Boxing Condi

We shouldn't focus on two female politicians but what is really at stake. The lives of several soldiers that are fighting a war that is increasingly becoming unwinnable. We should not forget that when signing up to defend this country there are risks. Unfortunately it is not just an opportunity to see the world and get paid to go to college. When you sign up for serving your country the risk is there that you will be called up to duty in the event of war and that you may lose your life while doing it. I for one am very greatful for the American soldiers on foreign as well as domestic soil serving this country so that we sustain what we as Americans stand for. Let us not take shots at one another but focus our attentions on the real threat of the fact that there are people who are sleepless finding ways to kill us and destroy our way of living and it was not because we chose to go to war with Iraq. The threat has always been there. Let those 3000 soldiers lives be remembered with dignity of serving this country and not in vain as some of these politicians and politician want to be's, would like it to be remembered. Let's put our heads together and get this job done.

Of course Ms. Boxer meant this as an "attack". She simply hedged her language like most talking heads. This is why the majority of Amercans approve of the Donald - we don't have to wonder what he was saying.

Boy I have heard this before! I am a pediatrician who turns out to be single and without children. Does the above mean that I care less or lack the adequate emotional involvement regarding the medical outcome of the sick infants that I treat, as opposed to my married with children's colleagues? Ms. Boxer's comments to Ms. Rice are ridiculous. She should be ashamed of herself. She doesn't need cheap, low blows to debate the issue. I doubt she would have used the same argument if she was addressing Colin Powell.

Red Herring. It's a voluntary military. There is no arm-twisting involved, and you seldom hear troop complaining...as well they could be do to repeated deployments.

Politicians who complain, see poll numbers and take the easy out of attacking the President, who in contrast can take the correct path (albeit also easy)since he will never run for reelection.

The correct path acknowledges that should we leave or cut-back too soon, it risks $100 oil barrels, Turkish attacks into Kurdish territories, Iranian attempted takeovers of Shiite territories, Saudi military backing of Sunnis and their equal oil rights, Iranian acceleration of plutonium enrichment, and the resulting nuclear arms race of other Arab nations, prompting preemptive nuclear action by Israel against those most likely to use such weapons against them.

The downside to doing the right thing: slightly increased casualties in what has been and will continue to be a low-casualty war for the US in contrast to Viet Nam and Korea, let alone the World Wars, or our own Civil War.

Our politicians cannot cite relatively low casualty figures and get reelected. They also cannot point to fighting for low oil prices and corresponding uninterrupted supplies. They cannot get Americans to figure out the consequences of a nuclear Iran. So politicians do what politicians do and shoot the messenger with poll backing.

Condi should have said something about baking cookies versus saving the world, but someone else already tried that rather unsuccessfully...and her child never fought anywhere either.

I think that it is beyond wrong that a United States Senator would launch an attack on a government official exposing that an official's policy will not have an adverse effect on that official. I can say with confidence that a professional policy maker's policies usually do not affect themselves. I am sure many of Senator Boxer's controversial policies that she voted for did not affect her but had an adverse effect on various citizens. Also, to suggest that a human being and Secretary of State would be tossing around troops, other human beings, without any moral compass is truly inhumane. I am sure the safety of the troops weighs very heavily on the minds of all Americans, especially the ones charged with that safety. Finally, the ability to lead is one that sometimes comes with the understanding that you must do what you think is right regardless of the opposition. I believe in this to an extent but look at the reaction of the troops to more troops, not the Honorable Senator from California. Elder Bush had about 500,000 troops when he went into Iraq. Today we have around 150,000. This is not "the greatest military blunder since Vietnam." P.S. Whoever said that really does not need to discuss military history again.

Since when was "female" psychological warfare any different than "male" psychological warfare. It's ALL psychological warfare which is the way humans communicate sometimes. The real problem is that we as a nation at war need to fully support the effort and do everything that is neccessary to win it.

Conservatives: Please, please be quiet about this. Haven't you heard the adage, "When your opponent is self destructing, it's best to get out of the way". Liberals: Please, please continue to support this form of debate. We are interested in how you really feel, and these types of exchanges are where you can really get off your chests your inner feelings so all Americans can see what is in your heart. Senator Boxer: thank you thank you! And please don't stop and don't let the media tell you what you can and can't say. Who are they to tell you, the mighty senator anyhow? They are jerks! You just keep on letting us know how you view the world. You may now continue the rants.

Ha-ha. You go Senator Boxer. It obviously has nothing to do with Rice being single. This is something many talk about everyday. They have nothing to lose in this war that is based on deceiving the American people and using the American military to invade a nation without just cause. We have enough problems in America with race relations, poor healthcare, homelessness, etc., etc. Yet we are in someone else's screwed up country trying to "help" them. Right. I guess they need one last shot at that oil.

Men and women are dying before they have a chance to live and they don't care because their kids and loved ones are not the ones fighting blindly for their causes. It should be an honor to serve and defend ones country but their is no honor in the military's leader right now and thus no honor in their lives being lost. Someone should tell the truth and shame those devils.

To Bob:
You're reading the posts wrong. In this format, the poster's name FOLLOWS the post - it's confusing b/c of the way the site sets up the broken lines between posts. I think you're responding to Gabe. My rant was about womanhood not being contingent upon motherhood. Peace.

Everyone needs to stop whining about who's kids are serving in the military. This is an all volunteer military and our young men and women who elected to serve proudly need our help to support them. Because of them, we Americans have a choice to serve or not. When the draft is re-established then you bean counters can bitch about which kids are serving and which are not. Until then, stop whining and support our military!!!

Boxer is a freak..just like every other politician from California, especially Pelosi.

"So who pays the price? The American military and their families."

How is this controversial? People who fear be reminded that blogging, and speaking, and shouting down others, in favor of the war is all very fine, but like to forget that there are few paying a high price for a policy many (used to) favor. If you take offense at this, you need to a good long look at yourself.

This is another overblown issue just like the Kerry "Botched" joke.

The simple fact is our fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, sons and daughters are stuck over there with NO EXIT STRATEGY.

The 3000 plus dead American soldiers resulting from POOR PLANNING and INADEQUATE EQUIPMENT don't get us in an uproar.

Yet we get offended or enraged over TONE and WORDS between to bickering political parties.

What a Joke!

We can't leave because we can't CUT & RUN, we need to have the resolve to win. Somebody please tell me what that actually means...since this administration won't tell me what it is? Do we want the Shia's or Sunni's in power? Cause that is the choice, there is no third option. There is NOT GOING TO BE A UTOPIAN Iraq with all 3 sides playing nice, so what is the point of staying. Pride, sorry, I'd rather have my kid home with a battered ego.

When Michael Moore made the same point, he wasn't accused of using "Female Psycholical Warfare". I noticed that the columnist uses a quote from a woman to make his "cat fight" point.

Way to go Senator Boxer...........finally someone has the (guts) to stand up to "Condi" cute little name for a war freak just like Bush.

Who Cares? Those two can take care of themselves. How about bringing all of our children home......biological or not.........they are ours. We've all lost too much already and it looks as though if King George gets his way we will lose thousands more.
Barb

Another catty remark by one of all the fabulous dames in the Congress who simply can't stand the fact that they are not the most powerful woman in this country. Sorry Pelosi, but run a poor second. Hillary, I can't hear you.

This is news? This is the debate you want the American public to have? It would seem that you have missed the entire point of the hearing. Maybe you should be reporting for Teen People or Hollywood Extra instead of ABC News.

It seems all evil people are single and childless these days! No love in their hearts for anyone but themselves!!

There are no innocent comments in D.C. - every word is carefully considered; not only for content, but also impact. There is no strenght in a personal attack; unfortunately that is the only thing coming out of Washington these days. Also keep in mind we are heading into the next election cycle with everyone on both sides of the fence trying to straddle the issues. We witnessed this yesterday after the Presidents speech. Everyone of the Representatives, and Senators who commented really don't care about the issues their main concern is maintaining their power base, and unfortunately we are going to see much more of this infighting than we are real solutions to the mess we are in. At this point we have to support or troops ABOVE ALL the hell with politics. Fund them adequately to do their jobs - when I hear Members of the House and the Senate indicate they want to pull the plug on funding I feel this is a disgrace. Yes, disagree with the situation, try to change policy, in a constructive way, but to put any of our Armed Forces at any additional risk for the sake of a "sound bite" that you can use for your re-election - really. Our choice to be in Iraq is done; we now have to find a way to leave, but with some sort of stability in place when we do leave. What we loose sight of the fact we are faced with an enemy that does'nt follow the normal rules of conflict, and will strike where ever they want if they get the chance. To those in policy positions; they don't risk as much as the rest of us common citizens, but we have elected them, and as a democracy; which those who choose to hate us will never understand; we can and must hold them accountable. What the American public should do is make our voices heard - contact your Representatives - Senators let them know that they need to do their jobs, and quit attacking each other and focus on what is really important.