Verdict: New York Times Gave MoveOn a Discount

Becky - It was not Bush, but the American People that brought the complaint.

Sam / Kathleen - interesting, moveon gets millions from Soros, they control the Lib party. The Libs actually own more stock in those companies then the Republicans.

And when was the last time you heard an Oil company insult our military?

Also you see nothing wrong with Edwards earning money from people who are foreclosing on their homes?

What other American company can do what Haliburton does?? Huh ? I'll answer for you NONE! oh thats right you want jobs to goto France!

Becky - Get Real ok, also Petreaus I do not think even said anything, why dont you just admit you libs crossed the line. I know especially after seeing the libs on TV last night you guys dont even think there are terrorists out there, that America is bad, I just don't get it, if America is so bad why Live here! oh thats right Libs never put there money where their mouth is.

igor - Please Bush was going to win that election no matter what even if the swiftboats did not bring out the truth about Kerry.

It turns out that Rush Limbaugh was the first to introduce "Betray Us" and Petraeus in the same sentence..... What hypocrites!..... MoveOn has sent in the rest of the money for the ad. Get over it!

Ironic how "Swiftboat Veterans" saved the election for GWB, now, because of one minor advertisement, the same party flatulates a cow. Kerry was way ahead in all the polls until the ads for "Swiftboat Vets" started to appear. I guess it's OK to "fix" an election, if it's the "right people" doing it.

If the right wing is so sensitive, Bush should have picked a general with a different last name to hide behind. 99% of the american public would not have known about this ad, had the Bushies not raised such a stink. Good work MoveOn, just sent a check.

Applause to Doug and James - Only if the Republicans could speak like you guys!

Doug - they also put up people as if they served and then it is found out they did not serve or were not in Iraq.

Also if they did not pass the Feingold/McCain campaign bill Moveon and others would not have as mush money.

Why is it that the only people crying about saving the troops are people that have nothing to do with the troops. 99.9% of the troops agree with the mission and the president. But the left with only listen to that .1% of the military that agree with them. I like how they find one soldier out of a thousand to disagree with the president and make it seem like all soldiers feel the same way. These are all big boys that volunteered and are happy to do it for their country. They only ones whining are the cowards that joined for college money and had to actually fight for their country. As far as oil for Bush and Cheney, what a joke. How many Democrats voted for this war with the same intelligence that was given to the president? But now it's not convienent anymore and won't get them elected. Or as Hillary says "If I knew then what I know now". What a great line. If I knew that a car was going to run me over, I wouldn't have walked out in front of it. What a complete moron she is. She
supported this war based on the info she had at the time it was given. I'm sure we all wish we had info 6 months before it was actually available. Stop defending these idiots and their left wing propaganda tools.

I find it very interesting that the same politicians and bloggers who blast the Republicans for cowtowing to special interests and lobbyists are themselves cowtowing to groups like MoveOn.org. Don't get me wrong. I am all for free speech. If an organization is fortunate enough to have a billion dollar war chest and can not only express its view point throughout the different media outlets but also have a leash on those running for office, the more power to them. However, they must abide by all campaign and lobbying laws; and any contributions to the organization must be within the campaign finance laws.

At the same time it is fair game for individuals and other organizations who disagree with another organization's viewpoint to express their own viewpoint and attempt to make as much political hay as possible. THAT IS WHAT FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS ALL ABOUT.

daddy - ummmm! What do they do that is so wrong? Speak the Truth! Did you know by a poll from your own Liberal papers that the most informed group of people are those that listen to Rush L.

Sean O'Brien - They are losing sponsors and money! The are very Left leaning there is no question about it.

Again all libs know how to do is attack people, they never give facts!

I can't believe you spent "a couple" of weeks on this -- how about some real news -- gee did ya spend two week covering Coulter -- there is real news out there maybe we need real journalists for a change.

By the way, I do have a question, do pundits get paid for appearing on TV News shows and is that a negotiated figure or a set figure like appearing on Letterman or Leno??

Dear Spock,

We are only saving the country from lemmings who know very little besides what HUSH BIMBO, BILE OHREALLY, SHUN HANNITY, and the nervous little twitch...mikey the savage weiner, feed you.

This is really embarassing for the New York Times. Politics in reporting is nothing new, but big time newspapers pride themselves in maintaining their professionalism in the middle of political dogfights. A large number of NYT sponsors would drop their advertisements if the NYT became known as a left-wing prop. This is not a goof just because the NYT representative cut MoveOn.org a break on the ad price, but because the NYT representative did not maintain the confidentiality of the agreement. It is a cardinal rule of professionalism. If you are going to play favorites (and everyone does, folks, sometimes for good reasons), do not get caught doing so. Someone will get fired for this, no doubt. It won't make General Petraeus' job any easier.

wilder5121, daddy, and Becky - Interesting Posts! You support a Hate America Organization like Move on which is Funded by George Soros who funds the Clintons Media Matters group, you hate our military, so why do you live here? Why not move to Cuba, Venezuala or similar Country? Since Soros and the Dem/libs want to bring socialism here, but they all should move to Venezuala. Oh thats right you would not have the freedom that you enjoy here because of our Great Men and women of the Arm Services.

Also in your opinion anyone who loves our country and Military is a Far Right wing Nut? People who speak the truth are Right Wing nuts? Hey then I guess that makes me and the majority of True Americans Right Wing nuts.

Libs are so arrogant and gullible it is sad!!

Keep up the good work MoveOn. If nothing else, you have the Bush in an uproar. I can't believe that anyone with the cerebral tissue of cockroach would still defend this administration!

The collapse of the republicans would be so very fulfilling except for the fact that they only have one last gasp left...misery loves company .anybody buying their failed spiel now???? The networks have...

I think every left wing nut ought to give all their money away to some far left group. That way they can sponge off the government when they retire and really show their "I hate the US Government for what it stands for" mantra.

Has no bearing on the fact that Admiral Fallon called the bush weasel a sycophant, so BETRAYUS fits. Perhaps the TIMES is just making up for lost time as Maureen Dowd sat the bench while the access connected reporter missy miller(forgot her name) ran the show.

If Mr. Hoyt's explanation of the appearance of the ad is correct, then he should ensure that the NYT's ad department knows those policies so such a mess as this doesn't happen again. Until then, the NYT can hardly be considered a reliable reporter of facts concerning Iraq, can it?

Either way the Times is a privately held Company and they can write and publish whatever "news" or "editorials" or "infomercials" or "commercials" they see fit to print. They set their fees, can adjust or waive them, and charge what they want. If someone feels slandered or libeled they can try and sue but that is no guarantee they will win anything. If you don't like the paper, don't buy it, don't pay attention to it, or buy it and use it to line bird cages with if that is what its utility is to you. People need to wake up and realize that papers like this can be as biased and off the wall as they want. The media in America is big business, controlled by editors and owners and advertisers and you are just a consumer of this product. It can affect your beliefs, your information base, your politics, your expectations, and your freedom. And its your dime. All the free news sites on the net exist to sell advertising and get you to buy things or believe things as certain people profit or gain power from this. The general can take care of himself and now more people are aware of Move on.org's bias and willingness to use it in the public arena. There is no such thing as "unbiased" reporting today anymore than there is unbiased advertising. This has been true for a long long time. Wake up!

I just sent MoveOn.org ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS. Any organization that enrages the fanatical right-wing and makes them want to shut it down is definitely patriotic and worth supporting. MoveOn has every right to express their opinion without fear of the Thought Police and GOP Book-Burning Squads, since this is still America...in spite of Bush Jr's endless attempts to undermine and destroy it.