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"Bunk"

February 03, 2008 11:01 AM

Interesting contrast of quotes:

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, on her war vote, from Thursday night's Democratic debate:

"I believe that it is abundantly clear that the case that was outlined on behalf of going to the resolution -- not going to war, but going to the resolution -- was a credible case. I was told personally by the White House that they would use the resolution to put the inspectors in. I worked with Senator Levin to make sure we gave them all the intelligence so we would know what's there...I think I made a reasoned judgment. Unfortunately, the person who actually got to execute the policy did not…I believe strongly that we needed to put inspectors in, that was the underlying reason why I at least voted to give President Bush the authority, put those inspectors in, let them do their work, figure out what is there and what isn't there."

And then there's this:

"As opposition to the war has grown, some of the Democrats who supported it began to claim their vote was to pressure on Iraq -- that they voted merely to give the president the option to go to war. Bunk. The war resolution was a blank check. Senator Robert Byrd told his colleagues during debate on the resolution that they were 'handing the president unchecked authority.' The language of the resolution could not be clearer: 'The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate' against Iraq."

-- James Carville and Paul Begala, Take it Back: A Battle Plan for Democratic Victory, 2006.

(Hat tip to Mr. Russert.)

-- jpt

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If you were a US senator in 2002-2003, how do you explain your affirmative vote on the war in Iraq without having to apologize for it or admit that you were wrong? Simple: you parse the language of the resolution so finely and so Byzantinely that you mak a Talmudic scholar look like a rank amateur. Sen. Clinton is, once again, "triangulating" her position and calling into question her veracity and trustworthiness.

Posted by: chuck | Feb 5, 2008 9:22:08 AM

Right wing math at work. Somehow the attack of 9/11 = zero attacks under Bush. And the thousands of subsequent attacks on our forces and our allies forces and populations count for nothing under right wing mathematics.

In 1998, Clinton signed the Iraq Liberation Act. This Act in no way authorized the invasion and occupation of Iraq. It says the US should support regime change and a transition to democracy in Iraq. Until 2003, the US pursued these goals by protecting the Kurds, supporting democratic Iraqi groups in exile, and containing Sadaam. The policy was highly effective in preventing Iraq from getting WMD, as we found after Bush ordered the invasion. Bush refused to allow the UN inspectors more time to clarify the situation. Too bad Fox News and talk radio has resulted in vast numbers of uninformed people.

Posted by: Tom Paine | Feb 4, 2008 9:46:28 PM

What is the excuse for the authorization asked by Bill Clinton in 98?

attacked 9 times under Clinton, attacked 0 times under Bush!

Dont forget about Obama saying he stands behind the Presiden going into Iraq!

Posted by: spock | Feb 4, 2008 2:29:41 PM

There is absolutely no contradiction between the two quotes. Senator Clinton has said she expected Bush to behave honorably, allow full inspections, and only use force as a last resort. He did not, to his eternal infamy. He has disgraced this nation.

And when, by the way, will the media, including ABC news and its reporters, issue its mea culpas for fomenting the war frenzy that enabled the president to misuse his authority?

Posted by: Tom Paine | Feb 4, 2008 1:55:46 PM

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/011884.php
by eriposte

"Sen. Clinton has been criticized by many progressives for claiming that she voted for the October 2002 Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Iraq with a view of strengthening the inspections regime against Iraq and not with the idea of authorizing an unjustifiable and unilateral invasion of Iraq (as many critics allege). Now, there is no doubt that the resolution did authorize force against Iraq under certain conditions, but a review of the real history of what happened in the months preceding and following the AUMF makes it clear that Sen. Clinton has a very legitimate case, as did Sen. John Kerry when he was campaigning in 2004."

Here is what happened in 2002, behind the scenes, as recounted by Hans Blix...

Posted by: lowdowndog | Feb 4, 2008 11:33:42 AM

This has to be from Tim Russert.

Bush called it a Resolution "for peace." You're right. There were those of us who saw through it, but many gave the President the benefit of the doubt and took him at his word. I wish the Dems could see right off that he couldn't be trusted, but those were flag waving times that the President was more than willing to exploit, and our memories were of Persian Gulf I, and how poorly it reflected on the dems who voted against it.

Posted by: Memekiller | Feb 4, 2008 1:36:19 AM

Obama says that this is a race of the past vs the future and he is always first on referncing the past and seeking past political supporters.

And when he said to Clinton -it's not only to be ready on day one you have to be right on day one, well later he said in response to a question that he doesn't want people who are yes people he wants them to tell him no becuase he won't always be right. -Make up your mind Obama. i want someone who is firm and ready.

Hillary 08

Posted by: Martin | Feb 3, 2008 7:00:13 PM

Who cares. Obama in the same position may of voted for it to. Its easy to say you opposed something in hind sight. I remember after 9-11. Almost everybody wanted war. It was like after Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: djioopg | Feb 3, 2008 2:31:42 PM

Who cares anymore. Talking about the past the who what when why how and where is not going to solve any problems. We need a plan of action, what are we going to do next, that's more important to me than bringing up the past, we can't change the past but we can make sure that the future is better and as a nation will be stronger.

Posted by: Kardasia_Prime | Feb 3, 2008 12:43:44 PM

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