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Was Hillary Dismissing MLK?

January 07, 2008 9:11 PM

On Fox News Channel this evening, our friend Major Garrett snagged an interview with Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., which prompted a curious response.

"I want to read to you something Senator Obama said today about your contention that he offers false hopes," Garrett said.

Garrett then read from Obama's remarks earlier today, which were, per ABC News' Sunlen Miller, "How have we made progress in this country? Look, did John F. Kennedy look at the moon and say ‘Ahhhh, it’s too far. We can’t do that. We need a reality check.' Dr. King standing on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. ‘You know, this Dream thing,it’s a false hope. We can’t expect equality. False hopes.'

"Let me tell you something about hope," Obama continued. "I do talk about hope quite a bit. Out of necessity. There is no odds maker who would have said that I would be standing here when I was born in 1961. My parents come from different corners of the planet. They separated when I was two, My father left my mother. Single mom raised me with my grandparents. Could only offer me love and education and hope."

After reading to her the part of that quote that dealt with MLK, Garrett asked Clinton, "Do you have a reaction to that?"

Said Clinton, "Dr King’s dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, when he was able to get through Congress something that President Kennedy was hopeful to do, the president before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done."

She continued; "That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became real in people’s lives, because we had a president who said ‘we’re going to do it,’ and actually got it done."

So...Obama is MLK, a good talker who never accomplished anything, and thank heaven for Clinton-slash-LBJ?

Am I reading that right?

And is this really a smart message to make just a few days before the South Carolina primary?

- jpt

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Why is it that if a person is for Sen. Obama to be president, its because he is great, but if a person is for Sen. Clinton, they are a racist?

Posted by: Gsalem3633 | Feb 18, 2008 10:30:36 AM

Hillary was not dismissing Dr King, She was simply saying that he worked with the cooperative president as a team. Maybe she could have emphasized this unity more, but objectively, what she said was accurate and respectful.

Posted by: Andy St. Clair | Jan 16, 2008 1:51:00 PM

I don't trust hillery as many opther have proven tell will say anything to get in office but once they are there broken promises.is all we get .myself i am tired of putting people in office who are in the political bed already and do nothing for us for the next 4 to 8 years .But for their bed partners everything is money making and gettin fatter pockets.meanwhile the underclassman and woman continue to struggle..We need fresh untarnished blood repn us in the white house it's time for a change..

Posted by: KEV | Jan 15, 2008 1:51:47 PM

Just read AJ's comment. I am an African-American and I WAS offended because Clinton implied that without MLK's dreams actualized by the president America wouldn't be what it is today. The truth is that MLK actualized his dreams in millions of people when he gave his "I Have a Dream " speech. He planted seeds of hope and that is exactly what Obama is trying to do. I don't think he should be stopped.

Posted by: fairness4all | Jan 13, 2008 11:03:15 AM

I could not believe that Hillary Clinton said the following: "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act. It took a president to get it done."
This is totally unacceptable for Hillary Clinton to say. Black people across the nation should demands an official apology from her. She covers herself under the Democratic Party to gain African American support, and votes. However she does not represent the party ideology. I am afraid that she is just a hypocrite and an opportunist who fooled the black community in the past. She was right when she said that she found her voice in New Hampshire thereafter. She does even have a modicum of restraint for our most respectable hero - A man who gave his life for the liberty of back people. I could not believe that she said the following: "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act. It took a president to get it done."
Not only she is going to loose the votes of the black people in South Carolina, but also she is going to loose the black votes across the nation. The last time I remember checking the official US census, Black people accounts for about 12.8% of the population

Posted by: Nixon Benoit | Jan 13, 2008 2:28:04 AM

I am so surprised at some of these comments by those who are supposedly well informed.

Hilary Clinton did dismiss the work of Martin Luther King, who put his life on the line every day, ultimately losing it to help others. She implied that LBJ's actions were more important. The truth is, if it had not been for MLK and others, who inspired THE WORLD TO TAKE NOTICE, it would have been business as usual in the White House.

Someone says that Senator Clinton was very influenced by seeing Dr. King speak in her youth and has had a life-long dedication to civil rights. What has she done to further civil rights? She and her husband's goal has been and is to chase the money (Hello Whitewater??) She speaks about who she knows personally, but because she's finally realizing that we are tire of the same old mess, now speaks of "change." She wants it both ways.

Obama has been working to better the lives of people before he became well known. He has integrity, good character, a real marriage and family life, not just for show or photo ops. Personally, I think a person who has demonstrated he has the best interest of all people at heart, especially those less fortunate than himself is more fit to run this country that one who brags about who they know. Obama could have chosen the money, he attended an ivy league school, is also married to an attorney. His home and fellow citizens were and are more important. I'm sure he never lacked for opportunities.

Bill Clinton signed the bill that made it law to allow people with small amounts of crack to get sentenced a lot more time that those with larger amounts of powder cocaine. Neither is a good thing, but it was then, and is now, a well-known fact that crack is cheaper and thus tends to affect inner city neighborhoods which have a higher population of minorities. This is a little known fact because many of us don't seek the facts, but were influenced by the good-guy personality. And he was the only we saw on the Arsenio Hall show, and played the sax.

This woman has not earned the respect from the black community, nor does she deserve it. If her feelings were so heartfelt she would be the one making the rounds of black radio, rather than her husband. She doesn't even appear to be comfortable around blacks, which is pretty evident not only from her recent remarks, but those she's made in the past, too.

Last, but not least the lady who asked her the question just before her "tearful response," saw it for what it was, insincere. She voted for Obama. She felt the phoniness.

Posted by: Nana1007 | Jan 12, 2008 11:00:59 PM

Hillary totally discounted the passion and legacy of MLK and how his voice set the motion of change into action. If this man had not sacrificed his life by using his voice and ACTIONS to invoke change LBJ nor any other President would have felt the urgency of racial injustice in our nation. Barack was simply stating that if not JFK & MLK dared to dream and hoped of change our nation would have a very different history. I think a President can have the mentality of hope and change and be a strong leader of our country.
I would also like to know the breakdown of Sen. Clinton's 35 years of change. How does being a former first lady make a canidate more qualified to be President?

Posted by: Iris | Jan 12, 2008 10:01:20 AM

I am sick and tired of Bill and Hillary Clinton and I am offended by both their condesending comments about Obama ("fairy tale") and MLK (LBJ was responsible for the civil rights bill, not MLK). Had it not been for MLK's dream and putting his life on the line, African-Americans might still be sitting at the back of the bus. Be careful Black America. These comments may clearly indicate their TRUELY dismissive attitudes toward African-Americans. African-Americans supported Bill Clinton after the Monica affair and enabled him to serve a second term. The Clinton should be supporting Obama--its his time. VOTE OBAMA!!!

Posted by: AJ | Jan 11, 2008 9:16:13 PM

I agree with many of you, Hilary was not "dissing" MLK. And being an african-american, i was not offended by this at all. she knows that MLK could not possibly make those dreams a reality alone. he needed the help of the president, congress, and the house in order to dream no more.
The reality was, MLK didnt get the chance to act. so therefore, he was only a dreamer. He was a talker. But those dreams and those words sparked a change. and for that this nation is grateful.

Posted by: justreading | Jan 11, 2008 6:14:36 PM

I agree w/scotty. Just because Obama had money when he was growing up, he still had to work for scholastic achievements, respect, and his dreams/goals. Where is the harm in one who dreams of unity and CHANGE?! He might still have a master plan.... Go MLK and Obama!

Posted by: fairness4all | Jan 11, 2008 4:25:57 PM

Ok first off, Hilary wasn't discrediting MLK's work. All she was saying was that MLK's goals/dreams for African Americans...would have been just that...goals/dreams...until a man in a position of power (LBJ) set these goals/dreams in stone (the law). People will make up any kind of outrageous claims just to discredit Hilary. This woman can't do/say anything without some type negative backlash.

Posted by: TJ | Jan 11, 2008 3:44:59 PM

Obama was making a comparison with MLK as a person hoping for better for its citizens. Of course he has not been through all of the fight of MLK and neither has many others who came on the scene after MLK.

What you SHOULD be outraged about is the fact that Hilliary Clinton DISMISSED the works of MLK!!! Without his dream.....and actions, the president would not have taken up the mantle to make part of it come true.

Please open your eyes!!! Let us not get it twisted. Black, brown or white to disregard the impact of the MLK movement should be of importance to you.

How close are we from the plantation mentality?

Posted by: Liz | Jan 11, 2008 11:11:27 AM

Yea Hillary was right , it took a president to help out the civil right, but without the hope for a better life by the dreamer who awoken the nation we wouldn't have had the president do what he did.

So now imagine having a president who himself is an hopeful dreamer not a nay sayer.

Why aren't we talking about the fact that there are group of families now that think they have a special right to our presidency?.

Posted by: Mark Twain | Jan 10, 2008 12:44:21 PM

Although I did not interpret Obama's comment as comparing himself to MLK, I thought he described MLK's contribution to our society. Is Hillary claiming to be LBJ? Is that an earned comparison? Again, what is the outcome in policies and programs created from her 35 years of social change? We know the impact of both LBJ and MLK. Can someone explain her 35 year legacy on our society? Also, is she bribing African American clergy and politicians to persuade African American voters in SC?


Posted by: Paulette | Jan 10, 2008 9:08:50 AM

Hillary is saying what my family and friends are saying. How dare Obama compare himself to a great leader like Doc King. Obama can not compare himself to a man who went thru the horrible things Doc King went through. He truly lead a struggle for rights. Doc King was beaten in the streets and jailed. He was a great man. Obama has lead a charmed life. He lives in a fancy house, worth millions and the media loves him.
My family, friends and I are highly offended. When Obama speaks his voice changes. From himself to Doc King. He goes up and down pretending to be something he is not. My black friends in Ga. think it is a low blow to the King memory. Obama is not from the south. He does not talk southern. Who does he think he is?

Talking about Doc Kings struggles is great but trying to sound like him and compare yourself to him, has not been earned. A man or woman should stand on their own accomplishments when running for President.


Posted by: C DEPP | Jan 10, 2008 4:43:13 AM

This comment is telling of Hillary's understanding of social change as well as belittling the contributions of MLK. I want someone to explain to me her 35 years of social change. How has our country benefited from this change? What are the policies, laws, and programs created that advance the quality of life for all Americans? If you look at her voting record and her contributions while in Ark, can anyone answer these questions? Check her record yourself. I plan to juxtapose Hilary’s record with verifiably policies and programs she created as an exercise in my undergraduate course that I teach which covers social change!!!

Posted by: Paulette | Jan 9, 2008 11:17:09 PM

I am really offended regarding Hilliary Clinton's remarks about Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. I am appalled by her remarks. She totally dismiss Dr. King. I am a democrat and have been one all of my life, but if she is the democratic nonmonee for president my family and I will vote for the first time for a republican. I don't know anything that Hilliary has accomplished. As a matter of fact she was a republican. She worked in the Goldwater campaign. I hope all the African American that are supporting her will wake up and smell the coffee.

Posted by: Mary C Woolridge | Jan 9, 2008 2:30:52 PM

As a Black person, I was really offended when I heard Hillary say this. She more or less said MLK's contributions were null and void, which I believe speaks to the essence of who she and her (cheating) husband really are, Neo-conservatives "pretend Democrats"

Posted by: Ms. Emerson | Jan 9, 2008 11:56:57 AM

Huh? Hillary says it took a president to be able to implement MLK's dream of a better America for minorities, and somehow this reporter interprets that as Hillary saying MLK was "a good talker who never accomplished anything"? Talk about putting words into someone's mouth!

I had never heard of this Jake Trapper guy before I ran across this column today, but I'm frankly surprised that this level of journalism is coming from someone identified as an ABC News Senior Correspondent.

Posted by: kt | Jan 8, 2008 8:55:40 PM

Hillary Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!
The best woman for the job. What has Obama done for the country lately?
Anne

Posted by: Anne | Jan 8, 2008 7:09:53 PM

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