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May 09, 2007 9:01 AM

In an act of defiance perhaps not seen since President Truman fired Gen. Douglas MacArthur, today the anti-war veterans group VoteVets.org,  which has been influential with Capitol Hill Democrats, is launching a half-million-dollar TV ad campaign featuring Maj Gen John Batiste (Ret.), former commanding general of the first infantry division in Iraq.

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The ad begins with a clip President George W. Bush saying "I have always said that I will listen to the requests of our commanders on the ground."

Batiste then appears, saying, "Mr. President, you did not listen. You continue to pursue a failed strategy that is breaking our great Army and Marine Corps. I left the Army in protest in order to speak out. Mr. President, you have placed our nation in peril. Our only hope is that Congress will act now to protect our fighting men and women."

The ads are targeted at Republican members of Congress seen to be wavering in their support for the war. Those targeted include GOP Senators Susan Collins (Maine), John Sununu (NH), John Warner (Virginia), and Norm Coleman (Minnesota), and GOP Representatives Mary Bono (Calif.), Phil English (Penn.), Randy Kuhl (NY), Jim Walsh (NY), Jo Ann Emerson (Missouri), Tim Johnson (Illinois), Mike Rogers (Michigan), Fred Upton (Michigan), and Mike Castle (Del.)

The ads conclude with Batiste saying, depending on the congressperson targeted, "Senator Collins, protect America, not George Bush."

Major General Paul Eaton (Ret.) and Gen. Wesley Clark (Ret.) will also appear in ads.

Meanwhile, at the VFW headquarters in DC later today, according to the ARMY TIMES, an "Appeal for Courage" petition signed by 2,700 current and former service members supporting continued U.S. combat operations in Iraq will be given to House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC.

"The petition was organized by two U.S. service members serving in Iraq, Navy Lt. Jason Nichols, serving in Baghdad, and Minnesota National Guard Staff Sgt. David Thul, who is conducting convoy operations in Iraq with the 34th Infantry Division," the newspaper reports.

What do you think?

-- jpt

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rewinn: "...why aren't they attacking Sweden..."

Give them time!

There was an article in the Christian Science Monitor, by James Brandon, back on December 6, 2005, regarding the growing unrest within the Muslim community of Malmo, Sweden. He reported: "Bosnian authorities arrested a Muslim Swede in Sarajevo in October for possession of explosives while Islamist websites published several inflammatory but unsubstantiated claims in late summer that a mujahideen training camp has been established in southern Sweden." He also reported: "...many Malmo Muslims are turning to increasingly radical forms of Islam..."

Posted by: James Danley | May 18, 2007 12:09:23 PM

If the problem is Islamic extremists who hate the freedom and licentiousness of the West, why aren't they attacking Sweden ... it not only has Christianity as a state religion but allows gays to marry!

There must be something MORE than mere "hatred for our ways." Something MORE. Oh, what could it be?

Posted by: rewinn | May 16, 2007 5:09:01 PM

Hey Real Deal, First as already pointed out I was not the one who wrote that, but I do agree with it. I think you read it wrong, I presume he is talking about people ignoring the threat that the islamic terrorists is a danger, just as the libs ignore Hitler.

Kathy on a little note the cut backs to the military happened under Clinton, not Reagan who built it up. from Carter's cutbacks.

Posted by: spock | May 14, 2007 1:13:00 PM

Oh Rabbit Blind as the whole Liberal Hate / Blame America First crew.

Yeah the Iraqi group did real good building the temples for Hussein. Ah but just like all the Libs you respond with name calling instead of fact.

So as far as prospering lets see Mike Moore, Pelosi, Gore, Kerry, Clinton must be making money since they all own stock in Halliburton. UMMM Hypocrisy!

Posted by: spock | May 14, 2007 12:03:24 PM

If anyone doubts the intent and the goal of the Islamic extremists, Google or Yahoo "Fouad Hussein." He is a Jordanian journalist and author of the book, "Al-Zarqawi: The Second Generation of Al Qaeda." Read about Fouad Hussein and what he reports and then judge for yourself as to whether the Islamic extremists' threat is real or imaginary.

It IS my opinion that the history books (unless the gates of Armageddon swing open before then) will be very kind to President Bush. He will one day be hailed as a great visionary. One who tried to convince the world of the threat that these Islamic extremists posed to the civilized world but failed. One who demonstrated tremendous courage in putting national security and the survival of Western Civilization before party politics. Laugh all you want! The day will come that every Bush-hater will recognize their hatred blinded them from the real truth. Unfortunately, another day will come! But for far too many, there won't be a day after!

Posted by: James Danley | May 14, 2007 9:30:56 AM

The petition signing at the VFW is very sad. Our soldiers want to be brave and they ARE brave. They go on fighting in the hopeless endeavour that Rove, Cheney, and their cronies have set upon them. This is the consequence of an administration that is AFRAID to ask of sacrifice from the country for this "war" (occupation). Supporting the troops means giving them 200,000 more young, healthy soldiers to "fight" door to door until the occupation weeds out all the insurgents. Or perhaps it is 300,000. Nevertheless, whatever the number is, THAT is what is needed, and THAT would take a draft.

But would it work?

If so, then instead of forcing our soldiers to endure this hopeless struggle, Bush should call for a draft or acknowledge the futility of the occupation and leave.

History repeats itself.

A. Patriot

Posted by: Afraid to say-because of patriot act | May 14, 2007 8:08:59 AM

Rabbit, I did send a comment this morning that has yet to be posted. There have been occasions that I have had to click onto "Feedback" and request that my comment be posted (i.e. one of my earlier comments and then the one this morning). I'll see if this is posted before the other one.

Posted by: James Danley | May 12, 2007 4:29:01 PM

Rabbit, I am looking forward to your comment, as soon as Political Punch posts it.

But earlier you stated: "George Bush was NOT elected in the sense that Ahmadi Nejad was elected. ie: By a clear majority vote in a democratic and transparent election. International observers confirmed this." I assume you are referring to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the President of Iran.
You are correct, President Bush did not win the popular vote in 2000. But our founding fathers, in drawing up our U. S. Constitution, decided against determining our President and Vice President by a national popular vote. They instead decided on a system which is now called the Electoral College. With this system, each state has it's own popular vote. While the names of the candidates appear on the ballot, the people of each state are actually choosing Electors (each political party nominates a slate of Electors). And it is these Electors who actually cast THEIR votes for President and Vice President.

If no candidate for President wins an absolute majority of the votes cast by the Electors, then the U. S. House of Representatives votes on the top three presidential candidates. Each state gets one vote. The states poll their respective House members and the candidate with the majority receives that state's vote (if there is a tie, then that state abstains). The House of Representatives will vote in this manner until one candidate emerges with a simple majority. That candidate becomes the new President of the United States.

If no candidate for Vice President wins an absolute majority of the votes cast by the Electors, then the U. S. Senate votes on the top two vice presidental candidates. Each Senator gets a vote. The vice presidential candidate that receives the simple majority is elected as the new Vice President of the United States. HOWEVER if there is a tie vote, then the sitting Vice President breaks the tie.

There have been 4 occasions (1824, 1876, 1888 and 2000) where the winner of the national popular vote did not become President. The 1824 election was determined by Congress (as referred to above).


Posted by: James Danley | May 12, 2007 10:11:52 AM

@Spock making excuses for his rapist.

" Halliburton,.........is pretty much the only American company big enough to handle rebuliding Iraq"

The Iraqi construction companies and etc who built Iraqi infrastructure in the first place and had made phenomenal progress since the last time the USA trashed the whole country, COULD AND SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE TASK OF REBUILDING. Then you silly son of sam, you would long since have given them enough money for the job and it would probably be at least half finished. They did it last time, there is history to prove I AM RIGHT!

Instead you silly deluded sheepy, as it is now where the money is pouring into Iraq (in concept anyway) in billions and no discerbable result is to be seen. Unless you happen to be a Halliburton accountant or executive.

Posted by: Rabbit | May 12, 2007 7:09:20 AM

Also Danley, I have posted an answer to your queries about US election fraud as seen by the world, but it seems to have been censored this hour past.

I guess I'll be taking another screen shot of this page now before logging off.

Posted by: Rabbit | May 12, 2007 6:58:47 AM

Real Deal, I am the one who wrote "Denying the fact..." not Spock. I admit to ignorance when it comes to understanding the point of your comment, especially your reference to Adolph Hitler. My saying that the Islamic extremists want to turn the world into their own Caliphate is not my opinion; and certainly not my words (nor is it my prediction). It is the words of these Islamic extremists. It is what they preach to their flock and it is what they teach their children! If history is such a friend of yours, as you claim, then you should understand that attempting to appease someone whose sole purpose in life is to bury you, will only result in your burial.

Posted by: James Danley | May 12, 2007 2:59:28 AM

"Denying the fact that Islamic extremists want to destroy America and the rest of the civilized world in order to form their own Caliphate is the real insanity" Quote from Spock

Your remind me of a young Adolf Hitler when his views on the Jews were emerging.

How about you try reading books instead of burning them ?

History is my friend, ignorance is yours

Posted by: Real Deal | May 12, 2007 1:32:23 AM

Before israel, all Arab countries wanted to do was sell the USA cheap oil.

I remember even in the 60s paying 25 cents a gallon.

Think about it.

It is time to dump AIPAC, and kick out all israeli/American nationals like Chertoff who support and are the real terrorist.

Posted by: Cliff Taylor | May 11, 2007 1:59:12 PM

Islam taking over the world? What a joke. People saying that know the penny has dropped on the BIG LIE. 95% Media is jewish owned and that IS the truth. Americans are dying for israel; 9/11 was for zionism.

When the war crime trials start it will be Wolfowitz, pearle, Zakheim, kissinger, blitzer and traitors to USA bush/cheney/rummey twisting in the wind.

Posted by: cliff taylor | May 11, 2007 1:53:32 PM

Sorry Ken, I meant to say you could not of said it better not James in my last post. So Great post Ken

Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 10:57:54 AM

Could not say it better James. Don't you love they keep bringing up Halliburton, but they leave out a few facts, one that this company is pretty much the only American company big enough to handle rebuliding Iraq and they sub contract alot. The only other company in the World is in France, so they do they want to give jobs to the French or do they want US citizens to have jobs. On another note most of their Lib leaders including Micheal Moore hold stocks in Halliburton. Hypocrisy at its best.

Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 10:53:18 AM

Denying the fact that Islamic extremists want to destroy America and the rest of the civilized world in order to form their own Caliphate is the real insanity. Democrats flexing their newly acquired muscle in an attempt to micro-manage the war in Iraq is the real insanity. Calling for the immediate withdrawl of our troops from Iraq -- regardless of the consequences that have been forecast should we leave Iraq prematurely (even the Iraq Study Group Report warned: "If we leave and Iraq descends into chaos, the long-range consequences could eventually require the United States to return.") -- is the real insanity. Attempting to roll back the clock and reverting to a September 10, 2001 mindset is the real insanity.

Your hatred for President George W. Bush has blinded you from the real truth: The Islamic extremists want us dead because we refuse to convert not only to Islam, but to their extremist interpretation of Islam. It's that simple! And they are willing to kill anyone, even other Muslims, who stand in their way. President Bush did NOT cause this. These Islamic extremists have been killing Americans for over 20 years. But it is President Bush who is doing everything he possibly can -- fully within the powers given to him by the U. S. Constitution and Congress -- in order to prevent any future attacks against the homeland by these Islamic extremists. Al Qaeda DECLARED Iraq as their primary battleground. Cutting and running from Iraq will only give al Qaeda the victory they are looking for. We must defeat the Islamic extremists wherever they are! It is better to take the battle to them, rather than wait until they return to Main Street U. S. A.

Thank you President Bush for your courage in standing up against the Islamic extremists; and remaining resolute in your efforts to defeat them wherever they are!

Posted by: James Danley | May 11, 2007 10:42:18 AM

Should we really be surprised that Bush hasn't listened to the military? Nothing he's done has been conducive to their well-being. How much of the money appropriated in all of the spending bills actually went to the military? How much went to DHS? What about Halliburton? Blackwater? So on and so forth...but the point remains; a lot of Americans are already awake to what's happening, and a lot more are waking up everyday. I just hope these people know what they can expect when EVERYBODY in this country has had enough of their greed, hate, lies, and war. I like to think of myself as a pacifist, but every person has their limits. I rest assured at night knowing I'm not the only person that feels that way. Give sensibility and intelligence a chance. Support our troops with positive thoughts and prayers, and hope for their safe arrival home. Don't support the idiots that are allowing their deaths for the sake of POWER. That's what it comes down to...Power. The bestsolution I can think of: don't give it to them. Don't let them have power over you. All they want is your heart and mind. Keep those for yourself.

Posted by: Ken | May 11, 2007 10:29:44 AM

Another note those international observers were asked t come in 2004 not 2000, also are they not the same ones who said that Iraq under Hussein had open elections and also Venezula. They only think Elections are honest when a Dictator or Socialist wins. Also please explain the 2000 people who are no longer alived that voted for Gore in NJ and the 2500 in Washington State?? All Democrats.. This is a Fact look it up before condeming it.

Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 9:23:55 AM

Don't you anti-bush people get it, you are falling for propaganda from Soros and his liberal puppets. The Libs (and that is all the Democrats now, since they threw out their last true Democrat in Conn. Think one thing about Florida Jeb Bush was a highly popular Governor in Florida, do you think his brother would lose their?? Gore wanted only to recount specific votes and NOT count the military votes, he asked not to count them by the way. So Libs get over it, maybe if you used all this hatred you have for a man whos honorable and put it towards the terrorist, this war would be over..

Posted by: spock | May 11, 2007 9:19:09 AM

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