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If McCain Doesn’t Attack . . .
October 15, 2008 5:42 PM
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- The setting tonight makes attacks, shall we say, uncomfortable. It will be Barack Obama and John McCain seated at a table, in close quarters, moderator Bob Schieffer across from them.
The thinking here, in Republican and Democratic circles, is that McCain is coming prepared with something dramatic. Maybe a policy proposal, like he brought out at the last debate, maybe an announcement of a Cabinet official -- or maybe, just perhaps, a real attack.
Keep in mind that if McCain doesn’t come out swinging tonight, he will disappoint many of his supporters -- up to and including his running mate.
If McCain doesn’t come out swinging -- raising, at the very least Bill Ayers -- he will have to be prepared for an evisceration in right-wink talk radio and blogs.
Maybe he’s thinking about legacies that are broader than that -- but as he thinks strategically about tonight and beyond, this has to be a consideration.
What do you expect out of McCain tonight?
-- Rick Klein
October 15, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (43)
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He's caught between a rock and a hard place. If I were him, I'd try to come out of this with some integrity and tell those fringe lunatics to bite my ass.
Posted by: hang | Oct 15, 2008 5:52:15 PM
Stroke out.
Posted by: Joe | Oct 15, 2008 5:57:01 PM
"If McCain Doesn’t Attack . . ." then he has chance. Polls have shown the recent attack by he and Palin onto Obama has drove Obama's numbers up. It's a lose lose situation for McCain. He attack... he losed undecided. He doesn't attack the base maddens.
Posted by: Vanessa | Oct 15, 2008 5:57:53 PM
McCain can't win the presidential election, but if he takes the high road tonight he could:
1) Possibly stop a landslide takeover of the senate and house by democrats
2) Exit this election without leaving a legacy of having done nothing but "attack"
Tonight is McCain's chance to take the high road and make a graceful exit... or an ugly one.
Posted by: clifton | Oct 15, 2008 6:05:38 PM
There is not argument that His Nothingness is articulate and well-spoken and a term got Biden in trouble which tanked his candidacy on the day he started. Zero-bama's speeches can make you feeling really good.
At one point, George W. Bush was thought be be likable, with whom you'd rather have a beer with.
I do not know, but the are both unfit for this job - one thing they do have in common.
Zero is Zero-bama's character. There has not been a single thing that he has done or has taken a responsibility in his life that you can say that has helped others, rather than benefiting himself.
He is a race-baiter. He equates the Clinton administration the same as that of Bush's. He sold his soul by trashing his fellow democrats, the only successful president from his party in the past 60 years, simply it would benefit him by a few deceived votes. He has no principles. He is only into money giveaways during the primaries and the general election. He has lied to his supporters, first telling them he would vote against and filabuster the bill to allow Bush to spy on the citizens during the primaries to pander moveon.com, but only changed his mind to vote for it, taking our constitutional right of privacy away.
If none of these matter to you, good luck and good night.
Posted by: d0 | Oct 15, 2008 6:06:16 PM
McCain will be in Osama Obamas face
tonight. Obama has to pause everytime
before he gives an answere, because he
he gets confused.
I'll tell ya drugs will do that to ya.
If some of the people are stupid enough
to vote for him, God help us all......
I'll go and live in Europe !!!!!!!!
McCain all the way.
Posted by: Joey | Oct 15, 2008 6:06:34 PM
McCain will have a big announcement tonight! It will be a game changer!
Posted by: Cindy | Oct 15, 2008 6:11:14 PM
Maybe Obama will bring his documentation with him tonight to shut down the Berg lawsuit and put this simple, straightfoward question of his eligibility to rest once and for all. Why not just go get the docs from your safety deposit box and prove you are a natural born citizen instead of paying lawyers money to file a Motion to Dismiss? That doesn't make sense unless he has something to hide. I'm sure the DNC had his birth certificate authenticated BEFORE putting him on the ballot right???
Posted by: fairelection2008 | Oct 15, 2008 6:14:22 PM
With a 700 point drop in the DOW that is directly related to voters' pocketbooks (especially disposable income) spending time attacking Obama will most certainly backfire among the target audience.
If McCain can't count on right wing Republicans to show up no matter what, then he won't even get 40% of the vote on election day, in which case he might as well go home. If he really believes he has a chance to win, then his goal is a nationally televised debate is to go after indies and moderates.
McCain might pay some lip service to the Ayers issue, but it just isn't good politics to go after Obama and expect that he's not going to hit back effectively and push ahead with his own proposals.
Obama would win the debate decisively if McCain took such a risk. What McCain needs is not a knockout but a credible draw. Then he can get back on the trail and make the arguments he needs to keep the base energized. There are few if any knock outs in debates. So far, McCain and Palin haven't been speaking to the issues that Americans care about. That's because the right wing base lives in alternate universe where they're always mad, but "it's not about the economy". (The angry guy from the Wisconsin town hall).
Posted by: khyber Jones | Oct 15, 2008 6:14:37 PM
McCain will not be taking nay points from the bias media.
Posted by: debbie | Oct 15, 2008 6:15:13 PM
Maybe Mickey Mouse could replace Obama on stage. I think Mickey would give better answers and could tell the truth. Let's hope Michelle doesn't widen out in the crowd so we have to see her this evening.
Posted by: tom | Oct 15, 2008 6:19:08 PM
I am surprised with his negative comments about age and experience that BHO allowed Bob Schrieffer to moderate the debate. This man is a great journalist with a broad base of experience.
Posted by: William | Oct 15, 2008 6:20:57 PM
NO SUCH THING AS A "NOBLE LOSER"
CRITICS WANT TO DISARM MCCAIN
THEY DONT WANT HIM TO ATTACK OBAMA ON AYERS , WRIGHT
THAEY WQANBT HIM TO DROP PALIN
THOSE ARE HIS 2 WEAPONS TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY
Posted by: TJ, THE CLINTONITE | Oct 15, 2008 6:21:14 PM
The only announcement that McCain could make tonight that would be a game changer is his concession speech.
Posted by: Jeff | Oct 15, 2008 6:21:18 PM
Stop censoring ABCNews!! The people want an answer to Berg v. Obama. Produce your documents Obama and prove your elibility instead of hiding behind lawyers. Go to the safe deposit box like the rest of us and get the documents. Why won't Obama answer a simple and straightfoward question regarding his elibility instead of filing a Motion to Dismiss? Why would you pay lawyers if you had the docs???
Posted by: fairelection2008 | Oct 15, 2008 6:21:20 PM
Joey: "McCain will be in Osama Obamas face tonight. Obama has to pause everytime before he gives an answere, because he he gets confused.
I'll tell ya drugs will do that to ya.
If some of the people are stupid enough
to vote for him, God help us all......
I'll go and live in Europe !!!!!!!!
McCain all the way."
Joey, I hope you do go to Europe. Maybe you'll see how other countries are run and see how they can be run well with the right government programs, etc. And you'll see what real leadership of a country looks like, nothing like McCain. Have fun over there! :)
Posted by: lkinopfl | Oct 15, 2008 6:25:46 PM
Its a shame that to rally the republican base, the independents and moderates that McCain need to win are alienated.
Posted by: hang | Oct 15, 2008 6:28:24 PM
Obama, just don't let him ruffle your feathers. He's SO not worth it!!
Posted by: lkinopfl | Oct 15, 2008 6:30:17 PM
He should be classy, forthright, and stay totally AWAY from negative campaigning, i.e. Rev. Wright and Billy Ayres, etc. If he can come out swinging with his stand on the economy, joblessness, foreign policy, health care reform, etc. he will do well. I say stay true to yourself, John McCain, and don't give a flying doodie what right wing radio hosts, Sarah Palin, or the lunatic fringe has to say about how you conduct yourself tonight. Stick to the facts, be honorable. If you succumb to temptation to swing at Obama with personal attacks, you can hang it up and go back to Arizona!
Posted by: DLH | Oct 15, 2008 6:37:39 PM
All Mc Bush has left is dirty tatics.He has no clue as how to run this country and his running ,mate can hed back North..I hear he has taken on Hillary thoughts on the economy....Nothing out of his own little pee pickin mind....
Posted by: indp voter | Oct 15, 2008 6:38:44 PM
Obama is baiting him. "Say it to my face." McCain will sound like an angry old man in front of the entire nation. Knowing McCain, he will take the high road (hopefully).
Posted by: helloworld | Oct 15, 2008 6:43:41 PM
d0 while bush's and mccain's intelligence together doesnt add up to an average human, obama is clearly a much smarter man. Harvard law review president and great schools he went to and all by merit. the bush obama comparison is far off.
Posted by: nancy | Oct 15, 2008 6:46:04 PM
I'm been reading "A kind and Just Parent" by Bill Ayers. He is an excellent writer. Writes just like "Obama." Now I checked the Internet to see if anyone else thinks that Ayers has been writing Obama's books. See Jack Cashill's web page on the analysis.
Posted by: Colonel Reb | Oct 15, 2008 6:46:33 PM
McCain really painted himself into a corner here, as he's done throughout the campaign. (and this is supposed to show that he'd be an effective president?) He's sealing his own fate. (here's a clue: it's the opposite of winning...)
Posted by: dem in chicago | Oct 15, 2008 6:50:56 PM
"I am surprised with his negative comments about age and experience that BHO allowed Bob Schrieffer to moderate the debate. This man is a great journalist with a broad base of experience."
Barack doesn't control the debates! Unlike the GOP who fixed it so that Palin didn't have to actually debate Biden. She memorized her cutie pie quips, got that wink down pretty good and evaded the questions put to her so she could listen to herself talk. That was a joke!
Posted by: JDL | Oct 15, 2008 6:53:00 PM
McCain is gonna fall for the bait, and Obama is gonna trigger one of his temper tantrums hes is well known for. He has tried to keep it contained so far playing like Grampa Simpson, but tonight Obamas gonna make him blow up and lose it all. Tonight hes gonna show his true colors as McNasty, Attilla The Hun.
Posted by: JJ | Oct 15, 2008 6:54:33 PM
Joey, You will get your arse kicked in Europe. They hate us thanks to your President "W. The bad." But go ahead and start packing because we dont want you here.
Posted by: Jo | Oct 15, 2008 6:57:57 PM
It doesn't matter...It is now COLOR before COUNTRY.
Posted by: Mike | Oct 15, 2008 7:00:35 PM
McCain cant win, but Obama could lose it.
Posted by: Leroy Gibbs | Oct 15, 2008 7:06:56 PM
My money is on McCain not saying anything about Ayers and the like, unless the moderator forces it. Why? Because for all the posturing, McCain is not stupid, and it would be stupid to do this.
And it doesn't serve Obama in any way to bring it up - he's ahead in the polls. The duller and less consequential this debate is, the better for Obama.
Posted by: Nia | Oct 15, 2008 7:08:46 PM
The bulk of the pro McCain comments on this thread are obviously based on hatred of Obama.
Ask any mental health care professional and you will be told that people fear what they hate.
I just wonder why these mouth breathing, living brain donor Bush idolaters are so AFRAID of Obama.
Posted by: Allen McDonald, El Galloviejo® | Oct 15, 2008 7:23:49 PM
I'm afaid John McCain will need an extra pair of depends tonight.
Posted by: paulus | Oct 15, 2008 7:25:17 PM
McCain trying to act like he's so big and bad keeps saying that he will bring up Ayers and others in the debate. I think he tries to sound tough, but honestly he's already had opportunities in past debates and he hasn't done it. He did it all behind Obama's back. Real tough McCain. Now you've said you "will kick his a*s!" and "will bring up Ayers" but we'll see, we'll see.
Posted by: lkinopfl | Oct 15, 2008 7:30:12 PM
I'd attack him, but it would be on taxes, not on Ayers.
Posted by: Obama is a comin for your money | Oct 15, 2008 7:44:39 PM
"McCain will have a big announcement tonight! It will be a game changer!"
Cindy
Yes! He will be announcing that his is quitting the election due to senility and conceeding to Obama. He will also be sending that ugly she dog back to Wallisa.
Posted by: Fred | Oct 15, 2008 7:48:47 PM
fairelection2008:
The real John McCain died in the Hanoi Hilton on July 27, 1968 shortly before the North Vietnamese produced the fake confession to war crimes which he supposedly signed. The current substitute McCain is a Russian spy.
Posted by: Tim | Oct 15, 2008 7:59:09 PM
I was truly undecided until the RNC convention. I liked McCain in 2000. I would have voted for him, (Didn't like Bush, had to vote for Gore)
But his changes in policy stances to suck up to conservatives, and especially his pick of Sarah Palin, made me realize the maverick McCain was killed by candidiate McCain.
If McCain announces that someone else is taking Palin's spot, he may actually have a chance. I really believe that.
But if he's keeping the parrot on the ticket?
Say hello to PRESIDENT OBAMA!
Posted by: Only One Chance | Oct 15, 2008 8:02:33 PM
It is so sad to see people so upset that a Black man is running for the
American presidency..you would think that after all of these years people would be equal and discrimnation would not exist..smh(shaking my head)..I can't wait until Obama kicks McCain's ass and wins this election..And 2 tht guy who wants to move to Europe..BYE!! and make sure you take all of ur racist McCain supporters with you..
Posted by: Tisha | Oct 15, 2008 8:03:33 PM
It is so sad to see people so upset that a Black man is running for the
American presidency..you would think that after all of these years people would be equal and discrimnation would not exist..smh(shaking my head)..I can't wait until Obama kicks McCain's ass and wins this election..And 2 tht guy who wants to move to Europe..BYE!! and make sure you take all of ur racist McCain supporters with you..
Posted by: Tisha | Oct 15, 2008 8:03:54 PM
Has anyone NOT heard of Ayres? Anyone who finds that meaningful already knows the story.
So what is going to be accomplished if he brings it up?
Factcheck states McCain and Palin have grossly misrepresented the relationship. But everyone can make their own judgments I guess.
But do conservatives really think this is a huge issue in the minds of most Americans right now?
Whatever, keep up with the negativity. It's been working great thus far!
Posted by: Don't Go Changin' | Oct 15, 2008 8:07:58 PM
HERE'S A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE???
Anyone else notice that gas prices ALWAYS drop the month before an election?
I mean it's like clockwork. It's happened for at least the last three elections.
I told my wife in April that gas prices would drop in October...and they have. Just like they did the month of the Congressional elections.
Don't worry though, they go back up within a month or two if history repeats itself.
Perhaps it's just my perception, but it seems the gas companies would like us to forget about high gas prices when we're voting. (And yes, I know there are other market forces involved. But it sure is a strange pattern)
Posted by: Election full of gas | Oct 15, 2008 8:16:56 PM
Great article on RCP... Here is an excerpt :
"What makes ACORN particularly embarrassing for Obama is that he used to be one of them. He served as general counsel for ACORN in Illinois, channeled millions to the organization from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (whose funds he distributed), and has lately spent $800,000 of his campaign money to subsidize the group's activities. For this emolument, ACORN has registered voters 15 times over, canvassed the graveyards for votes and prepared to commit electoral fraud on a massive scale."
Posted by: ml | Oct 15, 2008 9:57:21 PM
Enough with the plumber!!!! Joe must be in the upper class if he can buy a business.
Posted by: hlb | Oct 15, 2008 10:01:41 PM
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