for being Jewish.

William R. Higgins was captured and taken hostage while serving on a United Nations (UN) peacekeeping mission in southern Lebanon. A year and a half after his capture, a videotape was released by his captors showing his body hanging by the neck. on December 23, 1991, his body was recovered from a Beirut street where it had been dumped.

These are just a few of many examples of people taken or killed because they were American.

Right now, None of us has ANY Idea how many lives have been saved by the info taken from those at Gitmo. I hope someday we will.

Lets say the Government releases all the information gathered from those at Gitmo. Lets say you findout there was a terrorist cell in your town, or that your towns schools were going to be part of a coordinated suicide bomber attack. Think maybe you might have a slightly different view of this? You had better think long and hard about that before you decide to stand on a soap box and preach like that. Maybe you should go and talk to people who had loved ones on those planes on 9/11 or in the buildings that were hit.

These kinds of acts are not going to end anytime soon, Obama can close Gitmo and do whatever he wants. We are still going to be in Afganistan & Iraq for quite a long time. Obviously now some of these terrorist organizations are providing training inside Pakistan now too. We will continue to work with other countries to hunt terrorists as well. What exactly do you propose to with these people after we catch them? Do you want them held in your town? If convicted, do you want them held in a prison close to your home?

If you have such distain for those who protect this country and give you the ability to voice your opinion openly, then maybe you should try living in Israel or going to Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, etc as a volunteer to help. Then one day when your the one kidnapped, and sitting in front of a camera and looking at being beheaded, perhaps your attitude would change!

This is a real WAR. NO ONE can tell you or me when it is going to end, because your not fighting a nation or a state or anything that is really that definable. What is very definable is that these oraganzations are willing to use suicide attacks to kill us!

If waterboarding a terrorist leads to uncovering a plot to blow up a school where your kids go everyday, would you be crying for their rights then?

The lessons of the past have obviously not taken hold in your head. You CANNOT win a war, when you play by one set of rules and your enemy plays with NO rules.

If your so jacked up on treating these people like they are preaching at your local church, perhaps when they get released, you can rent out rooms in your house to them!

Why would he address his mother by his full name? Then ask if she believes him?

Hatred = Strife = Murder.

Love = Kindness = Everlasting Life.

If we all could just forebear one another in humilily and love the world would be such a brighter place. Of course this will never happen, although it gives hope to imagine I suppose, as Lennon sang. The cold hard truth is that there is evil in this world that we must face with a courage that we can't find within ourselves alone.

Homosexuality may be an abomination to God but I'll not dare look down on any such as these for but for grace I might also be as such.

My point which echoes another:
Mark Bingham's character was defined that day. Anyone who goes to detract from that should as my friend Garfield says, "should be drug out into the street and shot". But then that would detract from the message of hope and love wouldn't it....

Based on what the Bush administration has done since 9/11, it's forced me to reexamine the evidence. It is fascinating for instance, that the pilot of Flight 77 which crashed into the Pentagon, Charles Burlingame, had as a member of the Naval Reserves, worked in the Pentagon a year before on a simulation of a commercial airliner crashing into the Pentagon. We really need to take a hard look at what took place that day.
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hopesprings52,

What exactly are you trying to say?

Before we know it, you fools will have Bush on the grassy knoll in Dallas in Nov. 1963.

By the way, tothe person who "claims" you can't make a ceel phone call from a plane in 2001?....exactly what "evidence" of that do you have?

There are a lot of incredible improbabilities, strange coincidences and occurrences that stun the experts which occurred on 9/11. A closer examination needs to be done.

According to one technological journal: "given the prevailing technology in September 2001, it was extremely difficult, if not impossible, to place a wireless cell call from an aircraft traveling at high speed above 8000 feet:

"Wireless communications networks weren't designed for ground-to-air communication. Cellular experts privately admit that they're surprised the calls were able to be placed from the hijacked planes, and that they lasted as long as they did. They speculate that the only reason that the calls went through in the first place is that the aircraft were flying so close to the ground

Expert opinion within the wireless telecom industry casts serious doubt on "the findings" of the 9/11 Commission. According to Alexa Graf, a spokesman of AT&T, commenting in the immediate wake of the 9/11 attacks:

"it was almost a fluke that the [9/11] calls reached their destinations... From high altitudes, the call quality is not very good, and most callers will experience drops. Although calls are not reliable, callers can pick up and hold calls for a little while below a certain altitude"

"it was technologically impossible in 2001, as has been proven repeatedly."

Proven by whom and how? Let's see your evidence.

I despise George Bush as much as the next guy, but these conspiracy theories are flat-out offensive. And if that plane *was* shot down, I understand why.

hopesprings, there is nothing remotely close to evidence that cell phone calls could not be made from an airplane in 2001 in your post.

Good for Alice to go to Gitmo an take stock in the man who claims to have orchestrated her son's death. I hope we have the right guys and the best prosecutors. She deserves it.