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Bill Clinton: "If You Elect Me" (I'm Speaking as Her)
February 25, 2008 3:37 PM
For a natural-born politician such as former President Bill Clinton, it may be tough to spend so much time talking about someone else.
For that reason, he has assumed an interesting way of speaking from the stump whilst campaigning for his wife.
He precedes a pitch by saying something along the lines of "This is what my wife says" and then he launches full-throttle into the pitch.
It can get confusing if you tune out for a second.
Today in Portsmouth, Ohio, he said, "So Hillary says, in 2005, the United States Congress adopted the Bush-Cheney energy bill, which gave $27 billion in subsidies to nuclear, oil, and gas and coal. The only thing that was justified was clean coal, because countries are going to be using that. We have to figure out how to take the carbon dioxide out of it. The rest of it is waste. If you elect me, I'll repeal those subsidies. And put them into a strategic energy fund that will create American jobs for America's future with clean energy."
Watch the VIDEO HERE.
If you coughed and missed the "Hillary says" in that sentence you might be surprised when he reaches the "if you elect me" part of the pitch more than 60 words later.
Because after all he's not running for anything.
Right?
- jpt
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The Executive Branch.
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possible control for independent regulatory commissions such as the F.C.C., and the F.T.C., the S.E.C., and the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (thanks for the F.R.S. of Chicago/Detroit Branch under construction). No presidential control for goverment coorperations such as the US Postal System.
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Murphy's Law: " If anything can go wrong, it will."
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Parkinson's First law; " Work expands to fill the time available for its competition."
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The peter principle: " In every hierachy, each employee tends to rise to his level of competence; thus every post tend to be filled by an incompetent employee.
Posted by: Richardo Brown | Feb 28, 2008 8:47:57 AM
I think the media is actually afraid that the Clintons will make America prosperous again that they are going out of their way to try and bury Hillary before she gets any traction. It's sad because once again, the American people will be shafted just like they did us with George Bush.
The reality is that, 4 - 6 years from now, more people will lose their jobs and healthcare because we have chosen to go with hope rather than proven actions and results of the Clintons. I [predict the Democratic party will fail miserably in delivering that they will be voted out of office if Obama is the nominee and president.
Becareful what you wish for folks. If we think we can turn things around by feeling good, think again. In my personal experience, I try to think positive and feel good all the time, but my problems remain. I have not been able to wish or hope them away.
Posted by: SO1 | Feb 27, 2008 1:31:10 PM
I could really care less who says they have slept with former President Clinton, Jennifer Flowers included. What I don't want to see is pictures of him in a turban.
Posted by: Ken | Feb 26, 2008 2:46:38 PM
Gennifer Flowers back with new book these tapes of her and bill clinton here we go again she s got proof.
Posted by: Caroline | Feb 26, 2008 2:33:53 PM
Bill Clinton will influent Hillary Clinton in favort of the corporates / foreign countries that he received $$ for his speeches / works (foundation). America will be easier for wealthy foreign investors (Saudi Arab, China, India, etc) to buy. American will become "slave" workers to their corporates / households. Any American who want two presidents (in the same bed) and live backward in the past, then put the Clintons back to WH. They are hungry for power (again), you will be regret and guilty with your children & grandchildren for helping taking away their food & shelters because there will be less and less jobs. Is it time for American to wake up?
Posted by: Katy | Feb 26, 2008 2:27:55 PM
I think the real issue here is experience. The Obamas have none. The Clintons have a lot. The Obamas would be making mistakes and wondering what is going on. The Clintons have learned from their mistakes and know what is going on.
Posted by: Midwest | Feb 26, 2008 2:23:55 PM
For those of you that have refused to see through Bill & Hillary, all I can say is "back to life, back to reality". Wake up people.
Posted by: Chan | Feb 26, 2008 2:22:18 PM
Spock, all I can say to you is "back to life, back to reality". Where do you get your facts from? New York Times.
Posted by: Chan | Feb 26, 2008 2:05:04 PM
EX-CON FOR CO-PRESIDENT - BILL CLINTON: Where to start? This ex-con, convicted of lying to a federal grand jury, obstruction of justice, stripped of his right to practice law is the only president impeached in modern times. There was also his use of the Arkansas State Troopers to chauffeur him to visit his many mistresses. But at least he visited Jennifer Flowers and a few others on his own dime. And don’t forget Monica “I did not have sex with that woman - Lewinsky.“ This felon who wants to be your CO-PRESIDENT recently made himself 31 MILLION DOLLARS by facilitating a deal with the government of Kazakhstan, a country that has one of the worst records on human rights in history. Clinton has been reduced to a pathetic figure unable to complete a sentence without a reference to himself. DON’T LET BILL STINK UP THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN!
Posted by: rhbate | Feb 26, 2008 1:31:57 PM
Jacksmith:
If you think Bill Clinton was one of the greatest presidents, you might be an idiot.
If you think and somehow deduce another Clinton administration is a good idea, you might be an idiot.
If you think peace is simply an absence of war, as the Clinton's did and do, you might be an idiot.
If you think the Clinton administration was ethical, you might be an idiot.
If you think the Bush firings of less than 10 US attorneys was more politically motivated than the wholesale and total firings of the US attorneys and the travel staff by the Clinton administration, you might be an idiot.
If you think Clinton's bombings in Afganistan was not set up to be a diversion for the Lewinsky scandle, you might be an idiot.
If you think that Ms. Clinton sat in the NBC studio and claimed right-wing conspiracy without knowing that the Lewinsky deal was a real thing, you might be an idiot.
If you think you can talk out of both sides of your mouth (NAFTA, support for Iraq War, special interest, tax/spend-spend/tax and care about "WORKING FAMILIES", criticize hedgefund groups while family members draw a check from them, and somehow think that 1992-2000 was the greatest of times--then think the rest of the country doesn't see the hypocrocy, you might be an idiot.
Posted by: seth | Feb 26, 2008 12:52:35 PM
The curtan has come down on the Clinton vaudeville act. Off they go into the sunset.
Posted by: Nick | Feb 26, 2008 12:43:05 PM
Tapper, once, just ONCE couldn't you discuss a real issue in one of your blogs.. pretty pretty please? This is not entertainment tonight.
Posted by: An Opinion | Feb 26, 2008 12:31:32 PM
EX-CON FOR CO-PRESIDENT - BILL CLINTON: Where to start? This ex-con, convicted of lying to a federal grand jury, obstruction of justice, stripped of his right to practice law is the only president impeached in modern times. There was also his use of the Arkansas State Troopers to chauffeur him to visit his many mistresses. But at least he visited Jennifer Flowers and a few others on his own dime. And don’t forget Monica “I did not have sex with that woman - Lewinsky.“ This felon who wants to be your CO-PRESIDENT recently made himself 31 MILLION DOLLARS by facilitating a deal with the government of Kazakhstan, a country that has one of the worst records on human rights in history. Clinton has been reduced to a pathetic figure unable to complete a sentence without a reference to himself. DON’T LET BILL STINK UP THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN!
Posted by: rhbate | Feb 26, 2008 12:26:20 PM
Would it be better if he said, "Hillary says, 'If you elect Hillary, she will.....'"
I bet that would turn into a story too.
Posted by: Jeff | Feb 26, 2008 12:16:16 PM
Bill Clinton's "economy" was based upon the dot com bubble and a lack of military spending.
Posted by: Poobah | Feb 26, 2008 12:00:07 PM
Clinton released the photo of Obama hoping to convince ignorant voters that he's a muslim, thus making him a terrorist. What she doesn't seem to realize is that all of the ignorant voters already support her.
She's toast.
Posted by: Poobah | Feb 26, 2008 11:58:17 AM
Bill Clinton had the means and the opportunity to kill Bin Laden but he chose to let him plan 911.
Bill Clinton is an idiot.
Posted by: Poobah | Feb 26, 2008 11:52:54 AM
I see that Bill Knows his third Term is Going down the tubes fast, So he will basically tell Hillary to shut up and sit down while he rallys whats left of the CLINTON MACHINE!!!
Posted by: Nando, Florida | Feb 26, 2008 11:52:02 AM
Jack Smith,
Is your whole line of Hillary Clinton being best qualified to be President because her husband was President??
Posted by: Roy Cherian | Feb 26, 2008 11:50:19 AM
I don't want Bill Clinton ANYWHERE near the White House. I want them out of Washington.
Posted by: Marahishi | Feb 26, 2008 11:49:12 AM
Hillary has no more experience than Obama. She's finished.
Posted by: Swami | Feb 26, 2008 11:46:41 AM
Hillary and Bill are both power hungry. She's toast.
Posted by: Poobah | Feb 26, 2008 11:45:21 AM
Jacksmith,
If you think that the most divisive politician in America can beat John McCain, you must be an idiot.
If you think that a movement that has garnered an unprecedented ONE MILLION SMALL DONORS is not real, you must be an idiot.
If you think that Obama's judgment and temperament don't make him far more suitable to occupy the White House than Hillary or McCain, you must be an idiot.
If you think the "master politicians" Bill and Hillary are better able to bring about change when they cannot run a competent primary campaign, you must be an idiot.
If you think Hillary Clinton's vote to send us to a totally unnecessary war of choice qualifies her to be the best person to end that war, you must be an idiot.
If you think a WIFE absorbs all the qualities and experiences of a husband, you must be an idiot.
Posted by: Leo | Feb 26, 2008 11:36:55 AM
Jake another post if you saw MSNBC, ( I was clicking through channels) Overbite had a woman on that works for Obama, saying that any political attack on Obama could be used as a Racist attack. So Obama is going to play the Race card, every time his stances come under attack he will claim racism, We saw it already when bill made an innocent comment about his views on the world being a Fairytale.
Come on Obama is a Racist and that is all there is to it!
Posted by: spock | Feb 26, 2008 10:53:34 AM
Bill is running scared. His Foundation has accepted so much Arab money on the premise that his wife would be in the Whitehouse that he cannot see a way out.
That couple is already bought by foreign concerns.
At least our tax dollars won't go for the constant cleaning of the Lincoln bedroom.
Posted by: JB | Feb 26, 2008 10:47:30 AM
jacksmith - Well your right about Obama I will give you that, but 100% wrong about Hilary too.
Universal Health care is a socialistic tool for control, it will not work, it will destroy our health system
Our Economy is on the verge of collapse, well then it must of been destroyed during the Clinton years. Since unemployment is lower then it was under Clinton and that is with more illegals here now. Stock market is higher then during the Clinton's. and by the way Clinton was riding the wave from Reagan Economic plans, not his own.
Wrong again on enviroment, lets see Pres. Bush has done more, Nixon did the most. Oh and by the way If you believe in man-made Global warming, you must be an idiot!
If you believe Bill did anything for education you must be an idiot.
If you think Bill who brought disgrace to this country and the Presidency and ran us into a recession and stood idly by when millions were being killed is on record for being one of the Greatest Presidents you REALLY are an IDIOT who does not see pass idealogical blinders.
Now if you think Hilary or Obama would even make a good President You must be an Idiot!!
Posted by: spock | Feb 26, 2008 10:47:13 AM
He was a Senator a whole 2 YEARS before launching his presidential bid so one may conclude that his votes in the Senate were with a White House run in mind- even so he ranked 16th and 10th most liberal the first two years (according to National Journal' 27th Annual ratings- NOT Wikipedia). BUT WAIT, in anticipating becoming the "uniting change agent", last year his votes earned him the #1 spot as the most liberal Senator...who exactly, other than Edward Kennedy, is going to "unite" with him now?
Posted by: JtheJedi | Feb 26, 2008 10:39:24 AM
Ok we can blamed Hillary for supporting Bill Clinton in his many trade agreements etc...But if you were in the shoes of Hillary when Bill is the president what will you do? Openly criticized his action or stand together and support his decision - this is what a first lady should do. Now we should judge her based on what she can deliver, at least she had some clear opinions when it comes to passing bills etc unlike Obama. Being a highly educated individual and working for a fortune 20 company we are always press for resolute ans and solutions for the betterment of the organisation growth. People who blame trade agreement as a cause of their job lost "SHAME ON YOU" ask yourself have you done anything to upgrade your skill sets for the betterment of your own future. Relying on Govt action itself can't help much -it take both way to work, simply having a recipient does not aid a society, this is what happen when a country deeply rely on welfare to tide them through difficult times. Citizens are complaining abt "high tution fees" but as I am an international students I dont see why are fellow Americans are complaining - I paid a tution fees of $45k for my 2 yrs in college and with accomodation I ended up paying 90k-100k, this comes from family values and a mentality in saving for the future. Thus I will vote for Hillary or McCain, Vote with your thoughts and not with your emotion. Vote what is right for American not by race.
Posted by: Cassnadra | Feb 26, 2008 10:32:11 AM
If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary's than they had ever been before or since.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.
You Might Be An Idiot!
If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..
Best regards
Posted by: jacksmith | Feb 26, 2008 10:10:32 AM
Jake - Are you going to put a post up about Obama - Rezko and now the Iraqi Muslim Billionaire from England that donate millions to Obama.
Becasue the slip of the tongue from Bill is a no news issue.
Posted by: spock | Feb 26, 2008 9:37:09 AM
I would love ABC to examine the candidate's positions on OUTSOURCING and Offshoring of jobs. Hillary has been a big supporter of increasing H1B visas. Worse than H1B visas is the abuse of L-1 visas where foreign labor is technically transferred to U.S. to fill jobs at reduced rates. It is killing people in the Information Technology field.
Posted by: Doug | Feb 26, 2008 9:13:18 AM
Come on! He's been running from the get-go. He is clearly the talent in this team. Why else would Hillary tolerate his infidelity given what a liability it is? Hillary can scream sexism all she likes but it won't change the fact that Bill is hugely better at it than she is. He is talent incarnate but what came as a suprise to the party insiders is it is not incarnate enough. What made Bill lose his South Carolina temper with Obama wasn't Obama, it's Hillary and her people's ineptitude costing him this election. That right there suddenly listed Bill as the same rank amateur Hillary is. I could hear the DNC going "whoa buddy" all the way from here.
Posted by: SE Croft | Feb 26, 2008 9:02:27 AM
Well . . . I suspected all along he was running. This just validated my suspicions. And I'm so sick and tired of him wagging and/or pointing that finger at me, I can't stand it!
Posted by: DanaDee | Feb 26, 2008 8:13:05 AM
VERY telling slip of tongue. As far as I recall, we've limited the Presidency to 8 years. 16 years of Bill/Hillary would be too much!!
Posted by: Martin in PA | Feb 26, 2008 8:10:21 AM
Clinton's freudian ego working overtime?
Posted by: LongT | Feb 26, 2008 7:56:32 AM
The one thing that amazes me the most about this campaign is the way the blacks have abandoned the very people that worked so hard for them in the past. I am not convinced the Clintons are racists but, so they have been marked by the black community. I have talked to some as to why and the answer I get is astounding. They automatically start to talk about racial injustice in this country and they think Obama will change all that. I don't know about the rest of you but, I don't believe one person is going to wave a hand and all sins in our past go away. Yes, it will help to make a statement that we are willing to become as one in a nation of color but, don't expect things to change overnight. And please don't become too agressive in your desire for change as I am already hearing rumblings from far to many on this subject. Yes, this has become an election about race more than I had hoped.
Posted by: vnvet68 | Feb 26, 2008 7:17:27 AM
Obama 2008 tp 2020.
Noble Peace Prize 20020.
- Texas.
Posted by: Khaja | Feb 26, 2008 4:38:10 AM
I wish he would just stay home.
Posted by: Sarita | Feb 26, 2008 3:41:00 AM
JtheJedit asked:
"Since then he's done..? ... Please tell me how he brings people together & "change" to Washington when his record is more polarizing than Kennedy?"
I'll take the bait...
Obama worked with Senator Richard Lugar (R) to expand the Nunn-Lugar nuclear security measures to include things like anti-aircraft weapons. The Obama-Lugar bill is a concret step forward in fighting terrorism, which I think both Democrats and Republicans can agree on.
Obama worked with Senator Coburn (R) to pass the "Google for government" bill, which makes information on contracts awarded by the federal government available and searchable online. This is a big step forward in improving the transparency and accountability of government, which has become a major problem in recent years.
Obama worked with Senator McCain (R) on ethics reform. I'm not sure if legislation has come out of this, but Obama demonstrated once again he was able to work constructively with Republicans on important issues.
Of course, you can find all of this information after just a few seconds on Wikipedia, something I encourage everyone to do. I don't support Obama because of his admittedly pretty speeches... I support him because I believe he has good judgement and the ability to get things done.
I don't vote with my heart, I vote with my head. Go Obama!
Posted by: jheath | Feb 26, 2008 3:21:52 AM
Is it biased reporting to show Hillary for who she is? I believe she is what she is long before any mdeia coverage of this election. It's clear that the media only reports what most of know about Hillary--she'll do whatever it take to win, whether by deceit, falsehoods, and vicious attacks. We've all seen this before. In contrast, there isn't much on Obama and hence what's there to report?
Media makes money by reporting news that we want to hear or find interesting. I don't think it's any coincidence that negative reports on Hilliary is on the rise as most people do not like Hilliary and wish both Clintons to relegate themselves to history and move on. If most people find Hillary in positive light then the reporting would be very different as all media need attentive consumers to purchase the products they push on air. It's called capitalism and Hillary supporters should see the writing on the all and finally concede that it's over. It wasn't the campaign. It was the candidate stupid.
Posted by: Thomas | Feb 26, 2008 1:15:25 AM
Oldest Hispanic Group within the Texas Democratic Party Makes Endorsement Following Meeting in Dallas
AUSTIN – Yesterday, the Mexican American Democrats endorsed Senator Barack Obama in his campaign for president, citing his longstanding relationship with Hispanic community and commitment to improving the lives of Hispanic men, women and children in Texas and across America.
The Mexican American Democrats believe that Senator Obama’s experience bringing Americans of all ages, religions, races and ethnicities together make him the best candidate to make progress on the issues that matter to Hispanics in Texas and across America. Obama’s leadership in the U.S. Senate on comprehensive immigration reform and his specific plans to strengthen our schools, bring about universal healthcare, and provide tax relief for working families show us that he is truly committed to improving the lives of Hispanics and all Americans.
In the face of a tight primary race in Texas, the Hispanic community’s participation at the polls will be crucial in deciding who will be the nominees of the Democratic Party. The mission of the Mexican American Democrats is to unify and empower the Mexican American-Latino community by increasing voting numbers to achieve political influence on issues that affect the Hispanic Community, as well as promote Hispanics as political candidates and appointees.
On Saturday February 16, the Mexican American Democrats’ endorsement committee met in Dallas to screen Democratic candidates running for office. Candidate response and participation was overwhelming. The committee heard from candidates on issues of importance to Mexican American Democrats in writing, as well as in person via conference call.
Posted by: JUAN | Feb 26, 2008 12:48:41 AM
this is about par for an impeached president,disbarred lawyer(for lying). as they say get down with the snakes.
Posted by: bobo | Feb 26, 2008 12:24:00 AM
Nominating a presidential candidate with experience and proven good judgement appears to be the intellingent course for Democrats as we face serious recession and an unending war in Irag. Instead, the Democrats choose Obama. So much for the Democrats!
Posted by: Fredric Fortney | Feb 26, 2008 12:03:09 AM
Vincent- when say "man can cheat with words, his actions will not" and then exalt Bill Clinton...WHAT ARE YOU THINKING!!!
This is the man who parsed the word "is"! The man who looked into the CNN TV camera and said to you and me "I did not have sex with that woman!"
Don't vote with your wallet (I throw up everytime someone says "it's the economy, stupid") vote with your conscience. We need leadership with experience and character...you will not find either on the Democratic ticket.
Posted by: JtheJedi | Feb 25, 2008 11:38:20 PM
Man can cheat with words, his behavior will not
When I watched Mr. Obama speech, I have to say he is a natural born preacher and he really is if he is inside the church. He speaks like a preacher and sounded like he is very compassionate. Yet, he is doing negative campaign saying bad things about Bill Clinton and try to relate that NAFTA to Hillary. Bill Clinton may have his personal problems. But as president, he has done much better that most of other president. He turn around the big national debt to surplus. If I have a big debt i would be worried. Economy matters the most, just look at where we are now. His relationship with other women is not our business. He gave what American people really need. While they are all Democrats comrades, and Obama just trash his comrades because he just try to win the nomination. In fact, NAFTA may have done its purpose to benefit the US, especially the Big3 car companies. That allow them to bring cheap parts and labors to keep the cost down to stay alive. People who complain about NAFTA should really complain their company by not doing a good job to build a better quality cars to compete. People buy foreign cars for their quality. without NAFTA, GM and Ford could have closed more plants. Our foreign debts are not from Mexico, they are from Asia. NAFTA is not the ones that hurt us. It is the war that cost us a lot of money and Bush administration does not care about or didn't know how to fix our economy. There is no reason to blame NAFTA, which is passed by Congress, and Obama is trying to use it to win the plant workers' vote. He made it sound like all his fellow comrades in the Congress are idiots. What a shame! I would be worried if he is my comrade or my colleague. I would be more worried if he becomes US president. Our media is not a reliable source, just look back 4 years ago. John Kelly lost the election. The media played a big role and people lost their fair judgement. We can 't complain our own mistake to other people. Remember the media is controlled by rich people. If we follow it without look clearly, we are controlled unconsciously. We know he has lot of campaign money and ran the most ads on medias. Since he has very little track record that can show his real capability or what he has done. If you watch closely, you can see more inconsistent thing from his speech and his behavior. That's the only way to figure out his real personality. He just reminds me that there are many cases that many big churchs preacher has made a lot of problems. They are all great speakers. They did not contribute to our economy. They are rich. Where does their money come from? Your donation. Watch out! If unfortunately Obama gets nominated, I will go for 3rd party.
God bless US.
Posted by: Vincent | Feb 25, 2008 11:31:31 PM
Obama lovers:
Tell me where this guy came from. You know where...the scintillating speech at the last Democratic Convention. Before that..? Since then he's done..? Not even his most ardent supports can say anything he's actually accomplished. The one thing he has done in the two years as a Senator he wasn't running for President is rack up the most liberal record in the Senate. Please tell me how he brings people together & "change" to Washington when his record is more polarizing than Kennedy?
Buying a book because Oprah says so- fine, but electing a President because she says "he da' man" and he can deliver an inspiring speech?!
McCain- you know where he stands and that he's stood against his own party to accomplish things for America he believes in. He can bring real change because he has a record of working with Democrats, knows how to get it done, and will not give terrorists a hopeful window of opportunity Obama as would.
Posted by: JtheJedi | Feb 25, 2008 11:29:06 PM
I heard him say the same thing a few weeks ago on the radio.
Creeepy.
Posted by: jenny | Feb 25, 2008 11:25:35 PM
Shame on you. Like most media coverage. You always say negative thing to Hillary and positive thing to Obama. Just count your articles, however many pro-obama, how many against Hillary? Should you be nature? What did you learn in your college? Is that why so called, "high educated" voter support Obama? No question, you voted Bush 4 years ago. America is falling because your vote 4 years ago. America can not afford another free fall. European and China is catching up us. Our currency is was down more than 50% since 2000. The biggest company in US no longer has biggest market cap. Now the biggest market cap company is Chinese Oil Company. USA'S company yhoo, goog are losing the contest with Chinese local company any more. It's another evident US education system broken. Because the high-educated voted turned to be too liberal and lack of reality. When you wake up, it may be too later for you to realize this Country is falling behind. Wake up! We do not need so much Liberal; we need hard work to bring our country back!
Vote for working people, Hillary!
Posted by: bobfor hrc | Feb 25, 2008 10:39:46 PM
EX-CON FOR CO-PRESIDENT - BILL CLINTON: Where to start? This ex-con, convicted of lying to a federal grand jury, obstruction of justice, stripped of his right to practice law is the only president impeached in modern times. There was also his use of the Arkansas State Troopers to chauffeur him to visit his many mistresses. But at least he visited Jennifer Flowers and a few others on his own dime. And don’t forget Monica “I did not have sex with that woman - Lewinsky.“ This felon who wants to be your CO-PRESIDENT recently made himself 31 MILLION DOLLARS by facilitating a deal with the government of Kazakhstan, a country that has one of the worst records on human rights in history. Clinton has been reduced to a pathetic figure unable to complete a sentence without a reference to himself. DON’T LET BILL STINK UP THE WHITE HOUSE AGAIN!
Posted by: Randle Bate | Feb 25, 2008 10:18:31 PM
I am not for Hillary but there is no need to create anything out of this, he started with Hillary, says so that is about it much ado about nothing.
Posted by: Mark Twain | Feb 25, 2008 9:57:06 PM
In 2005 Hillary went to India. She praised the Republican Outsourcing program that gave Government Financial Incentives to send American Jobs to the people of India. Hillary forgot one little thing. The people in India are not the ones who vote for the President of USA. No! It is, instead, people like MY HUSBAND, whose American High Tech Job that went to India and left my husband high and dry, who happen to be the ones voting. Well, needless to say, we are voting for OBAMA. Obama08
Posted by: Angie | Feb 25, 2008 9:55:33 PM
First, there's some one on here talking about how the Clintons are loved. If they're so loved, why can't she win? Why does she have such a disapproval ratings, such a high percentage of people who won't vote for her. Who exactly loves her?
Second, Bill Clinton is a meglomanic. He's power greedy. Anyone can see this. A lot of his issues stem from his early family life. He's a classic case. Bill could care less about the Constitution; hence the various Supreme Court cases he lost while in office, and, unlike Bush, they weren't about protecting Americans from the dangers of terrorism.
Bill Clinton is a lying cheating self-obsessed power hungry corrupt low life who accomplished a fraction of what he thinks he did, a fraction of a fraction of what his supporters think he did, and caused more harm than people will realize for a generation. He wants to be king and the idiots who cry king bush would be more than willing to crown him and drop to their knees like the reporter who expressly offered to as thanks for his strong support for abortion rights.
America is waking up to the joke and nightmare the clintons have been. The sleeze machine is threw.
Posted by: Rocki Batheow | Feb 25, 2008 9:49:00 PM
And the REAL problem with electing Hillary emerges...Bill the Perv back to dirty up the Oval office again but remember He can't run again because he is no longer allowed to hold a Federal office since he was charged and found GUILTY of perjury.
Posted by: Sam | Feb 25, 2008 9:45:02 PM
Funny...with all the negativities towards the Clintons, makes me think you are either Republicans,hypocrits or our inexperienced youth listing their thoughts. Churn away, wasting your time and dreaming like a young Republican in 2000, captivated with this new fresh figure that promises unity, no war and prosperity...wake up America and read your history...this has happened many times before. Joe Walsh For President 2008...yeah I know...you're too young to remember.
Posted by: James | Feb 25, 2008 8:48:58 PM
If only the American People knew how President Clinton saved us from the First Bush you wouldn't vote for anyone but Hillary.
Trust me this man is a saint. Hillary is a fighter. They are VERY experienced in the White House.
Obama has no experience. I would NEVER hire someone to even work as a manager of my business without experience.
Why would any American not see the importance of that. I guess most people don't understand the importance of experience.
I know that it would be the worst mistake for me to hire a CEO for my company without the knowledge.
Why would Americans think it could be any different than that for our country.
The world knows the Clintons and believe me THEY ARE LOVED!!!!!!!
They will be welcomed intertnationally.
WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!
Posted by: Alice Rea | Feb 25, 2008 8:43:25 PM
Can you hear it? The State of The Union Address: "Ladies and Gentleman...The PRESIDENTS of the United States!" Or maybe "Ladies and Gentleman, MR.& MRS. PRESIDENT." I'm gonna puke now, OK?
Posted by: michael basham | Feb 25, 2008 8:09:54 PM
two experienced people running in the white house! wow that would be horrible! SHUT UP OBAMA FANS WATCH THE NIGHTLY NEWS ON ABC ABOUT YOUR WONDER BOY! HILLARY 08!
Posted by: christy | Feb 25, 2008 8:05:15 PM
Speaking of "REDUX": I wish this process could be rewound to day one and I could wake up in the morning and hear a fresh slate of candidates from both parties. Now that would be progress!
Posted by: michael basham | Feb 25, 2008 8:03:20 PM
It's incredible that the Clintons would be so blatant about running together. I'm not shocked. That's come and gone. You have to admit: That's one way to get around the two term thing. Sneaky, but effective...
Posted by: Russ G | Feb 25, 2008 8:00:21 PM
Since I am a Republican, I certainly do hope that Mrs Clinton wins in both Texas and Ohio: my ideal situation involves neither of them having a majority on the first ballot even after the superdelegates are counted in. Politics in this country is basically entertainment, and it has been far too long since we have had the total circus that is an open convention.
And, of course, whoever faces McCain in November (probably Obama) would be in a weaker position.
I agree completely that Obama will be the tougher man for my guy to beat on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November. God Bless you Ralph Nader! Would someone see if they can talk Kucinich into a third-party bid?
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Posted by: Josh Geller | Feb 25, 2008 7:46:44 PM
For you Health care people who are sick of all the hand outs. all you need to do in California to take advantage of the give away health care is to arrive here pregnant from some foreign country legally, you then proceed to go in and claim that you are poor and can't afford prenatal care, of course to get here you first had to prove to the consulate you were wealthy enough to fund your entire stay here.
So why don't they arrest these women as fraud was committed at one point in the process?.
Posted by: Patriot2008 | Feb 25, 2008 6:58:05 PM
Bill & Hillary Clinton are nothing but a crying babies looking for attention at all cost probably we all should ignore the entire family period.Because there's a lot at stake this year we can't afford to send the same old washington players back to the white house definitely we've to change the chapter "YES.WE.CAN
OBAMA "08
Posted by: Abdul Olufowobi | Feb 25, 2008 6:54:10 PM
Weak Bill, weak. If the two of you are runnign for President come out of the closet on it. Now we know she can't beat Obama on her own. If she can't do that, how is she going to be taken seriously as a leader?
Posted by: Louis | Feb 25, 2008 6:34:29 PM
Noboma--I agree with you 100%!!
I had to take my sister to a clinic @ our charity hospital, (Her insurance makes her go to a doctor at the clinic!!)and the people there getting free health care with their big fine cars, great clothes, Coach purses and all kinds of cell phone gizmo's and gadgets!! It's utterly horrilbe!! If they can afford all those things--they can afford to pay for healthcare. Something!! I am sick and tired of funding their healthcare.
Posted by: Kay | Feb 25, 2008 6:04:26 PM
The Clinton's will do what ever it takes to get back into the White House, The way they have tossed mud in resent weeks makes me sick!!!
I have voted republican all my life, and will vote for John McCain this year if its Clinton Vs McCain
However if its Barack Obama Vs John McCain,, I will go with Obama, it is time for some youth, and new ideas.....
Clinton's go Home for good!!!!!
After all can you imagine any Young Intern Safe in the White House, with a Predator like Bill Clinton on the Hunt..
Posted by: MEW | Feb 25, 2008 4:56:42 PM
Interesting that they have taken down the SNL skit. I have had posts removed from this forum for whatever reason. Makes you wonder doesn't it? I watched it last night and it was hilarious (no pun intended). I agree with Tina Fey, to have 2 qualified highly intelligent people both living in the White House is just crazy!!
Posted by: firefighter | Feb 25, 2008 4:34:06 PM
Not that was a pull. come on, did axlerod slip you a million?
that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen you try to pull off.
Posted by: eleven22 | Feb 25, 2008 4:31:11 PM
Bill's speaking for his wife. Um, let's face it, people are voting for her thinking that he'll be in charge behind the scenes just like she was during his term anyway. I'm sorry but these two should open a buisness up together. You simply can't run anything like a "co-presidency" anymore. Especially not in these days were in. So Hilliary has to listen to her cheif of staff, vice-president and various advisers, come to a decision on a particular issue, and then call up Bill to get the final say? All I'm gonna say is that in a crisis of ANY kind, will we have the time to ask everybody's opinion, THEN locate Bill for his final say? No wonder Clinton, Sandy Berger, and Madeline Albright couldn't get Bin Laden in Tora Bora when they had the chance. Think folks, it today's world, NOBODY can handle crisis by committee. You cannot confront a national crisis with the tyranny of the majority. You have to be able to be decisive. Anything less is incompetence.
Posted by: cba | Feb 25, 2008 4:19:54 PM
Is cool that if we elect Clinton, it'd be like having so much experience in one place.
Posted by: m3kw9 | Feb 25, 2008 4:18:37 PM
Here's a fun story from Fox News.
Democratic House Divided: Pa. Man Stabs Brother-In-Law Over Election
by FOXNews.com
Monday, February 25, 2008
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The cut-throat world of presidential politics usually doesn’t go this far to get its point across.
But Jose Ortiz, 28 — a Hillary Clinton supporter — is behind bars after stabbing his Barack Obama-supporting brother-in-law, Sean Shurelds, following a political argument, according to KYW1060.com.
“One is a supporter of Barack Obama, the other is a supporter of Hillary Clinton, and an argument of words turned bloody when one brother-in-law tried to choke the other and the victim then responded with a knife and stabbed his brother-in-law in the stomach,” Montgomery County, Pa., District Attorney Risa Furman said, according to KYW.
Shurelds was taken to the hospital in critical condition, and police allegedly found the weapon in a dishwasher at the Collegeville home where the two brawled.
Ortiz faces felony assault charges and was being held on $20,000 bond.
KYW reports that if Ortiz is convicted of the felony charge, he won’t be able to vote.
On a side note: Voter registration records reveal that Ortiz, who supports Clinton, is registered Republican.
Posted by: Wil | Feb 25, 2008 4:09:57 PM
Everyone should contact NBC to object to its withdrawal. Again, what are they afraid of?
Is satire more effective than pretty speeches?
Posted by: twinmom48 | Feb 25, 2008 3:58:51 PM
What the heck did Bill say? The only one that says anything lucid enough to understand is Ron Paul. The rest is just: wa wa, wa wa wa wa
Posted by: Don | Feb 25, 2008 3:57:40 PM
What is NBC afraid of? Their bias is showing. Sunday's Meet the Press was an infomercial for Obama.