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Well, your graphic and your comments show how ignorant you are about urban windmills. The windmills you put ontop of buildings look nothing like the giant ones you put in rural areas. They are compact and probably wouldn't even be visible on the street below. Structurly they would look more like a row of air contditoners on the roof and not the Statue of Liberty blocking piria you've depicted above.

I understand its funny to laugh and mock what you don't understand, but really, you're just mocking yourself.

Just wait, somewhere in the future when we have a gazzilion windmills providing power, there will be a nut somewhere in the world claiming his sailboat won't work because windmills have killed the wind in their part of the world or an environmentalist claiming that all those windmills are changing wind patterns throwing us into some earth shattering disaster.

Hey blakec. What article were you reading? I didn't see where it said ANYTHING you supposedly read. Paria, mocking? Don't see it.

BTW, be careful calling someone IGNORANT, especially when you can't even spell. What grade did you drop out of?

Since the first post was a little snarky, I guess it's okay to continue in that vein. Wind turbines may not be as easy to say or as poetic in name as windmills, but it is the correct term in the context of structures that produce electric power from wind.

Just give the DEMS some time. They will find a way of killing the idea. Kennedy nixed the idea of having a wind farm anywhere near his precious house. They are big of talking about what others should do but there is no way that want it to impact them.

LMAO at wind power.. Ted Kennedy and his ignorant nephew, RFK jr. STOPPED windmills 5 miles off the coast of cape Cod, NOT IN MY BACK YARD!!!! so quit being stupid, not even the Demencrats believe in them, they are owned by the oil companies same as the repukes

Uhhh, actually this is nothing short of brilliant. It takes advantage of the naturally air flow up the sides of the buildings. I read about these guys a few weeks ago on my blogs. Check it out.

http://www.avinc.com/ce_product_details.asp?Prodid=52

They won't be as "compact" as a rooftop AC unit. They have to get about 100 feet above the surroundings to get into "clean" air. Another option to place smaller one's down between the buildings and take advantage of the concrete canyon effect.

America should be placing windmills in the right-of-ways of our Interstate highways particularly the median strips to capitalize on the winds produced by passing automobiles. Has anyone ever stepped into any median without getting blown away???

They are deathtraps for birds. I guess there is a cost for all forms of energy but once thousands of chopped up birds start appearing on the NYC streets it will turn to outrage by some if not many. With energy there is no free lunch. I know a study was done at just one windmill farm in CA and it showed up to 5,000 birds and 4,000 bats were killed annually at this one farm alone. Just food for thought.

The CA study was done looking at older windmills that spin faster that the modern ones, because of their lower efficiency. More modern windmills don't spin as fast, birds aren't nearly that stupid and a report from May of last year said that birds have more to worry about from cats than windmills. There's also a lot a design changes taking place to deal with "city winds". Windmills in city may take the shape of DNA strands that can use wind from any direction. Not to get too hippie-dippie, but maybe if we start looking at these as functional art, people will stop with the eye-sore arguement. There's prettier than oil tankers in the harbor.

I meant "they're"

JB - the bird cost is an interesting concern, but last time I was in NYC, the only birds I saw were pigeons and especially filthy sparrows. I doubt they be putting the older kinds of mills responsible for so many bird deaths on rooftops, but if they did, I have a feeling most people in NYC wouldn't mind losing these particular critters.

you guys have to be kidding me. The Ted Kennedy libs wouldn't allow the windmills to go up in cape cod, the new york libs would never allow them on their buildings. lol what a joke, bloomberg you don't even come close to Guliani.

Everyone thinks of windmills as these great big fan blades. Why doesn’t someone look into putting a Squirrel cage round type fan out over the edge of a tall building and see if the air coming up the side would be sufficient to turn a generator. That could in turn help supply the power for that building. Would not even be noticed from the ground as all you would see is a roof line that sticks out a bit from the rest of the building

We could go green if we wanted and tell the oil companies NO more. They say the downfall of solar and wind power is no way to store it. I say Wrong. We could use the excess at night or during low usage hours to produce liquid hydrogen. Can you imagine if all the cabs in NY went to hydrogen…? You could breath again.

The bottom line is how are we going to run our air conditioners when it's 120F and our furnaces when it's -40F.

Oceans of oil and gas simply don't exist.

Aesthetics and pigeons are relevant considerations but they don't trump breathing.

I agree with Bob. And that isn't even taking into consideration transportation for over 200 million people; getting from point A to point B while trying to breathe!

On the other hand, cities do need to look pretty!

Speaking of looking pretty, have a read of this story on the site:

Corrosive Oceans: Carbon Emissions Threaten Ecosystem

Yah, our biggest worry is skylines...

In addition to solar and wind energy, why don't the public gyms hook up 12 volt alternators to their exercise bikes to charge batteries? The alternators could act as the resistance for the bikes while producing electricity and saving brakes which would have been used normally. The electricity produced by the alternators would charge battery banks that are hooked up to a grid-tie inverter, which slows down the gym's meter. If people are exercising on these bikes, might as well harness the energy in the flywheel instead of it becoming USELESS heat.

Barrack Obama’s biggest supporter won’t allow wind generators near his property. They want to spout ‘green’ technology and deny elitism. Only a fool would fall for it.

We won’t solve our energy problems with any single solution. It will take a variety of solutions and population reduction to make a substantial difference.