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A tense Bill Clinton on Charlie Rose
December 15, 2007 11:14 AM
In an interview with the inimitable Charlie Rose last night, former President Bill Clinton said his wife's most threatening challenger, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, isn't ready to be president.
"It's less predictable, isn't it?" Clinton said. "I mean when is the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running?"
He called voting for Obama being "willing to risk it."
Which is more important? he asked. Electing a symbol or a woman who has done things to chanhe people's lives.
He suggested that Obama take a page from his life, and realize he's not yet experienced enough for the gig.
"When I was a governor and young and thought I was the best politician in the Democratic Party, I didn't run the first time. I could have," said Clinton referring to the 1988 campaign he ultimately decided to sit out. "I knew in my bones I shouldn't run. That I was a good enough politician to win, but I didn't think I was ready to be president."
(Historians may take issue with that explanation as to why Bill Clinton didn't run. The reason they cite is that coming off Gary Hart's 1987 "Monkey Business" scandal, those close to Clinton cautioned him that his personal life would be dissected and probably wouldn't withstand the scrutiny -- which would harm his beloved then-7-year-old daughter. Read more here from David Maraniss's First In His Class or from Carl Bernstein's A Woman In Charge.)
ABC News Political Director David Chalian watched the Charlie Rose interview and writes: "This interview was remarkable and perhaps quite telling about the mood within the Clinton world at the moment. I'm not sure that Bill Clinton did anything in this interview to advance his wife's cause. He appeared quite tense and almost pissed off that Barack Obama is running for president."
Chalian continues: "The Bill Clinton political brand about looking to the future and empathizing with the strife of the average American was nowhere to be found. He intimated Democratic voters would be 'rolling the dice' by nominating Obama. He tried to make light of his wife's campaigns pushing the Obama kindergarten essay thing as proof of his outsized ambition."
"Time and again he described Obama as someone who decided to run for president after only serving a year in the Senate. And he continued to pitch his wife as the candidate who has done most in their life to make positive change for the lives of others. Clinton also made sure to take his usual shots at the political press as well. He made sure to repeat his belief that all the Democrats could change direction from Bush and that all the Democrats are good people and that he will support the nominee. However, all of that seemed beside the point. He spent considerable time talking in a way that made it quite clear he was trying to portray Obama as not ready for the job of President."
Our former colleague Marc Ambinder notes that "...(Clinton's) hands began to shake and his face reddened as he discussed the political thicket his wife finds herself in....Towards the end of the interview, Rose indicated that Clinton's staff was asking producers in his show's control room to get them to have Rose end the interview."
Yikes.
-- jpt
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"As to Hillary's experience.... As a senator she introduced 339 bills.... Her performance rate, according to the non-partisan GovTrack.us, is "very poor" in comparison with other senators."
Well, for one, Obama's and Edward's records are so much worse. And Obama has had only 1 year of US Senate experience before running. Also, she's done more as First Lady. Her experience there is invaluable.
And: Somebody mentioned Lincoln as an example of someone less qualifed than Obama when he ran for the presidency. Firstly, isn't it funny that you would have to go back to the Civil War Era to find another example. Secondly, Obama's integrity is nowhere near Lincoln's. His is the most dirty campaign in this primary. He has said the most number of inaccurate statements about his campaign and his opponents by a wide margin. Also, the requirements right now are much more stringent than what it was before. It would be a foolish proposition to vote for Lincoln with his experience had he run for the presidency today. The presidency now requires so much more. He could still be a good president, but I would imagine him to be as effective as George W. Bush.
Posted by: Ralph | Dec 16, 2007 9:01:02 AM
In hindsight Bill Clinton might be saying Hillary Clinton should’ve never went to Iowa. The truth of the matter is there’s a chance that she might come in third in Iowa and she could’ve pulled third without even going. A lot of campaign resources were spent there and the image of the perennial frontrunner have been tarnished there as well.
Posted by: eNews Reference | Dec 16, 2007 4:59:33 AM
Hillary does worse in republican matchups than ANY OTHER DEMOCRAT. (in current national polls)
It seems the dems are intent on throwing away another election.
Hillary won't win in a general election. She's the most unelectable dem of the bunch.
Posted by: julie | Dec 15, 2007 11:17:37 PM
On the subject of Hillary's experience we keep getting nebulous offerings from her supporters like "Hillary spent her life working for substantive change." She's "been in the fight". Can someone PLEASE outline one real success of her political career. One real thing that we can all understand and judge as to what it means relative to her experience.
By the way, I am experienced enough to know that when Bill's hand start shaking like they were in teh Charlie Rose interview: he is seething with anger.
Posted by: Jabari Woods | Dec 15, 2007 10:34:39 PM
I watched the interview carefully with Charlie Rose. And now I've carefully read all the notes written and the different takes each has had on Bill's performance. Here is my take: Bill was as captivating as ever. He was clear, cohesive and energizing about his current endeavors around the world. On the issue of the democratic primary, he clearly advocated for his wife whom he believes (and probably is right) would make a fine candidate in the general election given her many years of service trying to help others. She has been in the thick of many anti-Clinton debates, both personal and political and she came out with a sense of self and purpose. She seems to have good character and wants to help turn this awful tide the country is on. Having said all that, I'M STILL GOING FOR OBAMA. Whether he is "electable" or not, he inspires me. That is what I want in a President!
Posted by: Didi | Dec 15, 2007 9:46:23 PM
As to Hillary's experience.... As a senator she introduced 339 bills, 293 of which died unnoticed in committee. Her performance rate, according to the non-partisan GovTrack.us, is "very poor" in comparison with other senators. Her experience consists of introducing bills that sound noble and/or currently critical, but she fails to muster the support to make any difference at all. Most of her successful sponsorships are for pure fluff.
Posted by: bk | Dec 15, 2007 8:59:42 PM
I don't care who is elected as long as it isn't the inevitable Hillary or Giuliani. These "public servants" must be taught a lesson that they are not entitled to the office. Their experience is a sham. An average person following basic rules of ethics and with advice of many qualified people in government would do a fine job as a President.
Posted by: blarp | Dec 15, 2007 7:54:32 PM
REGARDLESS WHAT CLINTON DID, OVERALL HE BROUGHT US AND THE WORLD REAL AMERICA. 90% OF THINGS HE'S DONE GOOD. BUT, DON'T ASK HIM ABOUT OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES IF HIS WIFE IS ALSO ONE OF THEM. I AM SURE GEORGE SENIOR BUSH SAID THAT HIS PET MONKEY WOULD BE THE BEST CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENT, BUT IT TURNED OUT HE WAS ACTUALY THE WORST ONE WE EVER HAD. SO CLINTON SPEAKING FOR HIS WIFE AND AGAINST OBAMA IS SENSELESS, IT SIMPLY HAS NO CREDIBILITY.
Posted by: BOBSTER | Dec 15, 2007 7:54:01 PM
Why don't the Clintons just withdraw from this campaign and stop trashing Senator Obama? This is not going to sit well with members of the Congressional Black Caucus or African Americans in general. Bill and Andy Young just need to give it a rest. This country wants to move forward not go backwards to the 90's.
Posted by: Carolyn Grace | Dec 15, 2007 7:51:17 PM
Regarding this:
"Dick Cheney has plenty of experience. Would we want to elect him president because of it? -You should ask this question to the Republican voters and you might be surprised by their answers."
I would not be surprised as Republicans are generally of two stripes : 1) rich, corrupt people scamming the hell out of the rest of us and 2) borderline retarded folks they scam into supporting them. No matter what happens, a percentage of our populace is always going to be corrupt or retarded.
Posted by: Walden Greenwood | Dec 15, 2007 7:51:16 PM
Why don't the Clintons just withdraw from this campaign and stop trashing Senator Obama? This is not going to sit well with members of the Congressional Black Caucus or African Americans in general. Bill and Andy Young just need to give it a rest. This country wants to move forward not go backwards to the 90's.
Posted by: Carolyn Grace | Dec 15, 2007 7:50:57 PM
EDWARDS deserves more mainstream media coverage. The mainstream media is attempting to make this a two way race. What happens when all the pundits and paid political operatives are wrong and the race eclipses Hillary Clinton and instead becomes one between Edwards and Obama? Moneyed interests in the corridors of Power in NEW YORK CITY, THE HAMPTONS, GREENWICH and other urban and corporate centers are behind Hillary not because they like her or believe her to be a credible leader but because they know the Clintons will play ball with Powerful interests and they incorrectly perceived her as inevitable. HILLARY CLINTON is BUSINESS AS USUAL, no threat to the existing social order. The Clintons and their DLC friends are chasing down funds from BUSH'S EAGLES. Their support is a mile wide and inch deep. No, I am not a Clinton hater. I am a Clinton realist, who volunteered on the 1992 campaign and learned my lesson. Nobody in the media ever asks the very obvious question. Why did the Clintons make New York their home?--MONEY & MEDIA.
Posted by: Christopher London | Dec 15, 2007 7:40:04 PM
Mr. Sleazy and Mrs. Cheesy... What else would you expect from the Clintons?
Posted by: Michael J. Weber | Dec 15, 2007 7:37:19 PM
I don't think Obama will have adulterous sexual affairs in The Oval Office.
I don't think Obama will be impeached, if elected.
Bill Clinton was a mediocre President.
And Hillary is the cuckolded wife of a mediocre President.
Bill sold out the American people with NAFTA, WTO and the Millenium Telecommunications act (allowing for media monopolies).
Hillary works for the special interests and ALWAYS has scandals bubbling around her.
It's time for a change.
It's time for an honest politician with integrity and vision.
Sorry, running on 'inevitability' is arrogant.
Voters don't have a choice because Hillary is 'inevitable' ?
NO THANKS
Obama/Edwards 08
Integrity counts
Posted by: MM Sierra | Dec 15, 2007 7:27:03 PM
The Clintons personal life is fair game because they have defrauded the American public about who they are and what they represent. Their home life is a sham, their promises hollow. They are soul less political creatures
Posted by: Christopher London | Dec 15, 2007 7:23:52 PM
Bill Clinton should not even be talking about the electorate taking chances. America took a huge leap of faith in 1992. In 1992, America overlooked the character of highly flawed man, with a background of corruption, drug use, pathological lying and elected him President. We overlooked the scandals, the womanizing, the lying and ties to organized criminal activity and drug running in Arkansas. Perhaps the truth is that in America the only way to raise the necessary funds to run for President is to sell one's soul to one degree or another. But the truth is that nearly everything written about the Clintons is TRUE. The Clintons are a FRAUD. Hillary is obviously a lesbian or bisexual and Bill Clinton has never stopped sleeping around. The Clinton marriage is a political marriage based around their own personal ambitions, hence the reason why they will do anything and attempt to ruin anyone who gets in the way of their governing. America would be better off if we simply turned a page on the Bush-Clinton era and looked for new leaders. History will show that back in Mena, Arkansas there was an interesting tie between the Bush and Clinton political clans.
Posted by: Christopher London | Dec 15, 2007 7:20:48 PM
I can't help myself: My adoration of Bill Clinton does not extend to his wife. Bill Clinton was governor of a smallish marginal state before being elected. He had other qualities, tho, such as the abililty to craft an inspiring message, ambition, intelligence, and a broad worldview honed from his study abroad. Obama has all of those qualities, plus he's an expert on the Constitution, advocated for poor folks, and served as a state senator. Shut up, Bill; you aren't helping your wife.
Posted by: cas2 | Dec 15, 2007 7:17:47 PM
The nerve of some people, challenging Hillary as the automatic nominee.
Memo to Hillary: I know it's not your cup of tea, but if you hadn't so long ago abandoned your, shall we say, "wifely duties," we wouldn't be in such a mess as we are in today.
Posted by: ProfessorVP | Dec 15, 2007 7:06:54 PM
I can't help myself: My adoration of Bill Clinton does not extend to his wife. Bill Clinton was governor of a smallish marginal state before being elected. He had other qualities, tho, such as the abililty to craft an inspiring message, ambition, intelligence, and a broad worldview honed from his study abroad. Obama has all of those qualities, plus he's an expert on the Constitution and served as a state senator. Shut up, Bill; you aren't helping your wife.
Posted by: cas2 | Dec 15, 2007 6:32:03 PM
I urge everyone to read Andrew Sullivan's article about Obama in December's The Atlantic. He makes a compelling and persuasive case as to why Obama should be President. Am going to save it for use in general election should he be the nominee.It will be a must read for your GOP and Independent friends.
Posted by: katie | Dec 15, 2007 6:30:31 PM
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