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Banning Ron Paul

October 24, 2007 9:45 AM

As an apparent response to Texas GOP Rep. Ron Paul's internet-savvy minions, the conservative website Red State is banning Paul-backing.

"Effective immediately, new users may *not* shill for Ron Paul in any way shape, form or fashion," the site says. "Not in comments, not in diaries, nada. If your account is less than 6 months old, you can talk about something else, you can participate in the other threads and be your zany libertarian self all you want, but you cannot pimp Ron Paul. Those with accounts more than six months old may proceed as normal."

"Now, I could offer a long-winded explanation for *why* this new policy is being instituted, but I'm guessing that most of you can probably guess. Unless you lack the self-awareness to understand just how annoying, time-consuming, and bandwidth-wasting responding to the same idiotic arguments from a bunch of liberals pretending to be Republicans can be. Which, judging by your comment history, you really don't understand, so allow me to offer an alternate explanation: we are a bunch of fascists and we're upset that you've discovered where we keep the black helicopters, so we're silencing you in an attempt to keep you from warning the rest of your brethren so we can round you all up and send you to re-education camps all at once."

Ouch.

Hey, why are Ron Paul supporters advertising on the neo-Nazi website Stormfront?

-- jpt

UPDATE: Z. Byron Wolf Notes: Paul's campaign argues they have no association or affiliation with Stormfront.org. The Paul imprint on the stormfront website, says Paul spokesman Jesse Benton, is a "widget" available on Paul's website that "anyone that wants to can download and put it on their site. Hundreds of websites have installed our widget," he said.

There are no plans at Team Paul to ask Stormfront.org to take the widget off their site. The Paulians have not heretofore dictated who can or cannot fundraise online for them.

Benton said the people at the campaign "are not losing any sleep over this."

"This is not on Dr. Paul's radar. This is a staff issue. I don't think Dr. Paul has even heard of Stormfront," Benton said.

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I can't speak for every precinct, but our precinct in Minneapolis was very unorganized and unofficial. The room that was reserved almost seemed like they tried to pick the smallest class room on the very large UofM campus. We did have a record turnout, but what do you expect with the state that our country is in. The leader admitted that he had no idea what he was doing and actually held a vote whether or not he should continue as the precinct leader. With a Unanimous vote of around 217 he continued with a smile to fumble through the pamphlet that was provided. One young man who looked just old enough to vote came forward to help (he had taken a free class at the student union) and really got things moving. Kudos to that Kid. Because of worry of fire hazard we decided with a vote to split the room for the straw poll, and we moved 217 into two college classrooms each made for 50. The straw poll was suppose to be taken on yellow pieces of paper which we had roughly 30 of who had all the Republican candidates. Allen Keys, Mitt Romney, Rudi G, McCain, Tancredo, Paul, Huckabee, . you get the point. So with another unanimous vote we continued to take the straw poll on pieces of cut white computer paper which were passed throughout both rooms. Everyone wrote who they wanted for President and then the room started clearing out. I tried to tell a group of people who were migrating towards the manila envelope and eventually the door that they might want to hang out to vote on a delegate or something (I wasn’t too up on things either) and they said they just wanted Romney and could care less about the local guys. After about 10 minutes about half the room still intact the leader decided to conjoin the rooms for the delegate process. the Straw Poll results McCain 33% Paul 30% Romney19%Huckabee 12% Giuliani 1% Obama1%. With the 90 or so left we elected delegates, voted, and came away with a little better idea of how great democracy really is. Hopefully next time Minnesota's caucus matters I will be a little better prepared. Shouldn't you?

Posted by: Andy | Feb 6, 2008 12:44:01 PM

Red State has its reasons and they are real ones. The problem though is, it will create a buzz that gets the Ron Paul supporters going crazy and doing the old conspiracy theory deal. Either way it is MORE coverage for Dr. Paul which is always a good thing.

I do find it funny how people have put the racist site, spammers and everything else into a general "ron paul supporters". Remember we are all individuals who are taking back the country "black helicopters" and all lol.

Posted by: ron paul money bomb | Dec 19, 2007 6:02:14 PM

It's disgraceful to ban talk about Ron Paul. Shows how close-minded the GOP has become. All I know is that my children and grandchildren will be paying off the $9 trillion we owe, and we're still borrowing more. Wonder when China is going to come foreclose on us? It's not as crazy as it sounds...

Posted by: Topher | Dec 13, 2007 5:41:45 PM

It says everything when you people have for once a real human running for our biggest office and you attack then ban him from his own parties web site.
It's must be true what they said about the Republican Party in Ohio's last election. Can, "the hell with them, I'm not voting" be the slogan of the Republican Party.
Why bother voting, the election has been bought and paid for.
It's time to find some new hero's, I suggest from the ranks of the Military.

Posted by: dras | Dec 11, 2007 3:17:13 PM

I don't get why people say Ron Paul supporters are really Demarcates wanting to be Republicans In reality Republicans used to be for smaller government and less war and into a freer market. today none of this applies to the Republican Party. especially Bush who wants to starve funding from the country borrowing trillions more fight wars, at the tax payers expense, to profit himself and his associates. I'm also going to mention our All Crappy Dollar.

Posted by: Jesse | Dec 11, 2007 4:32:29 AM

I am a normal, conservative, intelligent, educated individual and I am absolutely offendend and horrified that anyone (or his supporters) would be "reprimanded" for believing so passionately in freedom. Haven't you just proven the message?

Posted by: Jaycee | Dec 11, 2007 3:36:28 AM

Yes, I guess Ron Paul is a nut case. Just as nutty as Washington, Jefferson and Madison. You know, those kooks who thought they could create this wonderful society through individual liberty and limited government. Where did they ever get a crazy idea like that? Just because that crazy idea worked is no reason to bring it back now. Well, here's another crazy idea: Ron Paul is the LAST hope for America. I believe it's God's way of saying, "I'll give you one last chance to save your country." If we blow this opportunity, I don't think we'll get another one. I don't think we deserve it. I sometimes wonder if we deserve this one.

Posted by: Ron Caravaggio | Dec 10, 2007 11:29:33 AM

Banning Paul from the web is disgusting and undemocratic. Banning any candidate from anything is disgusting and undemocratic! If you don't agree with Ron Paul, develop a cogent argument against him. Don't ban his supporters from speaking out! Goodness, what kind of America am I living in!?!?!

Posted by: RonPaullovesyou | Dec 8, 2007 6:02:41 PM

RON PAUL IS GOING TO WIN THIS THING
"Ron Paul doesn't have a chance to win. You can't fight City Hall. Death and taxes." It's all a bunch of enemy propoganda rolling across the our picket line. We saw it all throughout the Twentieth Century. Now, in the Twenty-first Century, it's time for us to stand-up tall, and to let the establishment know that we're not going to let them cram us into their rat maze anymore. We will no longer submit to their agenda of dehumanization and disenfranchisement. I don't know about you, but I'm concerned about what's happening in this broken and aching world I wake-up to each morning. I'm concerned about the systems of control wielded against us each day, and about the neverending, circular conflict between power and powerlessness which has been so corrosive to the American spirit. I want freedom, and more of it--not tyranny, and that's what you should want too. It's up to each and everyone of us to turn-loose just some of the greed, the hatred, the envy, and yes, the insecurities, because that is their most effective method of controlling us--make us feel pathetic and small so we'll, willingly, give-up our sovereignty, our liberty and our destiny. We have got to realize that we are being conditioned on a mass scale. Start challenging this corporate slave state that rules over us all. The Twenty-first Century is going to be a new century. Not the Century of Slavery. Not the Century of Lies. It's going to be age of Americans standing up for something pure and something right. What a bunch of garbage--liberal Democrats, conservative Republicans. It's all phony, poorly-staged, left-right paradigm designed to control you. It's two sides of the same coin--two management teams bidding for the CEO job of Slavery Incorporated. The truth is out there in front of you, hidden in plain sight, but they lay-out this buffet of lies for us to consume. I'm sick of it, and I'm not going to take a bite out of it anymore. Ron Paul is going to win this thing. The American people are too good. We're not a bunch of underachievers. We're going to stand-up together and beat the odds. We are going to get fired-up and use our creativity, our enegy, and our burning desire for freedom to show Slavery Incorporated that the dynamic human spirit of the Twenty-first Century refuses to submit.

Posted by: RealProphet | Dec 8, 2007 5:03:52 PM

Ron Paul is the cookiest of the cooky. And his followers are almost cult-like in their effort to push him on America. ButI agree with the moderator of the original blog. I believe that most of the spammers are liberals trying to end the war, so they pump him up and donate money, basically trying to rig the primary. They probably wouldn't vote for him in the general though, once they see his libertarian policies.

Posted by: warren | Oct 30, 2007 12:34:49 PM

Jeff - Well that show first that Ron is not a real Republican, and it shows your lost of integrity.

Posted by: spock | Oct 29, 2007 10:37:33 AM

If all the passionate supporters of Paul would spend more time investigating his congressional activities, they would find a lot more to seriously question. A chief example is that he has routinely inserted earmarks for pork spending to make constituents in his district happy. Then he hides behind his votes against the spending bills containing his earmark spending items. But those earmarks remain in those spending bills passed by Congress. Tell me, is that really virtuous behavior? His earmarks increase federal spending. Many have been for projects by the Army Corps of Engineers, many to funnel money to the Texas Department of Transportation (including one for repairs to the Galveston Trolley system), and one for Texas A&M University/Galveston Campus to convert the Texas Clipper for educational purposes; maybe this was the $30 million for the Texas Maritime Academy to refurbish a ship. And then there was the $8 million for the marketing of wild American shrimp and $2.3 million to pay for research into shrimp fishing. This seems like pretty conventional Republican politics. This year Paul has requested about $400 million worth of federal spending for his district – not exactly consistent with Paul's rhetoric on reducing federal spending and taxing. Paul the supposed constitutionalist has not found the courage either to support use of the Article V convention (gathering a convention of the states to bypass congress and propose constitutional amendments) as the route to achieving deep political reforms that Congress itself will never have the integrity to propose …
Here is some irony: With our thoroughly corrupt and rigged political system Ron Paul even if he makes sense in some important ways, has absolutely zero chance of becoming the Republican presidential nominee in our rigged system, regardless of his high level of grassroots support

Posted by: JL | Oct 29, 2007 3:21:48 AM

I could never stoop so low to let myself vote for a Republician, not would I let my friends. But, Ron Paul is not that bad.. don't get me wrong I still wouldn't vote for him, but miles and miles better than all the rest of the GOP canidiates.

Posted by: Jeff | Oct 26, 2007 11:03:22 AM

Did you see the last debate Ron Paul stated it was our fault, that was one of the times he got booed.

I believe in very small government and state rights so please. I was not stating my ideas, I was stating Ron's. And the funny thing is if it was not for him blaming US, and his nutcase supporters I probably would give him more of a thought.

Did America make mistakes, YES! and mostly all were done under Liberal Presidents, by not acting, Carter and Clinton being the most recent.

His idea of us becoming isolationists is wrong and deadly!

Posted by: spock | Oct 25, 2007 8:52:20 PM

Well-said, Greg8898! Spock is simply incapable of understanding that the best government governs least.

Posted by: chuck | Oct 25, 2007 4:01:41 PM

Spock, you stated the common neo-conservative talking point that Mr. Paul "blames us" for 9/11. You think Mr. Paul believes the world's problems are "our fault." You couldn't be more wrong. Mr. Paul blames THE GOVERNMENT for making foreign policy mistakes and inciting hatred of us around the world. Anyone who claims to be a conservative should have no problem with a candidate who criticizes THE GOVERNMENT.

Mr. Paul does not blame us. Mr. Paul does not blame our military. Mr. Paul blames BUREAUCRATS who like to meddle in other nations' affairs. We conservatives were up in arms when it came to Clinton's Waco and Ruby Ridge fiascos--because the government screwed up! Why have neo-conservatives like you decided the government NEVER makes a mistake in the realm of foreign policy?

BELIEVING SO FIERCELY IN THE GOOD OF GOVERNMENT IS A LIBERAL POSITION, SPOCK.

Posted by: Greg8898 | Oct 25, 2007 1:34:51 PM

Ps. The rest of the GOP candidates have no DETAILED healthcare plan to insure EVERYONE EQUALLY, EITHER (DESPITE the fact that they ALL claim to have one, NOT ONE of them has EVER ELABORATED on any)!!!

Posted by: mod rit | Oct 25, 2007 8:12:47 AM

And yet...RON PAUL IS THE FRONT-RUNNER.
It is easy to see when you peal back the controlled mainstream media covers.
Ron Paul's Head-to-Head Straw Poll Records (Win-Lose-Tie):
Ron Paul v. Rudy Giuliani 32-5-0
Ron Paul v. Mitt Romney 24-13-0
Ron Paul v. Fred Thompson 22-14-0
Ron Paul v. John McCain 33-3-0
Ron Paul v. Mike Huckabee 30-5-1
Ron Paul v. Sam Brownback 33-2-1
Ron Paul v. Tom Tancredo 34-1-0
Ron Paul v. Duncan Hunter 33-2-0
RON PAUL clearly is WAY out front.
I don't care if it is in red states, blue states, whatever.
Though the corporate controlled media insists upon only reporting results of the Iowa poll that Romney won at a cost of about $1,000.00 per vote he received, or Texas that Huckabee won by some great campaigning, or the Value Voters poll over the weekend that Romney and Huckabee both managed to do well in and Ron Paul still placed third.
That now makes SEVENTEEN WINS for RON PAUL out of thiryseven straw polls. Ron has also scored six second place finishes, and seven thirds out of those thirtyseven.
Now I am no rocket scientist...
But to me, RON PAUL is leading the pack.
But the mainstream media is not reporting ALL of the facts here.
WHY would that be?
Hmmmm?
Let me see. MAYBE we don't have a free press?
Get it right RED STATES and ABC!!!

Posted by: tumbleweedin | Oct 25, 2007 6:36:32 AM

I kind of wish ABC would ban the Ron Paul spamming too. I for one am sick of it!!!

Posted by: dk | Oct 25, 2007 3:14:17 AM

Ron Paul's ideas may be better than the rest of the GOP's, but THAT'S NOT SAYING MUCH...I mean, for one thing, his "good" ideas are NOT realistic, & secondly, he (DESPITE having been a DOCTOR) does NOT have any REAL HEALTHCARE PLAN for EVERYONE to be TAKEN CARE OF & AFFORDABLY (what would HE care anyway, when the healthcare plan of HIS OWN & HIS WEALTHY PEERS are already NICE & SECURE)!!!

Posted by: mod rit | Oct 25, 2007 3:07:45 AM

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