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A tense Bill Clinton on Charlie Rose

December 15, 2007 11:14 AM

In an interview with the inimitable Charlie Rose last night, former President Bill Clinton said his wife's most threatening challenger, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, isn't ready to be president.

"It's less predictable, isn't it?" Clinton said. "I mean when is the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running?"

He called voting for Obama being "willing to risk it."

Which is more important? he asked. Electing a symbol or a woman who has done things to chanhe people's lives.

He suggested that Obama take a page from his life, and realize he's not yet experienced enough for the gig.

"When I was a governor and young and thought I was the best politician in the Democratic Party, I didn't run the first time.  I could have," said Clinton referring to the 1988 campaign he ultimately decided to sit out.  "I knew in my bones I shouldn't run. That I was a good enough politician to win, but I didn't think I was ready to be president."

(Historians may take issue with that explanation as to why Bill Clinton didn't run. The reason they cite is that coming off Gary Hart's 1987 "Monkey Business" scandal, those close to Clinton cautioned him that his personal life would be dissected and probably wouldn't withstand the scrutiny -- which would harm his beloved then-7-year-old daughter. Read more here from David Maraniss's First In His Class or from Carl Bernstein's A Woman In Charge.)

ABC News Political Director David Chalian watched the Charlie Rose interview and writes: "This interview was remarkable and perhaps quite telling about the mood within the Clinton world at the moment. I'm not sure that Bill Clinton did anything in this interview to advance his wife's cause. He appeared quite tense and almost pissed off that Barack Obama is running for president."

Chalian continues: "The Bill Clinton political brand about looking to the future and empathizing with the strife of the average American was nowhere to be found. He intimated Democratic voters would be 'rolling the dice' by nominating Obama. He tried to make light of his wife's campaigns pushing the Obama kindergarten essay thing as proof of his outsized ambition."

"Time and again he described Obama as someone who decided to run for president after only serving a year in the Senate. And he continued to pitch his wife as the candidate who has done most in their life to make positive change for the lives of others. Clinton also made sure to take his usual shots at the political press as well. He made sure to repeat his belief that all the Democrats could change direction from Bush and that all the Democrats are good people and that he will support the nominee. However, all of that seemed beside the point.  He spent considerable time talking in a way that made it quite clear he was trying to portray Obama as not ready for the job of President."

Our former colleague Marc Ambinder notes that "...(Clinton's) hands began to shake and his face reddened as he discussed the political thicket his wife finds herself in....Towards the end of the interview, Rose indicated that Clinton's staff was asking producers in his show's control room to get them to have Rose end the interview."

Yikes.

-- jpt

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First, Bill Clinton should realize that both Obama and Clinton share near equal experience in elected political office. As a woman, I think it offensive to judge less of Clinton's role as a political adjunct than of Obama's service prior to the senate. Former President Clinton is paying dues to Hillary (overdue - how surprising?!). I think both candidates are refreshing sincere. I prefer Obama for several reasons, primarily because he is eloquent and inspiring, not to mention that he doesn't carry former President Clinton's baggage (sorry Hillary, but you picked him).

To the above writer, it's "Barack Obama" or "Obama". If you are going to refer to all other candidates by their last names, do the same for him...

Posted by: Ilaria | Mar 21, 2008 9:44:14 AM

Bill Clinton, a very popular President among black and Hispanic population did nothing but fool the Black and Hispanic population into believing that he was helping them.

George Bush who many Blacks and Hispanics consider to be anti Black and Hispanic did make a difference for Blacks and Hispanics.

I would just like to point out that during Clintons 8 years as the President, how many Blacks or Hispanics were in his cabinet and appointed to high levels during his term?

I am not a George Bush fan for other reasons, but the fact is George Bush appointments of Blacks and Hispanics during his Presidency was unprecedented.

Hate Bush for reasons you may choose to do so but we should not be fooled by another Clinton as the President promises, who in the end will only be a puppet for Bill (The First Black President.) Joke! Do the research.

Sirron Kyles

Posted by: Sirron Kyles | Feb 10, 2008 9:34:51 PM

Where exactly is Hillary getting 35 years in experience. I just looked at several sources and I only see elected offices since 2000. She was hired by a college because of her husband and apointed or given several positions because of being married to either the govenor or president. But experience in elected office is not 35 years.

My wife is a teacher and I hear about it and discuss it every night. I'm an executive for a software company and she has been to conferences, meetings and discussions nightly about my business. Neither of us are qualified to do the others job so why is it that getting second hand exposure is qualified as "experience"?

Posted by: Dave | Jan 7, 2008 7:48:15 PM

It is so unbecoming of 2 term ex-president for Bill Clinton to carry himself the way he did during Rose's show. It shows that he is not a statesman nor a decent politician. These two--Bill and Hillary deserve each other. This is a good example of why we need a new chapter--new generation and new vision in the White House. The Clinton are not owed this important position. This experience his wife (or the Des Moines register accepted )touts is inappropriate. Since Laura Bush went to 40 countries, would she claim to be experienced in foriegn relations)? It's laughable.

As for Bill Clinton, I wish someone digs up the tape when he gave a speech at the democratic convention in the late 80's. He was green and graceless, and greedy enough that he gave a speech that went on forever, even after he was repeatedly booed by the delegates to get off the podium. Obviously, the young Obama has more grace, intelligence and savvy than Bill or Hillary had at the time and now.
After 8 years of Bush, let's turn the page and have someone lead this nation in a more positive way.

Posted by: AS | Dec 17, 2007 8:26:07 PM

Bill Clinton continues to lie and spin to us. I recall the speech he gave years ago at the "Democratic" convention and they were booing him off the stage. He was young inexperience and self promoting. He lacked then what Senator Obama has now which is wisdom and strenght. He needs to reflect back and be truthful about himself, even as president he showed a lack of wisdom and discipline in dealing with personal problems he himself created. If he wants to continue to redeem himself with his wife, I, applaud him but I do not support him in hi attempt to do it by getting her elected "President", it would be a terrible burden for all of us to bear.

Posted by: murl41 | Dec 17, 2007 2:44:43 PM

Bill Clinton continues to lie and spin to us. I recall the speech he gave years ago at the "Democratic" convention and they were booing him off the stage. He was young inexperience and self promoting. He lacked then what Senator Obama has now which is wisdom and strenght. He needs to reflect back and be truthful about himself even as president he showed a lack of wisdom and discipline in dealing with personal problems he himself created. If he wants to continue to redeem himself with his wife, I, applaud him but I do not support him in hi attempt to do it by getting her elected "President", it would be a terrible burden for all of us to bear.

Posted by: murl41 | Dec 17, 2007 2:41:49 PM

Clinton's words on the Charlie Rose show have been taken out of context for them to fit the echo chamber. There is valuable truth to the fact that Obamba lacks experience for the job. This is not a position for on-the-job training.
In massachusetts we now have a Governor who had his supporters that,"Together we can," "believe" and "trust me." This has been a disastrous learning curve for the new Massachusetts Governor, who had more experience than Obamba coming into this job!

Posted by: Cantabrigian | Dec 17, 2007 2:17:07 PM

Bill Clinton is a political Richard Scrushy. Just like Scrushy got off clean by stuffing the jury with blacks and preaching in a black church, Clinton uses blacks for his own purposes when convenient.

Posted by: L Robinson | Dec 17, 2007 11:24:00 AM

We want a change and his name is Obama

Posted by: Listen Up | Dec 17, 2007 8:59:41 AM

Bill is not helping Hillary - sour grapes.

Posted by: Sean O'Brien | Dec 17, 2007 8:32:30 AM

If Hillary wins in Iowa, it will prove the dictum that we have the best government money can buy. She will buy her way to a win with corrupt corporate money because the corpies want her in the worst way to win. She's in their pocket and they know it. Watch where the money flows this year. It won't be to the Repubs, the corpies know they will lose this year because of the Bush mess...but watch the big banking, pharmaceutical and telecom, maybe even oil money, go to Hillary. They can control her. Obama would be OK to them too, they could probably get to him...but Edwards is the one the Repubs are afraid of...he could carry the old Confederacy and is the only Dem to appeal to southern voters. I think they are really afraid of Edwards, which is why though I am very poor, I'm giving Edwards campaign all I can. Repubs are fine with the Hill and the Ob..but not with Edwards. He scares them with his talk of fixing the rigged, two-tiered system.

Posted by: JL | Dec 17, 2007 8:26:13 AM

I agree with some of what Bill Clinton is saying, but the truth of the matter there seems to be a whole lot of resentment in his tone of voice, sorry Bill. If the Democratic voters think that elected Obama as our candidate to win the presendential bid will win the White House, " YOU'RE AN IDIOT". No matter how bad Bush has screwed things up, the Republican party will tear this one term senator to pieces, esecially on foreign policies and immigration issues. All Obama has shown me he can do is copy other candidates position on things and ride Opray's back, we can't win electing him, I hope those that will be voting realize this.

Jeff

Posted by: Dem. Jeff | Dec 17, 2007 8:23:46 AM

Obama doesn't have Bill and Hillary's experience taking kickbacks, bribes and payoffs.

Posted by: JL | Dec 17, 2007 8:20:34 AM

This promises to be a most interesting presidential campaign. The Democrats can't seem to decide whether they want to blow their great opportunity to win the White House by nominating Bill Clinton's wife or Oprah's favorite senator. And the Republicans seem to want to concede holding the presidency by nominating the Rev. Hackabee. It will be fascinating to see which party is more intent on committing political suicide in 2008.

Posted by: Mike O | Dec 17, 2007 1:39:18 AM

A number of the commentators willing to skewer Bill Clinton haven't even watched the 55 minutes that comprise the Charlie Rose interview. What is wrong with this generation, so willing to take any interpretation and headline spun by the media without at least seeing and thinking through something for themselves. Is this the horrible legacy of MTV and Facebook that everyone is too lazy to scrutinize the the media's (echo chamber) interpretations and ingesting it hook, line and sinker? That's like taking the word of one witness of an alleged robbery without looking at further evidence and then spreading around the rumor without proving it.

I watched the entire Charlie Rose interview online today, and yes, Clinton's words have been taken out of the context. When he said, "it's a miracle that Hillary might win" - he meant it in the sense that she was far behind Edwards and Obama in having a ground campaign there and yet has done pretty well there. He meant it as a positive that she in fact might actually win Iowa.

Thank you Bernice L for watching and being objective. You said:

"I watched the entire Charlie Rose interview which was excellent.

As a supporter of Sen. Obama, I believe that the critics are taking liberty with former President Clinton's words.

Yes, no doubt, he praised Sen. Clinton. Everything he said was justified."

Posted by: bbln | Dec 16, 2007 11:41:54 PM

Amazing the sense of entitlement the Clintons feel for the presidency. Unilike Hillary who is where she is today due to who she is married to, other DEM candidates earned their position.

I also resent the statement that Bill made that by electing Obama, people would be just electing a symbol (here read race).

Am I missing something all is this same Clinton dynasty that always uses African Americans and their most scared institutions (the Black Churches) as symbols in elections.

The fact that Obama got into the race has made the votes for the African Americans extremely important. At least the candidates are now showing up earlier than they would have if Obama was not in the campaign

Posted by: Global Citizen Linda | Dec 16, 2007 6:54:23 PM

Looks like Bill is hard at work building that bridge back to the 20th century.

The audacity of hope sure seems to have the man from Hope more than a little shaken.

Posted by: Keith | Dec 16, 2007 6:15:54 PM

I don't have any reason to dislike Obama - on the contrary, on paper, he appeals to me a great deal. But I agree with Bill Clinton. If you judge him on the manner in which Obama has managed his campaign and his debate performances, Obama simply isn't ready.

Posted by: cordelia525 | Dec 16, 2007 3:06:38 PM

Once again, Hillary will only divide this nation. She may be a very good administrator and senator, but she just doesn't have the leadership capabilities to inspire this country as President. The reason that Obama is rising in the polls is that he has the charisma to inspire others. Honestly, the only way the Democrats can loose the presidential race is to nominate Hillary.

Posted by: Sam | Dec 16, 2007 2:46:01 PM

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid. Hillary or Obama, it's head Republicans win or Obama democrats lose.

Posted by: Republican | Dec 16, 2007 11:58:30 AM

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