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January 12, 2008 7:58 PM

Two days after a key Nevada union of casino employees endorsed Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, allies of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, filed a lawsuit to block the special "at-large" casino precincts set up months ago for those very casino employees.

With the stated purpose of ensuring voting participation by casino employees in the Jan. 19 Nevada caucuses, the Nevada Democratic Party created nine at-large precincts designed for the "4,000 or more shift workers per site who could not otherwise take the time off to go to their home precincts."

The sites will be located at the Bellagio, Luxor, the Mirage, the Rio, Caesar's Palace, the Paris, the Flamingo, Wynn Las Vegas, and New York, New York casinos.

But the lawsuit, filed by six Nevada Democrats and the Nevada State Education Association teachers' union -- whose deputy executive director, Debbie Cahill, is a member of Clinton’s Nevada Women’s Leadership Council  -- seeks to prevent those At-Large Districts from meeting in next Saturday's caucuses.

"The Democratic Party of Nevada has violated the principle of 'one person, one vote' by creating at-large precincts for certain caucus participants, based solely on the employment of such participants," charges the lawsuit -- posted HERE by Vegas pundit and reporter Jon Ralston.

The lawsuit was filed by the firm Kummer, Kaempfer, Bonner, Renshaw, and Ferrario. Senior partners Michael Bonner and Christian Kaempfer have donated money to Clinton in the past, and Clinton ally and former Rep. James H. Bilbray, D-Nev., is an attorney at that firm.

The state party approved the at-large precincts at its Nevada State Democratic Party's State Central Committee meeting on March 31, 2007.

According to those minutes and attendance records of the obtained by ABC News (Click HERE), four plaintiffs now suing the state party to stop these "at-large" precincts from convening were in attendance: Clark Party Second Vice Chair Vicki Birkland and John Birkland, Party Third Vice Chair Dwayne Chesnut and Clark County Public Administrator John Cahill.

The "Delegation Selection Plan Review and Approval" including these "at-large" precincts was, according to minutes of the meeting reviewed by ABC News, "Passed unanimously." The plan was submitted to the Democratic National Committee for approval in August.

The lawsuit charges that changes were made to the agreement since then, however, and that the at-large precincts now unfairly give the casino precincts more weight -- "disingenuously" allocating delegates based on participation instead of based on registered voters, for example -- creating a "grossly amplified number of delegates" thus "treating each precinct as if it were a separate county." (Italics theirs.)

In a statement, Nevada Democratic Party deputy executive director Kirsten Searer says, "We have taken unprecedented steps to include as many Nevadans as possible in this historic caucus day. The 'at-large' precincts were included to increase participation in the highest concentration of shift workers — many of whom are minorities."

Culinary union secretary-treasurer D. Taylor told the Associated Press that the plaintiffs were using "Floridian Republican tactics to suppress cooks, housekeepers, people of color and women."

The move by the Nevada State Education Association -- NSEA president Lynn Warne is also a plaintiff in the lawsuit -- is widely seen within Nevada political circles as a hardball effort by Clinton allies to block votes from the 60,000-member Culinary Workers Union Local 226, which endorsed Obama on January 9, an hotly-contested endorsement.

The Obama campaign has publicly opposed the lawsuit. "We believe as a party, and a country, we should be looking for ways to include working men and women in the electoral process, not disenfranchise them," said David Cohen, the Obama campaign’s Nevada State Director.

For her part, Clinton's position on the lawsuit has been difficult to ascertain. After the Iowa caucuses, she expressed concerned that the drawn-out caucus process causes "disenfranchisement" of working men and women who don't have the time to participate.

"You have a limited period of time on one day to have your voices heard," Clinton said after her Iowa caucus loss, per ABC News' Eloise Harper. "That is troubling to me. You know in a situation of a caucus, people who work during that time -- they're disenfranchised. People who can't be in the state or who are in the military, like the son of the woman who was here who is serving in the Air Force, they cannot be present."

But her allies are responsible for the lawsuit and her response this evening was to say, “I know about the lawsuit that has been filed and I hope that it can be resolved by the courts and by the state party because obviously we want as many people as possible to be able to participate that is the whole idea.”

Clinton's state chairman is Rory Reid, a well-connected Clark County Commissioner whose father is Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev, the latter of whom somewhat unusually declined to comment on the lawsuit filed against the state party for the caucus he has worked so hard to bring to his state.

-- jpt

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I was in Iowa and I personally found the mass disenfranchisement of the caucus system disturbing. Aside from shift workers, many elderly people were unable to go out in IA's sub zero weather even if a door to door ride was offered. It also disenfranchised military personas serving overseas along with the handicaped and those who were unable to find childcare during that narrow sliver of Time.

I am a member of UNITE HERE and sit on Local 100 NY/NJ's exec board. I work in a restaurant and would be potentially disenfranchised by the caucus. However I support the lawsuit for several reasons. The at large caucus sites are only opne to casino workers not shift workers in hospitials, retail stores or stand alone restaurants not affiliated with casinos. Everyone else in NV has to caucus in the district where they live. Casino workers can choose to caucus where they live or in a special casino worker only "at large" location. Residential districts haver a set number of delegates set in advance based on participation in the 04 general election(like IA) that do not change regarless of whether district urnout is hight or low. However these casino worker only at large sites are the ONLY caucus sites that will get extra delegates if more people turn out.

The caucus system deperaterly needs to be reformed to allow more people to participate. However if we truly are committed to the mnost open and democraticly run races possible, the remedies needs to equally benefit all who are disenfranchised and not a narrow block of workers involved with a single union. If residential caucus sites get a fixed number of delegates based on the 04 general than you are giving these voters less weight behind their vote than cullinary workers who can get extra delegate by voting in casinos even if it's their day off). IMHO all of this nonsense is closer to what happened in Florida in 2000. Military absentee ballots mailed after the deadline were counted while other overseas absentees mailed after the deadline were not. Republican operatives were allowed to (illegally) correct disqualifying errors on Republican absentee ballots but Democrats were not. Re-enfranchinsing a selective slice of the electorate that is all behind a songle candidate or party is the antithisis of Democracy. We need to re-enfranchise but it has to be evenly and across the entire poltical landscape. In all fairness Obama never spoke about the crime of disenfranchising voters when older women who wanted to caucus could not leave their homes during the IA caucus's freezing weather.

I agree that the lawsuit should have been filed long before. I also think thatin a state with an economy largely based on shift workers who have difficulty caucusing, that the NV Demcoratic party wouldn't have proposed holding a stright primary election when lobbying to be added as an extra early state

Posted by: Jon | Jan 16, 2008 4:39:19 AM

Obama did not compare himself to either MLK or JFK, he merely cited them as examples. We've all done that; kids do that every day; rappers do it because one historical example is worth a thousand words. If Hillary reasons that to cite a historical figure is to compare yourself to him or her then she is too stupid to be a senator, much less president.

Posted by: John | Jan 14, 2008 10:17:26 PM

People stop your whining and complaining-It's early yet. If Obama and his cronies think it's hard now.

JUST WAIT!!! THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO CHEW HIM AND SPIT HIM OUT IF HE IS THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE.

The way his campaign whines and twist things that Hillary says or blames her for for having another union's support.

They have not seen anything yet-wait till he is the republican's get thier candidate and start thier attack.

Will he be able to handle it then. I think not by all this blaming everything on the Clinton campaign. When he opened the door for attacks.

And note that who ever posted that Jesse Jackson supported him, well the other day. Jesse Jackson said that he still does not know what Obama is all about.

So people need to look deeper into the message that he tries to drive in.

Posted by: Rich | Jan 14, 2008 7:44:05 PM

People wake up!!! Nevada is not going to decide who the next candidate is. There is more primaries to come. This is one nation. Not just Neveda, let us all have a say in it.

It's sounds like the whole Neveda Caucus is a big mess, the last mess we had 8 years ago in Florida did not play out in America's favor.

And yes I agree with the post from Lizzie.

Barack opened the race card himself by comparing himself to MLK.

It turned it all around on Clinton, who has a right to defend what her beliefs are, if anyone has reopened old wounds it was Obama, who doesn't answer to anyone and plays the good old Chicago Dirty politics game.

And it is sad that some black american's are just voting for him because he is black. Now who is racist. What has he done for black america. In his 1.6 million dolar house. When a majority of blacks supported the Clintons in the ninties and now are turning our backs on them, because they are not black.

All democrates are falling right into the republicans and media's hands. Trounce the once favorite candidate and cause a "civil war" amongst democrates.

I forecast that we will be seeing all states going red, if we keep this talk of racism going on.

Posted by: Shamed | Jan 14, 2008 7:29:37 PM

Barack Obama TOOK A STAND against the IRAQ INVASION when it MATTERED.

Hillary Clinton PLAYED politics when it MATTERED.

Everything else is just BUNK !

Posted by: PulSamsara | Jan 14, 2008 12:55:06 PM

The endorsement of the Culinary Union which has 60,000 members was won by Senator Obama. What a lot of the mainstream media is not reporting is the majority of this union is Hispanic -- with birthplaces from Mexico, Nicaragua and the Dominican Republic. That is good news because THEIR VOICES WILL GET TO BE HEARD, AND THEY BACKED THE CANADIATE THEY FELT BEST REPRESENTED THEM.
The BAD NEWS is that many of the hotels in order to respect this exciting democratic process are going to give these hardworking people the weekend off so they can have a chance to VOTE. LAS VEGAS HAS BEEN A POWERFUL ECONOMIC MACHINE BUT IT WOULD NOT BE A POWERFUL MACHINE WITHOUT THE PEOPLE THAT DO THE JOBS THAT SUPPORT THEM. The SUPPORTERS of THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN HAVE FILED A LAWSUIT TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING. It is a shame with ALL the power the Clintons have that they would try to silence the workers by doing something like filing suit. Those of you who honestly believe she knew NOTHING about this lawsuit, I guess still believe in Santa Claus.

Posted by: RealityCheck | Jan 14, 2008 4:51:37 AM

Who's running Hillary's campaign, Elmer Fudd? What happened to the vaulted, meticulous, robotically precise Clinton machine? Dirty tricks, smears, election fraud, injecting racism (even trying to stoke Latino racism), appealing to the baser instincts of the voter, etc. Every day is met with at least one Clinton abomination. Look at today, first she trots out her slimy BET billionaire henchman to knee-cap Obama, then we learn she’s attempting to move the goal post after losing the union endorsement. Has this woman no shame...or scruples?

Posted by: Brian Roderick | Jan 14, 2008 2:04:04 AM

The Clinton Swiftboat Tactics Escalate to Smear Obama

Clintons' campaign tactics, right out of Carl, Dick and George playbook, have been pretty shocking of late.

We're talking events of a week and Clintons have the audacity to feed recent, uh, days-old, hours-old events to the Revise-History, Scorch-Earth, Didn't-Inhale Machine? And who's coming to dinner? Bob who?

So, last week, during the NH primary campaign when they were feeling pretty desperate with the polls and everything (you with me so far -- this is true, right? Happened? We all on the same page so far?), Bill appears at a campaign event and says Obama's story is a fairy tale. He can't make his wife taller, make her male, make her, well, Obama, Bill whines bitterly. Bill's very angry about this -- can't you see? You're missing something here -- read my lips, he whispers, "she's Female, come on!"

Then, shortly after Bill's remarks, Hillary herself says:

"Dr. King had been on the front lines. He had been leading a movement. But Dr. King understood, which is why he made it very clear, that there has to be a coming to terms of our country politically in order to make the changes that would last for generations beyond the iconic, extraordinary speeches that he gave. That's why he campaigned for Lyndon Johnson in 1964. That's why he was there when those great pieces of legislation were passed. Does he deserve the lion's share of the credit for moving our country and moving our political process? Yes, he does."

After Hillary basically says, "Hey Obama, don't give too much credit to what Dr. Martin Luther King dreamt of -- all this hope stuff is false. Yeah, let's not have "false hopes." I mean, MLB had to get Lyndon B. Johnson to do the real work, remember? Unlike what you think, that white man was really the one who got all the work done for your civil rights movement stuff."

Senator Obama in the meanwhile, stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.

The news sort of talk about these remarks by the Clintons. Sort of. There are other headline news. Clinton comes first in NH, and some people think it's because she almost cried, and she makes a speech and says, "Okay, I'll try and cry more often folks, should've listened to you a bit more carefully -- huh. THAT's what you wanted?"

Senator Obama still stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.

Then, uh uh, problems for the Clintons. Clyburn, the top ranking black politician, gets angry at the Clintons' remarks (and maybe he also got peeved at other vicious Clinton lies, e.g., Bill claiming he was against the war from the beginning when there's undisputed evidence of speeches he gave supporting Bush on Iraq war?). "You guys being racist here?" Clyburn wonders incredulously.

Senator Obama still stays quiet. All in the meanwhile, with all these headlines going back and forth, regarding what I outlined above, Senator Obama says nada.

So, the Clintons, who desperately need the black vote, then go on radio to Al Sharpton saying, "Hey, Obama is a great guy, he can win, no, no, no, he's no fairy tale."

Obama, in the meanwhile, still keeps quiet.

Hillary now goes on Meet the Press and says, "It's Obama's fault. He's been twisting my words, and oh my god, people, HE IS MAKING RACE AN ISSUE! AND I'M CRYING, SEE MY TEARS???"

So, Obama finally responds, "Uhm. You know, this is kinda fascinating to me. I mean, I didn't say a word? Did anyone hear me say anything about this?"

Nope, Senator. It's just the crazy Clintons again, and some crazy Americans believing the crap, as they do sometimes.

Sigh.

Posted by: commonsensepolitics | Jan 14, 2008 1:29:07 AM

I'm going to guess the judge supports Hillary so the lawsuit will prevail. I'm not sure how this will be possible given that there is already a precedent for skewing the results. The super delegate!! Yes there is such a thing and its another mechanism by elite members of the Democratic Party establishment to keep control over the popular vote! The Democratic Party is not so democratic. Will the real question be what post will the judge get in the Clinton Administration? It makes me sad that our country's politics have sunk to this level. Hillary is really good at this, read up on her earmarks for another example of power before ethics. Is she really the leader we want for our children and our community?

Posted by: Greg Martin | Jan 14, 2008 1:19:54 AM

Kate, you wrote: "How can anyone know whom we're voting for??? When I enter a voting booth, there is no one in there with me and there is no one looking over my shoulder!"

What you describe takes place in a primary. But Nevada is holding caucuses. Traditionally, in a caucus the people break up into groups that support a particular candidate. IF there is an insufficient number of supporters for a candidate (the number of individuals for that candidate's group fails to meet the 15% threshold for that particular caucus) then these individuals either go home or choose to support another candidate. This is not a secret vote.

Posted by: James Danley | Jan 13, 2008 9:06:57 PM

That's bull, Mars. I am a (former) Hillary Clinton supporter, but her tactics have gotten utterly unconscionable. We know what this lawsuit is about, we know Hillary's campaign is clearly involved with it, and how convenient that it came right after the endorsement went to Obama.

This on top of the suppression of Edwards/Obama get out the vote efforts in New Hampshire, plus the lame attempt to suppress college students from voting in Iowa, and it adds up to a pattern of unacceptable behavior for a campaign that is supposed to be conducted with some level of decency.

I liked Hillary for a long time and I thought she was getting a raw deal with some of the attacks recently, but the voter suppression efforts are way beyond the Pale. I can no longer associate myself with the Hillary campaign, and I won't be voting for her in any election that comes later.

Posted by: Neera | Jan 13, 2008 7:41:53 PM

Repost

I note that the moderators on this thread have been going through and deleting the pro-hillary posts and leaving the off-topic off color anti-hillary rants (I've been following since last night and several explanatory poss as to what the suit is about are GONE)

For those who don't know this case is ACTUALLY about the fact that these at-large precincts get a rep for every 5 voters while regular precincts get one for every 50. Also only shift workers in the strip get to go to the caucus at the at-large caucus spots (conveniently only at cu controlled casinos). All 9 of at-large districts are in the same county and so are distributed to ignore all the casino workers elsewhere, like say Reno. It's obviously an attempt to rig the system.

The teachers are suing because they're working the caucus because the caucuses are held a schools and someone has to open them. They can vote during the caucus because since its a caucus you have to be physically present the entire time to vote.

To the person pretending to be a lawyer: you're obviously not because despite you claim that anyone can go...it flat out says that you have to present ID proving you're a shift worker

For anyone thinking that the campaigns just sat on this for months, if you look at the articles about the Nevada caucus, as of late November (the first article that appears on Google), nobody new where these at-large precincts were going to be and how they were going to be defined.

For those who want to say that for

ex: The Harry Reid Machine railroaded the idea of a Caucus through the NSDP State Central Committee

and read that as support for Hillary, think again, RORY Reid has come out supporting Hillary. Harry Reid hasn't gone either way. Still keep in mind that Hillary's major supporters have always been the working class (aka exactly who gets DISADVANTAGED by a caucus because you have to sit around for hours instead of voting and leaving).

Posted by: Mars | Jan 13, 2008 7:10:43 PM

BARACK OBAMA is a good man, a brilliant man and the great hope for the world.

Posted by: Joan | Jan 13, 2008 5:12:54 PM

That woman is poison. If she gets the nod Dems we will be calling another Republican president. I saw her on Meet the Press. She spent the whole hour not answering direct questions and knee-capping Obama. I cannot stand her. She comes off as a compete flake. I know I will not vote if she gets the nod.

Posted by: Sharon | Jan 13, 2008 3:40:09 PM

I see Hillary playing the race card here, and, increasingly over the past few weeks. Bill talked about the Obama campaign as a 'fairy tale'--in error, I might add. Then, having been called on the lie about Obama, he repeated it. He was called to task by black leaders. Hillary dissed Martin Luther King by saying his dream was worth near zero without the efforts of legendary crook Lyndon Johnson. She was called to task by black leaders. Now her team is orchestrating an effort to disenfranchise minority workers in Nevada--who may have been overly enfranchised by the original Harry Reid plan---but it was passed unanimously, when Hillary thought she would get the nod from the Culinary Workers Union. She seems to be appealing to whites...especially white women....who make up a majority of the U.S. voting population. She seems to be failing, except for older white women, and undereducated white voters of both sexes. It is a cold, calculating, condescending, devisive tactic....just like Hillary herself. I laughed when the media tried to show her 'softer side'. Hillary has no softer side. And now we see that she will use racist politics whenever she doesn't get her way. It would be depressing--but I truly think that more and more people every day are just getting tired of this has-been. Enough is enough, Hillary.

Posted by: SteveW | Jan 13, 2008 3:13:58 PM

The big turnoff is that the unions expect the American public to believe anyone has a choice in who they vote for in an open caucus at a union workplace. Be real. And Obama is against lobbying? They influence? This is going way back to the notorious Chicago politics. I believe in unions, but who I vote for is my business, not the business of union supervisors where I work. Who would be the precinct captains for Clinton and Edwards? They all work there, they all belong to the union.

Posted by: Lynn | Jan 13, 2008 2:19:35 PM

So much for "let every vote count" It seems that Libs only want people to have an easy time voting when they think the votes might go for them. It was the same with the 2004 election, every rule was to be bent to get out-of-state, unprepared or felony votes counted .. but military votes that were one hour late were being rejected by dems. Typical left wing hypocracy.

Posted by: Scott | Jan 13, 2008 1:49:51 PM

Clinton has alot of experience - of REWRITING HISTORY! No shame from the Clinton's! I do not want dishonest people in the White House, especially our President! All people are included in Obama's Hope and Vision message. Whereas the Clinton's are working the Rove/Washington D.C. PLAYBOOK TO A 'T'. VOTE FOR OBAMA! BY THE WAY, I AM WHITE MALE AM OFFENDED BY THE CLINTON'S TACTICS! LOW, VERY LOW OF THEM...I WILL NEVER VOTE FOR THEM IF THEY MAKE IT TO THE GENERAL ELECTIONS.

Posted by: Dave | Jan 13, 2008 1:46:23 PM

If I was a voter in Vegas right now, I'd be pretty angry that Hilliary is trying to deny me my vote. I thought that would be against the law.

I guess there are no levels low enough that she will go to!

Posted by: Kate | Jan 13, 2008 12:58:02 PM

This is quintessential Clinton: wait to see which side the union endorses, then sue to stop them from voting at work if they don't choose her. Typical slimy, lawyer politics as usual. How could we expect anything different? The Clintons learned from the GOP.

Posted by: EddyNewHope | Jan 13, 2008 12:55:25 PM

dawn, the answer to any unfairness is not disenfranchise even more people. This should not even be on the list of possible answers.

Posted by: rb6 | Jan 13, 2008 12:34:59 PM

I'm voting for ABH! Anyone But Hilary!!! I am a female and registered Independent. My Dem choice is Barack, if Hilary wins the nomination I will vote Republican no matter who the nominee is. Hilary is only personally and professionally motivated. She is motivated by power. She plays the gender card and is polarizing. She claims 35 years of experience but yet can't point to any particular thing that she has done to make a massive, lasting or critical "change". She will say or do anything. Her claims are empty. The most importnat quality our President can have is the ability to bring people together. They need to be able to form a great team and lead that team. Barack will be a great leader. Hilary is polarizing. ABH!!

Posted by: Miami Chick | Jan 13, 2008 12:34:09 PM

So much for everyone get's to vote platform. Everyone get's to vote if their vote is for hillieary. Support higher tax's social health care and less freedom. VOTE FOR HILLIEARY.

Posted by: William F. E. | Jan 13, 2008 12:33:50 PM

Dear twinmom48,

How can anyone know whom we're voting for??? When I enter a voting booth, there is no one in there with me and there is no one looking over my shoulder! Relax and calm down on that point.

Another thing, the heads of any organization can tell anyone else whom they support, that don't mean every voter is just gong to go along with what they say. Again, they are not in the voting booth with me, watching me make a mark on my ballot paper.

The BIG and IMPORTANT point is that Hillary and Co when they didn't get the support they lobbied for and wanted, they decided to be down-right UNDEMOCRATIC and go to a court house to try and say that the system wasn't fair!!!

1. It is fair. It allows each individual worker to vote.
2. It was her party that brought this system in!!!
3. She is trying to deny the ordinary working voters, their vote and subsequent "voice".

She ought to hang her head low and be ashamed of herself. No wonder she don't want to talk about it now. Its a pure disgrace ans shows EXACTLY just how much high regard she and her gang has for the public of America and their voting voices.

Its just disgraceful!

Posted by: Kate | Jan 13, 2008 12:32:15 PM

This does not sound like an attempt to wantonly disenfranchise anyone. It sounds like an attempt to keep some people from getting to vote at work while other people, who are also working that Saturday, will be prevented from voting. Lots of Sen. Clinton's supporters, disproportionately working class, will be working on 1/19, and no one is making special provisions to ensure that they vote. They simply do not have the time to get to their caucus site half-hour early, wait the hour or so the caucus will last, and then get back to their job sites. They also can't get to these casinos to caucus either. UNFAIR.

Posted by: dawn | Jan 13, 2008 12:20:29 PM

Wait a minute everybody! There are some important issues that need to be addressed here.

Perhaps the most important, do we really want our employers and coworkers knowing whom we support - maybe some or even many of us do; but what about those for whom the separation between politics and the workplace is inviolate. What about them? I don't live in a caucus state but my understanding is that by holding them in neighborhoods or in public buildings people from various walks of life come together to stand up for their candidates - I'm thinking that their bosses and nosy coworkers are not necessarily there taking down names. I'm surprised that Obama doesn't see the proposal for workplace caucusing as having a chilling effect on privacy and the workplace.

The other objectionable aspect of this article is how slanted it is. So what if local people who support Hilary Clinton are pursuing this lawsuit. The courts seem the obvious place for this important issue to receive the full airing that it deserves. It doesn't take someone as brilliant as Obama to understand why he and his campaign couldn't possibly object to this proposal and are afraid of the court's scrutiny because he's been endorsed by the casino employees but appears to be less concerned about possible retaliation toward and harassment against those who oppose him.

ABC show some balance in what you report. Like give us some details and analysis of the lawsuit. Find some experts who can examine this issue the way the court will.

Posted by: twinmom48 | Jan 13, 2008 12:17:32 PM

Pretty pathetic on the part of the Clinton camp -- politics as usual. They are afraid that the casino workers, who due to their work schedules, have difficulties in participating in the caucus, might overwhelmingly support Obama. This is why I will never vote for her, regardless of who the Republican nominee is. No more lesser of two evils for me, anymore. I want to vote for someone for whom I **want** to vote. Barack Obama is such a candidate.

Posted by: roos | Jan 13, 2008 11:54:51 AM

I cant believe that someone who claims to want to unite the country is allowing such a divisive tactic. Why isnt this being brought to the headlines. This is more important than watching perhaps the greatest performance to play on and woo the women voters emotions seen over and over again. Talking about a free ride from the media! These polling stations were approved last year, if there were any objections, then, not now would have been the time to express them. Would Clinton's folks be doing this had they received the endorsement? Or perhaps a better question is; Do you think that Obama would employ this divisive tactic had he not received the endorsement? I dont think he would. Shame on Clinton, I think this scratches her from my list of potential candidates I would vote for!!

Posted by: mtgdude | Jan 13, 2008 11:51:07 AM

this is funny. why didn't these guys move to block these votes immediately when the whole stuff was put in place? why is it that they are doing it now? because the culinary union didn't endorce hillary but endorced obama? the reason is simple and glaring... they waited for the powerful culinary union to endorce hillary and when it didn't happen, they are trying to brew trouble. it's a pity.

Posted by: vee | Jan 13, 2008 11:48:37 AM

If there was anything objectenable in by having casino voters vote in their own caucus- why was the suit brought by clinton associates only AFTER major endorsements were made favoring Obama, NOT BEFORE. Why does HRC decry that the caucus in Iowa do not allow people who work, the ability to participate. THIS is only about one thing- the Clinton campaign is sorely against the rights of people who may vote against her- ie- HRC IS AGAINST DEMOCRACY THAT WORKS. If she does win the nomination, this red blood american voter will vote against her.

Posted by: marny | Jan 13, 2008 11:47:52 AM

i just saw her on the Tim Russert interview and she claimed she knew nothing about the lawsuit and didn't want to discuss it. Typical politician!

Posted by: steve | Jan 13, 2008 11:42:33 AM

What can one say?

"It takes a village to suppress the vote."

HRC's people should stop this NOW. The answer to allegedly "unfair" access to some voters is not to bring an action a week before the vote to make it unfairly discriminatory from the opposite direction. These people are truly disgusting.

Posted by: rb6 | Jan 13, 2008 11:31:32 AM

I kind of understand what the brouhaha is about. But what occurs to me is that Nevada is taking a step toward open voting, which for me is allowing people to vote almost anywhere.

The teachers should be allowed to vote in the school they work in, should it be a polling place. Or they should be able to vote at a polling close to them, instead of trying to scramble to their designated polling place.

If the state feels they can do this for an area the size of Las Vegas and it's neighboring counties, why can't they do it for the rest of the state?

That's the Solomonic decision. Let the teachers have the same open polling places as the casino workers. The upside is a potential for higher turnout for all candidates, a big step toward election reform. Sure there will be problems, but given GOP voter suppression tactics, they'll be somewhat predictable and easily remedied.

Posted by: Sebastian | Jan 13, 2008 11:16:35 AM

Hillary Clinton is becoming the most devisive candidate in history -- women vs men; old vs young; blacks vs whites; hispanics vs blacks. Now she's sounding like a union buster. She and her husband are damaging the Democratic party. The Clintons need to bow out gracefully and let the nation move on to a better future.

Posted by: Bobareno | Jan 13, 2008 11:08:29 AM

It looks like another president is going to be elected because of a court case rather than the voices and votes of the working public!!!


...and thats a national disgrace. Well done Hillary, your keeping the record of corruption in the Whitehouse up and your not even there yet!

God help us all if she gets in.

Posted by: Kate | Jan 13, 2008 10:45:45 AM

I am a lawyer and I read the Complaint. Here is why the lawsuit is meritless. The fact is any Nevada resident who will be 18 by ELECTION DAY (not necessarly Caucus Day) can caucus in ANY CAUCUS LOCATION -- EVEN IF THEY GO TO THE WRONG ONE! So, the allegation in the lawsuit that even custodians at schools who set up caucus sites can't vote is wrong. The employees at the location can vote AT THAT LOCATION EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIVE IN THAT PRECINCT! SO there is nothing unfair about setting up extra "At Large" caucus sites that, theoretically, ANY Nevada resident can vote at! Personally, I think this lawsuit is disgusting and really turns me off to Hillary who seems to represent old style back-room politics at its worst. And then to have the Clinton Campaign disavow a connection to the lawsuit is laughable! The Republicans can't wait to run against her. I am supporting Barack Obama! He is the real deal America!

Posted by: DC | Jan 13, 2008 10:45:21 AM

Well....so much for her interest in allowing working people to have a voice. Incredible!

Posted by: Ellen | Jan 13, 2008 10:35:40 AM

If Clinton had gotten the support from the unions they would have been lauding the effort to make sure these workers could be heard. All this will do is force a sympathy for Obama, what happened to try to win on the issues?

Posted by: Louis | Jan 13, 2008 10:31:47 AM

Each vote she is is trying to block is a vote of an American human being!

How can she stand up and say she is for democracy when she has the chance off camera, to be trying to deny the voters THROUGH THE SYSTEM HER PARTY BOUGHT IN,
throw out their vote and thus their voices!

This one presidential candidate is a disgrace. A horrible, discreditable, disgrace. Why o' why does the sheep of this country want this person into the Whitehouse?

There's no end to her hypocrisies!

Posted by: A.J. | Jan 13, 2008 10:29:38 AM

What a surprise!There she is again, using her tricky law suits and corrupted connections to silence the voice of the voters.America wake up!

Posted by: carmen | Jan 13, 2008 10:19:32 AM

PEOPLE IN POWER WILL NOT GIVE UP THEIR POWER OVER THE PEOPLE WILLINGLY. DON'T
LET THE CLINTON'S DREAM OF MRS. CLINTON BEING OUR NEXT PRESIDENT BECOME ANOTHER CLINTON NATIONAL NIGHTMARE.

Posted by: Ruth | Jan 13, 2008 10:02:03 AM

Maybe she should just cry about it again and then she'll get her way.

Posted by: dajetigabe | Jan 13, 2008 10:01:07 AM

ok folks, this isnt about anything but the fact that if one truly believes in democracy, anything and everything should be done so that as many voices as possible can be heard. i am sad to hear the clinton camp would be against this. help the voters make their choice. should be nothing to fear- unless you are trying to manipulate the system. back off and let the votes be counted!!!!!!!!

Posted by: lori | Jan 13, 2008 9:59:22 AM

I'm not surprised at all that the Clinton supporters are rigging the election. Usually that accusation is hurled at republicans only, but Obama is ruining Clinton's coronation and as usual, Clintons and their minions are eager to disenfranchise anyone who won't succumb to the Clinton charm.

Posted by: TexBork | Jan 13, 2008 9:54:55 AM

All this dancing around by the Nev.Clinton people after they voted for it makes me wonder who those guys were in N.H. yelling at Hillary, "Iron my Shirt" I would bet my home it was Obama supporters. Had to be old Nixon dirty tricks guys from local nursing homes or could it have been Bill? The Clinton attack machine headed up by Mark Penn is a twin to the Republican attack machine.

Posted by: Ken Wooden | Jan 13, 2008 9:52:13 AM

All the Clintons care about is power. They have never cared for minorities-it was always a phony show. Now, all America sees them for the closet racists they are. Go Obama, go!

Posted by: rockychance | Jan 13, 2008 9:47:38 AM

There is nothing underhanded or for that matter unusual about this suit. However, some of these responses show how dangerously uninformed some of the electorate is. The casino set up would only be fair if non-casino workers had equal access to caucus sites since these caucuses are held on a work day. Casino workers should indeed be able to participate but no more so and to no greater degree than teachers or day laborers.

Posted by: Phil-O | Jan 13, 2008 9:43:07 AM

Its just one low down dirty gutter scam after another with this female. isn't it?

My god, has she and her friends no shame?

History will show the last twenty years of the Whitehouse just filled with corrupt and twisted politicians. Hillary is clearly extending that dark period in American history by adding her name to the roll of shame.

She and her campaign are a cross country disgrace.

Posted by: Disgusted Voter | Jan 13, 2008 9:41:30 AM

Hillary is trying hard what she can to make this lawsuit work out. WHAT A SHAME!!! Has she realized that tis will not be good for her campaign at this initial stage. People are becoming to hate her. She needs now to look clesely to this lawsuit, if not she will definitely lose tthe nomination. Before i used to admire her very much indeed, but no I have changed my position and i'm going to vote for OBAMA. VOTE FOR OBAMA ALL THE WAY TO WHITE HOUSE.

Posted by: I.A.T Smith | Jan 13, 2008 9:37:17 AM

From t- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
he couple that brought us this:

Did you really expect anything else?!

Posted by: roma | Jan 13, 2008 9:24:17 AM

The reason for the lawsuit is that those who vote in the ad hoc precincts will end up disproportionate representation when delegates are chosen. So whoever set up the system that the lawsuit is trying to fight may have indeed been pulling a fast one.

Posted by: bobbiewick | Jan 13, 2008 9:17:47 AM

I love how Harry Reid's plan backfired... Now Hillary REALLY has something to cry about! If I were a Nevada resident, I would demand a primary and scrap the whole caucus idea.

Posted by: Eve | Jan 13, 2008 9:15:05 AM

Is she can do this before she even gets into office, can you just imagine what she will do if she does get in! My God, she will make Bush will look like a beginner when it comes to using corruption in High office.

No wonder the rest of the world is disliking Americans if we allow this female to use her dirty tactics.

Posted by: D.B. Cooper | Jan 13, 2008 9:14:06 AM

This certainly doesn't look good for the Hillary folks. If one were to go to the state Democratic website and follow the link to the state caucus rules, the plan was overwhelmingly passed and submitted to not only each candidates campaign, but also to the state Attorney General, with plenty of time to raise any objections to the plan. Now all of a sudden several of those who previously approved the plan and happen to be supporters of Hillary's find objection to it as soon as those it most affects endorses Senator Obama. Folks, if you believe Hillary's national campaign doesn't have a hand in this maneuver, you're probably looking for ocean front property in Nevada.

Posted by: gc | Jan 13, 2008 9:04:17 AM

Its just one dirty trick after another with this lady and her representatives! Is there no end to what she and them will do !!!

There should be an national investigation into her and her disgusting tactics.

Posted by: James | Jan 13, 2008 9:03:09 AM

Prince Charming wants to divide the Nevada democratic party by these special voting concessions to his union voters, while the rest of the democratic voters follow the prescribed process. Obama is a Divider, not a Uniter.
I suggest his slogan from now on be:

"The Great Divider"

Posted by: benvictor | Jan 13, 2008 9:02:53 AM

Until Hillary stands up and decries this ill-conceived lawsuit, she will be associated with it. If she demands that it be dropped, then we might begin to see some resemblance of conscience within her. But that's not going to happen, because she has no conscience and she is all for this lawsuit. As so many more have said, it's one more item out of her bag of dirty tricks, and she needs to be put out to pasture for good.

Posted by: Jim | Jan 13, 2008 8:58:50 AM

I would like to take this opportunity to punish Mrs. Hillary Clinton for her besotted dirty tactics. To get immediately to the point, Hillary wonders why a lot hates her. Apparently, she never stopped to think that maybe it's because her staff and representatives are like an enormous Stalinism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must deal with Hillary appropriately because if Hillary doesn't like it here, then perhaps she should go elsewhere. Hillary's lousy, clumsy half-measures were forged in the crucible of frotteurism. But even if we disregard all that and examine only Hillary's presumptuous actions, this seems to me to be enough to show that whenever Hillary is blamed for conspiring to exhibit a deep disdain for all people who are not unsavory scoundrels, she blames her representatives. Doing so reinforces their passivity and obedience and increases their guilt, shame, terror, and conformity, thereby making them far more willing to help Hillary give me reason to lose my temper.

Posted by: NO MORE CORRUPTION PLEASE | Jan 13, 2008 8:48:05 AM

Campaign has changed! Its not Clinotn Vs Obama anymore. Its The Clintons Vs The Voters!

Posted by: EE | Jan 13, 2008 8:43:51 AM

This is so terrible. Is this how far the Clintons'll go to grap the nomination?

The Democratic party is doing everything to encourage voter turn out and participation and the Clintons are doing just the opposite simply bc such doesnt favor them.This is the apex of power hungry and political system assasination.

Obama has turned up voter participation in most of the states and thanks to that anxiety Hillary secured a win in NH.

Now she wants to cut off the bridge after crossing. I think americans should reject the Clinton campaign totally.This is un-American.

Posted by: EE | Jan 13, 2008 8:40:11 AM

Just like Bush, Hillary and co only use the law to suit them and when that don't work, you twist the law. This woman is a shame filled two sided shyster.

The public WILL NOT forget about the down right dirty tactics she is using.

...and people was this person as their leader. She should be locked up!

Posted by: Hillary is another Bush | Jan 13, 2008 8:31:15 AM

Typical of Hillary - say one thing and do another. She wants the public to have the vote but if it looks like they might vote in the opposite direction, take their vote away from them. She is a disgrace. A two faced disgrace.

Posted by: America - A Nation Of Sheep | Jan 13, 2008 8:17:12 AM

Regardless of the merits of the lawsuit, I think it's shameful that they would decide to sue only now, when the caucus precinct rules were openly established months ago. This is clearly a direct response to the fact that Obama got the union endorsement over Hillary, and they would not be filing this lawsuit otherwise. What a low-class move on their part. I don't blame Hillary for this personally, but I think it shows that her supporters are prone to playing the same type of dirty politics that she's making a habit of in this primary race.

Posted by: TaylorW | Jan 13, 2008 8:15:47 AM

first off, Obama is not a Muslim, he's a Christian. His dad was a Muslim from Kenya. You're just buying the radical right slur attacks wholesale. Do a little research on your own. As far as your "those people" comment, could that sound any more racist?

Posted by: Mike | Jan 13, 2008 7:55:10 AM

More dirty tricks by the Clintons against poor minorities. If any minority in America votes for Clinton, they are voting for the Devil!

Posted by: rockychance | Jan 13, 2008 7:34:32 AM

It appears that Obama does not care about the teachers' votes. Only the delegates that are assigned to every 5 people. What a big hit to our hard working teachers.

Posted by: suzelee | Jan 13, 2008 7:04:02 AM

Anyone scared yet?

Posted by: john | Jan 13, 2008 6:54:07 AM

I guess crying wasn't going to work so sueing was the next best option.

Posted by: Bob | Jan 13, 2008 6:38:48 AM

Obama followers: You are going to be sorry if he gets the nominations this
man is a con and charlatan, who has a
facility with words. I AM INDEPENDANT
but if you think we are in trouble now
this is nothing in comparison, if we elect a fool like obama, I tell you hell
will brake loose cause this man only wants to be the first black president this country interests is NOT HIS.

Posted by: ann | Jan 13, 2008 6:28:26 AM

Just because Obama himself doesn't cry "race", doesn't mean it isn't coming from him. Who runs his campaign? Doesn't he have the final say? The "race card" was pla