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For all of you who are for Obama I suggest you go to (Info about Obama's family (tribe) in Kenya Africa) and see what our missionaries in Africa have to say about him, it will give you the chills.

I yearn for the days when Hillary will order her stormtroopers to break down our doors and stick machine guns in the faces of our children. Oh, please elect Hillary, please....

oh no, she got angry? What a pathetic commentary. Post when you have something insightful to say. What a moron!

Please dont vote for her. It was very clever for the devil to disguise himself as a women, truly genius and scary. You watch- six months after being elected, churches will be closed by force; after a year, they'll be forcing us to surrender our firearms, forfeit our freedom of speech and press; a day later half of the american population will be dead for refusing to coply with tyranny; and by the time her term is up it won't matter because dictators don't have terms that end at the end of an allotted time, and Dictator of Earth, Hillary, spawn of all sin, will rule all with an iron fist. See, i've considered the consequences of the actions i may take, and should do the same. Vote for not Hillary.

Frankly, I do not think I understand what Jake is trying to say. Senator Clinton was clear, concise and delivered her message loud and clear. So Senator Clinton showed some emotion - at least it was real which is more than I can say about the fary tale that Obama is spinning.

"Since you are attacking the Clintons it was the GOP who mounted such Ken Starr investigations..."<--You mean Janet Reno, don'tcha, DV? Get your facts straight and spare me your tedious fact-free spin. Your boy was not impeached for adultery, but for lying his face off under oath.

"To get your facts straight President Johnson was the first president to be impeached in 1868..."<--What part of "America's first *ELECTED* impeached president" managed to zip right past you, DV? Don't quit your day job for an American History teaching gig.

anyone gotten on obama website? you can not even leave a comment!

Soon people will settle down and ask themselves if Obama a freshman senator, with only two years of national office under his belt, can really be president. In the middle of a war, are we going to put a man with absolutely no foreign policy or armed services oversight credentials into the White House?

Can anyone give the experience OBAMA HAS?

HEY Clarence Styles- What, men can get mad but not women? Go tell your wife and let's see if she gets mad!

Yeah, sorry, that's not angry, that's emphatic and tough. And it's crap to call it angry. I'm not convinced about Clinton, but I'm much happier to see that she's not just a backroom dealmaker, but an impassioned advocate for herself. The clip of her appearance today in the coffee shop is also a plus for her in my book. On the flipside, Obama is looking thinner and thinner in these appearances. As a Chicago Democrat, I was an early fan and now I'm beginning to believe he's playing a game and just trying to not to mess up some good momentum instead of driving for a result he believes in. He's running because he can and you should run for President and be President if you have the opportunity. But that doesn't mean I should vote for him.

I am not a Hillary supporter, but I have to wonder what video clip Jake Tapper is talking about. Because I don't see an angry or heated Hillary in the clip he links. She simply seems emphatic -- as she should be in a debate especially when she is responding to a criticism.

One does have to wonder why a perfectly ordinary moment in a debate is singled out as a display of inappropriate anger. One does not want to assume sexism (perhaps unconscious sexism) lightly, but my only other response to Tapper's interpretation is What the ?!?!?

Folks, put your mark on your score card. Obama is noting more and nothing less than another George Bush wearing the mantle of the Democratic party. He knows nothing about government oversight or government financing. Nothing about India or China; less about Korea. And worse, he does not know the kinds of leaders needs to head up cabinet posts. (Oprah will probably be Secretary of Agriculture, Jesse Jackson Secretary of Human Services, Mr. Bradley (the DC Mayor) in charge of the Food and DRUG Admin.)
Mount the dias, Mr. Obama Bush!!! Lead us on to yet another know-nothing-presidency.

Gee Tony- Look who sounds angry now a whole bunch of you, your last blog seemed more angry then Clinton in the debate. To get your facts straight President Johnson was the first president to be impeached in 1868, later aquitted just like Clinton, but Johnson only by one vote.

Here are some facts:

"On Friday, February 12, television cameras were once again turned on inside the chamber and senators gathered in open session for the final roll call. With the whole world watching, senators stood up one by one to vote "guilty" or "not guilty." On Article 1, the charge of perjury, 55 senators, including 10 Republicans and all 45 Democrats voted not guilty. On Article 3, obstruction of justice, the Senate split evenly, 50 for and 50 against the President.

With the necessary two-thirds majority not having been achieved, the President was thus acquitted on both charges and would serve out the remainder of his term of office lasting through January 20"

So Tony impeachment proceedings were started but he was not impeached and finished out his presidency.

Since you are attacking the Clintons it was the GOP who mounted such Ken Starr investigations into things to try and destroy the Clintons. But funny when G. W. Bush got into office he and his cronies signed into law a bill banning such investigations like the one Ken Starr put forth against the Clinton's. Any guess why- he would have been long gone.

Now seeing that it was over affairs the impeachment proceedings alot more Presidents including Kennedy would have been long gone.

And it was Nixon who signed a plea so later to be pardoned after he resigned from the office; not Clinton. He never signed a damn thing. So get your facts straight instead of listening to the rumor mill and do some research.

It is so dis enheartening reading that the genx and geny generation want someone hip. It shows how immature that is, this is not a popularity contest like when you were in Middle school voting for class president. This is America an entire country , that is at stake. And you have people saying they want someone hip, that is not so yesterday. Well people without yesterday, there could not have been a today. So wake up and grow up. Gen y and Gen x(who dont have mortgages to pay and utilities, aren't feeding 3 kids and working at the same time) You guys just go with who is hot for the moment and when Obama fizzles out and you get bored with him you just cant turn him off or fire him. You are stuck for 4 years. You gus want miracles n, next day results since most of you have only had to live in the very accesible society with all the technology we have today. Wake Up, Well no one has done miracles in office and it takes more than just some young upcoming brash democrate to change the political machine that has grown over decades it isn't going to happen, asap.

So if you guys want Obama, someone who talks down to you and talks in circles never giving any clearly defined plans or strategies. Then so be it.

But we will see in 4 to 8 years if he becomes president who has egg on thier face, when we are hated more around the world, when you gen x and Y are paying 4.00 a gallon for heating oil, your prescriptions and healthcare skyrocket even more than they are now. When you are putting food on the table for your kids, while trying to work a 60 hour a week job just to make some of the bills.

So we shall see who has egg on thier face then.

I know why she is so angry its because she is number one one Judicial Watch's, Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007.
Anyone who votes for her is doing us a great disservice!

for all you people still sayig we are veating on hillary for no reason : PLEASE TRY TO TELL ME A FEW OF THE MONUMENTAL CHANGES SHE SAY SHE HAS MEAD OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS OF BEING A LAWYER, GOVERNORS WIFE, PRESIDENTS WIFE AND A MEDIOCRE SENATOR ..... THE ONLY ONE I HAVE SEEN IS A HOORIBLE ATTEMPT AT HEALTH CARE WHICH NEVER GOT OFF THE DRAWING BOARD BECAUSE OF HORRENDOUS FLAWS ..... if you cant please stop telling us we are picking on the self appointed queen

Obama has shown very little character in his life being a party boy druggie during his youth. Has the man had to make one tough decision in his life? or does he hide behind Oprah and the race card?

She's been nothing but an enabling doormat for her disgraced husband for decades, declaring full-fledged war on any of his victims who've ever dared to blow the whistle on him, yet has the nerve to position herself as a champion of women. The gall this woman has is beyond mind-boggling. And she wonders why Obama took the women's vote in Iowa.

Please God, don't let Hillary win...I don't want to move to Canada!

I want the first woman President to be a person of integrity and honor...not a joke, married to a bigger joke that she lied about to save face!

The most bizarre Gibson moment was after a lengthy video build-up for a question about the aging baby boom generation and Medicare and Social Security programs running out of money... Gibson turned to Hillary and asked her to set forth what makes her a better candidate than Obama. What?! Where did that come from? Hillary was obviously ready for Charley's soft ball. Makes me wonder about Charley Gibson's bias.

"OH Please, Tony where were you 16 years ago...?" <-- I was the one standing there with the sign in your face, saying "CHARACTER COUNTS," DV, and eight years later, you were the one standing there with egg all over your face after America's first elected IMPEACHED president signed the plea bargain, confessing his BIG LIE, to avoid being hauled into court on charges of perjury and obstruction. You remember, don'tcha, DV? It was shortly after he had pardoned Marc Rich.

So here we are again, and guess what? CHARACTER STILL COUNTS, which is why Obama beat your document-shredding girl's voluminous kiester in Iowa, and appears perched to do the same in New Hampshire. Put that in your report to Chillary Campaign Headquarters, and tell the Empress that her "victim of misogyny" message isn't resonating any better than her "victim of a vast Iowan conspiracy" did, or her newly crafted message of "change" is.

Um, Al Gore WON the popular vote in 2000.

So the likability issue did not decide the election.

I'm still undecided, so I don't have any axe to grind. I fact I can't even decide whether to us the word ax or axe.

I also don't know why I'm wasting my time responding to an exhaggerated comment by Jake Tapper about Hillary's "angriness". It's like a art critic explaining the meaning of a abstract piece of modern art without even talking to the artist.

I would suggest Jake find something more substantial to talk about and to be more insightful rather than being inciteful.

I'm not a Clinton supporter, but I don't see anything even remotely objectionable in her tone or delivery in this clip. I have no idea what the fuss is about. Are you sure you linked to the correct clip?

OH Please, Tony where were you 16 years ago when the first Bush had us at War, left Florida in a mess after a hurricane and left us a huge deficiets. That the Clinton administration pulled us out of. Oil prices wern't over the roof, as well as the other utilities during his administration. Which this is not about, this is about who can lead us. Obama may be a talker but he is not a leader and I will say it again. He will turn his back on us all, he is the type who will save himself before he jumps in to save you.

You voter's just need to wake up for Barak is lame and so will his presidency. Why don't you just ask the some in Illinois how they feel about him. He is a political ploy for all you Clinton haters.

They say that the yound voters want a change, well these young voters that want a change are all still living with Mommy or Daddy, spoiled these days and being a supervisor for my employment seen in the last several years in hiring, that the up and coming youth that is here is lazy, they have no work ethics for every thing has been handed to them. And because they are riding the Obama bandwagon we are holding our future in thier hands. Well that scares me. You might as well vote Brittnay Spears into office then if you are going to vote for Obama. Look at our world when a story about a pop queen is right up there with Election Coverage it is sickening.

It is also sickening that people keep implying about personal stuff when attacking Hillary. Are any of you married, you all lead perfect lives, have perfect brothers or sisters. Are Obama's parents saints, question were they even married, but oh talk about morals issues.

I am so sick of every one saying he is going to change things-what exactly do you think he is going to do come in and wave a magic wand and every thing is going to be better. NO! Nothing is going to happen, it takes years to recoup what this country has lost and it starts with foriegn policy and economic recovery for we are on the fringes of another cold war due to the Bush policy's we have gone back 30 years. With China, Russia and Iran becoming so powerful, while we continue to weaken.

What makes me sicker are all pundits falling into this Obama's bandwagon. I've lsiten to him and again he is lam, stuffy, and isn't right for this country. You can see it he can't lead, he may have voters backing him, but when congress and the lobbyist(seeing he already has one in his group) get to him he will be fresh meat. He is not strong enough for Washington.

He is not a leader and would be nowhere right now if Oprah did not back him. That was the only push he needed. Trust me one thing I have been able to go all these years is read people, and I am calling this one as I see it.

Plus men are afraid to have a woman president, when all countries middle east as well have had woman leaders.

Dems will be doing themselves in, if Obama is voted in.

I hate to say it, I am with the person who said that they will go to the republican fray if he should get in. For we will be sitting ducks in a dagerous world if he should be our president.

If Hilary were a man, or a woman who had not been married to a former president, no one would be considering her for a minute as a candidate for this office.

I am a very strong willed woman who would like nothing better than to see a female president of our country. But I would rather a woman be elected in spite of the fact of her gender. Because that would mean her policies and everything she stood for would be so compelling that her gender would be irrelevant. Indira Gandhi and gold Meir got to be Prime Ministers of India and Israel decades ago because of what they stood for, not because they were women.

When Hilary said that she embodied change because she would be the first woman president, she looked like an absolute idiot - like the total self-absorbed creature that she is. Does she think that trumps being the first black person to be president? Did she forget that there was another candidate who would be making history, if elected? The fact that Obama did not make the obvious reply showed just how enormously classy he is.

We do not need the polarizing presence of the Clintons in the White House again. For the last 16 years we have had our presidents ridiculed by the entire world because of their scandals. And Hilary is noticeably the only Democratic candidate playing dirty politics - she seriously does not at all get that the change Obama is talking about is everything she and her husband represent, as well as Bush and all his garbage.

I get sick and tired of how every time someone says something negative about Hillary then its assumed to be because she is a woman. Or if they say something negative about Barack Obama then it is assumed to be because he is black. Do I think that Hillary's response is a reason that she should not be elected? No. There are plenty of other perfectly good reasons why she should not win the democratic nomination--the main one being because she is unelectable. In this election she has poll-tested every issue before taking a stand, she has been the last candidate to offer up proposals and her proposals have been shallow at best. Her healthcare plan was a watered down copy of the Edwards healthcare plan which Edwards offered well before she did. She has attempted to pick up the mantle of change only after John Edwards and Barack Obama used it successfully. She claims to have taken part in all the good decisions during the Clinton presidency, but distances herself from the bad ones. If she was really as integral in the decision making of the Clinton Whitehouse, then perhaps she should be held to blame for Don't Ask, Don't Tell, which she says she would repeal, she should be blamed for the huge healthcare fiasco that absolutely did happen under her watch, NAFTA which has moved hundreds of thousands of jobs to faraway lands, and every other failure of the Clinton years--and there were many. If Hillary really wants to talk about flip-flopping perhaps she should re-examine the "changes" made during the Clinton presidency because her words aren't matching the actions that were taken in the 90s. The people who try to play the race card or the gender card, please. If you can not defend your candidate on anything other than what they have in their pants or what the color of their skin is then you should rethink your reason for supporting that candidate. In fact, perhaps you shouldn't even vote at all. 2008 is too important for some idiot who votes on individuals instead of issues to even cast a ballot...if that is the best you can do then stay home.

If it takes a village to raise a child, what does it take to get Chillary's deadbeat-dad brother, Tony Rodham, to pay the $75,000 he owes in child support?

Jake, I think Hillary's "anger" was directed at Edwards, not Obama. I really felt sorry for her for having fallen into Edwards' trap. We all know Edwards was a good trial lawyer, and is capable of eliciting the "desired response" from people using the the power of emotion.

Well, this useless opportunist got the response he wanted from Hillary. He should probably believe now that he has increased his chances of being picked as VP by Obama, should Obama succeed in getting the nomination.

Well, Obama isn't stupid. Obama will be "nice" to Edwards, but this dude will surely not be Obama's VP running mate. Obama knows how to play this dude, too.

Hillary's "anger" over Edwards' statements was justified, even in a public forum such as the debates. This dude has nothing good to show from all his years in public life.

"Heaven forbid that women should ever show anger and righteous indignation."

More like self-righteous entitlement in Chillary's case.

"PEOPLE WAKE UP-DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE YOU DID 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!"<--DV fails to realize that Dems HAVE woken up and don't want to make the same mistake they did SIXTEEN years ago.

Hillary is ridiculous. What is her "35 years of experience?" Let's hear something specific. She said lots of thing like she had worked to promote [this or that] agenda" or she has been a champion of [this or that] issue. What has she actually done?

Her attempt to "change" health care the first time went down in flames and was largely criticized for being too closed-door, secretive and poorly managed.

So, for what I can see, she's 0-1 on change that she's attempted to lead (not just "champion" or "work for."

If close proximity to the President is qualification, we should vote to elect Barabara Bush. Look at the long "experience" and resume of her husband -- also a few choice activities he is not renown for.

She's so guided by polls. Change was absent from her talks until she got trounced in Iowa. Typical to her past, she then changes based on the polls and now she's about change.

I'm a lifelong Rebubican -- former Chicagoland precinct captan. I have a daughter named Reagan (which should be a hint of my preferences).

Barack Obama is the right person for the job. He's bringing people like me into the fold, independents and young folks that have been outside the system.

Let's abandon the cynicism of Hillary Clinton. Look at her past before wasting your vote on her. Remember - failed overhaul of healthcare, shredded docuements at her law firm, documents that "appeared" in her personal office about the "travelgate" matter, her betrayal of women when she attacked those that suffered uncomfortable encounters with her husband, lots of profits from futures (was that of an industry regulated by her husband), and nlots more.

Barack Obama!

Either a lot of you that are blogging are republicans, men, or under 30 and don't have a clue about the politics of the last 30 years. I have read a lot OF WHAT SEEM TO BE MALE ORIENTATED comments on this blog. The others obviously have not really gone to congress website and compared data. The others are just young and naive and if voting for Obama will be putting our country at greater risk than it is with the Bush Admin. Seeing we are hated all over the world all ready, he will just bolster this for he is just like the rest making empty promise awful lot of fluff. He is also cocky and brash and has Bushes go it alone attitude. He has no real talking points except change, but has no plan or action for change. And to attack Ms. Clinton on being angry(which she was not it was passionate). I like to see you all when you believe in something and want to fight for it. I think you all would act the same defense when being attacked and such scrutiny. You have Edwards who was kissing to Obama dreaming on being his VP for he knows he can't win it. Both are soft men who will crumble when it comes to it. Hillary has gusto to go up against those men. She is the only female in a field of men sitting in those debates and if that is not change then what is. Hillary was back in the 70's going up against Nixon and she has done a lot in her 30 years or so. More then Obama and Edwards. You voters need to wake up and take a good look at the world. It is not the same and she is a fighter not just a talker who is going to talk down to us but talk to us, she is the only one who is going to work for us. Obama and mark my words is a republican in democrates clothing. He will turn his back on us all, the middle class and america. It is not his time and by voting him in as canidate will bolster the republicans election strategy, and they will win in a national election. Remeber every canidate promises change-but America needs to change at a more moderate pace with the world being in such turmulant times. You all need to take a good look at history before you take America in a direction that we will not be able to turn back from. George Bush has already set our pace for a dim future, but don't turn out the lights entirely by voting for Obama. PEOPLE WAKE UP-DON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE YOU DID 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!

I completely agree with ard. For a very short while, my head was turned by Obama because he is clearly brilliant intellectually and has mostly good intentions. But then came the negative stuff out of him about the other candidates. Maybe that's politics, but I really did not like the way he did it and it made me not trust him. I do not think Hilary is perfect nor is anyone else. My main problem with her is that vote that seemed to allow us to go to Iraq. My second biggest problem is with any candidate who is not willing to fight hard enough to hold back the much too powerful and greedy insurance comapnies. That is why I actually love John Edwards the most even though I will probably vote for Hilary. I am not African American like ard but ard speaks for me. I am a single mother and a professional woman and I really worry when men, like you are saying you are, think that clip with Hilary expressing a bit of anger is over some imaginary line. I do not believe it is and I hope many more people will end up agreeing with me. Thank God she's human enough to get angry. What she said made sense to me. I was not intimidated by that bit of human emotion into being unable to hear what she said. Please listen again yourself...for content!

What is unfortunate about this blog run-off is that we are reduced to name calling the only female candidate because she showed fire. Obama can eye roll, do nothing and comes off as a hero. My family lives in Ill.(we are african american) and even they question his slick "look at me- the first african american man to... Is it that hard for all of us to actually see beyond skin color and gender and just pick a candidate based on the issues this country is facing? The world dislikes America, the economy tanking under the weight of war spending and national debt, men and women will come home from war and be tossed in a corner;gas prices and job loss will cripple the middle class... and we will have a President who has barely voted on a single issue or worse one how only cares about the right. These next 4 years will prove to be the most difficult time in our history- the world is just waiting to see if the "dumb americans" pick a jr. senator or a george bush redux.... Hillary, John (either one) is better than the two leading candidates.

I failed to see an instance when McCain or Obama seemed angry in this debate. Certainly neither of them screamed into the microphone. She seemed as though she was going to explode. She has greatly exaggerated her views of the "change" she has produced. These 35 years of experience hasn't produced very many results. I don't believe she could get anything done in 4 years by losing her temper. These aren't "double standards" these are just facts. She shouldn't be defended just because she is a woman.

Based on what I saw in the debate, anyone who is leaning toward Hilarity doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Why is it negative campaigning to state voting records that can be verified if bloggers weren't too busy thinking their opinion was more important than facts. Obama has used his first term as senator to run for president and let the people of Illinois down. He has voted less than any other candidate in the US Senate, let alone look at his "present" votes in the state legislature. If he has achieved so much why doesn't he list his accomplishments? His latest comment shortly before the Iowa caucus "This is the last time, now or never or something to that effect" kinda sour notes for someone who wants to serve the country. If he doesn't get his way first time around he quits, doesn't sound like someone who wants politics of hope, just his way or he won't play. And I don't work for anyone connected to politics, just a concerned citizen that believes I should know what I am voting for, not how good an actor they are. After all Opry has been coaching him. Haven't you noticed how much he has improved since she took over.

Do you realize how early it is? Let Obama take the lead and get exposed. Anyone who wants a Democrat to win better hope doesn't win.

The new Strategic Vision poll has Obama up by 9 points, 38% to Hillary's 29%, with John Edwards at 19%.

Obama is on a TEAR through NH.

Clinton is just reaffirming all the thing we know about women.

Women can't govern, as simple as that. Their emotional unstability makes them make wrong decisions and go hyreware.

Vote kunich

Heated ... even angry debate between Clinton, Obama, Edwards and Richardson. This is all today's Democrat Party has to offer after inheriting a mantle forged by the likes of Jefferson, Jackson, Wilson, FDR and Truman?

Well ... come to think of it ... maybe it is a bit much to have expected anything else.

With the party now claiming the green label can a recycled Al Gore be far off?

35 years of experience...at doing whatever it takes to keep a marriage to an unfaithful husband...
What I don't get is, what do denial and self-betrayal have to do with the presidency?

I'm certainly no Clinton fan, but I frankly didn't see that exchange as being "over the top" on Hillary's part.

Having said that, I do not want her to win.

I don't think there is a double standard going on here -- what I think is the Obama and Edwards camps (as well as the GOP) see blood in the water, and they are going for the knockout against her now that she lost in Iowa and will probably lose NH.

Interesting.

Remember her interview with Katie Couric, "I'm not going to lose", "I haven't even thought about it". I think it has just hit her that the young Junior Senator from Illinois is kicking her butt. And she is mad as hell. Look out Bill!!

I wonder how many of these posters work for Hillary? \Posted by: bryan | Jan 6, 2008 4:49:48 PM

WHO DO YOU WORK FOR BRYAN????????????????????

She is sooo nineties. She had an opportunity to rise above the petty bickering typical of the nineties, but fell back into it in her mini-rant. The old girl has an anger management problem alright.

It's in her eyes. She just doesn't "get" it that there might be somebody smarter or even, God forbid more qualified than she is. It's like, "This is MY time, MY presidency, and no young wannabe is going to to steal my time", kind of moment in her voice. I think its great. Did you notice Edwards' face? He was watching for her to "blow". She was pretty close.

Greg22: What "record of change"? It seems to come down to advising her husband to do something now and then in the Nineties, and then being one of dozens of US Senators to vote on something during her short tenure there. Hillary Clinton has therefore done no more to advance "change" than what she accuses Mr. Obama of doing: Merely talking about change. She's never had executive responsibility for anything, nor can any intelligent person claim she has really distinguished herself as a legislator. (As everyone knows, she only became a senator to order to become president!) And the one time she was given quasi-executive authority, on "health care reform," she created such a mess of it that it handed Congress to the GOP. Fortunately, it appears most Democrats are catching on to Hillary's delusions of being a significant "agent of change." She's not, and voters know it.

I don't understand why her opponents don't object to her method of making change.
She made a pretty good chunck of change on the cattle futures.

for all you people saying hillary stood her ground ... please tell me all the things she did to affect change in the last 35 years ..... she is a mediocre senator with no written legisltaion to her name, she jumps on as a co-sponser for positioning .....she was a presidents wife and a governors wife and she was a lawyer of sorts ..... where are the monumental changes ?

also: no one carries on about obamas and edwards accomplishments because they dont use every other sentence to tell everyone about how much change they have brought about

the truth is that obama actually is a thinker and has ideas about change which scares the hell out of hillary because she is just status quo

hillary would be happy to just say " LET THEM EAT CAKE"

I am no Hillary fan. I think she defended her husband Knowing he was certainly a serial sexual harasser and possibly worse. I find her calculating beyond redemption. Having said that, I think the clip of her defense of her record of change is outstanding and serves her very well. It is perhaps one of the few authentic views of her that we have seen. She was forceful, passionate, convincing and even sympathetic.

Something for the Democrats to consider. What "change" has Hillary wrought? Her signature issue--the attempt to socialize medicine in 1993-94--was the main reason the GOP took over the Congress. The result of her work was the destruction of a Democratic majority in Congress for a dozen years. Do you Democrats really want such a hamhanded, tone-deaf, and often arrogant person leading your party? The Democratic Party has been very good for the Clintons, but given the electoral defeats the party has suffered since 1994, it's very difficult to say the Clintons have been good for the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party is much better off closing the sorry Clinton chapter once and for all. And the country would be better off, too. (As a Republican, I also feel that way about closing out the Bush years.) Both parties need to clean house. The Clinton pathologies must be excised from the Democratic Party.

I hear Mrs. Clinton extoll her track record of bringing about change but I wonder why no one has challenged that statement using the fact that her highest profile role of leadership for change is when her husband gave her a leading role in health care reform and, because of her failure in that role, the opportunity for health care reform was buried for the duration of the Clinton administration.

Didn't see anything wrong with that - just making a point forcefully. I am on the fence between her and Obama. I thought it was a good point.

The Hillary plants are making comments, how nice.

She should have reminded everyone "it takes a village."

I wish the staffers would NOT post their 2000 word essays on these blogs.

Jake,
With all due respect, I think you are promoting an incredible double standard. She was passionate, she was heated, and she made her point very strongly. Had a male candidate done the same thing, I doubt you would be critiqueing his "tone" (you would be calling him "strong"). You said you didn't listen to what she had to say; maybe you should. Anyone who knows anything about her life is aware that she has spent her adult life trying to affect positive change, especially for children and women in Arkansas, this country, and around the world. Yet, Senator O'Bama seems to be the only dem candidate receiving credit for being an agent of change. When I heard that sequence I audibly cheered Hillary for her affective and able defense of her record.

Curt Heine

If you care to take the time to look at Hillary's past you will see that she is nothing but a highly corrupt, power hungry, spineless gold digger. She will break any law to get money whether doing land deals with the Rose Law Firm, taking illegal contributions from the Chinese or whatever. She proved what she really is made of when her husband cheated on her and lied to the world on television about it. She could get more of what she wants by sticking with Bill than having the backbone and strength of conviction to divorce him and try standing on her own strengths. She hasn't done anything for "35 years" that affects change. She had no power, she was nothing but Bill's wife.

Men will never let a woman be assertive without casting her as shrill or mean. This is typical female bashing at its worst. I listened to what she said, and I listened to its tone. She is making her case passionately and intellectually. She is backing up her claims with evidence. Neither of the other two men attacking her have as much substance in their suits as she does in her black pumps! Hillary, keep kicking butt and bring real change to the White House!

Jake your bias shines through.

What Hillary clearly pointed out was that in Edwards 6-years he accomplished nothing. His greatest accomplishment as self-described never became law. He pointed out that he accomplished nothing.

As for Obama with even less time in office in the Senate his self-described greatest achievement has also accomplished nothing. Rather than lavish sit down dinners lawmakers can be lavished with cocktail parties, standing only. Obama's time in the Illinois legislature accomplished even less wherein he voted present instead of taking a stand yes or no.

Why do you not point these things out?

When she is wearing her BROWN EYES

instead of her

FAKE BLUE ONES...

IT MAKES HER MAD.

She is fliied up with so much hate and controlled so much after all the slights that ole Bill has put her through... ANYTHING will set her off.

Beware.... "A B C " Anybody but Clinton.

Hillary was snarky and shrill. Yes she was 'mad' Good thing that there were not 'lamps' on the set... ALSO,
SHE NOW HAS BROWN EYES - NOT HER FAKE BLUE ONES...

CLULD BE WE ARE SEEING THE 'REAL HILLARY...
Poor Biill.

Love and kisses... ps/ that was NOT Presidential..

She was angry, but she responed dead-on in content. She stood-up for herself. In the beginning, she got close to her "right wing conspiracy" lecturing tone, but by the end, she had moderated her speech. What counted was the content -- she's a smart person, who can make a good quick argument. And I'm not fan of hers... but give her some credit.

Personally I do not think Bill really wants her to be President. He has no fire in the belly and does more to hurt her than help [her]. He is not stupid. He knows what he is doing.

From a german viewpoint (I live in Bremen/Germany) this is NOT a video with an angry woman. Have you ever seen an angry woman - meet my wife!

Every democrat at the tables this time, is BAD NEWS, people be-ware!
Sincerely
X - democrat

she did not seem angry to me either, maybe more frustrated, from her point of view she is probably thinking why dont people like me, i am clearly the best candidate.

i personally can't stand her, and we need new leadership, not old, tired of the clintons, tired of the bushes

This is angry? You have to be kidding.
Obama is "Presidential"? Obviously none of you are from Illinois. If you were, you would know that he is useless. He was useless when he was in the Illinois Legislature. Now he is bragging about how much health care he brought to Illinois citizens! When he was in the Illinois lLegislature heath coverage for Illinois citzens went DOWN. Not just a little, but a lot. Thanks to the "fine work" of Obama, my wife's pacemaker battery is almost dead and we can't get help having it replaced. When it dies so does she, unless I come up with $10-15,000 and since we are both disabled and she is not covered by Medicare and because of Obama she isn't qualified for Medicaid unless we live in a tent and eat out of garbage cans.
So you all go ahead and vote for Obama. You deserve another George Bush to replace the one that is leaving in 2009.
How many months will it take Obama to break George's record for the most vacation days taken by a President? After all, he has missed more Senate votes than ANY of the other 99 Senators except for Johnson. The only reason Johnson missed more was because he was in a COMA after having a stroke. What is Obama's excuse, spending too much time with Oprah?

Down with Hillary Up with McCain (or Huckabee) I like the no IRS ideal.
Am I alone on this?

I wonder how many of these posters work for Hillary? Her lack of experience is what offends me. As Obama said, I believe, she wasnt' Treasury Secretary!! Heck, she never even owned a house until they bought Bill's place up in Weschester County! I am a moderate Republican and can admit that Obama is a fascinating movement. I know enough about the Clinton machine not to want to see all that comes with it again.

I am no fan of Hillary. As a matter of fact, I am a huge Huckabee fan, but she did not seem angry to me.