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Carville: Hillary Must Win Ohio and Texas or 'This Thing Is Done'

February 13, 2008 10:33 PM

At a trade show in Orlando, Fla., today, where he and his wife Mary Matalin made a speaking appearance, James Carville, an adviser to Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., made a candid assessment of Clinton's chances.

"She’s behind," Carville said, according to the Orlando Sentinel (LINK). "Make no mistake. If she loses either Texas or Ohio, this thing is done."

The candor in the claim, even from Carville, is what might be startling, not the math. 

It's unclear if Carville knew a reporter was in the audience of thousands at the International Builders Show convention.

- jpt

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How Can Hillary Run a Nation When Hillary Mismanaged Her Campaign?

The Texas and Ohio presidential primaries, have become required wins, hence why is she just opening campaign field offices in those states?

The primary in Pennsylvania, is crucial hence why is there is not enough money for his direct mail to voters?

Maine caucuses were the best for Clinton to win hence why did Obama, have better internet operations to energize its supporters and won by 20 points!

Clinton and her team put too much money on Iowa, New Hampshire, and Feb. 5 that they have been caught flat broke in the rest so far?

How does Hillary expect to unite a coalition when HRC made a tactical choice to omit several small states holding caucuses?

How can she run the Office of the president when HRC’s heavy misspending and low fund-raising show Hillary’s troubles by leaving the campaign unprepared after Feb. 5.

Hillary sent out 5 direct mailings in New York and California to only women not one to white or black males, is that the politics of unity or disassociation from selected groups?

On the other hand, in Idaho, Senator Obama’s campaign set up nearly a year before the Feb. 5 caucus with five offices and 20 paid staff members drawing 14,000 people to the Taco Bell Arena. Obama won Idaho by 62 percentage points and took most of the delegates. where was Hillary?

In Washington State HR Clinton, sent Senator Maria Cantwell, to drop by just before the caucuses, Senator Obama won Washington by 36 percentage points?

In Minnesota, Clinton allocated her diminishing assets to New York and California, at the very time, Senator Obama has created a new-fangled approach of campaigning, and Obama won Minnesota by 34 percentage points! In North Dakota caucuses, Senator Obama sends out a staff member there to begin organizing 11 full-time staff members, Obama won both states!

Hillary did not visit the state of Utah one time, is this Hillary’s way of saying they do not count in America anymore to her?

If white and black males, and young people as well as people in Utah, Idahoa and many other states, how can Hillary Clinton say she will be a President for everyone on day one?

Posted by: Agmines | Feb 14, 2008 4:32:06 PM

"A Clinton-Obama ticket would be a very good ticket for the Democrats."

Yeah, but they'd also have to merge the campaign staffs and that won't be easy. David Axelrod, David Wilhelm, Mark Penn and James Carville in the same team?

Don't expect any of those guys to throw in the towel if the bumper sticker says Obama Clinton 2008.

Posted by: DanielK | Feb 14, 2008 3:17:03 PM

As soon as Obama sews up the nomination he will be character assasinated just like the Clintons were. Welcome to swift boat nation.

Posted by: kumbaya | Feb 14, 2008 2:53:39 PM

not only that, but mathematically, since she doesn't plan on competing in any other state, she has to win 80-20 in those three states to pull it off.

Reality calling Clinton campaign -- not gonna happen

Posted by: Mark from NY | Feb 14, 2008 1:52:01 PM

He then added, "...thing is over...CAJUN STYLE!"

Posted by: Mike | Feb 14, 2008 1:24:32 PM

Go Hillary! I loved hearing DeeDee Myers state that it is still okay in this country to say anything you want about a woman. So true! Women need to take this whole experience and reignite the women's movement - we are so discriminated against and it is still okay. The media has been so unprofessional and biased in their reporting against Hillary. And then they say she is a bit defensive!??? Who wouldn't be with the bashing she gets no matter what she does or says, wins or loses. Obama needs to be investigated thoroughly- for the good of the country. Who knows anything about his personality even, let alone his policy, beliefs, track record.

Posted by: votetheissues | Feb 14, 2008 12:58:24 PM

Hillary won't walk across Texas that's for sure. There are many Texans who despise the Clintons.

I am supporting Obama. If Hillary, for any reason, appears on the November ballott then I will back McCain all the way to the White House. I believe Obama has the character and the unity this country is starved for. If the majority of democrats are too blind to see that, then I will have no choice.

All this experience talk about Hillary is really a joke. She is too polarizing and only cares about power.

What some pollsters are missing is the huge significance of us independents and cross-over republicans. We are probably a larger swing vote than Hispanics here in Texas. I don't think we will be supporting Hillary now do you?

Posted by: A Texas Independent Voter | Feb 14, 2008 12:09:56 PM

DanielK,

In a new Quinnipiac Poll released today, Senator Hillary Clinton holds a substantial lead over Senator Barack Obama in the key primary states of Ohio and Pennsylvania.

In Ohio, Clinton leads Obama by a margin of 55-34. According to the poll, Clinton holds a 26 point advantage among women and a 10 point advantage among men.

In Pennsylvania, Clinton leads 52-36. She holds a 20 point lead among women and a 10 point lead with women.

Also in Pennsylvania, Hillary Clinton beats John McCain by six points in a head-to-head matchup. McCain is tied, however, with Barack Obama in the state. Clinton also attracts more support than Obama against McCain in both Ohio and Florida.

Posted by: Pat | Feb 14, 2008 11:33:44 AM

In Case You Missed It: "Obama's (economic) plan. is the most shameless piece of potential plagiarism that I have ever seen. He basically took Clinton's words and Clinton's policies and called them his own. If I were a professor I'd give him an F and try to get him kicked out of school," said Kevin Hassett, Sen. John McCain's economic advisor and the Director of Economic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute.

Posted by: Pat | Feb 14, 2008 11:24:58 AM

"...the Republican blogs urging moderates and independents to vote for Obama, whom they view as the weaker candidate?"

Regular readers of this blog know that I am a conservative Republican who is displeased with Sen. McCain being our nominee. I had hoped that the Republican National Convention would have been a brokered convention; and would have drafted Dr. Condoleezza Rice as our nominee. That will not happen. Sen. McCain will be our nominee. And I will suppport him. I am now hoping for a McCain-Rice ticket.

Having said that, I have no clue as to whether Sen. Obama or Sen. Clinton would be the "easier" candidate to face in November. They are both very formidable candidates. If Sen. Clinton pulls this out and becomes the Democratic Party's nominee, she WILL ask Sen. Obama to be her running mate. I really don't see Sen. Obama turning her down.

A Clinton-Obama ticket would be a very good ticket for the Democrats. It would unify the Democratic Party. BUT Sen. Clinton still has her many negatives that will be exploited in the general election. Not to mention the lawsuit (Peter F. Paul vs Bill Clinton, Sen. Hillary Clinton and the Hillary Rodham Clinton for U. S. Senate Committee) -- that the media refuses to cover-- that is pending in California. Google it!

On the other hand, should Sen. Obama win the nomination, his first choice might be to ask Sen. Clinton to be his running mate. But she will NEVER take second seat. Instead I would expect Sen. Obama to end up selecting Gov. Bill Richardson as his running mate. This, in my opinion, would be the very best ticket for the Democrats.

But an Obama-Richardson ticket is not without its problems. It may be difficult for Sen. Obama to overcome the fact that he has just three years of the U. S. Senate (and 8 years of the Illinois State Senate) under his belt, with most of the last year being on the campaign trail. Especially since we are at war, and he would be going up against a bonafide war hero. But unlike Sen. Clinton (who, by the way, only has 7 years of elected office experience), Sen. Obama is very charismatic and charming. He is a very inspirational speaker. Traits that Sen. McCain lacks!

Posted by: James Danley | Feb 14, 2008 9:53:52 AM

Yeah, She is looking about done to me. However, you never know what tricks the Clinton's have up their sleeve.

Posted by: Terry Reeves | Feb 14, 2008 9:35:24 AM

I'm not sure if we should listen to anything a Texan says, look what we got the last eight years. Anyone that voted for Bush twice really should sit this one out because of lack of common sense.

Posted by: Mike | Feb 14, 2008 8:03:21 AM

Texans remember the Clinton Crime Machine. They remember all the lies, the corruption, the Clintons' loathing of the military, how they trashed and stole from the White House. Texans know they don't need eight more years of that.

Posted by: Tell the Truth | Feb 14, 2008 7:40:02 AM

I can't see how Hillary is going to be able to stop the Obama Train. He has a lot of "MO" on his side right now and that train is going to pick up speed next week. I have nothing against Hillary I just think that Barack is much more what this country needs right now. Obama 2008!!!!

Posted by: Mike | Feb 14, 2008 7:07:56 AM

I am from El Paso and was at the rally for Hillary this past Tuesday evening. The energy there was amazing and everyone is still talking about her. We are a humble city but we are bursting with pride in support of Hillary. Don't worry ya'll, Texas is in the bag. Hillary's gonna cowgirl up and kick some butt!!

Posted by: Laura P | Feb 14, 2008 4:48:01 AM

When will the mainstream media take note of the Republican blogs urging moderates and independents to vote for Obama, whom they view as the weaker candidate? Surely the dramatic increase of Democratic voters in especially the Red states, where they are not likely to win, should arouse suspicion. I fear a repeat of the 1972 campaign when Muskie was knocked out by a Republican dirty trick. McGovern had captured the young, anti-war and hope-for-change vote and was blown out of the water by NIxon, who wanted to run against him as the weaker candidate. We need to implement change and to run against the experienced military guy McCain.. We need Hillary.

Posted by: IkdNcGovernDemocrat | Feb 14, 2008 4:40:29 AM

P.S. I am still voting for Hillary. I would never miss my chance to vote for a
woman for president. I will stick with her until a candidate is nominated in Denver in August. I am a Democrat and will support whomever is nominated to represent our party for president. I will vote for Hillary on March 4th, and if need be for Obama in November. So Be It.

Posted by: Bocona | Feb 14, 2008 4:17:11 AM

Joseph - Great article on Obama being so meek when dismissed by McCain and what we can expect if Obama has to go up against McCain. (hope it doesn't get that far).

With Hillary at risk, friends of mine in Texas are sending money to her campaign and making sure they vote. We Texan Democrats and Hillary supporters may be risk takers - but we are calculated & educated risk-takers. We believe Hillary has substance and strength and endurance and is competent. She is the only candidate who can credibly stand up to McCain and tough world leaders to best represent America's interests.

Skip the fluff and vote for substance - Vote Hillary in 2008.

Posted by: Carrie | Feb 14, 2008 4:14:53 AM

It ain't over, till it's over. Why is it that the news media is so quick to count Hillary Clinton out? I so sick and tired of all the pundits beating up on Hillary. Even she were to be doing well or great they would still be negative towards her and her campaign. Men do not want to see a woman president
It's that "Glass Ceiling" again.

Posted by: Bocona | Feb 14, 2008 4:09:24 AM

He was just stating the facts as we all know it. I'm Hillary -supporter but she needs to start winning again at some point to get the nomination.

The states for the past week were more Obama-friendly,where she really didn't stand a chance, but she has to win in Texas and Ohio (and Pensylvania)! If she doesn't, Obama's the winner and we'll just have to deal with that...

Posted by: Missmadeleine2002 | Feb 14, 2008 3:46:12 AM

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