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Fem versus Fem

November 05, 2007 9:48 AM

Two distinctly different views of whether or not the attacks on Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, from her rivals have been sexist -- and whether her "politics of pile-on" retort of six men (7 if you count Russert) picking on her is playing the victim card.

But these views come from two long-established feminists.

In this corner, former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, D-NY, the 1984 vice president nominee, who tells the New York Times that "John Edwards, specifically, as well as the press, would never attack Barack Obama for two hours they way they attacked her. It's O.K. in this country to be sexist. It's certainly not O.K. to be racist. I think if Barack Obama had been attacked for two hours -- well, I don't think Barack Obama would have been attacked for two hours."

"We can't let them do this in a presidential race," Ferraro said. "They say we're playing the gender card. We are not. We are not. We have got to stand up. It's discrimination against her as a candidate because she is a woman."

(Query: Is Ferraro implying that it's tougher to be a woman in American politics than it is to be an African-American?)

In the other corner, Kate Michelman, former president of NARAL Pro-Choice American and an adviser to the campaign of Clinton's rival, former Sen. John Edwards, D-NC.

She blogs that "(w)hen unchallenged, in a comfortable, controlled situation, Senator Clinton embraces her political elevation into the 'boys club.' She is quick to assure listeners she is plenty tough enough, that she's battled tested, ready to play be the same rules as the boys."

"But when she's challenged, when legitimate questions are asked, questions she should be prepared to answer and discuss, she is just as quick to raise the white flag and look for a change in the rules. She then calls questioning, 'attacking;' she calls debate among her peers, 'piling on.'"

"It's trying to have it both ways; walk the fence, something Senator Clinton's good at. At one minute the strong woman ready to lead, the next, she's the woman under attack, disingenuously playing the victim card as a means of trying to avoid giving honest, direct answers to legitimate questions.

"As a woman who's been in the public eye and experienced scrutiny, as a woman who knows how hard it can be for women to earn their seat at the leadership table, how hard women have to work just to get the same opportunities, this distresses me."

"It is not presidential…"

What say you?

--jpt

November 5, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (7)

User Comments

Although I highly doubt that it could happen, I could see a situation in which I would vote for Hillary, as the lesser of two evils. I don't give a hoot that Hillary is a woman. My gut tells me not to trust her, though, and this whining and piling on by her feminist apologists won't change my distrust. Calling her out on her flops and flip-flops is not an attack. She should come out and tell us why she thinks giving drivers licenses to illegals is the right thing to do, even though New Yorkers oppose it by 5-1. She can't claim to be a strong leader, while claiming she can't do anything to release the Clinton White House papers. She should come clean on her three-decades-long involvement in ruining the lives of Bill's sexual abuse victims, most of whom were upper middle class professionals who were treated very ruthlessly by her while she was claiming she fought for womens rights. This 'men vs me' spin makes no sense. It's just a cold, calculated attempt to attract women voters. If it works, we can expect this ridiculous gender card to be played any time any candidate criticizes her for anything---because all of the other candidates are men. If it works, she knows she has clear sailing ahead to say anything she wants, and not get called on it. If it works, it is menacing for the tired, old concept of free, open elections.

Posted by: SteveW | Nov 6, 2007 3:30:58 PM

oops I see that Jake did disclose the Edwards connection. Sorry.

Posted by: cordelia525 | Nov 6, 2007 9:38:30 AM

memo to Ferraro: this ain't the 80s. That victim centric BS didn't get us - or you - anywhere back then, and it's not going to help us now.

memo to Jake: don't you think you should have disclosed that Michelman has endorsed Edwards?

Posted by: cordelia525 | Nov 6, 2007 9:37:36 AM

Ferraro is nuts. They would not have attacked Obama? Well, they have less to work with, I'll give her that. But Clinton was "attacked" with completely fair questions and statements. I put it in quotes because it's a debate between rivals - rivals who are fighting each other for the nomination, but more like fighting her because she's the frontrunner, of course. It's like getting in a boxing ring and complaining.

Kate is exactly right, a feminist with some integrity. I'm SO glad she's saying all this.

Posted by: Phoebe | Nov 5, 2007 3:56:21 PM

I totally agree with Kate Michelman's assessment. But Kate Michelman does have a conflict of interest here. So maybe she wasn't the right person to quote from the "other corner."

Now then, I wonder if Geraldine Ferraro is still reeling from the fact that her opportunity to become the first woman vice president was torpedoed by two MEN: Her running mate, Walter Mondale; and her husband, John Zaccaro. The former by being such a weak candidate. The latter by causing such a controversy for failing to release his tax returns.

Posted by: James Danley | Nov 5, 2007 12:17:19 PM

Being a female, I would like to see a female president. But not Hillary, she did NOT answer the questions to my satisfaction. I thought the questions were not difficult to answer. Imagine if she gets the nomination and has to answer questions from the Republicans regarding her failed health plans, etc. As a woman, I am afraid her failures would set us back several years. And that is why I won't vote for her.

Posted by: nadia | Nov 5, 2007 11:52:43 AM

This is great, she wants softball questions because shes a female, but yet says she can be a great President, Well here is some news for her When being the President whether Female, Male, Black, White, Hispanic and so on, the issues are the same, they do not change on who you are, you need to react the same as any other president can. You can not say to a country , you are only attacking us because I am a woman.

The question Russert asked were very good, she was pointed out because it was dealing with the state she supposedly represents, I am sure if the governor of Illinois was trying to fix the election with illegals Obama would of been questioned the same.

The fact she is playing the feel sorry for me attitude shows she is not ready nor should she ever be President.

We do not need a victim mentality person in the Office of President.

Posted by: spock | Nov 5, 2007 11:31:11 AM

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