A Stark Remark

...wondering why nobody has said anything about the terrorists who are responsible for the death's of 4000 Americans and the majority of the 200K Iraquis.

As for Stark he's a tanglefoot anyway, as for childrens health care It would be good for children under the poverty level.

"Womb-to-tomb", Yes, I'm in favor of health-care, personal or governmental. Honestly, I don't know how you could LEGALLY disqualify ANY child, under 18, even one that has rich parents, isn't that discrimination?

GWB handpicked the intelligence directing us into this last Iraqi conflict, Yes, it does seem to be true, where are the Nuclear Warheads that were under the tarps before the invasion? This stuff about 1998, is your posting.

I was right, he was speaking about GWB's POLICIES....Fair Game! You MUST be a lawyer the way you want to play word games! The article even says,"Stark made a similar remark a few times, until a Republican Member of Congress objected. The Chair ruled Stark's comments were not out of order according to House rules."

ididit4u, we have a fundamential disagreement and that's fine! You seem to be in favor of government controlled "womb-to-tomb" universal health care for everyone. And that is your God-given and Constitutional right to that opinion. I just don't believe the federal government should take away a person's right to refuse medical treatment.

ididit4u, so you're going to stick with the claim that George Bush hand picked the intelligence in 1998 -- three years before he came into office?

Danley, get used to shameless politicians.....Foley, Craig, Vitter, Limbaugh, Ney, DeLay, Taft, etc.. By-the-way, I appreciate the 4 reasons you are against Improved Child Health Care, when I look at 150 billion, for Iraq, I think 36 billion is a small price to pay for the Health of the next generation, and I simply do not agree with them.

ididit4u, you wrote: "...we have 'freedom of speech', the floor of the Congress is NO EXCEPTION!" Actually the House of Representatives has strict rules which prohibit personal attacks on other members and the President of the United States. As a side note, members of Congress enjoy one Constitutional right that the rest of us do not have. They are immune from slander when they are speaking on the floor of the House. I am not complaining about that privilege, I actually agree with that being a necessary privilege.

Finally, if GWB didn't "handpick" the intelligence he put out, AND the pictures of "weapons under tarps" were really there, then why didn't we recover them during the War? Why didn't we bomb the Al-Quaeda camp? Are we safe from terrorists now that we've won in Iraq? Which freedoms are being saved in Iraq? Why are we "saving" the same people that cheer American Casualties? You think we are doing the right thing by saving these people, get off a plane in Iraq, with no bodyguards, no makeup. Lets see how safe you are, lets see how friendly they are, lets see how they show their gratitude for a trillion dollars spent "freeing" them.

ididit4u, you wrote: "According to your post, you disagree with the whole thing because THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY told them to lie?" No, I just pointed out that I thought it was shameless for the Democrats to do that. As for my opposition for the bill, I gave four clear reasons why I supported President Bush's veto of the new SCHIP bill.

Cory,IF THE WAR IS VIEWED AS ILLEGAL, then, ANY INNOCENT people killed, would be ILLEGAL. This is a free country, we have "freedom of speech", the floor of the Congress is NO EXCEPTION!

Number one, you aren't correct, I suppose you are talking about the kid the GOP "ganged-up" on. There ARE going to be kids NOT COVERED. I don't know where you came up with goofy articles like that, but, KIDS WILL BE DENIED! According to your post, you disagree with the whole thing because THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY told them to lie? You should be used to LIARS by now, Vitter, Craig, Noe, Ney, Bush, Cheney, etc.. Lets face it, your examples of shortcomings of Iraq's WMD's, were ACCUSATIONS, that never were proven, as for inspections, they proved they were doing their best, it wasn't good enough for GWB, so, that too ends up in the "never proven" list. PS_ Lots of children trying to go to college, some will be 25, when they graduate, I hope they have Healthcare.

ididit4u, the Democrats used children ALREADY COVERED by the SCHIP program. They used these children and had them lie, claiming that they would not be covered if the veto was not overridden -- when they already were covered. If the Democrats had to have children make this claim, the least they could have done was actually had children who were not currently covered -- like a few of the 25 year-olds that would have been covered had the bill been overridden.

M, explain to me how George Bush hand picked the intelligence when Congress passed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 giving President Clinton the authorization for regime change in Iraq? Section 2 (9) states: "Since March 1996, Iraq has systematically sought to deny weapons inspectors from the United Nations Special Commission on Iraq (UNSCOM) access to keay facilities and documents, has on several occasions endangered the safe operation of UNSCOM helicopters transporting UNSCOM personnel in Iraq, and has persisted in a pattern of deception and concealment regarding the history of its weapons of mass destruction programs."

AND during the debate for that resolution, most of the leading Democrats claimed that Saddam Hussein was a threat because of his WMD programs. And some of the Democrats went so far as to claim Saddam Hussein was an "imminent threat." THAT WAS IN 1998 -- three years before Bush would take office! Here is a list of Democrats who made claims that Iraq had WMDs: President Clinton (Feb. 4, 1998), Secretary of State Madeleine Albright (Feb 18, 1998), Former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger (Feb 18, 1998), Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry and others signed a letter (Oct 9, 1998) and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (Dec 16, 1998).

You are correct that Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11. BUT the group that is responsible for 9/11 -- al Qaeda -- had a training camp in northern Iraq before we invaded Iraq. That is a fact!

I served in OIF I and III and I'm waiting for Rep. Stark to apologize for suggesting that I illegally killed innocent people. On second thought, I don't want an apology. I want him to resign immediately! His comments were easily the most despicable words that have EVER been spoken on the floor of Congress! Typical Democrat.

To James Danley,Your post read,------------Finally, the Democrats were shameless in their use of children already covered by SCHIP in commercials claiming that failure to override the veto would mean they won't be covered. -------------There will be MANY not covered by a Childrens Healthcare Increase. Don't you prefer they put LIVE children out there rather than the ones who'll die, or be crippled, let alone the ones that will be devastated by health issues? Dems don't seem to be hiding behind anything, I see them challenge this issue nearly every day. But, I couldn't help notice you hiding behind "U.N. Resolutions". Please tell me why these children should be burdened with paying back the trillion dollars to China, that was borrowed for the Iraqui War, yet, denied Healthcare FROM THE SAME PRESIDENT.

James said: "It makes no difference whether there was WMDs or not." OH YES IT DOES. I doubt that Congress would have authorized the war if the faulty intelligence hadn't been hidden from them by BUSHIE AND HIS CRONIES. It's been documented and proven that Bush hand picked his intellgence and that it was disproven that 1. WMD's existed 2. Sudamm had ANYTHING to do with 911.

OVER A TRILLION FOR IRAQ!!!!OBL STILL ALIVE. REPUBS WON"T SPEND 35BILLION FOR CHILDREN!!!

IRAQ HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 911!!! FACE IT REPUB LOSERS.