Did Ron Paul have a point?

Another country removes and demonizes your elected leader in 1953,
Then installs the Shaw, who proceeds to torture and execute hundreds
of thousands of Iranians. Osama bin laden (trained by the cia to fight the
Soviets in Afghanistan), attacks nyc on 9/11/2001. We go to Afghanistan
after OUR CREATED attack dog (I can partly agree). Since Osama is having trouble recruiting jihadists, we go (again) into Iraq to destroy their infrastructure.
This greatly increases osama’s recruiting, enabling the “false-flag experts”
to call for more enhancements to their UN-PATRIOT-IC act, resulting in more
erosion of our liberty. And now, not to be outdone by 1953, they’re salivating
at another MIS-ADVENTURE in Iran, which I’m sure will result in more terrorism,
and even more loss of our freedom..
If another country attempted this in the Americas, we would certainly hate them, AND PROBABLY NUKE THEM.
Maybe that is why they are worried about Iran developing nukes…
If not for all our intervention, the worry might not have much merit.
THE ANSWER TO CONSTANT INTERVENTION AND MEDDLING IN THE AFFAIRS OF OTHERS CANNOT BE MORE INTERVENTION AND MEDDLING.

Albert Einstein once said “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”. Think about this quote for a second and ask yourself, does this quote apply to the way they have been running our country?

If you rain bombs on people and kill their innocent children and women who have done nothing to harm you, if you napalm the flesh off innocent little girls in poor villages living in huts during a misty dawn raid in far off lands, if you march your troops gunning their way into a foreign soil, if you decide to install your troops in a foreign land which is considered a holy land (like Jerusalem) by a whole race of people whose culture and language you do not understand and do not care to understand, if you interfere in the domestic governance of a people whose affairs should be no business of yours, if your undisciplined soldiers torture rape and murder innocent families in a foreign land, you must simply understand that all those actions will echo around the world and people will form their opinions about you. You may call their opinions HATRED and they may also have different words and reactions to your actions.

All You republicans must form the habit of reading widely, think clearly, and pause a moment to wonder why some groups of people react to you the way they do.

You are right about those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it. The U.S. is not the first empire to attempt to control the Middle East and we all know how unsuccessful each of those past attempts ended. Those issues you mentioned regarding Iran and Al Qaeda still do root from U.S. intervention militarily and/or monetarily. As for Al Qaeda and Afghanistan, Ron Paul supported the military intervention and still does, as do I. But, that should not stop us from questioning the motives behind those attacks and previous ones from militant groups in the M.E. Al Qaeda took credit for 9-11 and we should deal with them swiftly and powerfully. So if they are the true villain, why do we have so much more military might and funding bogged down in Iraq? There has been no clear link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda, so why were we in such a hurry to go there? No WMD found, No imminent threat. This war appears to be about oil and enormous govt. contracts for private corporations. Stop the foreign aid to every country, including Israel and you will see how much less animosity the world has for our country.

MJ, You ever heard the saying walks like a duck, quacks like a duck must be a lib - Well the Foreign policy that got us into this situation was the policy of appeasement, where we left Afghanistan to its own after Russia pulled out. We did not help the Iranians when the Shah was kicked out. So you may be right the appeasement foreign policy did not work. So know lets see what Pres. Bush's Policy got us, umm no terrorist attack on US, Libya giving up its WMD's, ets... So iut was not intervention that caused the problems but ignoring them. Just like we did before WWII..

And actually if I remember correctly we did nothing to the Taliban / Al Qeada, Which libs confirm when the say Irqa had nothing to do with Al Qeada.

And is it not true the mainstream media sees it Ron Paul's way.

Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.

Spock open your eyes and clean out your ears, you are obviously suffering from mediaconglomaridis. You see things as the media conglomerate wishes you to see them. Choosing to root for republicans or democrats or conservatives or liberals. The fact is Ron Paul votes against tax increases and for individual liberties. Sorry, that you would prefer your repulican team to run by warmongering, liberty depleting, neocon fascists. Ron Paul blamed the American foreign policy, not the American individuals, other than the fact we as a collective people have allowed those in power to institute such a pathetic system. You keep believing in the good guy, bad guy thing. enjoy!

America is paying attention… makes me feel good about my fellow countrymen again! Vote Ron Paul!

First to All DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THE LIBS saying they are Conservatives/Republicans that support Ron Paul. He is not supported by any true Republican and Definitely not Conservatives. He is a Lib in Republican Clothing. True Americans DO NOT blame America First!! Oh by the way the Republicans lost the 2006 election because they were not acting like Conservatives, not because of anything else. and to say it was about the war is propagander because none of the Democrats said they would cut funding, and the one that did in Conn. LOST.

I hadn't really heard of Ron Paul before. I want to hear a lot more about him now. He sounds like he may be the only Republican candidate who isn't a fool.

Seriously folks...Ron Paul is the only candidate in the Republican party with a chance to win the presidency. The GOP has two perception problems. People think they are corrupt, and people think they are stubborn warmongerers. The midterm election polls made both points clear.

Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate in the GOP who will be able to run without these perception problems. He has already flamed the passions of huge numbers of grass root supporters with nothing more than debates and rare interviews. Imagine how powerful Ron Paul could be with a unified GOP behind him!!! I'm honestly starting to believe he might just win this thing.

Ron Paul ignited my political passion that was, up to just 10 days ago, smoldering. There was nothing worth throwing on the fire of hope. I'm a self-employed husband, and father of six great kids. I consider myself a conservative. Here's what I see going on in our nation. Big business and big media are doing a very good job of dividing the people of America on issues like abortion, gay rights, immigration, etc. - all certainly important. But Ron Paul strikes the very core of what's wrong. Our nation is being dismembered while we sit around and throw barbs at one another. The American people (as diverse as we are) need to wake up and see that if we continue to allow the powers that be (Dems & Republicans) rule as they have, we will have NO AMERICA LEFT! Ron Paul, to me, offers the nation hope, whether you're a dem, rep, ind, or disconnected voter. The type of censorship and witch hunt initiated by the Fox News network is nothing compared to what's coming if we don't learn by history. This very channel of free speech will be squashed. AMERICA, PLEASE WAKE UP AND PUT THIS MAN INTO OFFICE - HE'S OUR ONLY HOPE!

I looks from the comments that I really dont need to say anything.

Ron Paul is a true patriot and the only candidate that speaks the truth to the American people. Stop foreign aid, eliminate the Federal Reserve, actually secure our borders and say NO to personal identification cards. Guiliani came off as an uninformed baffoon, that somehow believes he accomplished something extraordinary during the events of 9-11. What did Guiliani do that day, those weeks other than look mad, sad and proud? Wow, that is impressive, if you have the mindset of a 10 year old, I suppose. I guarantee Ron Paul would like nothing more than to have an uniterrupted 30 minute debate with Guiliani this weekend on any of the Sunday morning shows to debate the U.S. foreign policy, the Iraq War and 9-11. Of course it won't happen as Guiliani knows he is far too ignorant, lazy and genuinely intellectually inferior to even manage a draw in that format. The American people are waking up and Ron Paul's support is very real and growing like a campfire to a wildfire.

yes he has a very good point thomas jefferson still lives within him and all of we the people

Dr. Paul's point in the debate was absolutely on target as actions do, indeed, have consequences. His follow-up on CNN with Wolf Blitzer was excellent as well, saying that Guiliani was trying to slience him by calling him unpatriotic for even suggesting that there is a different point of view than the one commonly espoused.

He's a good man with a reasonable message and he absolutely needs to be heard by as many people as possible and let them decide if he should speak for the Republican Party.

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As someone who lost family and friends to 911, I'm sick of Giuliani's fear mongering. Time for us to take a hard look at the why of 911, especially if we want to prevent it again.

Ron Paul is a true American patriot; probably the last within the confines of DC. It's time we head the old American ideal of non-interventionism and stop going abroad in search of monsters to destroy.

Imagine that, a politician who actually uses FACTS in his argument! Rudy Giuliani obviously couldn't argue with the facts because he probably didn't know them. Instead, he chose to play on Fox News audience sympathies toward 9/11 for some cheap applause. Were Giuliani actually elected, we'd probably be in for a presidency full of hot air and soundbites, but no substance. With Ron Paul, we'd be in for some real change. I believe that Ron Paul is exactly what this country needs in order to get back on the path that our Founding Fathers set us on. That was a path toward greatness. A path towards being the beacon of hope for real freedom that we were destined to be.

Sometimes the truth hurts. To those who don't want to hear it and to those who speak it. Ron Paul just finished his presidential bid, I mean why would we want a president who told the truth?

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
- Mahatma Gandhi

We are moving on to the second step. As long as we live in America there is not going to be any censorship without a fight! Ron Paul is the only candidate that doesn’t have his head so far up his ass that he can actually read and understand the Constitution and the 9/11 Report. Giuliani just heard someone say 9/11 and had to get his name in there somewhere. It should be a scandal in itself the way Rudy whores out the tragedy of 9/11! Anyone who doesn’t think foreign policy plays a major role in how the world views the United States should be declared unfit for office!

Ron Paul made a great point. I'm excited and pleased to see so many Americans are seeing through the rhetoric and the way some are attempting to spin his comments. I hope he is the Republican candidate for President.

The good doctor is correct in his statements. Rudy is uninformed or just plain stupid.

Go Ron Paul!!!!!!!!!!