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Was Obama Slamming Gore and Kerry?

December 31, 2007 7:58 PM

I got yapped at the other day by the Obama campaign after wondering if Sen. Barack Obama was unfavorably comparing Sen. John Edwards to Sen John Kerry, regarding being easily painted as a flip-flopper.

On Monday Obama suggested that Kerry and former Vice President Al Gore were divisive.

In an argument about his electability, Obama compared himself favorably with Sen. Hillary Clinton who is viewed negatively by nearly half the country. Obama is viewed far more favorably by independents and Republicans.

Then he said, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller, "I don't want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats. We've done that in 2004 and 2000. 47 percent of the country on one side, 47 percent of the country on the other . . . We don't need another one of those elections."

What say you?

-- jpt

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Actually if McCain is the nominee which it seems he and Hillary was tied with hin in the national election. Obama beat him 48% to 41% i forget which university did this study though.

Posted by: rick | Feb 11, 2008 8:11:25 AM

obama is a gop dream if he wins because they know they cant beat hillary in the fall

Posted by: uncle jesse | Feb 10, 2008 10:37:04 PM

People RELAX. He just saying that he wants to UNITE the country. Thats it. Senator OBAMA is as liberal as you can get!!!

Posted by: Yusuf | Jan 2, 2008 4:36:27 PM

It's really sad, I like Barak Obama and I know that the Republican's are using him. This is really sad to see, allot of people are buying into the Barak can cross party lines and get votes. To all of you, these are Republicans we are talking about; do you really believe that they will cross their Repblican lines, not to vote for their canadate, but Barak Obama? If you do then Karl Rove is very, very good. And the tooth fairy will leave you a present. Don't you know Karl Rove and his entorage are waiting and watching and laughing at you. Go ahead vote for him and watch. I'll get back to you. It's sad.

Posted by: Victor | Jan 1, 2008 9:55:37 PM

Hm, I wonder what Truman's negatives were, or FDR's?

Either Obama's gaffes are getting milder, or the press is lowering its threshold.

In August Obama got burned in effigy in Pakistan for threatening it invade Pakistan -- moving US troops from Iraq to "the right battlefield in Pakistan and Afganistan."

In December he fouled up on the assassination.

Now this....

The first two times, instead of apologizing or defusing, he escalated. I wonder if he will do that again.

Posted by: 1950democrat | Jan 1, 2008 9:55:10 PM

The more I hear and see the primary election advance, the more I see Obama as the worst choice for our democratic party candidate.
Has American voters really listen to what Obama has been saying?
Obama looks more like republican Lieberman attacking our democratic candidates and our party, then a democratic candidate running in our primary election..
We need Obama as our democratic candidate, as much as we need another Bush or Cheney in office for 4 more years......

Posted by: Sporty | Jan 1, 2008 9:40:52 PM

It is a factual statement. Obama is right, and I do not think it is specifically about Gore or Kerry (although their campaigns were not the greatest.)

There is a very, very straightforward interpretation: Obama believes that he is able to break through the ideological divide and convince people on the right-leaning side of the benefits of the progressive ideals and have them on board to help fix the mess we are in.

Posted by: moomin | Jan 1, 2008 9:24:22 PM

The Obama supporters can't get their heads out of their collective butts and realize this guy is totally unelectable, basically a ringer for the GOP because they know he can't win.

The supporters can't give a coherent reason why the rest of us Democrats should vote for a closeted Republican. They fallen totally sucker for the media spin.

Posted by: Susan Nunes | Jan 1, 2008 4:23:44 PM

Jake, you're still a trouble maker ;-)

Reminds me of what our journalists used to be like, before we sanitized everything and focused on Brittney! Paris! and other nonsense.

Keep going.

Posted by: Jen Q | Jan 1, 2008 3:03:19 PM

This current smear against Obama started with Taylor Marsh, a Hillary booster and it is now fully dispatched across the internet. (Marsh's full post is plagiarized in this thread in full, without attribution, by the poster Environmentally Blue above, by the way.)

I have yet to see a transcript or a video of what Obama said, but even if the quote is accurate, it is quite a stretch to call it a slam against Kerry and Gore. That part is pure gossip a la Taylor Marsh.

I expect better from ABC News, although apparently I shouldn't.

Posted by: Joan | Jan 1, 2008 2:06:59 PM

Wow does ABC really want to be FAUX NEWS or what? What he says, if you can understand english, is ...

"I don't want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats, we've done that in 2004, 2000."

He wants us to unite instead of divide like we have in the last 2 elections. It seems to many people here have been drinking the Fox News Koolaid and I guess ABC is now serving up some of that koolaid as well. I don't see this as smack in either of the last two candidates faces but more of reality check that news writers and distributers should get in check with reality and their own bias opinion as facts. Is this the best swift boating you can do to this candidate? If it is you just sealed my vote for HIM!

Posted by: clayton | Jan 1, 2008 9:10:39 AM

so when do you think obama will be awarded a nobel peace prize ?

Posted by: skys | Jan 1, 2008 7:50:32 AM

My mother just called to wish me a happy new year from Florida. When I told her what I was writing she asked me to post the following comment. Obama thinks he can go to Washington and change everything. He does not realize that nothing gets passed in D C without the right connections and experience. That is why she tells me her and my dad ( a Regan Republican) are strongly supporting Hillary.

Posted by: C DEPP | Jan 1, 2008 6:50:47 AM

Obama wants to be elected President and he insults Gore and Kerry? How dare he. But it shouldn't surprise me for someone following in his realtives George Bushs footsteps.
Bush said during his first campaign Washington politicans can not be trusted to fix Americans problems. So elect me George Bush. Obama has said the same thing. Neither had or has any idea what their talking about.

Inexperince has gotten thousands of brave soliders dead in Iraq and no way out. And inexperience cost hundreds of New Orleans their lives.

And Obama is a politican who has burned bridges and played games to become the Senator he is today. And Obama declares himself Mr. Clean. How do you think he got the money to run his campaign?
Being a politican makes you dirty in the first place. Favors for political contribtions goes back to George Washington. There is no Mr. Clean politican out there, only a con job on the American people. Voters do your research. The only politican above it, is a politican that you have never heard of.

Posted by: C DEPP | Jan 1, 2008 6:43:12 AM

Interesting..lol..

Posted by: k B | Jan 1, 2008 6:24:53 AM

Obama makes a comment about close races in 2000 and 2004 and this is interpreted as slamming the dem. candidates? What a stretch! It's true, and we lost. The only way to get the white house back for the dems is to vote for Barack Obama. He alone has the potential to create a real mandate in the electorate and a real mandate for change.

Posted by: katharine | Jan 1, 2008 3:06:49 AM

Wow, that's quite a stretch. Obama has spoken about seeking Al Gore's advice and I know he respects him very much. But beyond that, it is a completely smear to refer to such an innocuous statement as an attack. Clearly, he is emphasizing his own ability to appeal to everyone. That is significant! Seriously, stop trying so hard to put negative words in his mouth!

Posted by: Anna | Jan 1, 2008 2:25:51 AM

“Obama is viewed far more favorably by independents and Republicans.”

Obama is completely lost by whatever his advisers and the media put into his head. He is now living in a world of his own. Hello! No Republican will vote for an African American with a Muslim heritage. None! Wake up!

Jake, you’ve got to wake him up. He is on a course of self-destruction. If he continues to attack other Democrats, he is going not only to lose the primary, he is going to lose the respect of his Democrats colleagues too.

Posted by: JL | Dec 31, 2007 10:34:06 PM

If you can't report the truth then don't report at all. Stop twisting what you hear to fit your own agenda.

Posted by: Rick in Texas | Dec 31, 2007 10:24:50 PM

I think it is at the least a criticism of the types of campaigns both Gore and Kerry ran (both were very, very poor); at most, it's a criticism of the type of politicians they were.

Posted by: John W | Dec 31, 2007 10:06:28 PM

Your Posting on Obama is a lie; it would have been carried by all the news media. ABC is a disgraced by allowing these types of biased minded reporter showcase their racism on ABC.

Posted by: Sam Lobey | Dec 31, 2007 9:26:39 PM

If you're going to post nonsense like this, then you need to expect people will take issue with it. Deleting their comments because they do is just weak.

Posted by: Mike | Dec 31, 2007 9:13:22 PM

I think this is reading something personal into Obama's comments that just isn't there.

Posted by: Rosemarie Skaine | Dec 31, 2007 9:10:15 PM

"Obama Attacks Gore in Iowa "

No one has reported on this yet. I got this from a reader who heard this went down in Iowa, then confirmed it and emailed me the quote:
"I don't want to go into the next election starting off with half the country already not wanting to vote for Democrats, we've done that in 2004, 2000." - Barack Obama


Going out in style.

Not only does Mr. Obama attack Kerry, but he goes after Al Gore, someone with impeccable credentials who the entire Democratic party rightly respects. As for 2000, I think Mr. Obama needs an American history lesson. Seriously, is there no Democrat Mr. Obama won't attack for his own ends?"

Posted by: Environmentally Blue | Dec 31, 2007 9:06:20 PM

Obama should have worried about losing DEMOCRATS, before the Republicans that probably wouldn't vote for him anyway. He surely has shown himself to be the hyocrite, liar and hustler that he is. Does this many have any accomplishments that he would like to speak of, or just that he is like George W Bush, no experience, no accomplishments, but can talk a good game of Hustle and represents Corporations instead of the voters. Yeehawww!

Posted by: LDP | Dec 31, 2007 9:05:31 PM

You gotta be kidding! Obama needs to come down to earth and realize he can't win. His inexperience, real leadership in congress, business or even in Illinois are slim or none and for him to think he can compete well around the U.S is like living in dream land! No matter how much money his campaign has now; money will not buy him the Presidency, his campaign is just based in hype, slogans and not real meat!
Get real Obama!

Posted by: Marion | Dec 31, 2007 8:29:53 PM

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