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Yeah Jake, what about that? I certainly think Bill and Al were beneficiaries of the first Bush invasion, and were merely parroting what they were fed. As far as proving there was no fire, what do you think weapons inspectors found? They found nothing, and certainly Hans Blix was standing and voicing that concern. These Bush criminals need to stand trial,

Any of them resign yet??

41 Lib Senators need to resign, they condem a man for a speech they never heard, but yet do not condem them selves.

They have proven they work for George Soros and not the American People.

Reid Resign NOW!

"Limbaugh's comments about the fake vet were 1 minute and 45 seconds away from the phony soldiers remark."

Which is exactly how long it took him to complete the call in which he made the remark. Explaining "fake soldiers" was the very first thing he did after terminating the call.

James Danley - Good point but the media never admits to using them. Even though now we know for fact Hilary created media matters too, from her own admission.

I agree with Ray's comment below; Rush is being smeared by "Phony Senators"; also Harry Reid should get his butt out of the Senate and take his "Little Dick" (Dick Durbin) with him; Senator Dubin should also apologized for his nasty comments about U.S. Troops in Cua guarding the terrorists. These Democratics are total wimps! Just as their Presidential contenders.....Clinton, Obama and Edwards...total wimps, never served in the military and will make the United States very weak if any of these hacks get elected...thank God they will not get elected; America is too smart for that.

Rush is being smeared by "Phony Senators"!!!!! Harry Reid is a Jack-Ass and he knows that Rush Limbaugh did not insult U.S. Troops; Rush was talking about the "same phoney soldier" that ABC News -Brian Ross, did a story aout just 3 days prior to Rush Limbaugh stating the same phony soldier story. These Democratics led by Harry Reid (who has insulted U.S. Troops by stating they lost the war in Iraq) are so far in bed with Media Matters and Move On. Com it is sickening. Harry Reid please do the United States a huge favor and resign; please go back to what ever land deal you came from...also on you way out apologize to Rush Limbaugh for slandering him.

It would seem that politics and political discussion are no longer the territory of groups of differing opinions trying to reach an agreement or accomodation through honest discussion and compromise, but rather an infintely infantile game of "can you top this" when it comes to expressions of outrage.

The game seems to be played by someone saying or doing something which could be interpreted in more than one way; someone else interpreting it in the worst possible way, proclaiming offense, and demanding a blanket apology covering everything from the Original Sin on out; still others hearing bits and pieces of the whole story and freely offering their ill-conceived and/or ill-founded opinions, all the while manifesting more outrage; the originator of the action or message either sheepishly apologizing or adamantly refusing, depending on the amount of offense taken; and finally, the requester of the apology becoming more incensed or only slightly mollified, depending on what the "wrongdoer" did.

Reasonable people can reason together where no one has to be "right" or "wrong," but whenever the outrage game is played, as Mr. Limbaugh knows all too well in this tempest in a tea pot, reason is the first to be sacrificed.

The word "soldier" in the mouth of Limbaugh is like the word "love" in the mouth of a pimp.

Now that Media Matters has been exposed for their lies and distortions regarding Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly, maybe the mainstream news media will now think twice before blindly using groups like Media Matters as a news source. Every news agency that reported Media Matters' claims has been tainted. Their credibility has been damaged. Is this the type of journalism that we want from the mainstream media? It's one thing to have a biased and slanted viewpoint, it's quite another to report lies and distortions as the truth. Of course it now begs the question: What other lies and distortions by Media Matters have been disseminated by the mainstream media?

Just days before Rush Limbaugh was attacked by a number of press outlets for discussing "phony soldiers" on the air, ABC's Brian Ross did a segment on "World News with Charles Gibson" dealing with "phony heroes...scam artists...posing as the war heroes they never were, claiming credit for acts of courage in Iraq and Afghanistan."

Marvelously, this story was aired on Monday, September 24, just two days before Limbaugh made his comments. And, as noted in a NewsBusters posting by the MRC's Brent Baker, the report even mentioned the same "phony soldier," Jesse Macbeth (pictured to the right), that Limbaugh did on his program Wednesday.

Will media attack ABC with the same zeal they did Limbaugh? Maybe even more important, will House Democrats offer a resolution to condemn Ross, Gibson, and everyone involved in ABC's report?

How easily the truth can be hidden by those with an agenda, and how easily these half truths are swallowed with kool-aid!!

Hush Bimbo is such a loser that you wonder when his doting radio listeners will take heed. The collapse of the republicans is self-evident but not covered by the Constitution. The PGA TOUR needs to be embarassed that they fawn as he tours the fairways with our nations finest golfers. Tiger Woods loves the military and goes to play games with them, but when the dolt in the whitewash house ruins the military is there a peep from Tiger Woods or HUSH BIMBO? What is this world coming to????? BILE OHREALLY and HUSH BIMBO are getting smeared?????

Limbaugh is a disgrace. He can spin it all he wants but his intention was clear. He is so used to insulting and abusing people as well as lying so he sometimes forgets who he is attacking.

I HATE "freedom of speech", oh, wait, I'm for liberalizing the government TOWARD the PEOPLE, OOPS, amibad?

ABC's Charlie Gibson did a report on PHONY Soldiers on 9/24 with Brian Ross investigating.
This is so funny and makes everyone except Rush Limbaugh look foolish.

spock,Libs have rights in America, same as you. If you don't like "Freedom of Speech", maybe you should become a Republican.

I heard this live and I re-read the transcript. What is the media obsession with Rush? He terrifies them; that's what is it.

The transcript shows exactly WHO he was speaking of. Get over it. Limbaugh is one of the biggest supporters of our troops in many many ways.

Rush gets this.... and guys like Reid, Durbin, and Kerry who have called them Murderers, Losers, get a pass??! What?!

Our media's liberal colors are showing once again.

Personally, I prefer to watch football on Sunday. But, you go, girls. BTW Rush-hating Libs---I can't list all the school-yard quality names you call Rush, but if he is all those things you came up with at your virtual posting-party, if his opinion is an intellectual no-show like you wish, then what he said wouldn't be an issue, now would it? One can't have it both ways, even though Libs have been making a living on that logical fallacy for years.

So if you are against the war you cannot be a real Republican. Then if you are a soldier against the war you must have come out of the blue according to the caller and Flush agrees: phony soldiers.

That there are opportunist who pretend to be soldiers and impose themselves on other groups does nothing to change the point that many soldiers have come forth to criticize the war in Iraq.

Flush is arguing that since Al Qaeda is now in Iraq we must stay there: he does neglect to point out that it is Bushs's creation of a failed state which
allowed them to get there in the first place. If we left Iraq it would be run by the majority Shiites who might massacre their Sunni neighbors. What the Shiites wouldn't do is enable Sunni Al Qaeda which refers to the Shiites as the near enemy.

Flush doesn't see getting our American troops killed over there and creating more enemies for the US (with the help of Blackwater --despised by the soldiers) as reasons for getting out.

Frankly how can any thinking American believe anything that Mr. Limbaugh says. He's nothing more than a well paid $hill for the Republican Party; he lacks depth and fairness. He's myopic and mean-espirited. We deserve better than this hypocrite.

If anybody still believes the myth that the mainstream media is liberal then need only look at how ABC covers up for Limbaugh by linking to a doctored transcript from the liar Limbaugh himself.

Here is the real transcript. Its context shows that Limbaugh's phony soldier smear was on all troops who disagreed with the war. It shows that Limbaugh's comments about the fake vet were 1 minute and 45 seconds away from the phony soldiers remark.

Comrades
Rush must be silenced. It is evident that bourgeois democracy doesn't work. The re-election of imperialist villain Bush is the best proof of it. Once again Americans have shown a glaring lack of ability to elect their own government.

If anybody believes the myth that the mainstream media is liberal they need only see how ABC provides a doctored transcript to mislead readers into thinking Limbaugh was talking about a fake vet rather than smearing US troops who disagree with the war. ABC links to Limbaugh's own site, the site of a compulsive liar.

As always, Limbaugh goes to any lengths to lie his way out. The surrounding context clearly shows that Limbaugh was calling all anti-war veterans fake.

Limbaugh lied about the left supporting the fake vet too. The fake vet was admitted to one small anti-war veterans group for a short time before he was kicked out. He was never anything like a poster boy for the left. Nobody on the left ever even heard of him.

Rush is the one who promoted a phony vet. Check this out:
HEADLINE
Limbaugh admitted to airing call from phony liberal-bashing Lt. Col. in Iraq but continued to hold out hope officer was real

Limbaugh is a drug addict. Why would anyone pay any attention to him in the first place? Addicts don't think like normal people, yet his audience thinks he's wonderful. Makes me wonder about those who consider him so highly.

When the caller said "out of the blue" I understood that to mean phony or fake.

I wish I could understand why people care about Rush Limbaugh's opinion any more than they do that of Barbra Streisand (come to think of it, I never see them in the same room together). Limbaugh has no qualifications for me to think his opinion is worth anymore than any other schlub in a bar. I'm not saying that he isn't entitled to his opinion (just like any other entertainer), merely that it shouldn't carry any additional weight. By the same token, I fail to see the importance of someone serving in the military having additional weight about the war...it is essentially a moral issue...and, on such matters, every citizen should have the right to their opinion, whether they wear a uniform or not...

Rush, Hannity, and their ilk are causing more damage to the Republican party than helping it. These so-called self-designated "Great Americans" turn away people that might other-wise give support due to their constant spouting of trash talk. Rush's "you know that the limp-wristed, manby-pamby, drive-bys and their wimpy little..." childish chatter makes the party sound like a bunch of simplistic polarized name-calling morons.

Louise, the caller said to Rush Limbaugh: "They pull these soldiers that COME UP OUT OF THE BLUE and spout to the media." What part of "come out of the blue" do you not understand. That is the equivalent of saying "pulled out of a hat." They did not exist until they they found the media. In other words they are "phony soldiers." They do not and did not exist.

I am telling you - if I ever need a brain transplant - I want a liberals - I want one that has never been used. One who cannot complete 45 days in the Army (they threw his sorry *** out) goes around telling everyone who will listen he was Rambo while in Iraq and witnessed atrocity after atrocity committed by US troops is a not only phony, a liar but sorry as well. Anyone who defends him is just as sorry. He has, however, the right to be as sorry as he wants to be. Before all you little boys who don't have the balls to serve get excited - I protected YOUR right to be sorry too. I am glad to see you exercising your right freely since I secured it for you with three trips to Nam and one to Saudi.

just read the transcipt of the radio broadcast...scumbag was referring to any solider that didn't agree with his sick mentality as being "phony"

you're right he smeared our soldiers....limbaugh is scum

Dodd and Edwards know full well that Rush was talking about a soldier who was running a scam and got caught. They are such bottom feeders. How is America ever to have honesty in Washington with men like these two clowns. Sorry John, but Hillary is eating your lunch and you might as well drop out of the race and let a real contender like Gore get in.

I have served 28 years and from what I have read , this in no way states Rush is calling soldiers fakes, he is taking of the ones who fake to be a soldier

How about you do the analysis and offer a rational analysis? What the heck do they pay you to do?

Dominic Jermano, there are two things wrong with your analysis. First, they have to prove that you knew there was no fire before you can be prosecuted for yelling, "Fire," in a crowded theater. Second, what about President Clinton, Vice-President Al Gore and many of the Democrats in the Senate and House claiming Iraq was a threat (some even claimed an "imminent" threat) due to WMDs...back in 1998 when Congress gave President Clinton the authority for regime change in Iraq?

Remind me again, which branch of the service did Rush serve in? I forgot. My dad & uncle were in the Navy(I'm a Navy brat(my husband was Air Force,(Vietnam vet), my nephew is Air Force now (has been in Iraq), another nephew is Coast Guard. RE fresh my memory.....

Phony truths:

Radioevangelism inciting followers to a phony Jim Jones heaven that only a limbaughtimzed brain is capable of understanding.

TheOldTrooper....where is Dan these days.....LMAO!!!!!

Go left!!!!! silence the right, their taking all your air time......!!!!!

ABC must have hired Dan Rather, or is trying to emulate him. I heard the program and no sane person could have reached the conclusion that Moveon, ABC and most of the Drive-By media did. Context, context, context;.put the entire discourse in context. Rush is one of the few persons in the media who has always honored the troops, who has supported them and has never lied about them. That is more than ABC, CBS, CNN, NT Times, LA Times etc, etc., can say.
Moreover, as one who has listened to Rush since he first went on the air, I can say with certainty, that if he had said exactly what he has been wrongfully accused by the Drive-By, every one of his regulars would have know that he did not mean it. 18 years of listening to Rush, makes one pretty sure that does not speak with forked tongue.

I'm not a Rush fan at all but I think the transcript clears him of any and all wrongdoing. This is the second time in a week that the press has attempted to "create news" by taking a radio host's statement completely out of context. This gives the press a bad name. The "phony troops" was clearly in reference to a civillian who did indeed fabricate an entire military record, when in fact, he was kicked out of boot camp.

Isn't it against the law to yell fire in a crowded cinema, when there is no fire? The reason is that many people could die, for a false event or emergency. Now if that is censorship, then I think censorship is good. No?
I think yes. So my question to all the outstanding scholars, Congressman and Senators, what is the difference when George Bush said there was an emergency in Iraq with WMD, and found there was no weapons of mass destruction. In other words no fire?
Bush broke the law. No?
I think yes, and thousands died. In fact it is worse than screaming fire in a crowded cinema, when no fire or emergency existed.
Are we to believe that Rush Limbaugh is allowed to keep fanning the lies, to run off to other cinemas and do the same? Such as Iran? Rush Limbaugh is a liar, a crook, and murderer. He is complicit in supporting the War criminals in Washington. He should be taken off the air, because he is inciting false claims. No?
In fact yes, there are laws against defamation of character, slander, and other agencies that protect the people. Is that considered freedom of speech too? I think Rush is breaking the law, just as Bush and company have been doing.
He needs to come to justice.
In fact his phoney soldier comment is as offensive as Imus in the Morning racial slur, that gave him the boot out the door.

Phony uniform: worn by adamant war supporters however they avoid signing up for the military.

Did anyone notice that the caller was calm and focused and kept bringing Rush back to the point? Rush sounded befuddled and stumped. Later he tried to cover it by saying you can't follow these guys intellectually. Actually he was admitting "I couldn't follow him intellectually". The caller was asking a simple, clear question and Rush couldn't answer it.

I read the transcript and not only did Rush not define "phony soldiers" as you report, in fact, the caller did.

Quit being so biased in your reporting of someone you obviously despise so passionately.

Whay don't you listen to the show rather then reading other peoples "blog" about the show the recording is a better reference then some one writing

Mary--you, as a Lib may not have spat on returning soldiers, but many, many of your fellow libs did, and, rhetorically speaking, still do. Thus, many of your Lib friends jump at the chance to believe phoney stories told by phoney soldiers like the one Rush's caller was referring to. 'phoney soldier' was a prompt by Rush to the caller--a phrase to describe what he was talking about. And the caller agreed--repeated the phrase. Just read the rantings of the Libs posting here, jumping on this issue the wrong way. Churchill used to say that if you showed him a young Conservative he would show you someone with no heart--if you showed him an old Liberal he would show you someone with no brain. He was right. I hope for you to grow old and wise.

When you had the oprotunity to call Mr. Limbaugh to ask about his "Phony Soldier", why didn't you?

Isn't that part of journalistic ethics?

Or is that so, yester-years for you to do it now?

Once again, the media has proven that it is so far out of mainstream, that you'd couldn't even find it.

Cleary Rush was referring to the phony soldiers that lefties stand up to make their point, like Jesse MacBeth. And how about Beuchamp who fed false stories to New Republic? As I recall, he was anti-war and signed up to get some good stories. And he married the fact-checker at TNR, only them to publish these horrific "war stories".
Most lefties would say, yes they're FAKE but accurate.

This is the key as Rush never implied or stated that soldiers who oppose the war are phony. Unlike 90% of the people commenting, I actually listened to the entire segment the day it happened and then read the ENTIRE transcript. It is pretty simple, he is talking about true phony soldiers who lie about their service and what they saw. Where are the questions about the left using these phonies to smear our troops?

"Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth. Now, he was a "corporal." I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse Macbeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart; it wasn't his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse Macbeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth describes the horrors this way: "We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque."

Now, recently, Jesse Macbeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse Macbeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse Macbeth isn't an Army Ranger, never was. He isn't a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven't even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don't look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse Macbeth's lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth."

Mary - Your Lib senators/congressmen have said all what I have said. I did not say you.

First of all even the lib 9/11 commision report stated that the terrorist were at war with us during the 90s and we did nothing. Iran has been our enemy since 79

Libs act as if we started this war. This war will last a long time yes, but not forever. But if we allow Iran and the terrorists to continue unchecked we will fall. The n what will you tell you children's children, that you sat back and allowed us and our allie to perish.

Everybody says President Bush lied but no one ever proves it!

Clinton (both) claimed he was a threat.

Hillary voted for it, am I am sure she consulted Bill

Where has Rush said Iraq is responsible for 9/11 and on that matter when did Bush?

Jane - the phone soldier he was talking about was NOT a soldier he lied!

When did he bash Michael Fox, Mr Fox actually said Rush did not bash him.

Anybody who read or believes Media matters aka Clinton Front group should not be able to vote, Dumb people should not vote.

So this Viagra popping hero knows the difference between real soldiers and phony soldiers??? Next he'll blast handicapped folks like Michael J. Fox again!!! We need to tell Rush his 15 minutes are over!!!

Judge for ourselves? How about you stop pretending that everything is a judgment call and write the story as it is: Limbaugh considers the troops who oppose the war to be "phony soldiers." There's no discussion of "faked war records" at all in the exchange.

Classic MSM handling of Big Pharma's vicious attacks and cowardly evasions.

what color blood do phony soldiers bleed?

No one even noticed that Rush doesn't think the lives of our soldiers or 10's of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians are worth anything!

RUSH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. The next guy that calls here I'm going to ask them, "What is the imperative of pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out?" I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "When's he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe," whatever.

If your trully stupid enough to believe that Rush made fun of the troops, then your as stupid as the actuall "phony troop" that hes talking about. What are they suppose to apologize for?

This morally-challenged misinformer is also an insult to the human brain.

Just reading what Rush said makes me KNOW how little he knows about what is really going on. He actually believes that Saddam was responsible for 9/11. What a dolt. And Spock, I'm a Lib and I would never, and have never called our troops Nazi's, terrorists, murderers, dumb. They are brave men and women fighting, and dying, in a war that was waged in a lie. Explain that to your kid's, kids. They will be fighting in the Middle East after that dolt in the whitehouse bombs Iran.

By the way where is their outrage at the man who pretended he was a soldier, that is insulting to our troops.

Where were their outrage with MoveOn? Is that not Durbin Our Troops have Lost Senator?

I listened to the talk in question, there was nothing insulting our troops!

I find it sick that the Libs, who call our troops Nazi's, Terrorists, Dumb, Murderers and so forth have the gaul to say something about Rush when he made a comment about a Lier who is in jail for his proven lies!

This is disgraceful no wonder they have an 11% approval, the libs are aiding and abbetting our enemy!

The Libs should resign!! NOW! since they are puppets of MoveOn.org and Soro's and are not representing the American People.

They are phony Senators!!