Mitt takes it on the chin

I made a big mistake as a member of the LDS (Mormon) Church in saying that I supported Senator Brownback.

Today, a staffer distributed a false and offensive message saying,

"the only thing Christianity and the LDS Church has in common is the name of Jesus Christ, and the LDS Jesus is not the same Jesus of the Christian faith."

I applaud Senator Brownback for issuing an apology, but question whether it wasn't intentional.

I do have some misgivings about Mitt Romney's change of heart on positions like abortion and gay marriage.

However, I don't question his faith, nor his belief as Jesus Christ as the Son of God.

As a Mormon, you may be interested that we do not use our sunday school time disparaging other religions like some religions seem to relish. Nor do our leaders issue statements which would mischaracterize another faith. Instead, we choose to affirm our beliefs. And there is no more consistent belief or teaching that Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world.

I wish more people paid attention to the sad way abortion is twisted as an issue.

Nearly everybody considers abortions to be a bad thing -whether that ranges from a necessarily permissible evil or to one which should be banned. You don't meet too many women who are happy about an abortion had, nor too many men who happy about an abortion condoned or encouraged.

I don't think it matters whether abortion is murder. I think any attempt to tease out such a distinction of a politician is pretty devilish. (And - to put in a biblical sort of frame - reminds me much of the way the Pharisees tried to trick Jesus into saying something contradictory at various times in the New Testament).

elizabeth - true :(

Spock: you are sweet. I am not saying I am yeah for it, but it happens and will happen. It's the reality, but GOD judges one, not you nor I: judges in the end. We can rant and rave against it, but a person is a person and will do what he/she decides no matter how another feels about it. Yes, it's sad.

elizabeth - That decision affects the life of another human that does not have a voice yet.

Wake up people! We have a Democrat House and Senate - Roe vs. Wade is going NOWHERE in the next 10 years. This is a non-issue ... unless you're calling Mitt wishy-washy. Remember Reagan (voted "Greatest American" by popular vote) did the same, and also appointed pro-choicers and supported embryonic stem-cell research. Now you really didn't want to paint Romney to look even more like Reagan did you? Well, you are.

God forgives and is the ultimate judge my friend. We don't have to like it, however, but it is an unavoidable. Not everyone is a Christian or believes in God: I am not one of those people, however. But someone's abortion is none of your business. Let God deal with them. You just be nice. Isn't God of love?

God is the one in charge first of all, I personally do not want a president to decide my life for me. I want a president who will support me and my decisions and of my fellow neighbors, that is CEO, he isn't intended to be God. One's personal beliefs is one's personal beliefs, not for anyone else to judge that...only GOD! We need a speaker to support that.

Brownback is using semantics at the same time he is using Romney's faith against him. He's trying to get Romney to make a public statement that contradicts his faith. Abortion is wrong. There is no "right" to it. Romney knows this. He has governed (effectively) as a pro-life governor his whole term. See David French's thorough discussion of Romney's LIFE record. Brownback is desperate and annoying. He is not an attractive candidate. His presence is like Al Gore's. The way he speaks is annoying and condescending.

FYI, Mitt Romney's statement is consistent with his church's position on whether abortion is "murder." It is wrong. It is almost always inappropriate, but the church does not use the term "murder." Go Mitt.

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or a "Mormon" as people refer to us.

I support Senator Brownback because his views reflect the teachings of my Church, and is more convincing than Mitt Romney - a fellow Mormon.

I remember Senator Brownback's defense of pro-life issues in Senate confirmation hearings.

Unfortunately, I believe Mitt's positions are more opportunist than heartfelt.

Senator Brownback is the one true conservative - even though he is Catholic.

Thanks Senator Brownback for being consistent and principled. I trust you more than Romney.

Correction to last post -- 'Science kills man'

Joshua - Science has never and never will disprove God. the rest of what you say is heresy! so I will ignore that. But you of finished the circle then that 'man kills man'

Posted by: Jared | Jun 14, 2007 11:45:34 AM

romney is behaving like a president: keep the american's interest not his personal one. who is one to judge a person's rights to an abortion? GOD is who, not one person on this earth has the right to judge.

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I have the right to judge. I see it this way: man creates god, science kills god, man becomes god.

I can certainly understand McCain trying to keep this issue on the front burner. As with all things under dispute you have be resigned to the facts; either something did happen or it didn't. Then ask yourself if it matters. Romney does seem to say the politically expedient thing and that matters to me. I'm also a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (commonly called Mormon church) and I favor McCain over the competition. I liked his campaign in 2004, but all of this conservative grandstanding he's doing this year gives him a smack of inauthenticity.

romney is behaving like a president: keep the american's interest not his personal one. who is one to judge a person's rights to an abortion? GOD is who, not one person on this earth has the right to judge.

rglines - With a miscarriage it is God's will. Why can't the choice come like 'queenmercury' said before sex. Now I know people are going to say what about rape and or incest, well first give me a statistic of how many pregencies happen because of those, and then I will agree for only those , even though it is still wrong.

je po - Well then we should be thankful for the Propaganda of Global Warming, since there will be more fields to grow. We have the food to feed everyone on tis planet, the problem is the socialists and dictators. Adoption. And maybe if towns and schools would give children other activities which seem to be cut out of schools. How are people uninformed about birth control, it is plaster everywhere, unless you live in a vacuum but then you would not be having sex. now is it not equal rights, so the father of the child should have a say first. But you are say then a woman has the right to kill a living human being.

Tyjaboo - You are right

paulet see above, that was propaganda, see the CDC for the facts

huffyho - first the hypocrosy is not being against abortion and for the Death penalty it is the opposite views that are hypocritical. GOPer to say belive in the death penalty for violent offenders of innocent people. Pro-Abortionist believe in kill innocent victims. Your whole statement about choosing who gets aborted is more of the pro-abortion view - anti-abortionist want NO abortions, those who want abortions are the ones closer to Nazis.

Now as far as McCain the issue that cost him the nomination is the illegal immigrant bill he is pushing. and he is trying to change the subject.

First it is about 80%+ of abortions are done by well to individuals, not the poor. Yes we know the propaganda just like the back alley abortion claim, when actually during the time period in the 60-70's they said that there was no report of any woman dieing from a back alley abortion, but they said 10's of thousands died. Now the argument is the poor well if it was true about the poor, then there is always adoption.

Now the attack on Romneys religion is foolish and stupid we have many different religions running, morman, catholic, protanstent, muslim, and so on. Mormans believe in God just like the others just differently, stop attacking a god loving religion.

Now 'A Viet Nam Vet' what is immoral about fighting an enemy that wants to destroy us, freeing over 50 million people from rape camps, death squads and so forth. Any supposed vet should be the first to support our troops, so we can win this war, since if the politicians stayed out of the Vietnam war and let the military fight it we would of won that war. So learn the lesson.

And Please stop with the Ron Paul.

The whole thing is just shady - Romney's phoniness and what not

The article mentioned that candidates Romney and Brownback will be at the National Right to Life Convention. A note by Kent Snyder at www.ronpaul2008.com indicates that Dr. Ron Paul will also be there, no doubt participating in Carol Tobias' forum.

Ron Paul clearly values human life.