Jesus and the Devil are Brothers?

Skeptic: If you don't care what happens after you die AND you don't beleive in any religion, WHY DO YOU CARE what Christians say or if they say or don't say "I believe" or "in my opinion".

If I were a true athiest, I wouldn't care what anyone said. I woudn't read blogs that have to do with religion. I wouldn't waste my time commenting on them. I'd just be off having as much fun as possible because this life is all we got right? Can you help me out with this?

i just wish christians would preface their statements with IN MY OPINION or I BELIEVE. that's all. and realize that there is no way to prove this issue either way (I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS AFTER I DIE. I BELIEVE IT IS IRRELEVANT !)there are a lot of religions and myths which may or may not contain bits or pieces of truth. no one can say for sure or has any right to assume moral (or any) superiority over any other individual or group. (YOU SEE THAT A LOT WITH RELIGIONS ?)

Scott
I do too hope for us both to make it.
I don’t have all the answers either, but I invite you to research our church.
I do believe it has the correct ordinances to make it there.

Good luck, God bless.

When I was young and inexperienced with the world, my Mom taught me an important lesson. At the dinner table I was bad mouthing a kid I knew and his family. My Mom got in my face and said "Look Son, you can never be tall by cutting off the heads of others." Some of you should call up your Mom and try to explain to her why you hate the Mormons or people of faith. Hopefully she will give you similar advice.

Skeptic: Don't confuse the issue...it's my opinion that it's fact. In other words, I have faith that the Bible is true. God requires and element of faith for salvation. First of all he gave us free will because he loves us so much that he would never force anyone to love him back.

Secondly, if he just showed up and started throwing lightning bolts all over the place, of course everyone is going to beleive in him out of fear. You'd be dumb not to. But he doesn't want that. He wants people to come to him out of love and a genuine need. I hope you will find him.

Sean: Honestly, I hope we both make it to Heaven one day. I recognize that I don't have all the answers and that God makes the final call where we end up. But until that time, I'm sticking to my guns and I'm sure you'll do the same.

I like your style Scott

We believe in continuing revelation and continuing prophets; hence Joseph Smith Jr. We revear him as a prophet like in the Bible.
If God is the same and doesn’t change, he will reveal more of his word and call more Prophets.

I can’t and won’t convince you about Joseph Smith. The spirit of God can confirm that to you through prayer if you choose to find out.

Please consider these Bible verses:

Amos 3: 7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

SO WHAT, doesn't Huckabee believe the Earth is 6,000 years old?

Scott: THANKS, you are the first christian on any board to admit that faith is an opinion and not a verifiable fact !

Sean: I guess I would have to beleive that Joe Smith was a real prophet from God, which I don't.

15"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. (Matthew 7:15)

My personal favorite:

1But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping. (2 Peter 2:1-3)

Skeptic: Yep, it's my opinion. That's where faith comes into play. By all means, don't beleive. That's YOUR opinion.

Bram: Stop posting the same damn thing every hour or so. Don't you have any other original thoughts in that pea brain of yours???

i dont do LSD and i dont believe god or an afterlife can be reasonably proven in the HERE and NOW (which in essence is all their really is !). i dont believe we should blame an invisible being which may not exist for everything that is wrong with the world or expect him to show up and fix it. i believe WE THE PEOPLE should take responsibility and accountability to each other and work together to make the world a better place instead of believing that the BOOGIE MAN will come and destroy it and us. i dont care who your god is, we're all on this rock together and what happens next is up to US !

I am LDS (Mormon) and the reason we don't argue about religion is because there is no purpose to it. Jesus never argued with people about their beliefs. Everyone can believe what they may, Mitt Romney has good morals and values as an individutal. We are Christians and just because it's different doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

People starving world wide.
Even Mother Theresa was wondering if there is a Heaven seeing all the misery world wide

Death of 6 million Jews. Which God allows that? The Mormons and Christian God or son of God called called Jesus Christ or the Devil

Frankly, I would rather believe in the Biblical story of Jonah in the whale for seven days. That at least is funny

Posted by: Bram Cohen | Dec 13, 2007 11:03:44 AM

Why blame God? You blame God when he doesn't stop mankind's evil the way YOU think he should....but I'll bet you don't submit to God and do what God asks you to do. Always blaming God for evil and never looking at man's unwillingness to submit to God. If mankind wishes to transgress God's laws, then mankind will suffer the consequences until Christ returns.

AHEM: christians had no problem supporting slavery here in the USA and RIGHT FROM THE PULPIT for hundreds of years ! (i guess that's not dicrimination ?)

Posted by: skeptic | Dec 13, 2007 12:17:39 PM

AHEM: and Muslims have no problem with it today in Northern Africa but you don't hear the UN doing anything to denounce it.

Hey, if Christians are going to vote for Romney then they should know how his mind works. Face it, one's faith has an influence on how they view the world. If someone was a Muslim and running for President, I'd question how they would handle problems in the Middle East. It IS important what our President believes and it IS important that Christians know that Mormonism is NOT Main-stream Christianity, although Romney tried his best to make it sound like it was.

RE: FACT: (i.e. LOOK IT UP !): early christian church fathers (read pope) determined that the birth of christ should be celebrated on december 25 to coincide with pagans celebrating solstice celebrations (mostly MITHRAS, but many pagan pantheons had solstice celebrations)...so like the bible, christmas is a tradition that is celebrated as FACT, but really ISN'T...(let's just bury our heads in the sand, SHALL WE ???)...MERRY MITHRAS TO YOU....

The real question is: how would you feel if a Scientologist was running? Would you have an aversion to him/her because of religious beliefs that you find odd? If not, then this debate is moot. If so, then each individual needs to explore the depths of their own aversion, and see just what the limits are. After all, one's religious beliefs, if deeply held, influence and color all great decisions. If the limits of your antipathy stop at core beliefs, then all is well; if not, you have to decide just how ancillary the doctrine must be before you won't vote for the person. I mean, really, isn't transubstantiation a bit hard for some people to swallow?

Scott: "I am a Christian. The Bible is the complete and perfect word of God." that is an OPINION and a SUBJECTIVE CHOICE, not verifiable truth or fact. (P.S. scholars have proven that the writer of revelations was talking aabout NERO CAESAR = 666)

Scott
I'm glad your a Christian.
How can one believe the Book of Mormon to be scripture when the Bible says we shouldn't add to the Bible (Revelation 22:18-19)?
The phrases "the prophecy of this book," "the book of this prophecy,"
and "this book" refer only to the book of Revelation. At the time
John recorded those words, the Bible did not exist; there were only separate scrolls
for each book. The first bound Bibles do not appear until the fourth century A.D.
Some of the earliest Bible manuscripts do not end with the book of Revelation
and, in fact, some of them don't even include that book and omit other New
Testament books as well.

Moreover, similar warnings are found in earlier Bible books. For example, in
Deuteronomy 4:2, we read, "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command
you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments
of the Lord your God which I command you" (see also Deuteronomy 12:12).
While mortals are forbidden to add to the divine word, the Lord himself is not
bound by such restrictions. God's word is revealed through prophets, and
it is through prophets that he has always added to his own word. Thus, we read
that, when the king had burned the words written by Jeremiah (Jeremiah 36:1-4,
23), the Lord commanded him to restore these words (Jeremiah 36:27-28). "Then
took Jeremiah another roll, and gave it to Baruch the scribe, the son of Neriah;
who wrote therein from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the book which
Jehoiakim king of Judah had burned in the fire: and there were added besides
unto them many like words" (Jeremiah 36:32).

AHEM: christians had no problem supporting slavery here in the USA and RIGHT FROM THE PULPIT for hundreds of years ! (i guess that's not dicrimination ?)

If Mormons are Christians, why did they discriminate against Blacks and Indians in their churches untill the 1960`s?