Iowa City Councilman Calls Mormonism a Cult

"In 1846, this same mentality drove the Mormons out of their homes, just across the river in Nauvoo Il., about this time of year, in the dead of winter."
--- this is because they were practicing polygamy. Somthing that Christians of the time found absolutely destestible to have in their community. Mormons seem to conveniently leave this fact out when they are talking about their church's persecution.

Again, calling the LDS church a cult is not an effort to be accurate (since the defintion of cult is pretty darn ambiguous) it is merely an insult and anyone who does so should be embarrassed. It's like me calling your wife a wench. True, any woman fits the definition of wench but it would obviously be insulting to call anyone a wench.

So just be aware that if you call my faith a cult, I'll just assume that you are rude. It certainly doesn't indicate that you have anything intelligent to say since few if any can even explain why the LDS faith would fits the definition of cult except in the way that ALL faiths do.

Christ put is best when he said, "by their fruits ye shall know them". If the LDS Church is a bad tree...how is it producing good fruit? You will be hard pressed to find a more decent, law abiding, honest, and charitable group then the Mormons.

At the roaring pace the Mormon Church is growing among every nation, kindred, tongue, and people you will soon realize that your bigoted voice is rapidly dwindling. America's bigots have always become the minority.

" How long can rolling water remain impure? What power shall stay the heavens? As well might man stretch forth his puny arm to stop the Missouri river in its decreed course, or to turn it up stream, as to hinder the Almighty from pouring down knowledge from heaven, upon the heads of the Latter-day Saints."

-Joseph Smith

If your a Mormon you should not be a presidential candidate because next thing you know it will be illegal for a black person to merry a white person ore else he'll be executed or throughn in the clank for 50 years. Or church being banned it's just not right.

Adamson is "going to campaign against Mitt Romney. He's a very educated man -- there's a lot of very educated people that are Mormon. Orrin Hatch is a Mormon; he's been in the Senate for like 100 years. But if you're going to be in positions of responsibly it does trouble me."

Is the counsilman troubled by all educated people, or all Mormons, or only troubled by Mormons that are educated?
I wonder how Mr. Adamson feels about educated Atheist women in positions of responsibility.

I wonder if remaining uneducated is the glue that Mr. Adamson uses to keep his faith in tact.

The Councilman and anti Mormons are scared of losing the Primary to a much stronger candidate in Mitt Romnney.They are chicken out already and go on the anti Mormon tactic which is all they've got to offer.What a lot of failure in these type of people with less undestanding of the real issues matters to most Republicans.How can this man become a Councilman if he doesn't speak and act like it,he sounds unintelligent and immature next to being a handycap.

The people on this blog probably have never read the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Convenants, or the Pearl of Great Price. Those are all Mormon texts that Mormon's consider first before the Bible. The Bible talks about being aware against false doctrine and against other texts that are not from God. Mormonism is not Christian because they do not believe in the Jesus of the Bible. It is a Jesus invented by Joseph Smith and nothing else.

Hmmm...
"I would personally consider anyone that believes god spoke to their churches founder through a magic hat as one that calls someones judgement into question. eh?"

That is quite the mischaracterization. That would be like referring to Giuliani, a Catholic, saying:

"I would personally consider anyone that believes that the wafer and wine in the mass actually becomes flesh and blood of a Jew who lived 2000 years ago is one that calls their judgement into question," or how about Hillary Clinton the Methodist:

"I would personally bring into question the mentality of someone who believes that the earth was created in just six 24-hour periods."

Moral: Don't try to mischaracterize the beliefs of another-you may misunderstand yourself what they actually believe.

Mormonism IS a cult. Get over it.

"In an interview, Adamson - who considers himself a Christian who believes that "Jesus Christ died to save me from my sins both now and in my future"

Could you be a little more condesending with your tone please? I don't think everyone got it. He "considers himself a Christian"?

"It just means I am never going to agree that they are Christians." -
Craig Adamson

If the councilman is trying to state that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not a "Protestant Christian" church, then he is absolutely right, and he just stated it poorly.

If he is trying to say that Mormons do not worship, honor, and believe in Jesus Christ, he is absolutely wrong.

The problem lies in the sentance where he states: "based on my knowledge of Mormonism..." Most Americans know little to nothing about the 4th largest church in the U.S., and usually receive their information from inaccurate or at least mis-informed sources.

Believe what you want, but LDS Church members are Christians in every sense of the word --just not protestant or catholic Christians.

You know, a lot of Trinity-Christian priests and pastors were afraid that endorsing Mitt Romney might help the Mormon church. What's funny, in my opinion, is just how much their efforts to persecute Romney for his faith might actually help the Mormons. For example, the idea of sacred underclothes that represent a promise made to God is not really very strange. It is only strange for as long as it is totally unfamiliar. The more they make a big deal about Mitt's holy undies, the less strange they'll seem. Also, there aren't really too many truly weird things about Mormonisms beginnings. Joseph Smith had visions and used material aids (seer stones, golden plates, papyri, etc.) to obtain new scripture. He and his followers married multiple women (in Joseph's case, some of the women were already married to other men civilly [and those husbands sanctioned the marriage]). Brigham Young said some racist stuff. Well, in all honesty, the only major practioners of multipe-wifery today are the Muslims. There are MANY muslims with more than one wife living in America. No one talks about that. And, for whatever reason, people are less shocked because they expect that from Muslims. The more the press bring up weirdness from Mormonsims early days, the less shocking it will be. It will soon be logged in as "those quirky 19th century Mormons did that" and the press will try in vain to find really good modern stuff.

Mormons ARE a cult.

There, I said it.

How many times must we Mormans turn the other check when we are called names, lied about and spit upon.

One of the strongest non Christian beliefs we adher to is the Saviour's, Jesus Christ, teachings of turn the other cheek and forgive all men seventy times seventy. This is why you will never find the Morman Church attacking any church or individual.

Don't you just love the open minded Iowan's.

In 1846, this same mentality drove the Mormons out of their homes, just across the river in Nauvoo Il., about this time of year, in the dead of winter.

Men, Women and Children were driven from their property and homes, which were then stolen from them as they were pushed across a frozen river into the Iowa wilderness, to perish. Hundreds never made it to the valleys of the Rockies.

The anti's thought the Mormons were
"dun in fer good, this time"

Well, guess what bigots?
"They're Baack".

Not only have the Mormons re-purchased properties which were stolen from them
160 years ago, they have restored the city of Nauvoo, even re-built their Temple, which was desecrated by "Good Christian Folk".

Nauvoo is now a larger tourist attraction than anything the state of Iowa has to offer.

Carry on with your attitudes, pass them on to your children, but just remember, that the Mormons know their history and your game is neither intelligent nor original.

You would have been there with painted faces at Carthidge.

Have a good day and have a piece of pie.

ajarizona

I would personally consider anyone that believes god spoke to their churches founder through a magic hat as one that calls someones judgement into question. eh?

phillygirl64 is correct. The term cult is so broadly defined that all faiths would equally apply. But what I find more disconcerting is that, because there is no specific definitional reason to call the LDS faith a cult, one can only assume that is is being done as a pejorative effort. basically it is an effort to insult, not to be correct (since the term is so ambiguous). When others call my faith a cult, I am tempted to call their wife a wench. Th term wench is often defined as a woman so I wouldn't be innaccurate to call a woman a wench would I? But let's be honest, it would be equally insulting and equally unfair.

in the beginning, Christ and his followers were considered a cult, too

Courtesy of Meriam Webster:
CULT
1: formal religious veneration : worship
2: a system of religious beliefs and ritual; also : its body of adherents
3: a religion regarded as unorthodox or spurious; also : its body of adherents

By definition, it would appear that all religions are a cult of some nature. We should all just let people believe as they wish. The only time that it should matter in a presidential candidate is if it affects his competency--and I believe that Romney's experience clearly demonstrates that he is more than competent.