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'Stuck in Iraq'
October 31, 2006 10:19 AM
Pretty remarkable comment from Sen. John Kerry, D-MA, in California yesterday purportedly to rally support for gubernatorial candidate Phil Angelides, speaking to students at Pasadena City College:
"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well, and if you don’t you get stuck in Iraq.”
Uh.... so our brave fighting men and women in Iraq aren't smart? Is that the implication??
LOCAL REPORTS SAY the line was received with a mixture of "laughter and gasps."
VIDEO CLIP CAN BE WATCHED HERE.
UPDATE: I'm told that conservative talk radio hosts are going to town on this. I'm also told that Kerry meant to be impugning President Bush's intellect, not that of U.S. soldiers, which I suppose makes more sense given that Kerry enlisted in the military. More later...
-- jt
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I feel Senator Kerry, speaks without thinking at times. He should apologize for leaving the word "us" out of his comment, and life will go on. He was speaking to student's and was trying in my mind to get a point across of how important a good education is. Had he used the word " us ", it would have shown how many uneducated decision's the Repulican's have made on this stupid war.
I think most of our politition's should always make speeches sitting down, because most act & talk like that is mainly where their brains are.
I have been a Republican voter for many years, but even with the comment made by Senator Kerry, I'm going Democratic this election. Our country is being brought to it's knees by the bad choices' of the Republican's. Maybe some of our superior's should have paid more attention when they were in school, then they wouldn't be making such stupid decision's.
I am not anti military either. I have had many family member's serve in our Armed Forces and am very proud of them and all other's serving our country.
Posted by: Joyce Meyer | Nov 1, 2006 9:02:23 AM
Unfortunately the comment was being taken out of context (can you imagine??) I watched the original unedited statement and I figured, with my average intelligence, that John Kerry was referring to the President, especially because the statement just before this one was about the President, but that is edited out. It has been a subject of humor for years how Bush didn't study hard in school. His on camera appearances have been loved by comedians just waiting for him to mis-speak. The thing that gets me is how John McCain is getting on the Republican band wagon and speaking out about this absurd exploitation. I thought he had more integrity than that!
Posted by: Jeff | Nov 1, 2006 8:54:09 AM
Boy some of you can really stretch the truth! He was talking to students and he most certainly meant that if they didn't study they would be "stuck in Iraq". He has a history of denigrating the military! He served for THREE MONTHS and got his scratches and got the hell out. Thank you Kerry, you just motivated the millions of military families to get out and vote against your party!How DARE a wannabe rich boy like you say the military men and women are not smart! When that fool got back from Vietnam he said our troops were raping and pillaging on par with Ghengis Khan. He said not too long ago that our troops were "terrorizing" the Iraqi people. What a loser!
Posted by: Christie | Nov 1, 2006 7:11:19 AM
What if you happen to get stuck in Afghanistan instead of Iraq? Are you also a fool with less education and few options as well? If so, did Kerry really mean he's now shifted his position from "for Afghanistan" to "against Afghanistan" as well?
By the way, he got stuck in Vietnam, a war liberals love to analogize to Iraq, for a while too, does that mean Mr. "Smart Pants with some Ketchup Stains" is a bona fide moron too?
Posted by: Eric | Nov 1, 2006 4:19:52 AM
In his news conference, Sen. Kerry said that his remark was a botched attempt at a joke directed at President Bush. Had he then continued by saying, "That, if anyone -- especially any of our military personnel or their families -- misunderstood my comment and was offended, I deeply apologize," the incident would have wrapped up fairly quickly. That's because the mainstream media would have stopped covering the story. INSTEAD Sen. Kerry said, “I apologize to no one for my criticism of the president and of his broken policy.” He also said, “If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy."
Yet back on the December 4, 2005 broadcast of CBS' Face the Nation, Sen. Kerry stated, "[T]here is no reason ... that young American soldiers need to be going into the homes of Iraqis in the dead of night, terrorizing kids and children, you know, women, breaking sort of the customs of the -- of -- the historical customs, religious customs."
That sure sounds like criticizing our troops to me! And some members of the Bush Administration, some leading Republicans, but more importantly, many in the military took it a step further to claim that Sen. Kerry was "basically saying that our troops are acting as terrorists..." I don't recall Sen. Kerry apologizing for offending our military back then either.
Finally, this is the same John F. Kerry who, in 1971 on NBC's Meet the Press, came right out and called the military personnel in Vietnam war criminals. So this self proclaimed "war hero" has a long history of criticizing our military personnel, not just the president and his policies.
Posted by: James Danley | Nov 1, 2006 3:18:45 AM
Ha Ha
Kerry is an idiot! Nice timing.
Posted by: bill | Oct 31, 2006 10:29:26 PM
Unfortunately, I can distinctly remember during my senior year in high school and early years in college the fact that young men had a choice between college, National Guard service or serving in VietNam. The war in Iraq is no different except for the fortunate abolition of the draft. I sadly have to agree with Mr. Kerry that the majority of those young men and women serving in Iraq jointed the military for an opportunity to improve their life through military service in the absence of other opportunity. It burdens my soul every day as I read the increasing numbers of brave young patriotic men and women who are losing their lives in a war that is increasing becoming a mirror of VietNam with little promise of a "successful outcome". I pray that they do not make the ultimate sacrifice for a hidden agenda.
Posted by: Rhonda Maness | Oct 31, 2006 10:11:55 PM
Hey steve, of course kerry doesn't think he is stupid. Stupid people usually don't realize it. But the fact remains, the man is a fool. without the ketchup money, he would would be a big zero.
Posted by: mark | Oct 31, 2006 9:17:46 PM
Dan, you are high as a kite. Kerry was no war hero, in fact the only reason he joined was to further his political career. I guess he figured a smart guy like he could fake three injuries and get discharged so those eft behind must not be as "smart" as him. I'd hate to be a democrat these days, continuously trotting out idiots for candidates, one who flunked out of seminary, one who ran on a campaign of bush is stupid, and failed to notice his grades were just as poor, and who eventually got out smarted. Then of course you've got carpet bagging double speaking stand for everything and nothing HClinton. You poor people must be in hell.
Posted by: mark | Oct 31, 2006 9:15:06 PM
My Son, 2nd LT, 2005 grad of USMA is back, His Brigade was responsible for over 1000 new schools, 43 hospitals and hundreds of water and sewer systems. They captured and killed many iranian and syrian insurgents. Did any of you hear about that? When I vacationed in SE Asia yes the draft was in place. And, yet I and many others were not drafted. I am proud of my son, I destroyed, he builds. Mr. I cannot call him senator, has denagraded, not only my son ,but all the the best of the best who went to war to build. It is called HONOR something he has no concept of. If you want to put down the President then say that. Be a MAN.
Posted by: target 49 | Oct 31, 2006 7:17:07 PM
This is better than an Osama tape.
Posted by: logician | Oct 31, 2006 6:55:24 PM
What an irresponsible comment Jock Young! I've been in the military as an enlisted man for 15 years, served in Iraq, and I have a Masters degree in Public Health. What you said is the pot calling the kettle black. I am a product of our poor public schools. I did have good grades, and could afford to attend college, but unselfishly chose to serve my country instead. You bash our troops as being dimwitted, but belong to a profession that is also not really known for it's rocket scientists! My memories of high school were unpleasant. It was a bad school district; teachers taught out of the manual frequently because they did not know the subject themselves, many pushed on us their personal political views instead of actively teaching us the intended subject, and teacher apathy was rampant. It seemed the higher tenured teachers were the worst ones. I can remember asking my math teacher for help, but being reminded by her that it's not about learning more, but learning the minimum to meet the graduation requirement! My guidance counselor tried to talk me out of joining the military "because I was throwing away too much potential." --my point is, that many teachers (maybe like yourself) are PART of the preceived problem of our troops not being the best educated. Presently, all my co-workers either have college degrees, or are working on them. For someone who has been a teacher for 32 years, maybe you should follow up on some of your students who joined the military, you might be surprised how well they turned out. Saying ALL of our troops usually don't do well in school, is like saying all teachers are below standard. It's a fact, now live with it, sir!
Posted by: Bill | Oct 31, 2006 6:48:41 PM
Whats worse than what John Kerry said, is how ABC news reported it. They made it sound like the Whitehouse started the whole thing. I'm sick and tired of the left leaning media twisting a story with their choice of words,ect. to make ANYTHING the republicans do sound wrong. From now on, I'll watch FOX at 6:30.
Posted by: carole | Oct 31, 2006 6:46:04 PM
Senator Kerry,
Shut up, you're blowing it for us!!! Please, just be quiet until next Tuesday!!!
Posted by: Jon | Oct 31, 2006 6:09:09 PM
If Sen. Kerry WAS making fun of President Bush, then he was also making fun of HIMSELF. President Bush and Sen. Kerry had practically the same grade average at Yale. Michael Kranish, in his article in the Boston Globe, dated June 7, 2005 wrote the following:
"In 1999, The New Yorker published a transcript indicating that Bush had received a cumulative score of 77 for his first three years at Yale and a roughly similar average under a non-numerical rating system during his senior year."
"Kerry, who graduated two years before Bush, got a cumulative 76 for his four years, according to a transcript that Kerry sent to the Navy when he was applying for officer training school."
"Under Yale's grading system in effect at the time, grades between 90 and 100 equaled an A, 80-89 a B, 70-79 a C, 60 to 69 a D, and anything below that was a failing grade."
Posted by: James Danley | Oct 31, 2006 4:39:49 PM
This is the exacted reactionary avalanche we get from the professional daily Tony Snow Job.
Posted by: FESHU | Oct 31, 2006 4:19:46 PM
It's about time someone stood
up to Bushy and Rummy.
Posted by: Eldon Mickelson | Oct 31, 2006 4:10:37 PM
You know it's not tough correcting you guys, I guess you were C students also. Add the one word "us" and you see what he's saying:
"You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don't, you get "us" stuck in Iraq."
Posted by: Ed | Oct 31, 2006 3:41:35 PM
No, Senator Kerry clearly was NOT implying that "our brave fighting men and women in Iraq aren't smart." You could interpret it that way if your goal was to find excuses to ridicule Democrats, which is apparently what this blog is about.
Uneducated people often DO have few options but to join the military, where they can be sent to places like Iraq by uneducated politicians who didn't know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite until after the invasion.
Posted by: Jock Young | Oct 31, 2006 3:15:54 PM
After teaching high school for 32 years, John Kerry's remarks are right on the money. Those who couldn't make the grade went into the service. It is a fact, now live with it.
Posted by: Mike | Oct 31, 2006 3:01:02 PM
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