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I'm a white moderate republican and the way I see it is if Clinton wins the primary the Republicans win the General Election. I don't know why you hardcore dems don't see it but people hate here with a capital H. Not just Republicans but independents. This primary election makes her look worse. If Obama wins the primary Democrats have a good chance to win the general election, not only democrats but independents, AND republicans (such as myself) will vote for him. I became a republican so Al Gore wouldn't win. I stayed a republican so John Kerry wouldn't win. When will you Dems learn to pick a good candidate? You pick candidates that people love to hate with a passion.

Seems the repubs are doing a helluva job inatigating the two leading dems!

There may be unanswered questions about Obama - but what's really sad is we all know the answers regarding the Clinton dynasty... the blue bloods from Arkansas. Im not an Obama fan - but a fresh new face that doesnt have to have ride on the coat tails of their spouse is refreshing. Hilary is Bill is Hilary is Bill - no more Bushs or Clintons PLEASE!!!

im just disappointed that the first woman to be seriously considered as president of the United States of America is sniveling phony riding on her husband's coat tails. IMO the Clinton's view the presidency as THEIR right.

Just one question......what will happen if OBAMA is defeated.....Will the right wing press swallow thier venoms!

This is all amusing. one thing comes to my mind, how come everyone is chanting Obama as if he is am acomplished hero. Lets face the fact, Obama has un-answered questions. You think the press that is giving him a free ride will continue when he faces the replicans. The truth is that we all know who are behind all these. Its easy for him to past jufgement on the Clintons. Where was Obama during the civil rights movements? He wants to ride on the horse of MLK as a black president. Many white americans suffered, marcched and were criticise for supporting the movement. Please can someone tell me what OBAMA did for the civil rights movement. Check up the Clintons personally participation and his record while in office as governor and president. Its all simple Obama cannot lead, he lacks the ability. Oratory is not leadership. O, lets come back home. Do you think Obama can stand against Mccain or Hukebbe, questions of his drug use, so called muslim affiliation will be xrayed. Do you think the whites, considering the race card OBAMA is playing are going to vote for him to be president?.....You better wake. the whole truth is that Obama is being setup to see if he can undo Hilary, which offcourse he cannot. After the race card, i wonder what else his right wing press supporters are going to throw up. One thing interests me, the right wing press are not even given coverage to the activities of the GOP, that makes think, men what a country called America.........it is the America the beautiful.

greg.....i don't agree with the principle of the "super-delegate" system the Democratic party has right now......but its a no-brainer to take the experience and qualifications of either Bill or Hillary Clinton over anyone else running right now, for the best interests of our children, our soldiers and the very future of our country and our world.....

Yesterday, Bill Clinton said about Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton quote,” the establishment organization is with him and the insurgents are with her”. Yes, he actually said that yesterday. Do you think the Clintons are the insurgents in this presidential election or part of the established Democratic Party? I think that the Clintons are part of the establishment.

The establishment at large, including the mass media, wants to see a Clinton versus McCain presidential election. The reason is that both of these candidates are part of the establishment as well. This means
business as usual, the business of making money, not for you or me, but for themselves.

The establishment has been trying influence these elections on many levels, not just through the media.

The Democratic Party on a national level has super delegates consisting of high level Democrats who are part of the Democratic Party establishment who get an entire delegate vote all to themselves. Its very unfair, anti-democratic, yet not against the law. According to CNN right now, Hillary Clinton has 166 super delegates committed to her, more than twice her nearest competitor, Obama. Bill Clinton
himself is a super delegate.

In a similar manner, at the local level in Nevada the Democratic Party establishment weighted the new created casino caucuses to help the establishment nominee, in this case Clinton, win. Unfortunately for
her this backfired when the Culinary Workers endorsed Obama. The establishment quickly filed suit through their proxy the teachers union. The Clintons have spoken out against the casino caucuses as
being unfair. I agree. It is very unfair, anti-democratic, but it is not against the law.

I would love to ask the Clintons, "Now that you see super delegates aren't fair just like the casino caucuses, will Bill give up his super delegate vote?" or will both of you remain firmly entrenched in the
establishment, playing politics, business as usual, making money, not for you or me, but for the establishment. People are now saying, “Don’t vote for the establishment, don’t vote for the Clintons. Vote for change whether for Obama or Edwards”

I wish i could get an endorsment of a union, then hold a show of hands vote right where the union members work, with the BOSSES staring at you while you raise your hand.

Pity the guy who actually wants to vote for the other guy.

Well, I am buying what Bill Clinton is saying because he is ten times smarter than anyone making comments against him. If you don't under stand what he is saying you need to go back to school and I don't mean college. You know that as well as I do. There is so much jealousy and hate for the Clinton's because they have what people can't have and never accomplished what they did. That's too bad. Most of this generation only thinks of parties, booze, sex and drugs. You reap what you sow and if you want accomplish your goals in life then do it don't think about it. If Hillary and Bill Clinton only thought about it they would not have accomplished their goals. How many presidents can say their wife is a senator and then running for president.

Caucuses are frauds they minimize someone's actual vote. I agree with all that it should be a private vote(primary) with it. And who is going to ensure that all persons casucusing are american citizens, as Lou Dobbs has pointed out that half of the Culinary Union is illegal immigrants. One news channel reported that all you have to do is show your union card to vote. Someone has to be an idiot to not realize this is already rigged -just as Florida was in 2000.

And by the way whoever said(posted) Gore lost the election he won the popular vote, but lost delegates in Florida-Remeber all News channels projected him as winner and good old GW called up and said wait My brother is FLA Governor and it's to close to call.
Another rigged election sort reminds you of Chicago back in the 60's.

In the pre-Internet days of the first Clinton bid for office all of these petty and underhanded tactics of the Clintons could fly under the radar of the main media outlets. Bill, it is not 1992 anymore. Listen to your advisors and cease and desist with the allegations and attacks.

Chill out BillyBoy!!! Looks like Bill needs a little anger management.

Lordy, Lordy, who would think the Clintons would ever try and sway an election??? Me and about half the free world that's who.

So we are to believe culinary workers votes count 5 times those of everyone else...Bill really GIVE US A BREAK!!! Filing a lawsuit against an election process that's days away...really a desperate act. Saying the voters will be intimated by the bosses at the caucus sites is just plain ridiculous. If voters were intimidated don't you think they just wouldn't vote. If they want a chance to speak out and really be heard...don't you think they will vote.

Why are some top Democrats just now starting to come out in support of Obama? A late apology from a black leader??? Do you hear the sound of thunder in the air??? It is the sound of an uprising against the Clintons. After all those years of having the Clintons crammed down our throats, the dynasty is about to fall. Fear of heavy handed tactics is fading.

Bill's tirades need to go....he needs to go...Hillary needs to go.

In a perfect world we would have primaries only (except maybe Iowa for traditions sake) so votes are confidential. But Hilary was more than willing to take the union's endorsement under the caucus system and I see no proof that casino votes count fine times than other votes. While voting at work has it's draw backs, especially in a public setting, when you have a 24/7 industry I can see the benefits. I think Obama is a good man, not a saint, and the Nevada system while imperfect is the system in place. Sometimes I feel Hillary has an air of entittlement, that this was to be her time to rule and there is anger that others aren't following their script. The one person who can unite and energize the Republicans is Hilary. The right has unafairly made her into a demon character that in their minds is more leftist than she is in reality (for example the biggest recepient of insurance industry donations is Hillary who advocates making purchasing health insurace mandatory. The right has made her the source of all leftist evil and some on the left have made her into a secular saint. She is in reality a politician with lot's of experience not much accomplishments. Too many people have too negative a feeling about her, while I know conservatives who have a good impression of Obama. Voters might or might not vote for him, but he will at least be considered on his merits.

It was FINE last year when Hillary was leading and thought SHE had the Culinary Endorsment...but when it went to Obama, VOILA! A LAWSUIT!!

IS this what America needs? More slimy Politicans?

Obama 2008.

I didn't know Clintons were so disparate.. I am a lifelong democrat and I used to like them but now I am absolutely against them. If Hillary is nominated I am not going to vote in the next election. We had enough of Bush and Clintons.. They only know how to divide this country for their own benefit.. We are just tools to them nothing else...

What concerns me is the possibility of voter intimidation by the Union/s.

Voter intimidation cannot & should not be tolerated, ever.

Clinton is wrong. Read the law. the casino caucuses could get at most 6% of the delegates. How is that 5 times as much? The casino caucuses were set up precisely to give people a chance to make their vote heard. Of course the Clintons knew exactly what the decsion was about. They just didn't dream that the culinary union would back Obama. So now that they have, all of a sudden he is the 'establishment' candidate? Give me a break, Bill. You are not good for your wife's campagn.

Jen, it is you -and all the other Obama supporters who act if Bill and Hillary Clinton just popped up yesterday. They are who they are, a lot of people hate them. I don't like them either, but rational thoughtful people who care about the country can see what a dangerous disaster Obama would be if elected.

Well First this is why unions should not be involved in politics! And they definitely should not be telling their members how to vote!

This is illegal! and The Obama Campaign should speak up and tell the union to lay off!! (unless of course Obama is behind it)

I really hate defending Hilary, but it seems Obama is worse at the dirty tricks then her, he has his surrogates go out and attack!!

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