Political Punch

Shame on the Clinton's and the democratic majority for supporting this Bush/Rove style of politics...
I'm dissapointed in Democrats nation wide for not being out-raged by these shenanigans... The same ones that lost us the control of the House, Senate and the White House in the 90's.

Come people, let's move forward not backwards!

Also I'd like to point out that Hillary has lost every national poll against McCain... If McCain wins the Rep. Nomination, she does not stand a chance at beating him in Nov. Polls have proven this time and time again!!!!!!

Let's not forget the vast amounts of people (Dem's inc.) that will never concider voting for her. Please dem's... Let's move forward and be united once more. Back the Candidate that can win the support of Ind. and Rep. aswell... Obama '08

Thanks for reminding me again why we loathe the Clintons. How anyone, regardless of policy beliefs can overlook all the Clinton smear rhetoric and lies and still vote for them in good conscience is beyond me!?! Folks, time to seriously consider if you really think ti's gonna be healthy for the country and the political process to sink back into their mire?! Please God, no! I need an antacid!

An increasing number of us aren't waiting until the end of the campaign. We are disgusted with Bill Clinton, proving our worst fears of what a Clinton 44 presidency might look like - a co-presidency.

Further, his willingness to play fast and loose with the truth against a fellow Democrat is despicable.

Take heed, seniors of the party: If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, many lifelong Democrats will NOT vote for her. Unlike the Clintons, we refuse to compromise our integrity simply to win the White House. Knowing politics can be dirty, we still want to win with honor. Otherwise, how can we say we're any different from what's gone before?

The Clintons don't care because the low information voter won't know about the truth because they don't read blogs.
As much as I salute your great work in calling out the Clintons on their continuing lies against Obama, you must be sure this gets on your airwaves. The morning show and the evening news so that the low info voter will know what the Clintons are doing and are lying.
In the meantime, please keep up your good work, Jake.
It is much appreciated what you have done.
I am a democrat and will either crossover and vote McCain or if Bloomberg gets in, for him rather than vote for the Clintons if they are the nominees. And there is no doubt that the Clintons are running for a 3rd term as copresidents and I wish this would be more of an issue.

Bill Clinton's legacy is forever tarnished: a stain all Democrats will have to wear along with him forever.

Ever heard the term "wounded in the house of a friend?"

Hold on a second here, Jake. The fact checks you linked to didn't refer to this ad, only to previous comments on this issue. Is there anything in the ad that's false? All they do is play Obama's quote, and ask whether he meant various bad ideas from the Republicans. There's certainly an implication, but there's nothing false. So four Pinocchios to you.

For whatever it's worth, I don't think what Bill or Hillary Clinton said was that far off the mark. Stretching it, yes. But lying, no. It's obvious that Obama was talking about Reagan and the GOP in an approving way. (Nobody seriously thinks being the "party of ideas" is a bad thing, right?) As far as campaign talk goes, this is pretty much par for the course--sort of like Obama claiming that no lobbyists work for him (and later saying he meant only federal lobbyists) or that his health plan is universal. Actually that last one is worse.

'Stooping to the same level'!?! My God, what a crew of crybabies. Obama said the Republicans were the party of ideas for the last 15 years. He can try to parse all he wants, but dammit, when normal people talk, if they say someone has ideas, the implication is that they have GOOD ideas. If Obama was wink wink nudge nudging, he needs to be a bit damn better at it.

Obama wasn't making a pitch to Republicans and independents. He was engaged in an intellectual discussion with an editorial board in Reno. He wasn't making a campaign speech, he was engaged in a thoughtful (and accurate) analysis that he had no idea would gain so much attention.

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" - John Maynard Keynes

I don't know if my faith in the Clintons was misplaced when Bill was President, but I know they don't deserve it now. Trying to mislead the public and subvert democracy is NOT 'the fun part', Bill and Hillary!

Bad ideas for the last 10-15 years, lets see we had the longest growth period in history under Pres. Bush, lowest unemployment!! really bad ideas!

I know Hillary wants everybody to be dependent on her!

Oh and do not forget the Clinton Recession that Bush inherited and turned around even with 9/11.

Both of them are socialists the question only is Who is Stalin on who is Karl Marx?

Wow, Jake...

After your earlier gratuitous pleasure in using "Hussein" at the beginning of this year, I have to admit I'm impressed...

Keep up the good work!

Jake-

Thanks for being one of the few in the MSM that is willing to call a lie a lie. It is incredible how many prominents journalists are unwilling to talk truth to power, and point out significant inaccuracies and false statements.

cg

OBAMA, A MAN AGAINST A CLAN...

Sen. Clinton and her Husband-Who-Will-Not-Shut-Up are simply taking a page from the recent successes of the current administration in power: repeat a lie often enough and people will believe that it is the truth. Need I remind anyone about "weapons of mass destruction," "the insurrection is in its final throes," or "Swift boats"?

Obama's remarks, while taken out of context, were certainly an appeal to the moderates and general Republicans. Should he win the nomination, he faces an uphill battle in getting the base of the right to his side, and significant hurdles to get the moderate vote.

What the Clintons are doing is playing politics in a country defined by the game. Obama's most admirable quality may be his undoing, and that's a denial of the realities on the ground. What his campaign is showing at the current time is that he's a left-version of the ideological driven policy we've been dealing with for 16 years (8 for Reagan, 8 for Bush.) I don't have to like the Clintons, but you have to give them props for playing the game and knowing how to get things done in our fractured system. 'Hope' is very different from 'rent' or 'work.'

Well, it's possible that the liars and cheaters are going to side with the Hill-Bill show ... they think it's funny and in fact, Bill recently told a reporter in SC that he was having "fun". But I have more faith in the American people - we've got to stop thinking that they run the show and that there's nothing we can do - because WE CAN CHANGE the direction of our FUTURE . I say the honest ones will stand up for OBAMA and I say, let's show the Hill-Bill's in record number turnouts that honesty will outnumber and outpower liars.

Sad thing is, as a female, I was initially excited to support a woman for president, but I, and so many others who've joined me, are have lost all respect for Hillary's inability to stand up to Bill. She lost my vote.

NO!!!...Obama should not accept that lying and cheating goes with the territory of American politics. If that's the case then what are we fighting for? If America can be diminished in the highest office to lying and cheating and that is seen in any way as acceptable behavior, then we may as well let go of this sinking ship and quit.

I will not accept that the American people are so immoral that they will let the Clinton's get away with this...stand up for the truth people...it's the only thing that will allow us to be free.

I disagree that the Clinton's usage of Obama's Reagan and Republican's ideas comments are a blatant misrepresentation. Obama was in Reno and making a strategic (and very clever) gambit to appeal to the republicans and independents to win these districts and rack up the higher proportion of delegates - which ultimately he did. There is no question of the tone and tenor of his comments. If as he claims in the SC debate that he thought the Republicans were the party of BAD ideas he would have said so - but that wasn't his objective. He was clearly praising Reagan and endearing himself to the region. He made a gaff - got his hand caught in the cookie jar - and is now backpeddling. To play the victim here is ludicrous.

I've read the transcript of what Obama said several times. He is making a pitch to reach out to Independents and Republicans. He credits Reagan for putting D.C. on a new "trajectory" and he credits the Republicans for being "the party of ideas". The implication is clearly that the Dems were not "a party of ideas" during that time period. I happen to think he's very wrong on that. The Dems always had ideas and good ones. Thankfully, the Dem ideas are finally starting to gain traction now that the GOP "ideas" have been exposed as dead ends.

At this point, most of literate America and the whole world know what the Clintons are up to...so..this is the beginning of a new era...thank God!

I'm really disappointed in the Clintons for their misstatements and exaggerations. This kind of politics paralyzes the political process and only makes the Clintons look bad. America is tired of this kind of politics and will be heard at the polls.

Why is the Wall Street Journal so interested in "swiftboating" the Clintons? Oh maybe it is becuase the Republican who they support want to face Obama the transparent phony instead of battle tested Hillary Clinton. After all, the Clintons are undefeated against the RNC. go ask Rudy Guiliani why he was scared to take on Hillary.

If there is one difference between the Clinton and Obama camps, this obvious lie campaign is illustrative. Dems were irate when Kerry lost because of the swiftboat ads. Now we have a leading Democratic candidate stooping to the same level.

What will the Clinton followers have gained if they have won the election and lost their integrity?

The media are playing dumb, really dumb. That are exactly Obama's words. Are the media also confused by his words? Why not ask Obama to clarify what he meant?

Obama should know that it goes with teh territory. The Obama campaign started the tricks and games by marketing Obama like the holier than thou person, the Saint that was above every politician and can't do wrong. They should know better than that, they know Obama is just another politician and if he wants to play in the big leagues he should be ready for that!
They have joined forces with the Republican machine to smear Edwards at first and Hillary, now they should be ready to get a dosis of the same medicine.