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General Discontent
May 09, 2007 9:01 AM
In an act of defiance perhaps not seen since President Truman fired Gen. Douglas MacArthur, today the anti-war veterans group VoteVets.org, which has been influential with Capitol Hill Democrats, is launching a half-million-dollar TV ad campaign featuring Maj Gen John Batiste (Ret.), former commanding general of the first infantry division in Iraq.
The ad begins with a clip President George W. Bush saying "I have always said that I will listen to the requests of our commanders on the ground."
Batiste then appears, saying, "Mr. President, you did not listen. You continue to pursue a failed strategy that is breaking our great Army and Marine Corps. I left the Army in protest in order to speak out. Mr. President, you have placed our nation in peril. Our only hope is that Congress will act now to protect our fighting men and women."
The ads are targeted at Republican members of Congress seen to be wavering in their support for the war. Those targeted include GOP Senators Susan Collins (Maine), John Sununu (NH), John Warner (Virginia), and Norm Coleman (Minnesota), and GOP Representatives Mary Bono (Calif.), Phil English (Penn.), Randy Kuhl (NY), Jim Walsh (NY), Jo Ann Emerson (Missouri), Tim Johnson (Illinois), Mike Rogers (Michigan), Fred Upton (Michigan), and Mike Castle (Del.)
The ads conclude with Batiste saying, depending on the congressperson targeted, "Senator Collins, protect America, not George Bush."
Major General Paul Eaton (Ret.) and Gen. Wesley Clark (Ret.) will also appear in ads.
Meanwhile, at the VFW headquarters in DC later today, according to the ARMY TIMES, an "Appeal for Courage" petition signed by 2,700 current and former service members supporting continued U.S. combat operations in Iraq will be given to House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC.
"The petition was organized by two U.S. service members serving in Iraq, Navy Lt. Jason Nichols, serving in Baghdad, and Minnesota National Guard Staff Sgt. David Thul, who is conducting convoy operations in Iraq with the 34th Infantry Division," the newspaper reports.
What do you think?
-- jpt
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rewinn: "...why aren't they attacking Sweden..."
Give them time!
There was an article in the Christian Science Monitor, by James Brandon, back on December 6, 2005, regarding the growing unrest within the Muslim community of Malmo, Sweden. He reported: "Bosnian authorities arrested a Muslim Swede in Sarajevo in October for possession of explosives while Islamist websites published several inflammatory but unsubstantiated claims in late summer that a mujahideen training camp has been established in southern Sweden." He also reported: "...many Malmo Muslims are turning to increasingly radical forms of Islam..."
Posted by: James Danley | May 18, 2007 12:09:23 PM
If the problem is Islamic extremists who hate the freedom and licentiousness of the West, why aren't they attacking Sweden ... it not only has Christianity as a state religion but allows gays to marry!
There must be something MORE than mere "hatred for our ways." Something MORE. Oh, what could it be?
Posted by: rewinn | May 16, 2007 5:09:01 PM
Hey Real Deal, First as already pointed out I was not the one who wrote that, but I do agree with it. I think you read it wrong, I presume he is talking about people ignoring the threat that the islamic terrorists is a danger, just as the libs ignore Hitler.
Kathy on a little note the cut backs to the military happened under Clinton, not Reagan who built it up. from Carter's cutbacks.
Posted by: spock | May 14, 2007 1:13:00 PM
Oh Rabbit Blind as the whole Liberal Hate / Blame America First crew.
Yeah the Iraqi group did real good building the temples for Hussein. Ah but just like all the Libs you respond with name calling instead of fact.
So as far as prospering lets see Mike Moore, Pelosi, Gore, Kerry, Clinton must be making money since they all own stock in Halliburton. UMMM Hypocrisy!
Posted by: spock | May 14, 2007 12:03:24 PM
If anyone doubts the intent and the goal of the Islamic extremists, Google or Yahoo "Fouad Hussein." He is a Jordanian journalist and author of the book, "Al-Zarqawi: The Second Generation of Al Qaeda." Read about Fouad Hussein and what he reports and then judge for yourself as to whether the Islamic extremists' threat is real or imaginary.
It IS my opinion that the history books (unless the gates of Armageddon swing open before then) will be very kind to President Bush. He will one day be hailed as a great visionary. One who tried to convince the world of the threat that these Islamic extremists posed to the civilized world but failed. One who demonstrated tremendous courage in putting national security and the survival of Western Civilization before party politics. Laugh all you want! The day will come that every Bush-hater will recognize their hatred blinded them from the real truth. Unfortunately, another day will come! But for far too many, there won't be a day after!
Posted by: James Danley | May 14, 2007 9:30:56 AM
The petition signing at the VFW is very sad. Our soldiers want to be brave and they ARE brave. They go on fighting in the hopeless endeavour that Rove, Cheney, and their cronies have set upon them. This is the consequence of an administration that is AFRAID to ask of sacrifice from the country for this "war" (occupation). Supporting the troops means giving them 200,000 more young, healthy soldiers to "fight" door to door until the occupation weeds out all the insurgents. Or perhaps it is 300,000. Nevertheless, whatever the number is, THAT is what is needed, and THAT would take a draft.
But would it work?
If so, then instead of forcing our soldiers to endure this hopeless struggle, Bush should call for a draft or acknowledge the futility of the occupation and leave.
History repeats itself.
A. Patriot
Posted by: Afraid to say-because of patriot act | May 14, 2007 8:08:59 AM
Rabbit, I did send a comment this morning that has yet to be posted. There have been occasions that I have had to click onto "Feedback" and request that my comment be posted (i.e. one of my earlier comments and then the one this morning). I'll see if this is posted before the other one.
Posted by: James Danley | May 12, 2007 4:29:01 PM
Rabbit, I am looking forward to your comment, as soon as Political Punch posts it.
But earlier you stated: "George Bush was NOT elected in the sense that Ahmadi Nejad was elected. ie: By a clear majority vote in a democratic and transparent election. International observers confirmed this." I assume you are referring to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of Iran.
You are correct, President Bush did not win the popular vote in 2000. But our founding fathers, in drawing up our U. S. Constitution, decided against determining our President and Vice President by a national popular vote. They instead decided on a system which is now called the Electoral College. With this system, each state has it's own popular vote. While the names of the candidates appear on the ballot, the people of each state are actually choosing Electors (each political party nominates a slate of Electors). And it is these Electors who actually cast THEIR votes for President and Vice President.
If no candidate for President wins an absolute majority of the votes cast by the Electors, then the U. S. House of Representatives votes on the top three presidential candidates. Each state gets one vote. The states poll their respective House members and the candidate with the majority receives that state's vote (if there is a tie, then that state abstains). The House of Representatives will vote in this manner until one candidate emerges with a simple majority. That candidate becomes the new President of the United States.
If no candidate for Vice President wins an absolute majority of the votes cast by the Electors, then the U. S. Senate votes on the top two vice presidental candidates. Each Senator gets a vote. The vice presidential candidate that receives the simple majority is elected as the new Vice President of the United States. HOWEVER if there is a tie vote, then the sitting Vice President breaks the tie.
There have been 4 occasions (1824, 1876, 1888 and 2000) where the winner of the national popular vote did not become President. The 1824 election was determined by Congress (as referred to above).
Posted by: James Danley | May 12, 2007 10:11:52 AM
@Spock making excuses for his rapist.
" Halliburton,.........is pretty much the only American company big enough to handle rebuliding Iraq"
The Iraqi construction companies and etc who built Iraqi infrastructure in the first place and had made phenomenal progress since the last time the USA trashed the whole country, COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE TASK OF REBUILDING. Then you silly son of sam, you would long since have given them enough money for the job and it would probably be at least half finished. They did it last time, there is history to prove I AM RIGHT!
Instead you silly deluded sheepy, as it is now where the money is pouring into Iraq (in concept anyway) in billions and no discerbable result is to be seen. Unless you happen to be a Halliburton accountant or executive.
Posted by: Rabbit | May 12, 2007 7:09:20 AM
Also Danley, I have posted an answer to your queries about US election fraud as seen by the world, but it seems to have been censored this hour past.
I guess I'll be taking another screen shot of this page now before logging off.
Posted by: Rabbit | May 12, 2007 6:58:47 AM
Real Deal, I am the one who wrote "Denying the fact..." not Spock. I admit to ignorance when it comes to understanding the point of your comment, especially your reference to Adolph Hitler. My saying that the Islamic extremists want to turn the world into their own Caliphate is not my opinion; and certainly not my words (nor is it my prediction). It is the words of these Islamic extremists. It is what they preach to their flock and it is what they teach their children! If history is such a friend of yours, as you claim, then you should understand that attempting to appease someone whose sole purpose in life is to bury you, will only result in your burial.
Posted by: James Danley | May 12, 2007 2:59:28 AM
"Denying the fact that Islamic extremists want to destroy America and the rest of the civilized world in order to form their own Caliphate is the real insanity" Quote from Spock
Your remind me of a young Adolf Hitler when his views on the Jews were emerging.
How about you try reading books instead of burning them ?
History is my friend, ignorance is yours
Posted by: Real Deal | May 12, 2007 1:32:23 AM
Before israel, all Arab countries wanted to do was sell the USA cheap oil.
I remember even in the 60s paying 25 cents a gallon.
Think about it.
It is time to dump AIPAC, and kick out all israeli/American nationals like Chertoff who support and are the real terrorist.
Posted by: Cliff Taylor | May 11, 2007 1:59:12 PM
Islam taking over the world? What a joke. People saying that know the penny has dropped on the BIG LIE. 95% Media is jewish owned and that IS the truth. Americans are dying for israel; 9/11 was for zionism.
When the war crime trials start it will be Wolfowitz, pearle, Zakheim, kissinger, blitzer and traitors to USA bush/cheney/rummey twisting in the wind.
Posted by: cliff taylor | May 11, 2007 1:53:32 PM
Sorry Ken, I meant to say you could not of said it better not James in my last post. So Great post Ken
Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 10:57:54 AM
Could not say it better James. Don't you love they keep bringing up Halliburton, but they leave out a few facts, one that this company is pretty much the only American company big enough to handle rebuliding Iraq and they sub contract alot. The only other company in the World is in France, so they do they want to give jobs to the French or do they want US citizens to have jobs. On another note most of their Lib leaders including Micheal Moore hold stocks in Halliburton. Hypocrisy at its best.
Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 10:53:18 AM
Denying the fact that Islamic extremists want to destroy America and the rest of the civilized world in order to form their own Caliphate is the real insanity. Democrats flexing their newly acquired muscle in an attempt to micro-manage the war in Iraq is the real insanity. Calling for the immediate withdrawl of our troops from Iraq -- regardless of the consequences that have been forecast should we leave Iraq prematurely (even the Iraq Study Group Report warned: "If we leave and Iraq descends into chaos, the long-range consequences could eventually require the United States to return.") -- is the real insanity. Attempting to roll back the clock and reverting to a September 10, 2001 mindset is the real insanity.
Your hatred for President George W. Bush has blinded you from the real truth: The Islamic extremists want us dead because we refuse to convert not only to Islam, but to their extremist interpretation of Islam. It's that simple! And they are willing to kill anyone, even other Muslims, who stand in their way. President Bush did NOT cause this. These Islamic extremists have been killing Americans for over 20 years. But it is President Bush who is doing everything he possibly can -- fully within the powers given to him by the U. S. Constitution and Congress -- in order to prevent any future attacks against the homeland by these Islamic extremists. Al Qaeda DECLARED Iraq as their primary battleground. Cutting and running from Iraq will only give al Qaeda the victory they are looking for. We must defeat the Islamic extremists wherever they are! It is better to take the battle to them, rather than wait until they return to Main Street U. S. A.
Thank you President Bush for your courage in standing up against the Islamic extremists; and remaining resolute in your efforts to defeat them wherever they are!
Posted by: James Danley | May 11, 2007 10:42:18 AM
Should we really be surprised that Bush hasn't listened to the military? Nothing he's done has been conducive to their well-being. How much of the money appropriated in all of the spending bills actually went to the military? How much went to DHS? What about Halliburton? Blackwater? So on and so forth...but the point remains; a lot of Americans are already awake to what's happening, and a lot more are waking up everyday. I just hope these people know what they can expect when EVERYBODY in this country has had enough of their greed, hate, lies, and war. I like to think of myself as a pacifist, but every person has their limits. I rest assured at night knowing I'm not the only person that feels that way. Give sensibility and intelligence a chance. Support our troops with positive thoughts and prayers, and hope for their safe arrival home. Don't support the idiots that are allowing their deaths for the sake of POWER. That's what it comes down to...Power. The bestsolution I can think of: don't give it to them. Don't let them have power over you. All they want is your heart and mind. Keep those for yourself.
Posted by: Ken | May 11, 2007 10:29:44 AM
Another note those international observers were asked t come in 2004 not 2000, also are they not the same ones who said that Iraq under Hussein had open elections and also Venezula. They only think Elections are honest when a Dictator or Socialist wins. Also please explain the 2000 people who are no longer alived that voted for Gore in NJ and the 2500 in Washington State?? All Democrats.. This is a Fact look it up before condeming it.
Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 9:23:55 AM
Don't you anti-bush people get it, you are falling for propaganda from Soros and his liberal puppets. The Libs (and that is all the Democrats now, since they threw out their last true Democrat in Conn. Think one thing about Florida Jeb Bush was a highly popular Governor in Florida, do you think his brother would lose their?? Gore wanted only to recount specific votes and NOT count the military votes, he asked not to count them by the way. So Libs get over it, maybe if you used all this hatred you have for a man whos honorable and put it towards the terrorist, this war would be over..
Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 9:19:09 AM
R O N P A U L 2008
BRING SANITY BACK TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND THE COUNTRY
Posted by: Me | May 11, 2007 2:28:59 AM
Rabbit, quote your specific sources. Who are these "international observers"? What specific GAO report detailed the fraud & abuse you state.
How can you assert this line, "The fact that US elections are now completely undermined, that they are rigged and blatantly even, is known to the whole world." Well, maybe you're narrow view of the world, but there are many others that disagree with your as yet unsubstantiated allegations.
Posted by: rj | May 11, 2007 12:43:05 AM
What is the point of this group? To advocate the pull out of Iraq, before a stable government can form, like South Vietnam? Google how many South Vietnamese died in the Killing Fields.
Why not put effort into killing the terrorists (Al Qaeda in Iraq)?
Posted by: rj | May 11, 2007 12:28:30 AM
George Bush was NOT elected in the sense that Ahmadi Nejad was elected. ie: By a clear majority vote in a democratic and transparent election. International observers confirmed this.
Ironically the international observers concluded that the US elections were not honest or transparent. The GAO investigations have also quantified the election fraud, it isn't in doubt. The fact that US elections are now completely undermined, that they are rigged and blatantly even, is known to the whole world. The only ones denying it are those who still delude themselves into thinking their guys are in power.
If you want fair and honest elections you will not find them in the USA, but you can go to Venezuala, another victim of US slander and threats, and see a country whose democratoc elctions got top marks, again according to the same international observers who maintain the US system is fraudulent.
Posted by: Rabbit | May 10, 2007 10:27:34 PM
Nice try Tim! (I am repeating this from a posting a few days ago.) You may not want to acknowledge it, but George W. Bush WAS ELECTED President of the United States in 2000 and, AGAIN, in 2006. If anyone tried to steal the 2000 election it was the mainstream media in their attempt to delay calling the early Bush victories and overhyping the early Gore victories. They held off calling states for Bush that they knew he would win by double digits. And the networks called Gore the winner of Florida an hour BEFORE the polls on the panhandle were closed. About an hour later, the networks reversed the call and announced Bush the winner. All of that was an attempt to discourage Republican voters in states where the polls were still open and suppress their votes. It worked, but fortunately not enough! Then Vice President Gore decided to cherry-pick a handful of counties for recounting, hoping to find enough votes to overturn the election. He failed! Several media teams recounted the votes and they all verified that George W. Bush, did in fact, win Florida and the national election.
Posted by: James Danley | May 10, 2007 9:19:01 PM
Bill Jones wrote way too much, as he exposed how stupid he really is!
Posted by: dan | May 10, 2007 7:22:34 PM
National Public Radio began airing the protest of Army Officers against the Iraq War.
Pres. Bush's lies are brought into the daylight by the U.S. Troops.
It's time to demand the RESIGNATION of President Bush.
Adam of CA
Posted by: Adam Young | May 10, 2007 4:55:56 PM
People seem to forget that Bush was re-elected after taking our country to war over non-existent WMD's in Iraq. The red states should be allowed to succeed from the union.
Posted by: The Liberal | May 10, 2007 1:50:10 PM
Why just now? These Retired Generals should have spoken long time ago like opposed the war before it got started. Why just now?
Do these people wants to get notice and are up for something for themselves or just have nothing to do?
Just cut off the war funding and get the GI's home. Let GW & Dick fight their own war. Maybe send the Bush Twins and Cheneys kids.
Posted by: marc | May 10, 2007 10:24:18 AM
I find it interesting in the past half hour while reading the comments on here to see how some have completely disappeared or have been edited.
What happened to free speech?
There is none and ABC is part of the problem. 96%+ is controlled by 7 families, possibly even less now.
As the old saying goes:
M=m3
MANIPULATION = MONEY x MEDIA x MANPOWER
The main point is that the Bush-Cheney Crime, Drug and Fraud Dictatorship need to be tried for war crimes and dealt with.
Posted by: Teh | May 10, 2007 10:02:24 AM
For thos who compare the Iraq situation to Vietnam, we would of won that war if libs did not tie the hands of the troops. and when we pulled out over 2 million people were slaughtered.
The 9/11 commission that te socialist hold up stated that the terrorists were at war with us during Clinton pathetic presidency and nothing was done. Which led up to 9/11.
Why don't we wait until we see a mushroom cloud before we do anything. I mean the libs waited to take out Hitler after he killed more then 12 million people.
As far as the General resigning in protest, he was up for retirement. If he did not like it he would of resigned years ago. And remember Clark ran for the socialist party in 2006. They are looking for book deals.
When the socialist's (Democrats) call our troops Nazis, terrorist in the middle of night I do not think that is supporting our troops and any ex military man that can support that party did not join the military for honor but to use it.
Posted by: spock | May 10, 2007 9:29:10 AM
As a military family I say its about time Generals! Where were you for our troops?
Bring them home NOW...
Posted by: PrissyPatriot | May 10, 2007 9:08:57 AM
What these generals are doing is effectively attempting to undermine the basic premise of our Constitution - civilan supremacy over the military. Giving advice to our civilian leadership is indeed their responsibilty. Resigning in protest when they don't like the decisions made is something else. I believe the word is coups.
Posted by: Mark Stauffer | May 10, 2007 6:55:23 AM
Gen Batiste, Is one of the good guys, you need to find more service personel willing to speak out, because they are there. Back in 1971, I served as the EOT Officer for the first Div in Korea and I would like to pass information on abut some of craziness that went on then that I am sure is happing today. How do I go about it. Captain Edward Wall INF (RET)
Posted by: Edward Wall | May 10, 2007 4:16:53 AM
I'll tell you 1 more thing that's wrong with this country. The GD MEDIA. And what it >>>doesn't<<<< tell Us!
Hey you know what? I served with HONOR!
And I understand what My fellows think they are fighting for. But they are being MISLEAD! By the Policy being made by their Representives.
here we have our Brave men & Women off fighting for freedom and liberty for people in Iraq and Afghanistan! While our government sells it away with treaties to foreign IMF bankers and CFR Policy makers. That are exploiting this country for evey penny they can suck out of it, as they ruin it. And Turn This beautiful great country, full of very decent people. Into a third world nation! For a few peoples benefit.
And I'm friggen sick of IT! I'm sick of seeing My Fellow brothers in arms used for target practice for an ungreatful nation Like Iraq. As Their leaders create crap policy that does nothing to relieve them of their burdens.
These people who are running things. Will not be happy until they draft every able man/women in america that would stand up to tyranny in America against corruption and get them killed fighting for nought in the middle-east.
The the propaganda of fighting the War on terrorism is BS! Especially when that War on terrorism(And the peopel propgating it) now calls US Border Patrol agents, criminals for doing their JOBS! That calls GOOD Cops who do their jobs with respect to their neighbors, terrorists. I could go on. But why? people in this country will learn the truth eventually. At their own detriment! I'm done!
Posted by: Tim | May 10, 2007 1:44:37 AM
BS! Bush was Not re-elected. He wasn't elected the first time either.(Can you say election tampering, proven, but nothing done about it?)
Amyone with half a brain, and 1/10 the knowledge of our founding fathers knows this.
The problem is what is being sold to this country as being truth. Which it is NOT!
Our education system is a Failure.
Posted by: Tim | May 10, 2007 1:29:59 AM
i definitely think the general has a right to voice his opinion he quit his carrier in protest so he must have believed in the cause the president is a lying dirt bag who does not care about the poor and the middle class only his elitist friends and his killing Americans without giving citizens a good reason for this war and now he intends to attack Iraq bush and chenney are evil and heartless men that see nothing but money and they think its their divine right to kill our men and women and put us further into debt president bush does not care what the people think and demand from him as a president which is a fair lawful system and straight forward information concerning our country not lies and story they made up over dinner to feed us so they get what they want they serve the devil and that is really the truth.
Posted by: carlos | May 10, 2007 1:27:55 AM
There are many people in the red states that still believe Saddam was behind 9/11 and that usable WMD's were found in Iraq. The Bush Administration does not even make those claims.
Posted by: The Angry Blue Stater | May 10, 2007 1:21:43 AM
Our country is in dire straits. In many aspects. Poor leadership. Selfish programs that benefit a few.
This so called War. We will never be able to leave. Because if and when we do. These places will revert back to what they were before. You cannot change a country with force by military thuggery. Especially when there's no real change to be expected from those who occupy. Just poor policy that is intended to create poor results. To justify more money spending on a Black hole.
I've stopped kidding Myself months ago.
9/11? Inside Job. Our economy? Forsale to the nearest Communist elitist banker or broker. Foreign of course!
Justice in America? Only if there are prosecutors willing enough, higher ups that Know what real US Constitutionalism and Bill of Rights stands for. That have the nuts to trial some would be corrupted politician/foreign corrupted Visa holder or Here in America with their Polictical Amnesty. At their own detriment of course!
CAFTA, NAFTA, ATFA, NAU? It's all been signed! This is NOT The United States of America anymore. This is some kind of JOKE Big Business thinks it can get away with!
Bush/Cheney/Rice,etc.? They ain't anybody! Just someones Puppet.
Wake up America. While you still have time.........because you're almost out.
Posted by: Tim | May 10, 2007 1:16:12 AM
It is easy to blame the Bush Administration for the mess in Iraq. People seemed to forget that Bush was re-elected after taking our country to war over non-existent WMD's in Iraq. The red states should be allowed to succeed from union. The mass stupidity and amnesia that exists in the red states is a tremendous burden to America.
Posted by: The Angry Blue Stater | May 10, 2007 1:03:42 AM
9/11 was an inside job and the past two elections were rigged. Bush is a criminal and his entire administration should be tried for war crimes.
Posted by: SAM | May 10, 2007 12:26:38 AM
This Chimp has lost complete touch with the American people. He will not listen to anyone. He only answers to those who "installed" him into the White House, namely the Globalists from the New World Order.
Wake up folks before he declares martial law and becomes the dictator he so desires.
The Bush-Cheney War Machine must be stopped.
Posted by: Ed | May 10, 2007 12:12:20 AM
To respond to the Bush Administration's position that establishing timelines for troop redeployment and benchmarks for the Iraq government would be a mistake, it might be of interest to note that just this week the protestants and the Catholics in Ireland established a peaceful resolution to their decades old bloody feud. And it was due to Great Britain's offer to withdraw their troops and their ruling powers if the two sides sat down and came to joint rule of their country. A timeline and benchmarks. It worked. Imagine that. No, we can't just leave the mess the Bush administration created in Iraq, but we can create benchmarks with consequences that will have a resounding impact on the motivation of the new Iraq government and people to stop the insurgency themselves and bring peace on their terms and with their constitution, not our ideals of democracy forced on a different culture and a demoralized people.
Bush and Cheney should be impeached for their actions and a new administration put in place to end this madness.
Posted by: Rob Dent | May 10, 2007 12:08:36 AM
9/11 was an inside job. Research into the matter leaves no doubt for any rational person. Once you know this all the rest takes on a new perspective.
It is too late anyway, all of us around the world can see clearly what many Americans are yet blind to. The greatest and most pending threat not only to peace, but the survival of the human race, is the USA.
Since its inception the USA has never had a year when it was not involved in war, in other lands. More than one hundred million innocents have perished directly at the hands of the USA or in it's history since the native Americans to the latest 'Collateral Damage' in Iraq or Aghanistan. More than 100 million!
Posted by: Rabbit | May 9, 2007 11:59:02 PM
The actions of this presidency are not accidents. They were intentional acts intended to destroy America. This is quite clear when looked at from the globalist point of view. They must tear down America as far as they can, to eliminate all resistance while they built they sick, twisted new world order. But I have a strong intuition that they won't get very far with their madness...
Posted by: Ted | May 9, 2007 11:46:29 PM
The government has been screwing vets for 50 years now, it makes me wanna puke how American's wave their plastic flags made in China and scream support the troops, and then crap on them. This is all about politics, or else these same people would have made ads all this time to support those of us who were injured before this war
Posted by: danny | May 9, 2007 11:27:41 PM
The Bush Family, Cheney and Karl Rove are the Axis of Evil and the major terrorists of the world. They have destroyed this country's standing in the world for generations to come. Greed and power backed by an unstoppable defense industry along with the control of the media is a painfully destructive combination. Our youth are paying dearly with their lives and our children's children and grandchildren will be paying for the terrible blunders being made. What a tragedy that so many American people have been so duped!
Posted by: Janna Cable | May 9, 2007 10:16:30 PM
No doubt the guy who sits in the Oval Office is dillusional to the point of being dangerous...I can't even refer to him using his title, it would give me nausea and would insult past occupants of the White House. Please, somebody, anybody, keep his fingers away from THE button...ya know...the BIG BIG button!
That egocentric moron will think it's a doorbell...or will push a button that says LAUNCH thinking it spells LUNCH.
Posted by: karl | May 9, 2007 10:07:44 PM
I completely agree with the ad. Bush--the guy won't listen. Americans DO NOT want to endanger our soldiers, we don't care about the Bush family's beef with Iraq (which has little to do with our everyday lives) and we don't want to stay at war. Our nation is losing men & women unnecessarily and we need them home. Nevermind that we have a natural disaster almost every week with very few national guards to respond because they're all in Iraq or headed there. The ad is right on point but I won't hold my breath for him to listen now because he doesn't need our votes anymore.
Posted by: Shelli | May 9, 2007 10:06:38 PM
Impeachment is the answer.
Posted by: Brad Bristol | May 9, 2007 10:04:36 PM
Hey would they let the troops sign a petition to go home too or are just for the ones that support the White House position? Hmmmmmmmm let me guess. Does anybody notice how whenever the White House wants support the "powers that be" always score a major success like catching terrorist planning to kill troops at Fort Dixe. If Al Queda is really smart they'll attack only when a competent administration is in office. Why waste your resources when this one will do your work for you.
Posted by: Semperfly | May 9, 2007 10:00:13 PM
Bush,Cheney and their gang of oil gready thugs have brought this great country of ours to its knees. I strongy urge our congressmen and senators to stop the worst criminal in the history of the United States - George W. Bush and end his murder and maiming of our fine young men and women. When will the people of this country wake up and realize that he is actually a war criminal?
Posted by: Dr. O. Pijoan | May 9, 2007 9:54:32 PM
Wow! Those of you who think that Bush has just done the worst job ever as President, thanks for sharing your unbelievably intelligent thoughts with the rest of us! I did not realize that you actually know more about what is going on in the world than our President. I also did not realize that you would have done a much better job of running a war and a country at the same time. As for "seb's" comment on all the problems this country is having and them falling squarely on the President's shoulders, wake up. How can all the problems our country has come from the President who has only been in office 7 years? And surely you all do not believe that there has not been any good done in Iraq, do you? Oh wait, that's what you've been told by the good folks at the networks, isn't it? It's truly just too bad that none of you have run for President because clearly you could have done a better job than our current one.
Posted by: J R | May 9, 2007 9:45:30 PM
As a former Sergeant First Class of the U.S. Army, I am well aware of the ridiculous argument that not supporting the war means that you don't support the troops, and that you are not patriotic. I served in the war. I have many friends currently deployed to war zones. I fully support their efforts. However, as a former Non-Commissioned Officer, I lived by the NCO Creed that clearly stated, "All soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership." The soldiers serving today are not receiving outstanding leadership from the highest levels. The Iraq war was founded on lies and deceit, and the soldiers that are acting under orders to complete each mission they are given do extremely well to meet all expectations. It is time that we gave these brave men and women the right orders to follow. This can only be accomplished by removing the “legacy chasing” commander-in-chief, George W. Bush. Leading this country means doing what is right for the country, and its people. Our government was established to create a foundation for leading the country through the voice of its people. The Bush administration is definitely not listening to the voice of the people, and for this he should be removed from his position.
Posted by: Andrew Boynton | May 9, 2007 9:32:22 PM
I don't know who is in control of this Country anymore or if they even care the rest of us. Christian symbology is banned at government locations. Yet they have the Greek goddess of the underworld Persphone on top of the dome of our Capital.
Posted by: Gavin | May 9, 2007 8:55:39 PM
It is obvious that this govt are criminals. Our country will continue to go down hill and be hated by the world (not just muslims, but all reasonable people), until they are all locked up. If you dont believe that, please wake up.
We have done nothing for peace and nothing for the citizens of our country. Our standard of living falls, as we give more and more money to the companies run by cronies of the govt. We have LESS freedom (just what the so-called terrorists were after).
Stop fooling yourselves....
Posted by: Dave Berlinger | May 9, 2007 8:34:11 PM
To all the "We cannot pull out crowd" I say "BS" If your old enough that was the same crap we were told when we pulled out of Vietnam. The communists were going to take over Asia bahabaha. 20 years later we are trading friendly trading partners.
We need to pull out NOW. You want to win the hearts and minds, first you need to feed there bellies and let them fight for themselves. Iraq was an entitlement society anyway.
Posted by: Jim | May 9, 2007 8:29:13 PM
I almost want to give up. But we must keep on talking to this President if thats what he is...................
Posted by: Calvyn | May 9, 2007 8:20:20 PM
Well I for one would like for The
General to elaborate. What specifically did he tell Bush that Bush ignored? I am willing to listen! As for the 300-400 thousand troops we did not have them and Rumsfeld admitted as much when he said you go to war with what you have, not what you want. I never agreed with Rumsfelds military re-organization or With Powells "you break it you own it philosophy." But hell broke loose on Rummy for telling the truth. I would like to see a little more agressiveness on the part of the military as in tracking down and killing Al Sadr and anyone who dances in the street with a gun after an IED goes off. Our rules of engagement are too wimpy and that is the real cause of our problems! That and the inability to go into places that are off limits just like in Vietnam when we could not bomb Hanoi.
As to having gone into Iraq, Saddam was in violation of the truce and that was reason enough. But for those who are ignorant of the facts let me just state that Al Queda was in Iraq. It was working with the group named Ansar al Islam and was being used to suppress the Kurds with Saddam turning a blind eye. Saddam had a long history of supporting terrorist not Al Queda specifically. Iraq was on the list of terror sponsoring nations BEFORE Bush took office. Saddams relationship with the group is and was nebulous but did exist and is documented. There is no evidence linking him to 911 and despite the claims of some on here Bush and Cheney never claimed any direct link. I remember Cheney saying there was NO link. British intelligence still stands behind their yellow cake claims that Bush mentioned in his speech. Saddam was 10 times worse than Milosevic and how many on here supported his removal for his crimes against humanity ( I smell hypocrisy ). I did not support it and did not think such reasoning was valid in Saddams case either.
The justification and reasoning went as such:
1. Saddam supports Palestinian terrorist with money against their mutual enemy Israel. 2. He has not proven to have destroyed all of the WMDs that HE claimed to own post GWI. 3. What is to stop him from handing such a weapon to Al Queda to use on their mutual enemy the USA? See bullet number 1. Re-read as necessary until the light goes off in your head. You need not agree with the reason and still oppose having gone to war but the logic is inescapable. The intel given to Bush was wrong, incomplete and or both that does not make him a liar for having gone to war with it. There was no rush it, took 18 months of debate in congress and at the UN before troop one set foot on Iraqi soil. During this time the many reasons for going to war were trotted out one at a time making it seem that they were unrelated and as if Bush was grasping at straws trying to find something that would stick. The communication was simplistic and poorly done. All of the reasons should have been given together and mentioned every time. This does not make Bush a liar but a poor communicator and I think we call all agree he is not the best speaker.
There was a coalition of over 30 nations involved. They provided as much support as we got in GWI which is to say very little. Dont count me as ungrateful it is all some of them could send. The difference is that we were fighting GWI with Reagans military and could muster 300,000 troops easily and we are fighting the war on terror with the downsized Clinton military which is half the size under Reagan. In defense of Clinton this was the result of the collapse of the USSR and Democrats desires to spend on social programs. I dont have an answer on how to win I just know that I want us to win and leaving now just does not seem to be the right answer!
Posted by: Bill Jones | May 9, 2007 7:55:21 PM
Bush is a coward. He will put our troops lives in danger but he won't even toss out the first pitch at the opening games of the past two baseball seasons for FEAR of being booed. What a moron. What a total coward. He is not resolute. He is delusional.
Posted by: Ron Maar | May 9, 2007 7:41:39 PM
The Department of Homeland Security payed me a visit for speaking out against the traitor Bush. But then again, I am a middle aged white Christian that loves my country. We are on the verge of becoming a fascist dictatorship under this neocon Administration. Exercise your Second Ammendment rights NOW!!!
Posted by: A. Patriot | May 9, 2007 7:39:50 PM
Does this mean we aren't winning hearts and minds anymore?
Posted by: Worst president EVER!!! | May 9, 2007 7:28:18 PM
When asked if his father had advised him on whether or not to attack Iraq in the first place, Mr. Bush said that he received his advice "from my heavenly father." One more reason why religion and politics don't mix!
Posted by: Ron | May 9, 2007 7:09:01 PM
The General has EVERY RIGHT as a citizen to speak his mind, that's why he dawned that uniform on in the first place to protect the FREEDOMS that Americans have. FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!
Secondly, he's RIGHT!! Bush is the WORST president this country has EVER had!! He invaded a country that had NOTHING to do with 911. He chose to take this country into a war that has no end in site. Bush has made that region less safe.
Posted by: Bush Scumbag | May 9, 2007 7:06:14 PM
To everyone who says our objective was to get Saddam out of power, and that attacking Iraq was justified because he was such a tyrant, please answer this question:
Why are there so many other tyrannical leaders elsewhere in the world, with regimes at least as dangerous as Saddam's (some far more dangerous), yet we do nothing to remove them from power?
Have you really been duped that easilly into believing that we waged this war for humanitarian reasons?
Posted by: Aaron | May 9, 2007 6:55:24 PM
Bla bla bla
Posted by: jason | May 9, 2007 6:33:51 PM
3,333 U.S. troops have been killed in a war over non-existent WMD's in Iraq. The Bush Administration cherry picked intelligence information and used scare tactics to justify rushing us into war. 3,333 brave Americans who enlisted to defend America lay in their graves, because the Bush Administration betrayed them by using them as pawns. This war is about providing access to the 2nd largest oil reserves in the world to U.S. oil corporations. If Saddam was using U.S. oil corporations instead of Russian and French oil corporations, he would still be in power. U.S. oil corporations would have used their influence over U.S. politicians that they bought with campaign contributions to protect him. Through the Bush Administration's incompetence and lack of forethought, they have handed the majority Shiite nation of Iraq over to the Iranians. My question is, how can anyone justify continued support of the Bush Administration?
Posted by: The Enlightener | May 9, 2007 6:33:47 PM
Bush, Rove, Cheney, Rummy should all be tried for all of their criminal acts.(and there are many)
This is worse President even Nixon was never this much of a buffoon. There are more corrupt gangsters sitting in the white house than seats.
Sadly, most if not all of this has all come at the expense of american people.
The only class of people not feeling the effects of this is the top 1 percent of the earners.
Bush Destoyed America
Posted by: Bush Destoyed America | May 9, 2007 6:30:40 PM
Like many people I know of Native Tribal Heritage...& I don't know all people of Native Tribal Heritage...I just sit back..& watch your crazy world getting more insane all the time...
Interesting to watch...but not that interesting...
Just passing through your world...it is what it is..and that is all it is...
Posted by: Shadow Dancer | May 9, 2007 6:22:19 PM
Over 2800 active duty service members have signed the Appeal for Courage petition. 59+% have been "in theater", 63% are enlisted. That is much more newsworthy that a well funded group buying a tv hit piece ad. Perhaps the lede should be "Troops want congressional support."
I vote with the troops
Posted by: flyover | May 9, 2007 6:17:57 PM
This General is a trader....We won that war buy taking out Saddam's army, if it wasn't for all the I hat America and I hate Bush redirect fueling the terrorist we would be out a long time ago. Ten years down the road you will thank this President,
God Bless our troops and America
Posted by: S Paulsen | May 9, 2007 6:16:34 PM
batiste is just bitter because he failed his troops while he was in command. his incompetence is well known amongst the troops. or maybe it's because he was passed up for promotion that he's looking for some payback.