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Neither Rudy nor Hillary would enforce immigration laws because they both support AMNESTY. AMNESTY is waiving of the penalty of deportation regardless of whether a processing fee, penalty, or touchback provision are provisions. AMENSTY and immigration enforcement are mutually exclusive and contradictory. AMNESTY by it's very definition means no enforcement and AMNESTY will be an impetus to further illegal invasion.

They both are not trusted to be President they both look weak and will fail as leaders especially in enforcing the law.

My "Dec 22, 2007 2:27:03 PM" comment has the candidates' URLs. I wasn't aware of posting the "Dec 22, 2007 2:19:03 PM" version (without the URLs). My bad, presumably.

I think they both lied, or both parties are. Lets look at the budget they just shoved past us before reading it. Whats in it, funding for the FENCE has been halfed AND now DHS has to talk to 5 different parties including the citizens who's land it on and get approval. Anyone want to estimate how long it will take to build a fence with all this and 1/2 the funds. And they voted for this after they knew how the American Citizen felt.

Giuliani: "And if you ultimately find a way to make them citizens, then there should be a very, very strong requirement that they speak English, read English, write English, and understand American history." There SHOULD BE a very, very strong requirement? (Sorry 'bout using capitalization: the comment form rejected my HTML.)

Clinton: "You have to try to learn English." Have to TRY TO learn English?

Maybe Rudy and Hillary are just regular folks whose syntax I am scrutinizing too suspiciously--like they were lawyers or politicians or something. Still, I went to the candidates' Web sites; both acknowledge immigration as a major issue.

Searching Clinton's immigration page for the term 'English' yielded: "Hillary has advocated for policies to help smooth the transition of legal immigrants once they arrive in the U.S. so that they can add to our economy and culture...She wrote the Access to Employment and English Acquisition Act to meet the growing demand for English language courses and other job skills."

The same search on Giuliani's immigration page gave: "Require All Immigrants to Truly Read, Write & Speak English: Rudy believes immigration and Americanization go hand-in-hand. As President, he will propose that all immigrants who want to become citizens must truly read, write, and speak English and learn American civics. For the American experiment to succeed, we need a common language." So...how vigorously would President Rudy PROPOSE these things?

Attrition through enforcement. The U.S. already has good immigration laws. What is lacking is the political will to enforce those laws. The 1986 amnesty produced still another wave of illegal aliens -- and the threat of votes for candidates that endorse still another amnesty. I don't get rewarded for disobeying laws, nor do my family members get a break.

Reuben, you wrote: "Hillary Clinton wants whats best for Corporate America Cheap slave labor !!" The evidence doesn't support that claim. Sen. Clinton posted on her website that she introduced legislation to raise the minimum wage to $9.50 an hour by 2011. And then from previous speeches it is clear that Sen. Clinton wants to rob Corporate America of their profits so that she can help pay for her government takeover of health care Neither of these are in the best interest of Corporate America -- not to mention being disastrous for our economy.

Enforcement through attrition is the answer. The "roundem up all 12 million at once" scenario is a red herring. Enforce the laws on illegals and employers. The illegals will self deport. It's already working in Arizona which is ground zero in the country for this problem. The one thing you will not hear from the democrats is any plan to deport through attrition or any other method their millions of new illegal soon to be legal democratic voters.

Hmmmmm..., are you trying to tell us that Hillary can unite both liberals and conservatives?

Interesting..., probably should vote for her.

It is time to take some time off from politics, Merry Christmas, Jake.

Hillary Clinton Conservative ? leave it to
ABC The most pro illegal alien News GROUP
IN The Nation ! Hillary Clinton wants whats best for Corporate America Cheap slave labor !!

I can hear him studder when I read this.
If anyone doesn't take securing our ports, airways and all boarders seriously then the homeland security department is a joke. It has to start at our boarders. Illegals and their kids, 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc. cousins, nephews, uncle and aunts , , all ILLEGALS are NOT welcome here. It seems America is the only country that really doesn't care who gets into their country. All Americans should be concerned about this.

Questions, many questions. It all sounds real good on paper. Enforcement is the problem. After you elect someone how do you get them to full fill their promises. The politicians have to figure out a way to package solving this problem at the same time let big business have their cheap subsidized labor. Notice there is nothing in there that says they can't use public assistance till they are citizens. Big business is not going to give their cheap labor benefits so we will have to foot the bill for their benefits, thus creating more of a welfare state.