Political Punch

bones - Well I will go back to this one. Did you ever here of typos?

All you have is insults, all I have is facts, interesting don't you think?

There was a book (I do not want to advertise a book here, not sure if the moderators would like) I read awhile back explaining the Path to Marxism, but you can just look at Chavez - Wanting to create a state religion that he is in charge of, taking over the oil fields, creating a false enemy (US), taking wealth, socialized medicine.

Now what do the Libs want? The only difference is their chosen enemy is Global Warming (30 years ago it was the ice age).

Oh by the way it was Moveon (Soros) that told them not to debate on Fox, they were at first until they got a call. Please note this debate was sponsored also by the Black Caucus.

So keep it up, want anymore facts? You should stay in the medlab.

"So all of this is important issues," spock? You've obviously learned English as a second language, because you certainly don't know its grammar. Is the argument you're trying (poorly) to make that the first step on the road to perdition is to take away morals and then we'll all be socialists? Please spare us your warped conspiracy theories!

Steve - those are the base morals (minus tax cuts) of man, they are the most important. The first step to socialism is to remove morals. As far as the tax cuts, well that is what strengthened our economy.

So all of this is important issues.

survivor1962 - I guess you think MSNBC is truthful?

First alot of things are Black and White, Wrong or Right, Free or Socialism.

Different opinions do not make the grey, Like the sky is above us is Fact. But libs would want to explain that it can not be above us.

Fox gives more views then all the other cable new shows put together.

Tumbleweedin - They hate us no matter what we do, ok Islamis have been at war with Christianity and Jews since time began. So they would of hate us no matter what we do.

The problem is not that we help out around the world it is that we never finish what we do. When we help Afghan free themselves from Russia we then turned our back and allowed it to become a haven for terrorists.

If we turn our back on Iraq it too will become a haven for terrorists just like it was under Hussein (He might not of supported Al Qeada but he did support other terror organizations)

I would hate to inform you most countries hate us because of our unique freedoms.

So every libs answer is to stop supporting Isreal. I think not.

There is not a news channel out there, Fox, CNN, ABC, etc. that does not slant stories with their own spin/agenda. Anyone that thinks that whatever news channel they are watching or listening to is only telling facts with no personal agenda/bias is kidding themselves, this includes NPR as well before anyone claims they have no bias. Listen to the same news story on each and it can be alarming on how different the same story can come across.

MarineCorps dad - I had to laugh at this: "I'm certain today's Democrats would regard the Democrats of the 1940's as hardcore conservatives." You should crack a history book now and then. Truman supported socialized medicine - the same kind of medical system the labour party was installing in Britain at that time. He also supported a massive federal housing program, and his tax policies - he believed in a "poor man's tax policy" soaked the rich. His last year in office, to pay for the war, he asked for an income tax increase. At the end of World War II, the tax rate on the top income bracket was 94 percent. Hey, this is the kind of conservative democratic stuff I like. A 94 percent income tax on the top bracket, to pay for the war, would bring the war to a screeching halt.

Fox News should stick to what they do best Propaganda. they are not a news channel, why should the Democrats give them any legitimacy? let them host the republicans.

spock: Don't go into shock. But it IS our foreign policy that gets the USA into a lot trouble with other countries. I know we help out a lot around the world. Do you know how much money we GIVE Israel every year? The pint is that the terrorists don't hate America because we are free. They do it because we have stuck our nose where it does not belong. And I don't see how it has helped in any way shape or form. We have already met the objectives we were told the move into Ieaq was all about. NO WMDs. Saddam is gone. Time to come home. Let them settle their problems. We did not go into Iraq for an endless occupation. You can't fight terrorism. Terrorism will exist as long as there is a reason for it. So we are swinging at air. We are not at war with a country...but an idea. That can change.

The Fox "news" network is absurd to anyone who actually makes the effort to think for themselves. Of course, those that need to have opinions and filtered facts spoonfed to them, love it. They don't have to think and can spout the same tired partisan rhetoric about liberal dems, Iraq, etc. Fox appeals to the lowest common denominator - those that only see in black and white, have little respect for those that are different than them and are shocking in their emotional, hate-filled beliefs.

Anyone who believes the most important issues are abortion, gay marriage, gays in the military, and making tax cuts permanent is completely out of touch with what is really ailing this country and should revisit their priorities.

Mitt Romney's resume crushes all other candidates on both sides. As governor he turned around the mess in Massachusetts, he conquered the private sector and doesn't need to work another day in his life, and after 9/11 he served our country well and saved the 2002 Winter Olympics for us all. If you want to know how to protect the American people from terrorists, just ask Mitt how he protected the athletes and spectators of the world just a few months after 9/11 during the Olympics. No one could turn around this country better than Mr. Romney. Even a caveman/cavewoman or Elmer Fudd could cast votes in the senate, or be a mayor. How come so many of the candidates look like Elmer Fudd?

Tumbleweedin - stop pushing Ron Paul, How can anyone support someone that Blames America from the Left (which is all of them) or from the right. Sorry Can not do it, I do not care, I blame the countries that support the terrorist, not the Victim.

The U.S. has done more good for the World then any other country, whether from the left or right. So please!

Hey Chuck.Dallas maybe Cheney likes it because they do not insult him or the President they just report the news.

Hey I will give kudos to ABC too, because since they got rid of the neo-fascist from that day show their integrity has gone up.

Now even if (thats a big if) Fox news was right-wing bias, If they get elected they are not going to represent 75% of America??

Maybe you think Fox is rightwing bias because it is centered and anything that does not spout the lies of Soro's is a Right-Wing Conspiracy.
So JFK must of been right-winged, Truman also, Interesting, wow did not know that. MLK too, cool !!!

judeluke2000 - good questions that the Lib Dems will never fully answer though. just look at the answers from Paul Holsinger.

1 - Definition of Partial Birth - is the killing of a viable child at time of birth see Legal Definition -
Legal Definition : An abortion in which the person performing the abortion, deliberately and intentionally vaginally delivers a living fetus until, in the case of a head-first presentation, the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother, or, in the case of breech presentation, any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother, for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus; and performs the overt act, other than completion of delivery, that kills the partially delivered living fetus

2 - Marriage should only be between a Woman and Man - It is the basis moral of our civilization - most religions allow an annulments if a spouse does not want a child and a divorce is allowed. Now the reason why this is a major issue with the libs is Socialism, the more you destroy morals in people it is easier to become socialist just look at theirs ways - Clinton and Obama saying 45 million people without healthcare so we should have Socialixzed healthcare, (Please point out the 45 million, note take out the 20 million plus illegals please)

3 - You are either Pro Abortion or Anti Abortion, the pro-choice is a marketing ploy to help so they can get woman to say it has something to do with there invidual rights. Kerry is a bad example point because he changes his mind as the wind blows.

4 - Clintons' Don't ask Don't tell is the best policy for all, on all aspects, why first of all is it the militarys business if you are gay or straight. First straight members are not allowed sex while on duty or on base so what is the issue. They should embrace this, do straight males go around crying out I' Straight. This policy allows all to be comfortable. The reason again they are against is the moral issue, they want to kill morals.

5 - It is proven that Tax Decreases increases Tax Revenues, and raising taxes decreases revenues. Look at what happened after the Bush Tax cuts, Goverment Revenue went up, The only problem is the Libs and Libs in Republican Clothing increased spending alongside. If taxes get increased unemployment will go up from it almost 0% unemployment rate now. (Look at France 20%+ unemployment and they pay 70 %in taxes)

Cumulative Answer - The Libs want to break down the morals and prosperity of this country to make like Chavez's Country - Rule to become Socialist -
1 - Make People dependent on you and you control them.
2 - Teach modified history
3 - Destroy Religion (Gay Marriage / Praying / Abortion)
4 - Make up phony cause (Hitler did it with the Jews and the Libs today do it with Global Warming)
5 - Racial Divide / Social Divide

If you do not believe me Listen to Clinton / Obama / Kucinich -

Do you ever hear them say Liberty NO, So I say No to Libs.

Describing FOX as biased and while not admitting thast the others are extreme left is certainly a JOKE. Fox may lean right but they do give both sides unlike CNN (Clinton News Network) and the others ABC, CBS and NBC are so left that it's silly. The plain fact of the matter is they are cowards for not wanting to stand up to questions they get.
If the Repubs had suggested that they would not attend a debate because it was hosted by CNN, ABC, NBC or CBS they would be slammed hard for running away from the isssues. These coward Dems should also....if they can't take the heat of a debate then they aren't up to the task of President.....a much harder job than fielding questions.

You got questions? RON PAUL got answers.
Leading in just about every poll and has over twice as many YouTube subscribers as all the rest of the republin candidates combined, and more than twice as many as the next runner up Obama. Give Ron Paul a good look folks. GOOGLE his sites.

It's the best decision the candidates have made. FOX NEWS is neither fair nor balanced. A clue should be the fact that Cheney likes the network. Maybe, just maybe, the boycott will bring more attention to the bias of the network.

Paul Holsinger, thank you for taking the time to respond to the 5 questions posed. I would only add to your response to question "5" that every tax dollar you save for millionaires is a dollar that you take from the average earner. When it comes to wages, it takes many average earners to support a millionaire.

Democrats HAVE been slowly sliding in one direction for decades. I'm certain today's Democrats would regard the Democrats of the 1940's as hardcore conservatives. I attended a liberal college for a period - and it was one of the best educational experiences I've had but, there was only one problem with the way the art of "argument" was taught. It seem to be implied that you could win a debate without knowing what you were talking about. And you can. Unfortunately for some people, Fox News will put guest's views to the test and fairly challenge them on their thinking or knowledge . Fox News has a very good way of exposing any flaws in the views someone has. I would agree that Fox "leans to the right", but I appreciate how they typically won't let guests speak incessantly without a challenge which is something usually not done on other networks.

Everybody should boycott FIXed NEWS. I mean FOX NEWS. What a joke. The National Enquirer of TV journalism.

Mrs. Clinton and Barry Hussein Obama cannot function outside of their scripted bubbles.

Not that I ever could conceive I would be saying these words, but I agree with Kucinich.
The concerns of the voters should be the real issue, not how cool and tough a Democratic candidate looks to those who dislike Fox News. You should be willing to stand up for your views, even if the questions are biased. Do the candidates think they won't have to face questions from Republican leaders or conservative journalists if they get elected President?
It's early on, but if they keep up with stupid games like this, i'll discount them from any vote consideration of mine.

1. Please describe dilation and extraction, often called partial-birth abortion. Then please tell me why you support this method of abortion and disagree with the U.S. Supreme Court, and the last 14 years of Congress who voted to ban this procedure.

Let me put this one simply. Life is a choice. Giving birth is a choice. If you legislate the medical profession away from this choice then the result of a woman choosing to end her pregnancy without their help is going to be a lot uglier then a partial birth procedure.

2. Why do you think the union of a man and a woman, which results in new life, is equal to the union of two men or two women. Is what your mother and father did in giving you life equal to what two men or two women do?

I don't see why birth should be the defining aspect of a marriage. Many heterosexual couples marry and don't have kids, would you have their marriages annulled? Marriage needs to be defined by love, commitment, and it's function in our society which is far and beyond simply providing children.

3. If you personally oppose abortion (Kerry) why do you support it. What other rights "found" in the constitution do you personally oppose?

Nobody is pro abortion. It's a choice between two things that are both undesirable.

4. Why do you believe "don't ask don't tell" should be eliminated and men and women should be allowed to be openly gay in the military?

Because it doesn't work. Ignoring something has never been a solution.

5. With people struggling to pay their bills, why do you support a tax increase?

There's one way to cut taxes and that's to spend less. You can't possibly and responsibly ask the government not to raise taxes when it's spending like it is in Iraq. People need to stop crying about symptoms and start posing solutions to the real problems (spending). The request to lower taxes or keep taxes the same should only be made when we meet or fall under budget. That's not happening right now.

Fox News is not news. Nor is it newsworthy. It's a political mouth piece. Boycotting Fox is on a par with boycotting a debate on the Comedy Channel.

Sadly, all of the networks are biased in one way or another. Fox is no more or less biased toward Republicans than Cnn is to Democrats. There is no Network news programs that are unbiased. Therefore, the Democrats are showing their immature side by boycotting a network they disagree with. American voters watch all of the channels. You don't see Republcans boycotting CNN.

What preceived bias? Foxs news is biased. Anybody who whatches more than one news channel on a regular basis can figure that out. Fox News should be called Fox Commentary. Before I belive anything I see of Fox News I have to see the same story on annother network, and read it in print somewhere else. The reason why Fox is so popular is that boobus America likes to be told what to think, instead of of having to think for themselves. Just give me that facts, I'll make up my mind by myself. I don't need to be spoonfed. Any democratic canidate that goes on Fox News will not get my vote, because it would mean that they're stupid. We already have one mental midget in the White House, and as far as I'm concerned that has not worked out so hot.

Why doesn't Fox just have Rush Limbaugh as commentator so the country can see just how biased Fox is. Of course that would expose them for what they are, and we couldn't have that could we?

Fox News = mouthpiece of GoP...

Now you know why Bush defeated Gore and Kerry, same Democratic weakness, choose not to debate because it's being co-hosted by Fox News Channel, they continue to show how weak their core principals really are

Fox News is the mouthpiece of the GoP...

What fear is it that's causing the democratic canidates to back away from this challenge? Perhaps it's time to put on the armor and confront the dragon in it's den. Fight for what you believe in and fight for the American People. They need guidance. Let it be known that your not backing down from the bully who wants to twist your words for their benefit, which is to deceive the American people into a false twisted idealogy.

More horse excreta from the mainstream media, libs hopefuls! FoxNews is biased, blah, blah, blah! If you think ABC, MSNBC, NY Times, LA Times, Atlanta Constitutional, etc., are un-biased in their reporting (FAIL TO REPORT...these so-called un-biased entities did a bang up job in reporting a conflict of interest arrangement between Diane Feinstein and her hubby over her role on the Sentate Subcommittee on Military Construction...NOT...IGNORED by the Drive-By Media) then I've got some really inexpensive land to sell ya in Malibu, Calyfornication! The Dems are nothing more than sheep wandering around looking for someone's else cheap weeds to eat!

Here are some questions I would ask the Democratic candidates:

1. Please describe dilation and extraction, often called partial-birth abortion. Then please tell me why you support this method of abortion and disagree with the U.S. Supreme Court, and the last 14 years of Congress who voted to ban this procedure.

2. Why do you think the union of a man and a woman, which results in new life, is equal to the union of two men or two women. Is what your mother and father did in giving you life equal to what two men or two women do?

3. If you personally oppose abortion (Kerry) why do you support it. What other rights "found" in the constitution do you personally oppose?

4. Why do you believe "don't ask don't tell" should be eliminated and men and women should be allowed to be openly gay in the military?

5. With people struggling to pay their bills, why do you support a tax increase?

These are just a few question I wish the democrats would answer.

I don't think this is about avoiding tough questions. You have to answer tough questions no matter who runs the debate. This is really about dishing Fox News.

It is true that Fox has a huge audience, but that audience is fairly defined. The Fox audience is looking to have their own views validated. Unfortunately, those views are generally narrow-minded and mean; and nearly always Republican. Why would any Democratic candidate waste their time on Fox trying to convince an audience that doesn't want to be convinced. Besides that, the treatement of Democtratic and Republican candidate will be so lopsided in favor of the Republicans that it would be laughable if it was not so disgusting. I would love to see a complete blackball of the entire network by a Democratic president and congress.

I seriously doubt that the Republican candidates will boycott CNN, ABC News, CBS, etc. The three mentioned agencies are very liberal in their reporting of the news. ABC was the worst in blaiming President Bush for the disaster after Hurricane Katrina. The journalists seemed to forget there was a "HURRICANE!!!" Any person who wants to be president of the U.S. needs to listen to all the people.

I think it's very true thats all you hear when you turn to fox news is thier bashing a democrat and i think what would be the point to even go that route fox news is for republicans not us.

Anyone who says Fox News is fair to Democrats is retarded. I try to give Fox a chance but every time I watch it they are interrupting Democrats, telling them to shut up, fabricating inflammitory headlines, turning off their microphones, and not following up on the credibility of their sources because it serves their agenda. There is also a strong case that they force fed the public misinterpreted info on the 2000 election intentionally...

...That being said I think it would set a good example for the Dems to go into the lions den and verbally win over the viewers who have been brainwashed. I wouldn't have boycotted it just because the odds were against you.

If they can't take the heat in a debate, how are they going to handle the position of President of the U.S.? A true candidate worth his/her weight can handle any situation at any time.

Fox News is the most popular cable news company in the U.S. I find it very odd that presidential hopefuls would boycott this station. Given Fox News popularity - you think the democratic candidates would take advantage of this venue to try and swing some centrist votes to their side. Any candidate who ignores this venue shows he/she could care less about what many Americans think.

I find it interesting how many Democrats seem to believe that free speech means we are free to say anything that agrees with them, but that anyone who questions or challenges their doctrine is somehow not worthy of their presence. The boycott of the Fox debate is censorship, pure and simple, and is a very troubling indication of how little those who have decided to boycott the Fox debate care about the basic foundations of this country.

Personally, Fox News' content appears extremely right-winged in presentation. While in Australia, the Australians did not like to watch Fox News. And an Australian owns the network. The Australians I was with spoke of the news content as being too pro-American -- not enough Aussie news. I used to watch Fox News exclusively. I stopped when I realized that it was a bit slanted.

Yes, I think the Dems should boycott Foxnews. Foxnews is like watching Reality TV - only it is a nightmare. Most of the reporters and anchors have an IQ level of that of a 4th grader. I have never heard a really thought out question come from their mouths. Fox News constantly supports such organizations as Swift Boat Veterans. They defend G Bush when it is so obvious he is lying. I bet there are not many of Fox News Personnel who have served in the military. I say DRAFT THEM ALL - so at least they will know something about what they speak of

Pat Berry

I find it interesting how many Democrats seem to believe that free speech means we are free to say anything that agrees with them, but that anyone who questions or challenges their doctrine is somehow not worthy of their presence. The boycott of the Fox debate is censorship, pure and simple, and is a very troubling indication of how little those who have decided to boycott the Fox debate care about the basic foundations of this country.

My first inclination was to applaud the candidates who chose to boycott the Fox News (and what is the Congressional Black Caucus doing at Fox?) debate. However, disheartening as it is, a lot of people get their news from Fox. I find Fox News biased toward the ignorant and shrill, rather than the right. That said, a candidate participating in the debate might even pick up some votes. So go, debate, you never know.

Diane Marinelli

As a faithful viewer of Fox News Sunday, I can say that Brit Hume, Marla, and Bill Krystal are all conservatives who have relentlessly supported the fabricated Iraq War which we all know was based on lies.
The only speaker at the "round table" that grasps the two-face lies of Pres. Bush is Juan Williams.
So, the point I am spotlighting is that with such a conservative bias which is so against the majority opinion as attested by the Nov. 7th, 2007 votes, how can any fairness arise from any topic debated at Fox News Sunday?
Adam of CA.

Rich humor, indeed. The dems see anything less than the extreme left wing bias of cbs/nbc/abc as offensive and somehow unfair to them.

Fox is so blatantly right-wing, there's no reason for Democrats to take part in a debate on that channel. Of course, now that the shoe is on the other foot, Fox is screaming foul. With their "Fair and balanced" slogan, the network has taken cynicism to new heights--or depths. With cries of bias, the best solution would be to hold any debates on PBS.

At least Joe Biden and Dennis Kucinich have the courage to face the questions from the other side; very ashamed of the other Democratic candidates who want to boycott because of bias. They will be the president over the entire country, not just those of us that vote for them.

All of the news organizations have a bias, including FOX and ABC. Anyone who makes an effort not to be biased can see it. It is amusing to see the various reporters at FOX and ABC sitting around discussing bias on their respective networks, patting themselves on the backs, and congratulating each other on being "fair and balanced".

Fox news is nothing more than a republican propaganda outlet. Tough questioning is not a problem. The real problem is in the way Fox will take the footage and vandalize it for future programming. Why should any Democrat or Independent give them the chance to look legitimate when you know in advance what they are really up to.

Vic i agree with I do not like his views, but at least he has the backbone to stand for the views, and not waffle. got to give credit when credit do.

SGA - I hope others that get their instructions from Soros do start talking here, cause the first rule he say is to say your a conservative or independent and then knock the conservatives.

There are two news stations I watch that is ABC (more now since this week) and Fox. But for this post I will talk about Fox, I find Fox has a more open view then MSNBC who ask candidates stupid questions.

Next how much is learned from any of these debates, you got 8 -12 people answering serious questions in 1 minute parts. I think the debates shoud be multiple and each about major issues affecting America, Taxes, Defense, IMMIGRATION and so forth, not if a candidate would keep Rove on like MSNBC thought was an important question to ask.

I sometimes wonder if MSNBC should have to report their debatse as donations to the DNC.

A fair debate cycle would be each major Channel have a debate, CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, CNN - the other like MSNBC is I think a subsidiary of NBC but I could be wrong.

They should have the Debate on MSNBC and let our Vice President ask questions, that would be interesting :)

Fox News may be controversial to some, but it is a major network with huge audience of Americans that follow politics. If candidates are afraid to answer their questions, then they are not qualified for an office that has many tough decisions and lots of critics.

The more democrats boycott the debate the more I lose respect for them. Yes, Fox News is biased, however one sometimes has to go on the other team's turf to make their claim. Who knows, they might actually win some vosters.

I think Democrates should boycott Fox News. Fox News and WSJ used words like "us and them" to discribe or refer to Repblicans and Democrate. How can a news organization boldly pick side when they should simply report the news facts. Just check the headline of the same news item and see how Fox water down the title when the headline is unfavorable to the Bush Administration and the so called conservatives.

I think Edwards, Clinton, Obama, Dodd and Richardson should be ashamed of themselves - Fox had an absolutely brilliant debate of the Republican candidates and I (for once) agree w/Biden and Dodd - they are correct that if your afraid of FOX how can you possibly run the country - shame, shame, shame on them - hopefully, the top tier will change because of this!

Fox news oversimplifies their questions and how they present topics. It's like conservative=good, liberal=bad. And then they try to give it a conservative or liberal label.

I hate it when they do that. I'm more concerned about the issues and maybe some Grey area in between which can be acceptable to both. But that never happens.

So I don't blame the Dems for not being part of this.

Why Democratic campaign managers would forgo their candidates appearing on the most popular news network in America is troubling. What do they have to hide? Is it good for a candidate to appear only at debates they find nonthreatening? I'm sure many voters will be able to read between the lines. Hey Democrat candidates, grow a spine!

I am not a democrat, most likely, if you must label me, a conservative independent with an open mind. I can't watch Fox News longer than 30 seconds without the urge to run to the toilet to wretch.

FOX NEWS staffers ask serious questions of ALL candidates. It seems democrats do not like answering tough questions and so label FOX NEWS as right wing. One needs to go no further than the recent MSNBC debate that Chris Matthews oversaw to get an idea of what a really biased, meaningless debate is like.

The Kucinich has it right

I can't believe it, but I actually agree with Dennis Kucinich. I don't like his politics, but at least he's willing to defend them.

I don't have a problem with journalist boycotting debated based on biases, but they need to be consistent. If they boycott a debate based on a perceived right-wing bias, they should also boycott those with a perceived left-wing bias. If not, it seems like they are just avoiding the tough questions.

First Please point out where Fox news is Right Winged?

Why do the Republican debate on MSNBC without a problem, who is definitely Left Winged?

Are these dems afraid of true questions, not questions like whats your favorite song? If they are afraid of Foxnews, How are they going to deal with our enemies and other countries? if God forbid they become President?

It shows that they are Racist, that they are in the pocket of George Soros, and do not represent the U.S., because that Soro's website pushed them to boycott.

So Dems (Libs) take money from China, PLO and other non-Americans like George Soros. Where is their allegiance? You got to wonder?