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liberman is gonna be PISSED!

This makes sense to anyone who has ever played these games or other games like them. Video Games don't kill people, messed up people with mental issues and poor upbringing kill people.

Studies have also shown that chimpanzees that eat the babies of other chimpanzees are much calmer afterwards.

It is bunch of naive people calling themselves scientists that come up with these kinds of conclusions.

What is wrong with your thinking process?

guys seriously wake up video games corupt everything in our society as a whole...i mean do you really think its a good idea to have games that involve killing priest and bashing babies heads in just to earn an extra point to buy a fake pair of sneakers for the character in the game...i swear games like grand turismo 4 need to be shelved...i dread the day april 29th comes around cuz i see a future of children trying to mimic a character from the game by going around a kicking puppies in the head...sick sick sick

Grand Turismo 4? Don't you mean Grand Theft Auto 4. Apparently Chip Douglas you have not played any games or know anything about them. It's great to comment on something you have never done or know anything about. You are an idiot to think games are causing violence.

Chip Douglas says - "killing priest and bashing babies heads" "i see a future of children trying to mimic a character from the game by going around a kicking puppies in the head" WHAT GAME ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? I've played both GTA4 and Grand Turismo and many many others and these are not in any games. Quit making stuff up!!!!

Seriously whats the difference a video game is a video game and maybe calling me an idiot is a result of you constantly being glued to a televion set playing The World of Warcraft...another game I highly attribute to the increasing number of crimes in urban America...I mean also look at the movies based off of video games such as Resident Evil and House of the Dead and Alone in the Dark which have made millions upon millions and all they teach is kill kill kill...it just makes me sick to think kids right now are probably playing a video game that allows them to eat the flesh of innocent people...instead of playing a game like Mortal Kombat go read a book...like a book about Jack Thomson who knows a thing or two about violent games!

I feel Mr. Chip Douglas makes a very valid point. Though the degradation of society can’t be blamed full on just video games, the spike in teen violence and violence worldwide has correlation to the increased violence in games. Especially where each new release is incessantly trying to one up the last with blood, brutality, and gore. What do you expect to happen when we feel our children the worst of human nature? When do they learn life has no rest button?

Yes, lets blame it on video games. Correlation with violence worldwide to video games? Are you kidding me? Who are these people worldwide? Hammas and Al Qaeda are playing video games these days? Quit being stupid!!!

this is exactly what im talking about...look how angry your getting and its all the rage you develop from playing games like Killer Instinct and Primal Rage and things of that nature...stop calling people idiots my son because that doesnt solve anything...the point im trying to get accross is the fact that games such as Manhunters and Manhunters 2 feed into the primal side of ourselves and thats dangerous! I mean I read that computer hackers actually hacked into the game on the Nintendo Gameboy or somethign and were able to reveal the more violent side of the game...if they were able to do that then my son could probably do that! whats this world coming to with these video games!

I am a happy gamer. I am an ADULT who enjoys these games and hasn't got a mean bone in her body. I applaud anyone who is concerned with keeping violent or sexualy themed games out of kids hands, but when it comes to adults - mind your own beeswax. I can make decisions for myself. I don't feel violent after gamming, and FYI: most gamers are very intelligent and do read books. Even books with big words.

The study says that gamers are relaxed after playing.

Rapists are also relaxed after raping.

What is wrong with you people?

Do not set foot on the path of the wicked or walk in the way of evil men.

Avoid it, do not travel on it; turn from it and go on your way.

For they cannot sleep till they do evil; they are robbed of slumber till they make someone fall. Proverbs 4:14-16 NIV

To PQQAm and Chip Douglas, are you both insane? Your rants get more and more ridiculous. I'm not going to say that Grand Theft Auto does not have it's (over the top) share of violence but World of Warcraft? Have you seen the violence depicted in this game? It is certainly not graphic. You'll see much greater violence depicted in the Lord of the Rings movies. PLEASE educate yourselves on the subject matter before you start commenting on it. End of rant. God bless.

Show me the study were there is a correlation between violent video games and a spike in teen violence...and don't use the media as your study. We as a free society have the right to make these games...Its called freedom of speech.If you want to blame someone, blame the parents that don't educate there kids by telling them that video games are fake and cant be replicated in real life.

The issue is not even about morality. It is about these bad "studies" and the wrong conclusions that they come up with. They seem totally naive to the nature of evil.

Just because gamers feel better or more relaxed is not a justification for having the game and why would they even be looking for a justification for the game? Is money involved?

It does take a lot of self control not to call other people idiots. Jesus was keen to this issue when He said to call no one "you fool" which would be very much the same as calling someone "stupid" or an "idiot".

All you skeptics of Scripture take note.

PQQAM get off of you podium and quit preaching. You will never get rid of console/PC games - violent or non-violent....period. That is a fact. I'm an adult gamer and I enjoy playing all different kinds of games including violent. Chip wrote "the point im trying to get accross is the fact that games such as Manhunters and Manhunters 2 feed into the primal side of ourselves and thats dangerous! I mean I read that computer hackers actually hacked into the game on the Nintendo Gameboy or somethign and were able to reveal the more violent side of the game...if they were able to do that then my son could probably do that! whats this world coming to with these video games!" Primal side of ourselves? WTF are you talking about...it's a game. Have you ever played a video game? quit commenting on things on which you have no idea what you are talking about. There is no correlation between the video games and violence.

PQQAM wrote, "The study says that gamers are relaxed after playing.
Rapists are also relaxed after raping."

You are an idiot PQQAM. Take your "evil" computer and box it up and ship it back where you got it from. That is the most unintelligent thing I have read this year. You apparently are very small minded.

Chip Douglas wrote, "go read a book...like a book about Jack Thomson who knows a thing or two about violent games!"
LOL - Jack Thomson? The same guy that is restricting the 1st Amendment right of the USA? Another idiot.
"His involvement with music, gaming and the media (and especially use of legal threats) have raised questions about First Amendment rights. The Florida Bar Association is currently seeking sanctions against Thompson for inappropriate conduct."

My comments were not about the violence. They were about the so called "scientific study" that arrives at unscientific conclusions.

Jack, it is clear that you do have a problem but that is not what the article is about. ...although you are not helping the cause of gaming. You are doing more to confirm the evils of gaming. It is clear that you have not learned the self control that Jesus spoke of. I guess the game didn't teach that to you.

So don't be attacking me because I was not attacking you. I was addressing the so called results of the so called "study".

This is hack pseudo-science at its absolute worst. The players SELF-REPORTED feeling "calmer" after engaging in the animated violence in the games. There was no objective measurement. This likely leads to association of participation in violence with a feeling of calmness. What are players likely to do when they are feeling nervous?

The summary of the report given above does not even accurately reflect what the researchers found. They report there are several different personality types of gamers, and that some seem to be adversely affected, i.e., MORE likely to commit actual violence after playing the games. Ashley Philips, are you being deliberatly inflammatory or are you just clueless?

From the looks of some of these comments, such as the cute one about "bashing babies heads", you can CLEARLY tell who doesnt play video games at all. There is no such thing as a video game where you "bash babies heads in", let alone for "sneakers". Seems as though the majority of people here trash talking video games have clearly: 1) not played much if any video games, and 2) in light of the previous, sound like over opinionated ignorant people with "secret issues" who are trying to superimpose thier own INNER DARKNESS onto something or someone else (freud style). Thier info must be over dramatized second hand propaganda, or in other words...LIE's. Freedom of speech is a wonderfull thing and im all for it, however ignorance and lies...should be blasted (in my humble opinion) at EVERY turn, EVERY time, RELENTLESSLY, no matter who the liar, and no matter what the lie. Personally I think video games giving me a safe place to at least pretend to be taking out LIARS, and JERKS, and MORONS, is a boon to my existance. And likely the only real negative consequence of my chosen stress release preference (aka video games).....is that im not actually out in the streets truly doing things to LIARS, MORONS, and JERKS. But...I guess if we want to get rid of video games and go back to the old savage ways of ACTUALLY doing things to LIARS, MORONS, and JERKS...that'd be fine by me.

I'm tired of the old blue hair senior citizens commenting on things they have no idea what they are talking about. Your comments above clearly show you have never played a video game and your total ignorance in the subject matter. There are approximatley 100 million video consoles in US households that does not include worlwide and PC games. Quit spreading unfounded rumors and lies! Look at the MIT report below you ignorant facists. Oh, and quit using religion for fear mongering and excuses for your ignorance.
http://www.pbs.org/kcts/videogamerevolution/impact/myths.html

"According to federal crime statistics, the rate of juvenile violent crime in the United States is at a 30-year low. Researchers find that people serving time for violent crimes typically consume less media before committing their crimes than the average person in the general population."