Latter-Day Saints

I find it interesting that more, than less, of this earth's population believes in the holy bible. They believe in Noahs Ark, Moses Parting the Sea, and Mary being visited by an angel and giving birth to our Savior, and etc...So if most of the population can believe in these things, wouldn't it make more sense to think that God hasn't stopped with miracles and prophets.....Just thought you all might want to think about it........Not to mention just because someone claims to be religious doesn't mean they are void from faults........The person that leads this country should be chosen by his deeds and acts.....I didn't realize that we were voting if the Mormon Church was true........I thought we were voting on the runner up.....The mormons and jews and others are all persicuted for their faith...And to say what one believes in, when you are not of that faith, is illogical. What good comes from being unkind to one another all for the sake of proving or disproving one's faith....Thou Shalt Love Thy Neighbor With all Thy Heart.......

I am my brother's keeper so take this bit of truth and pray about it, ask the Holy Spirit to protect you from the enemy as you pray in your beds tonight:
An afterword summery by James Akin quotes,"I will be like the most high"?
the central claim of the Mormon church ---that men and women can become the deities of their own worlds, the same as God the Father now is, with billions worshiping them---represents the ambition of Lucifer,who said in his heart,"I will ascend above the heights of the clouds;I will be like the Most High"(Is.14:14). To such aspirations the biblical response can only be,"yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit"(Is.14:15).
The devil has craved worship and equality with God ever since he fell. So consumed with this desire is he that he was willing to surrender his dark control of the pagan nations of the world if the Lord Jesus would only fall down and worship him(Matt.4:8-9).
When not directly encouraging people to worship him, the devil has encourage others to gradually come under his sway by following his example,by falling from grace through aspiring to be like God. This was the original lie he told Adam and Eve--that death would not come to them if they aspired to "be as gods"(Gen.3:4-5). This was the lie that, once believed and acted upon, caused the fall of the human race. It is also the lie the Mormon church wishes its members to believe and act upon. This may shock some, but it is the truth. There is a time for being polite and a time for being diplomatic, but there is also a time for plain speaking. The fact is: The Mormon church's "evangelization" efforts serve to spread the original lie that satan told in the Garden. The Mormon church tries to inspire people with Luciferian ambitions.The Mormon religion is not only not Christian in its beliefs, but that it is founded on deep spiritual darkness. If you are Mormon reading this, you must cast off the deceptions that have been passed on to you by the Mormon heirarchy. No matter how good and pious it seeks outwardly to appear, inwardly it is controlled by spiritual darkness. Saint Paul's words regarding false apostles of his day apply equally well to the "apostles" of Mormonism:
Such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Chriist. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is not strange if his servents also disguise themselves as servants of rightousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds(2 Cor.11:13-15).If you are Mormon, save your souls and repent. Now, to elect a politician based on his religious belief, you may ask yourself this question, Would you stand for a nation under God or one under the influence of Satan?

Why doesn't anyone ever mention Senator Reid's Mormon faith?

The spiritual beliefs of our political leaders will always matter to America. There is no seperation of church and state and there never will be as long as there are church goers voting. Regardless of their denomination, faith has a tremendous influence on what people value politically. Is it any wonder that voters choose candidates that represent their spiritual beliefs? The unfortunate thing is that politicans market themselves by trying to appeal to a group's spiritual beliefs. It's manipulative and low down, but that's life. Romney seems like he is a wimp and a coward. Too afraid to stake claims in what the LDS truly believe, yet trying to hold on to Mormonism by a thread to try to keep the votes of the LDS.

I've been a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for 25+ years and it still cracks me up whenever I hear those not of our faith refer others to "expert" sources for information about our church. My funniest experience with this was when I was first learning about the church back in the late 70's and my Catholic mother was having a holy cow about it. One day she came home from work with a "Hustler" magazine and poked it at me (the doctor she worked for subscribed to this highly educational magazine). "There's an article in here about Mormons that I want you to read," she said. I would not take the magazine and told her that there was no way I'd read anything packaged in that kind of filth. I couldn't believe she had actually brought something like that into our house. Yep, there are a lot of expert sources out there. Do yourself a favor, talk to a real Mormon (who's not a politician) or go to the Church's website if you want expert sources.

Sorry, Tina, but trust and belief are distinctly separate issues from Gov. Romney's choice of religion. This "issue" is as irrelevant now as was John F. Kennedy's in 1960, and Sen. Brownback's pitiful attempt to draw publicity to his obviously-faltering campaign should be repudiated by everyone. What Gov. Romney worships, or even if he worships, is of little consequence or importance to me; what IS of consequence and importance to me is what positions he holds, what his proposed solutions are to our problems, what he wants to accomplish, and what he has previously accomplished in his career, all of which don't necessarily correlate with his choice of religion.

Just consider the presidency of Richard Nixon, arguably one of our nuttiest presidents: he professed to be a practicing Quaker, but he didn't end the Vietnam War and showed extreme paranoia in his dealings in domestic issues. Yet, he opened China and established detente with the USSR. Had someone voted for him based on the assumptions that his religion indicated his character, that person would have been extremely disappointed. Whether Gov. Romney is a millennialist, amillennialist, or post-millennialist is as of as much relevance to me as the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin--ie., precious little.

Chuck, I absolutely do recognize that there are much bigger issues in this world than Mitt Romney's religious beliefs, but doesn't it make sense that we should trust and believe in the person who we are planning to elect as the leader of the greatest superpower in the world?

And I agree that it sucks that so many people put so much stake in whether or not a political pundit is a Christian or goes to church regularly. That whole separation of church and state that our forefathers fought for so mightily has really gone right down the tubes.

My problem is that people are just MAD because Mitt is the best candidate to be the president BUT because he's a LDS member, everyone else is mad!! I mean, when it comes to direct the country and be a excellent president, does religion matter?? if so, can someone tell me about the current president's religion and the things that he's doing?? I mean, come on!! He's not trying to govern this country based on religion and make everybody to be a "mormon", He's just trying to get this country better than before!!
But because most of the people are ignorant, they don't see that. All they want is to select a crazy guy from Texas that will make Texas their "own country" and then make as many stupid decisions as he can..that's what america wants!!

Let's see if I correctly understand the discussion here: we have wars in Iraq and Afghanistan; we have massive problems with our immigration policies; we have decreasing energy supplies and increasing energy prices; we're confronted with climate change; we have an expensive and bureaucratic health care system; we have elected leaders in Washington who can't agree on what to have for breakfast, much less anything else; we have an Attorney General who is about as effective as Cecil, the Seasick Sea Serpent; we have government agencies who are encroaching on civil liberties and personal privacy; we are losing our preeminent position in world economic matters; we have extremely poor international relations, and what's the first thing we're discussing--Mitt Romney's choice of religion? I feel I'm reliving a bad imitation of the 1960 presidential election!

It is very hard for me to believe that a real Christian would judge another. I thought that the Bible said judge not that you will be judged. If you really think about it All religion is a bit wierd. The resurection of Jesus Christ, the virgin birth, Moses and the clay tablets, parting of the red sea, etc. Soooo why is the Morman Religion any different? It all comes down to faith and faith will win out. Some of these comments above show a very biased view and we are voting for a President not a religion. Do some reading and educate yourself. A cult according to the dictionary is a group if people believing in the same ideology. Therefore these evangical Christians are also a cult. So who is calling the kettle black!

My pile of rocks are better than your pile of rocks said the caveman... and it has been conflict ever since.

Do we need to start a self destructive battle like the sunni and the shiites in gaza and baghdad?

Now if he had a cabinet full of mormons (which he won't) I would be worried because they would all fall asleep in meetings.

why are people so obsessed with Romney's Mormonism...big deal...move on. It's pretty sad we have people who live in this country that have no tolerance for others religious beliefs... a lot of so called "Christians" that are anything but emulating Christ-like virtues...hypocrisy...Jesus would be ashamed of you

why are people so obsessed with Romney's Mormonism...big deal...move on. It's pretty sad we have people who live in this country that have no tolerance for others religious beliefs... a lot of so called "Christians" that are anything but emulating Christ-like virtues...hypocrisy...Jesus would be ashamed of you

So which churchis the true one, the one and only true church of God? Why, it's your church, of course. And it's clear that people of the true faith can only believe what's true. After all, they chose the right book. Aren't they so clever for making the right choice?!
I'm not a person of the true faith. I haven't read the book that makes me immune from error. But I like to think tha I can grow and come nearer the truth as events or scholarship reveales new facts.

RON PAUL!!! That would be 100% yes. RON PAUL in 2008 is the only answer.

"Open Letter to Governor Romney

"I am part of the Christian evangelical community that will never consider supporting your candidacy until you renounce Mormonism and make Jesus your Lord and Savior."

Jesus IS his Lord and Savior. That's why it is called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.

Open Letter to Governor Romney

Sunday, February 18, 2007 (Reprint)

Dear Governor Romney,

I am part of the Christian evangelical community that will never consider supporting your candidacy until you renounce Mormonism and make Jesus your Lord and Savior. Your efforts and the efforts of members of your cult to persuade people that Mormonism is a brand of Christianity are an expensive waste of time, more expensive than you know.

You have an opportunity. Your decision to follow Jesus will save your soul and potentially the souls of many deluded Mormons who perpetuate the frauds of Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and other heretics.

Your cult with its secret meetings and seductive theology thinks that with enough cleverness and money you can brainwash people. We know that Mormonism is not Christianity just like we know that cyanide isn’t health food.

I pray that the Holy Spirit will lead you to the truth about Jesus.

Sincerely,

Edwin N. Cosby
2 Cor 11:14-15

The problem with Mormonism is the fact that they are not up front about what they believe. That's not a good trait or characteristic for a group or an individual. When confronted about their well documented beliefs, they will say it's not what they believe. It's an ever changing picture. They use Chrisitan terminology but have their own meaning which they are not forthcoming about. I don't get it! Just tell people straight-up what you believe.

I think if you took the arguments that many have leveled here - those of the "it is ridiculous that somebody could actually believe in Mormonism" variety - and put them up to any faith, be it evangelical christianity, catholicism, islam, buddhism, hinduism, judaism, any other faith you choose to pick, you would find that there is something that defies reason and rationality in EVERY one of those faiths. There is a reason it is called faith.

It is sad to me that there are people out there who consider themselves educated and intelligent but still fail to give mormonism, or any other significant religion a fair shake. Unless you really really really know a lot about it - assume that it is a reasonable belief system.

Because I can tell you that it is.

"One of the strangest teachings that Mormons accept is that we can become gods and populate our own planets."

While I am not a Mormon, and many of their teachings sound strange, I have not found one of their beliefs that does not have at least SOME scriptural basis, whether it be baptism for the dead [found in the New Testament], or the notion of humans as gods, e.g.:

For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords
"I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.'
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods' ?
If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came­ and the Scripture cannot be broken­ . . .

Since the Mormons believe in ETERNAL progression, some of their beliefs about the after-life are not all that surprising or even odd, if we accept an after-life to begin with.