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Edwards takes on Coulter
June 27, 2007 8:01 AM
....ELIZABETH Edwards, that is.
Last night on MSNBC's "Hardball," which featured conservative provacateur Ann Coulter as a guest, Elizabeth Edwards -- the wife of presidential candidate And former Sen. John Edwards, D-NC -- called in and challenged the author to stop making personal attacks. Watch the video HERE.
It was pretty compelling:
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Chris Matthews: You know who's on the line? Somebody to respond to what you said Edwards yesterday morning -- Elizabeth Edwards. She wanted to call in today we said she could. Elizabeth Edwards go on the line you're on the line with Ann Coulter
Elizabeth Edwards: Hello, Chris.
CM: You wanna say something directly to the person who's with me?
EE: I'm calling you … in the south when we -- when someone does something that displeases us, we wanna ask them politely to stop doing it. Uh - I'd like to ask Ann Coulter -- if she wants to debate on issues, on positions -- we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today -- um but uh it's quite another matter for these personal attacks that the things she has said over the years not just about John but about other candidates -- it lowers our political dialogue precisely at the time that we need to raise it. So I want to use the opportunity … to ask her politely stop the personal attacks.
Ann Coulter: OK, so I made a joke -- let's see six months ago -- and as you point out they've been raising money off of it for six months since then.
CM: This is yesterday morning, what you said about him.
AC: I didn't say anything about him actually either time.
EE: Ann, you know that's not true. And once more its been going on for sometime.
AC: I don't mind you trying to raise money. I mean it's better this than giving $50,000 speeches to the poor.
EE: I'm asking you
AC: Just to use my name on the Web pages…
EE: I'm asking you politely…
AC: … but as for a debate with me, um yeah, sure. Yeah, we'll have a debate
EE: I'm asking you politely to stop personal attacks.
AC: How bout you stop raising money on the Web page then?
EE: It didn't start it did not
AC: No you don't have cause I don't mind
EE: It did not start with that you had a column a number of years ago
AC: OK, great the wife of a presidential candidate is calling in asking me to stop speaking
CM: Let her finish the point...
AC: You're asking me to stop speaking stop writing your columns, stop writing your books.
CM: OK, Ann. Please.
AC: OK
EE: You wrote a column a couple years ago which made fun of the moment of Charlie Dean's death, and suggested that my husband had a bumper sticker on the back of his car that said ask me about my dead son. This is not legitimate political dialogue.
AC: That's now three years ago
EE: It debases political dialogue. It drives people away from the process. We can't have a debate about issues if you're using this kind of language.
(Audience member yells something.)
AC: Yeah why isn't John Edwards making this call?
CM: Well do you want to respond and we'll end this conversation?
EE: I haven't talked to John about his call.
AC: This is just another attempt for –
EE: I'm making this call as a mother. I'm the mother of that boy who died. My children participate -- these young people behind you are the age of my children. You're asking them to participate in a dialogue that's based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues and I don't think that's serving them or this country very well.
(Audience applauds.)
CM: Thank you very much
Elizabeth Edwards. Do you want to -- you have all the time in the world to respond.
AC: I think we heard all we need to hear. The wife of a presidential candidate is asking me to stop speaking. No.
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Hmmmm. That's not what I heard Elizabeth Edwards ask Coulter to do, though Coulter is certainly right that the Edwards presidential campaign has used her incendiary comments about him -- she essentially called him a "f-ggot" -- to raise cash and gin up liberal activists.
I assume most of us would agree that making light of someone's dead son is beyond the pale.... But what do you think?
-- jpt
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The news organizations need to step up and "do the right thing." Stop giving the Ann Coulters of the world a forum. Stop the hate filled speech, and promote debate on issues and ideas. Healthy debate is necessary, but hate filled speech is devisive, and will lead to horrible actions, I believe. The networks need to lead the way, and place intelligent, educated, articulate, and calm people on the air.
Posted by: RJA | Jun 28, 2007 10:17:39 AM
I can't help wondering if Ms. Edwards will also place a call to Bill Moyers for his comments i.e., he wishes Dick Cheney had been killed by terrorists or any of the other liberal pundants who have free reign and can say any hateful thing they want as long as it denegrates conservatives, Christians, etc. Will she place a call to Rosie O'Donnell, surely nobody is more hateful than that women. I'm waiting to hear those calls from Ms. Edwards.
Posted by: Carol Embry | Jun 28, 2007 10:04:08 AM
Ann Coulter has a right to air her opinions, I agree.
Ann Coulter is also a vile, hateful idiot. She proves it every time she opens her mouth. The more idiots talk, the more they show just how idiotic and ridiculous they are. What kind of person would take Ann Coulter seriously these days? Who would think that she's a "good American" or an "intelligent person?" Why would anyone give creedance or validity to one word that she says?
There was a classic line in Star Wars where Han Solo called Ben Kenobi a fool. Kenobi wisely asked, "Who's the bigger fool, the fool or the fool who follows him?"
We can easily ask the same thing about those who follow Ann Coulter.
Posted by: Windy | Jun 28, 2007 9:14:07 AM
Saw Elizabeth Edwards interviewed this morning. She compared her request to stop the personal attacks to the approach in the South to politely insist that people not engage in bigotted racial speech. It took many years in the South to make such comments unacceptable in polite conversation by Southern whites. Maybe she's on to something with her polite, but very public request to Colter, in an attempt to change the tenor of political debate.
Posted by: Eamon | Jun 28, 2007 9:03:23 AM
Wow! A democrat demeans a republican and it's entertainment (see "Bill Maher"), but if a republican demeans a democrat...STOP THE PRESSES! WE HAVE A VILE CREATURE HERE WHO IS PREVENTING ANY MEANINGFUL POLICITAL DISCOURSE!!!! Please. Let's face it. Present day politics is not much more than another form of show business. And like other entertainers, pols are going to be jabbed, insulted and otherwise verbally abused. It's the reality of our time. The only true misdeed here is that neither side will draw attention to the name-callers in their own camp; as if they don't exist. And sadly, this week, that includes the left-leaning GMA. How about a little balanced reporting there, guys. You're sure making it sound like there's no republican bashing going on out there. (We know better.)
Posted by: William Kaschub | Jun 28, 2007 8:36:38 AM
Chris Matthews gave airtime to Coulter,improving his own ratings. Coulter needs anger management classes, something is definately loose upstairs. Get help girl, there is still hope for you with the proper medication. I think shaking those long locks excessively has rattled your limited brain cells. Mrs. Edwards has exhibited, once again, what a classy lady she is by confronting this nut case Coulter and maintaining her dignity while doing so.
Posted by: Donna | Jun 28, 2007 8:36:01 AM
The best way to deal with the Ann Coulters and the Paris Hiltons of the world is to IGNORE THEM...They are just flip sides of the same coin:
Coulter is a vituperous, vicious long-haired skinny blond with nothing of real substance to say, and...
Paris Hilton is a vapid, vacuuous long-haired skinny blond with nothing of real substance to say.
SO WHY IS THE "NEWS" MEDIA SO GULLIBLE AS TO GIVE THEM SO MUCH AIR TIME??? I resent it, not just for the time it wastes and the stomach churning it brings on at the time of the broadcast, but the fact that it makes it necessary for me to take time after the fact to tell you, and other outlets, what should be obvious to you.
I have always been a Good Morning America viewer...I love Diane Sawyer, and Robin, Chris, and Sam, et al are people I enjoy sharing my morning with. However, I get the feeling that your producers must be twenty-somethings, given the musical guests you book for your concert series, etc...Do you really think that high-school aged kids, or even twenty-somethings, are watching even quasi-news shows at 8:30 in the morning???...NOT!!!...You might do better with musicians/groups that we Boomers grew up with (and I don't mean Barry Manilow)...As it is now, I generally turn you off during the last half hour, unless your giving consumer tips.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Posted by: Meline Baron | Jun 28, 2007 7:51:24 AM
If Ann Coulter had responded to Elizabeth Edwards in a professional manner, it might have been an interesting debate. Instead, Coulter was smug and condescending. Asking why Edwards' husband hadn't been the one to call and saying that Mrs. Edwards was telling her to stop writing (which she wasn't -- she just wanted the personal attacks to stop) indicate that Coulter wasn't interested in dialogue, she just wanted to cement her self-styled image as a celebrity. That's not journalism. Political commentary and debate should be on the issues, not on nasty, self-serving cracks about the candidates.
Posted by: Peggy | Jun 28, 2007 7:27:17 AM
Giving Ann Coulter airtime is like giving a Klansman airtime. Having Ann Coulter as a guest on your show speaks to your qualities as a human being and how you want to be perceived by the world.
She makes fun of dead children and 9/11 widows. Chris Matthews should apologize for even booking her -- just like the comedy club owner apologized after the Michael Richards outburst.
Having said all of that, think it *is* newsworthy that she is paid to speak at a Republican events. That tells me where they stand as a party.
Posted by: Kevo | Jun 28, 2007 4:16:00 AM
Let me see if I can do something to purge the taint here. I'm a conservative Republican. Now you can label me "religious right" and put me in my box.
Elizabeth Edwards is right.
Ann Coulter is wrong.
The whole thing is disgusting.
I don't CARE what her motives are; Elizabeth Edwards makes a valid point. How are we ever going to have meaningful political discourse in this country if we allow it to descend to that level?
True, sometimes political novices or the unsophisticated fall for the pandering and disgustingly disengenuous pitches we hear every election season. And yes, the media, especially television, often edits, condenses, and packages complicated issues in a manner that is, to put it mildly, deceitful.
"People tend to get the government they deserve," the old axiom goes. Be astute. Pay attention. Do your homework. Study the issues. Decide for yourselves.
But how do personal attacks and trivializing personal tragedies elevate the political discourse? How does it motivate the politically naive to sharpen their discernment by following the campaign more closely?
When people like Ann Coulter create such a foul stench around an already-unpalatable process, it only serves to heighten the apathy and disengagement she rails against.
Posted by: Mark O'Bar | Jun 28, 2007 1:53:49 AM
I am done with ABC and Good Morning America. Since Charles Gibbson left, the 4 idiots running that show are a embarrassment to ABC. The final straw was to let that idiot Coulter have any air time. I am glad so many papers got rid of her! She is the worst thing ABC could let on the air. Hear me ABC... I am done with Good Morning America. There is no place to turn any more for the news. You want a younger audience... you got it. You have turned your backs on loyal views of many years to be grab ratings. Good bye!
Posted by: ctocity | Jun 27, 2007 11:15:00 PM
Making negative comments about the Bush administration is not "hateful." It is a legitimate statement of belief in a functional democracy--even if it is taken to level where they are accused of being war criminals, for instance. This is simply not analagous to Coulteresque rant. Sorry right wingers; unless someone goes off on the Bush twins--you'll just have to come up with something else.
Posted by: dk | Jun 27, 2007 10:20:49 PM
I got to laugh at all you libs insulting Ann, you complain that she insults but yet all of you libs are insulting her worse then she has ever.
Hypocrisy is the golden rule of libs!!!
She is an intelligent and sencer lady who does not hide behind lib political correctness.
Lets see the libs ambushed her, she was there to talk about her book, but she handled herself with class. Edwards should be ashamed for using his wife as an attack dog. Very Presidential YEAH RIGHT!!!!!
Posted by: spock | Jun 27, 2007 10:19:27 PM
Ann Coulter is simply a disgusting human being. My God, I cannot believe the media would allow such despicable comments to be aired on their networks! I wasn't sure exactly who I would be looking forward to seeing in the Presidential campaigns, but if the Edwards' team has as much class and dignity as Mrs. Edwards alone, it is going to be a great election year. Ann Coulter, shame on you, you are disgusting and ugly by the words you spew. Try having an intelligent conversation for once.
Posted by: Angela | Jun 27, 2007 9:22:32 PM
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Posted by: Ed | Jun 27, 2007 9:02:30 PM
Everyone knows that Anne Coulter is nothing more than a piece of poor trash. She's not that great of an editor, so she uses her fat mouth to sell books. What she said about John Edwards and his son is simply appauling! It's also alarming that no one from the Republican party has denounced her trash talk, but then again we should not be surprised as most of Republicans feel the same way. However the media is just as much to blame as she is. They allow her on every conservative show to spew her venom. It's a shame that Elizabeth Edwards is battling incurable cancer and has to deal with this blond bimbo! Anne just remember, what goes around comes around. Mrs Edwards I'm praying for you and your family!
Posted by: Neal Wilson | Jun 27, 2007 8:29:10 PM
ABC News should not take Ann Coulter,s comments out of context, she made a good point useing quotes from Bill Mehr.
Posted by: Jack Bunker | Jun 27, 2007 8:17:29 PM
Why are you giving Ann Coulter access to the media?, she has done nothing to offer her opinion as any type of expert, or, anyone that counts.
Spot covering her and lets talk about something real.
Posted by: donat120 | Jun 27, 2007 8:12:39 PM
Ann Coulter has a right to her opinion, she even has a right to voice that opinion. That's part of what makes America and why so many want to live here. Ann Coulter seems like an intelligent person and I understand that she received a quality education. Unfortunately, while growing up and getting her education, no one bothered to try to attempt to teach her respect and common sense. During all of her attacks, which admitedly I know next to nothing about, only caught today's segment, she has neither. I would also guess that she doesn't have children or much of a family because a person couldn't make remarks about someone dying or should have died. I am the mother of two small children whol has to live with the death of their father every day. Know one deserves to die because of their political beliefs, even Ann Coulter. I agree, we have to stand up to the bullys of this world, but please at some point, she just simply needs her mouth cleaned out with soap.
Posted by: kathy | Jun 27, 2007 7:51:45 PM
Mrs. Edwards has a lot of class, in the way she handled herself against Ann Coulter. We are just a middle class construction worker family who vote. She handled what the woman said a whole lot better than I would have. The woman is doing all this talking to sell her book, and by golly she is doing it. The smart educated american people will see her for what she is, a touble maker trying to make a name for herself. Just give it a little time and she will be gone like all the other idiots who run their mouths and say nothing. The only problem with Ann Coulter is she is saying hurtful things and this should be sensored by the media. She is nothing but a trouble maker and it bothers me that she is getting all this attention. I think she owes Mrs. Edwards a very big apology for the meaness she is spouting.
Posted by: Susan Turley | Jun 27, 2007 7:44:17 PM
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