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Clinton-Backer: Tough to Criticize Obama Without Being Accused of Playing the Race Card

February 27, 2008 3:33 PM

Lanny Davis -- the former White House special counsel to President Bill Clinton, and backer of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY -- said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" this morning, "It's very hard to criticize Sen. Obama without being accused of playing the race card."

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6/20/08 I watched Barack's comments about the opposition going after him for being young, inexperienced, having a funny name, and the reminder that he is Black. Let them try the first 3 but don't dignify the last one with an acknowledgemen Everyone who can see, sees that he is black - I felt that was a needless remark that could make the matter worse. My prayers are with you - we really need you!!!

Posted by: Norma Bilyeu | Jun 21, 2008 12:31:53 AM

May the "bright light" of Obama reveal it's consequential dark shadow of his inexperience to the electorial masses.
He projects the same optimism and hope to his party that George Bush did to his.
I will go with the candidate that exposes all of their scars and mistakes before I go for the delivery of a snake oil salesmen selling hope.
We as as a collective
group of individuals have a remarkable short memory.

Posted by: Bill martin / Berkeley | Mar 6, 2008 8:23:31 PM

It's not about race so much as it is about woman being 2nd class. The press is all over Obama while they dump on Clinton. Im a man but if i was a woman, i would be tickd off big time. Sadly to say, men in this country are not secure in there manhood to vote for a woman who is smater than most of them. I have faith in Texas and Ohio. not to go for what the press is doing by building up Obama and dumping on Clinton.

Posted by: Garry | Feb 29, 2008 12:42:59 PM

"Clinton-Backer: Tough to Criticize Obama Without Being Accused of Playing the Race Card" lol

AND THAT IS NOT PLAYING THE "RACE CARD"?

Typical hypocrisy coming out of the Classless Clintons camp!

Why not CRITICIZE OBAMA ON THE ISSUES?

Especially when the Clintons have so much PERSONAL BAGGAGE, they should be the last one to be getting personal!

Monica Lewinski was ALSO in the White House and worked more closely under the President than Hilary. Does that make Monica qualified to run for Presidency? lol

Posted by: New Yorker | Feb 29, 2008 9:14:11 AM

OH I am sorry i got on the wrong website i thought i was in america but for what i read i am not i thought we had got beyound race in 2008 t i see it is still alive but just hide behind close door. maybe i need to move to another country where people will judge me by who iam in steady of the color of my skin thank you and have a bless day.

Posted by: hattie lee | Feb 29, 2008 1:55:38 AM

As an Italian woman I support Barrack because I believe he can handle the job as president with dignity and stability. I'm ashamed of how Hillary is portraying women with her fake debate graciousness only to scream with finger wagging the following day then to Blame the media for her failing campaign. Is this how she'll act as president? No Thanks!

Posted by: Gina | Feb 29, 2008 1:10:34 AM

All I know is that liberals should rejoice when the three candidates are a leftish Republican and two lefty Democrats. If they could drop their obsession with a war that is finally taking a turn for the better (especially for Iraqis) they might well throw themselves a party! They've already won.

Posted by: David G | Feb 28, 2008 11:36:49 PM

Obama makes my heart flutter and my knees go weak. I think I'll vote for him.

Posted by: pc | Feb 28, 2008 9:04:12 PM

As an African, I would dearly love to have an African American as the president. However, I look at Obama and, although I hear good words, I see a blank page. One of his strongest points is that he opposed the Iraq war. It is true he did but the media and political pundits should have educated voters on the fact that HE WAS NOT IN THE SENATE at the time so we do not know how he would have voted! If we go by his records in the Illinois legislature, he would have most probably voted "present" ie neither against the war nor for it. Another point the media should have highlighted is how has he voted on issues related to the war???? But no one talks about that - he is obviously a media favorite. When JFK ran for the presidency, his faith was mentioned and discussed. No problem then. Now mentioning Hussein is taboo and discussing the fact that a candidate's parents are muslims is politically incorrect. Everyone should take pride in his/her name and religious ancestry. But no one can talk about this man without being accused of something so we are all left with a blank page.....at least until the republicans start firing on all fronts and the "swift boat" adverts start rolling on TV. Obama is brilliant, inspiring and has potential for greatness but, like good wine, he needs time to mature. It is sad that he is being hyped up so that when he is brought down, he can only drop into political oblivion!

Posted by: Victor | Feb 28, 2008 5:12:30 PM

It is really sad to say, but a big part of this race is about race. The Clintons were accused of injecting the race card, but they did not. Their words talking about honoring Martin Luther King and a President's help in getting civil rights legislation passed were twisted by the media and the Obama camp. The criticism of the media's lack of scrutiny of Obama's Iraq voting record (the same as Hillary's) was twisted by the media and the Obama camp to mean Obama was called a fairytale.
Now, a superdelegate, John Lewis, who has always supported Hillary, has bowed to the pressure to give his vote to Obama. A black minister in Atlanta is already planning to run against him. Do you think the black population he represents will support him then? There are a multitude of issues where the race issue is front and center, but everyone walks on eggshells afraid to discuss anything for fear of a backlash. I am proud of how far we have come in civil rights for all, even though we have a long way to go. A case in point, people are not afraid to talk about the gender of candidates being an important area for bias. It is accepted. Obama may as well get used to the terrain. He can dish it out against Hillary, but he needs to quit crying foul if someone mentions race. Race has split this campaign already, and there is still a long way to go.

Posted by: georgia | Feb 28, 2008 4:37:40 PM

Everybody has the right to criticize Obama, especially Lanny Davis the for ever Clintons' supporter. But it has to be about substance i.e issues and not about race or other personal attacks. Obama has accomplished a lot, he is very well educated, qualified and has the right skills to bring people together -Unifier- and not a divider. He has a good reputation and is clean as Joe Biden said once.

Posted by: BKMC | Feb 28, 2008 4:23:29 PM

It's sad but it's true. Anyone who dares to even ask any question about Obama's lack of accomplishments, is labeled as a racist. He is running for the top office in this country, Why shouldn't he be closely scrutinzed ? If he is as honest and open as he claims to be, then he should have no problems answering hard questions.
He keeps saying that he is against the Iraq war, then why does he keep voting to fund the war that he is "opposed" to ?
Why doesn't he answer questions about his 17 year relationship with Syrian slumlord Rezko ?
If Obama is the nominee, then I will donate and campaign for Sen McCain.

Posted by: pleaseanswer | Feb 28, 2008 3:36:48 PM

A senior official from the Obama campaign contacted Michael Wilson, Canadian ambassador to the United States, and told him that the Senator was going to harshly criticize NAFTA during his race against Clinton in Ohio, but added: “Don’t worry… it’s just campaign rhetoric…Don’t take it seriously”.

Just words? Barack lies to Ohio about NAFTA

Posted by: Pat | Feb 28, 2008 2:07:16 PM

The media never (at least appears) to be unwilling to investigate nor report the rumor that the race card message came from the Obama's campaign, yet they carried the news about Obama's fury over a picture!

I now have to read more news from the International community because they are more balanced by attacking or praising both candidates instead of reading about the news from the US media.

Obama continues to fuel the division of the black vs. other race by threatening and pressuring other black fellows to support him under 'you don't want to stand in the way of a black man...'. What does the election have anything to do with color or gender? we are supposed to pick the best possible candidate to lead us in the next 4 years. The US media makes it more like this is a game of American Idol.

Posted by: Sylvie | Feb 28, 2008 2:00:32 PM

One of Britain’s most influential black figures today accused Barack Obama of cynically exploiting America’s racial divide and gave warning that he could prolong, rather than heal the rift.

Posted by: bryan | Feb 28, 2008 9:10:35 AM


Matt OHIO

Good try on the Pakistan answer. But it ain't working. Here's one reason why - From the mouth of HRC at a rally in Belpre OH-IO:

"We have a war against al Qaeda and the Taliban who attacked us. And the masterminds of that attack are still at large, and we're not winning,” Clinton told the packed auditorium in Belpre.

“We have to put our best resources in against those who attack the United States. No one can attack us with impunity. They have to be brought to justice. And that means wiping them out. Because until we do, we will remain at risk."

See this is exactly the type of stunt Romney would pull i.e., criticizing your opponent for a view you hold or held last week. And that's why so many people don't like him. So at the debate the other night that what she was doing, i.e., trying to scare your typical weak kneed dem into thinking BHO was gonna invade another country ending in "Stan." But BHO don't wanna invade another Stan. He, just like HRC and everyone else with a pulse, wants Justice to visit UBL. So your gal Hill pulled a Romney. And pullin a Romney is lame. That's all I'm saying.

Now if you wanna say, Ol Hills raised the issue to point out that she can out-nuance BHO, fine. Hills says bring UBL to justice and BHO says strike him. One phrasing, according to HRC, is apparently better than the other.

So you got yourself a new slogan of the day. Meet me in Ohio for a battle of Nuance!

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 28, 2008 9:05:21 AM

A Northridge Businessman pleads guilty to illegally funding Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer campaigns

LOS ANGELES (CNS) -- A Northridge businessman has pleaded guilty to funneling tens of thousands of dollars in illegal campaign contributions to Senators Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer.

Abdul Rehman Jinnah admitted reimbursing employees and others for contributions made in their names. There is a $2,000 cap on individual contributions to candidates.

Jinnah faces up to five years in federal prison and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines when he's sentenced on June 2nd. SOURCE: KNX News Radio
Posted

Posted by: femogiga | Feb 28, 2008 4:05:15 AM

Sad but true story in Ohio, about blacks who support Hillary are being harassed, ridicules, and threatened. Racism is alive and well.

Posted by: Jay | Feb 28, 2008 3:27:30 AM

You the media made this about race. You trying so hard not to see this man win. Simply ridiculous. Thats why hes winning. You own prejudice will get him in the White House simply because America is tired of media and other entities using whatever tactics to get your way. What makes you think that your self interests or candidates can do it any better than anyone else?

Posted by: CHFinkel | Feb 28, 2008 2:33:11 AM

navymom, the name thing is interesting, isn't it? how convenient! btw, the proper spelling for his name is baraq. somehow i don't think that would go over so well, as it makes clear that his name (and lineage) is actually arab. perhaps if his parents had spelled his name that way, he'd still be going by barry.

Posted by: so saddened | Feb 28, 2008 1:30:25 AM

to those who see through the artificial halo that's been planted over obama's head, bravo!

btw, jasoninpa, agree re national polls meaningless for the general election, but it is interesting that today mccain polled ahead of saint obama! this is while the media lovefest is still going on and the young people with their notoriously short attention spans haven't yet moved on to the next fad, so it is interesting.

Posted by: so saddened | Feb 28, 2008 1:22:42 AM

How come Barack Obama was known as "Barry" by all of his friends and family but when he went into politics he suddenly became "Barack"?

Posted by: navymom | Feb 28, 2008 1:15:33 AM

Well with Nader running now he will take some of those male Independence voters away from Obama now ....In which help McCain and he will still carry the conservative? The sad part all the Clinton voters going to be in play now? I don't see all of them going Obama way...

Hillary was the best shot espically with Nader running now, Obama going to lose the white male voters now, split the Latino and probably lose the women votes now.... Hey still get his 90% African America....

There going to be allot of new Rep voters this year now.... Obama already slipping behind McCain now.... McCain picking up all those Clinton voters now....

REP in office for another 4 years.... I be voting for REP first time in my life.... Not voting for the cult movement with no experience!!!!!

Posted by: John | Feb 28, 2008 1:14:47 AM

Pat,

I do hope you are succesful in pointing people in the correct direction. This guy has been fighting for the middle class for years! And he is perfect with his points. Race be damned! He's concerned with the country......Of the people, by the people and for the people.

One of the few journalist's who is willing to speak the unpopular truth about the "Sad State of Affiars" this coutry is heading into.

The USA is only 235 years old (give or take a couple as a girl would say) It has been said that our values will fail, our system is flawed, and our beliefs will crumble and blow away like dust in the wind......WELL, I don't accept that analogy. I will fight for evey god given right that those before me have died for. I covet their sacrifices and hold them in my heart.

These are the reasons I hold my hand over my heart during the "pledge". These are the reasons I applaude those who "salute". These are the reasons I find it comforting, to see our "leaders" wear the USA flag pin on their lapel.

History will judge if our beliefs are correct, that all MEN (and Women) are created equal, that WE have nothing to fear but fear itself, and not just some, but ALL "HAVE A DREAM".

Most of us are ordinary, not extrodinay. But, we must be mindful of of whom we chose to catipulte to "greatness".

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Feb 28, 2008 12:50:11 AM

Obama will never win the general election. He is just a passing fad. Americans will wake up in Nov and figure out that he lacks the qualifications, knowledge, and experience to by the president.

Posted by: terry | Feb 28, 2008 12:37:09 AM

sadstateofaffairs, i agree - clear that lewis was pressured big time.

pat, re dobbs poll - no can do. i've instituted a permanent and total boycott of cnn and msnbc/nbc on tv and online due to their complete lack of ethics and integrity. they may get their guy obama the nomination but they've lost me and everyone i know, and i imagine many many more. (and i'm getting closer to adding several others to the boycott list).

Posted by: so saddened | Feb 28, 2008 12:27:35 AM

As black candidates throughout America's history can no doubt testify. Um, that's sarcasm. The reason the "race card" argument has worked for Obama is precisely because he hasn't overused it. After all, he's fielded all sorts of attacks from all sorts of direction, and only invoked this defense a handful of times.

Posted by: Gail | Feb 28, 2008 12:24:45 AM

Do you believe that the press is giving preferential treatment to Senator Obama over Senator Clinton?

GO VOTE on Lou Dobbs Tonight’s website and vote

Posted by: pat | Feb 28, 2008 12:10:19 AM

Speaking of Race and the way it swings politics.........Isn't the Republician quandry priceless. They don't know which way to swing....to Win.

One day they encourage their herd to vote for Obama, the next day Hillary, all in an attempt to swing the vote to Senator McCain.

Talk about cicumventing democracy! Repulicans should not even have a voice in this......yet they do. Forget about race....what about cheating? By the republican owned media?

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Feb 28, 2008 12:09:22 AM

I don't agree with you on this issue. You can criticize someone without appearing to offend that individual. This is called constructive criticism. The Presidential election is very important, because it concerns the life of every American. Let's use a simple, but important part of our lives to draw a distinction. Let us assume a patient wants to undergo a life saving surgery. Now, this patient is given a choice of two surgeons to perform this operation. One is a "rookie" and one is "well known". Initially everyone goes to the "well known" surgeon, but as time goes by, the "well known" surgeon makes mistakes and the staff and patients leave for various reasons. As these patients and staff leave they try the "rookie" and guess what? He's a lot better than the "well known" doctor and everyone is impressed.
Well this is the story of Obama and Clinton. Obama never had an easy ride because from day one, the odds where stacked against him and he beat the odds. If race was a factor that favors people, why didn't Bill Richardson win states with a lot of Hispanic people? Why didn't John Edwards get a free ride based on his race? Also if race was a factor in this race then Obama's 11-0 straight wins wouldn't have materialized.

Posted by: Chan | Feb 28, 2008 12:07:04 AM

Why doesnt Obama take his wife and kids and spend some quality time in Godly Illinois.After all his help with the exolon nuclear problem and thier contaminated water,he and his family should enjoy the it there

Posted by: girlinvt | Feb 27, 2008 11:47:13 PM

HRC: the big business candidate for the "middle class"

Dear MP, (per your quote above)

Research "their" prosperity in Arkansas. Would you get into this ugly business called "politics" if it didn't involved what Barrack so eloquently said is a little bit of "vanity and ambition"?

No matter the candidate, it is about power, money, and legacy. The bigger question begs.....who really cares about our future? There are some candidates that DO care. Can you decipher the difference?

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Feb 27, 2008 11:42:45 PM

CommanderGuy

If Obama becomes President, he is talking about pulling troops in Iraq and sending them to Afghanistan/Pakistan to hunt OBL.

Hillary was saying, we have a good relation with Pakistan and Musharraf, so we should be careful in making such statements in public about bunker-busting them. Plain and simple Foreign Relations on Hillary's part.

Matt

Posted by: MattOhio | Feb 27, 2008 11:39:39 PM

Ronald Burkle, chairman of Yucaipa, has been a multi-million foundraiser and donor for Bill and Hillary Clinton and in Bill Clintons post-presidency, Burkle has emerged as a close friend and rainmaker for the Clintons - and the friendship has been prosperous for both.

HRC: the big business candidate for the "middle class"

Posted by: mp | Feb 27, 2008 11:31:34 PM

Canadian TV, (CTV) reports that, a top staff member for Obama's campaign telephoned Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the United States, and warned him that Obama would speak out against NAFTA, according to Canadian sources.

The staff member reassured Wilson that the criticisms would only be "campaign rhetoric", and should not be taken at face value.

Obama is such liar, rethoric is his game, he was lying when he said he would renegotiate NAFTA.

Posted by: pat | Feb 27, 2008 11:29:17 PM

Barack isn't afraid of his middle name like bigots are. Your attempts to use it as a weapon make you sound silly.

It's a name -- and a common one if any hav e a clue about other cultures. Oh but this is America...where too many of us choose to be blinded to other cultures.

That's been our downfall for decades here. Too silly to secure the borders, but want to lash out at stupid stuff like worrying about an American citizen's middle name which was given to him 46 years ago.

He'll make a fine President of the US.

My family is proud to have voted for him in the primaries and will vote for him in the GE from what things are looking like.

God bless and get over yourselves.

Posted by: Julie | Feb 27, 2008 11:16:43 PM

Matt OH--IO!!

Here is what my quote be:

"And getting to that, what's the deal with Hills phony bombing Pakistan thing? She seriously bashed BHO on wanting to blast bin laden.

I mean if a CinC gets that word that UBL is a particular cave at a particular hour, I would hope the next President would have the stones to obliterate it whether the cave is in Pakistan or some other Stan.

Do you know any other red blooded American who would turn the other cheek? Surely a President HRC, given such chance, would toast UBL. I believe she would. She is a "Fighter" after all.

I mean this is exactly the sort of thing people hate Mittens for. He attacked the other GOP candidates for holding the same views he held the week/month/year before. Pretty Lame comment by HRC and completely fake as well."

btw watchin BillMaher right now. I useta think Jack Kingston R- GA, was A-OK. But apparently, I wuz wrong. This guy is completely nuts. Things change and times move on. But maybe some people don't. The cuba stuff and the lapel pin stuff this guy spouts is just plain crazy.

I'm out 4 the day.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 27, 2008 10:53:19 PM

Speaking of Race,

Would anyone like to comment on the rumor of GWB's African American child?

Fact or Fiction??? Either way, I say "atta way Gorgie".

Maybe he's the guy to put this to rest.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Feb 27, 2008 10:15:27 PM

Why is it that Hillary's supporters can proudly state that they are voting for her, because she is a woman and they want to have the first woman President of the United States?

However, an African-American feels uncomfortable stating that they are voting for Barack, because he is Black and they want the first African-American as President of the United States?

Hmmm. I am so proud of my country.

Posted by: Jack | Feb 27, 2008 10:08:53 PM

Commander

Cmon humor me. I want to critique too.

Matt

Posted by: MattOhio | Feb 27, 2008 10:00:13 PM

MattOhio

No problemo on the Pakistan Q. It was on a different thread from earlier in the day ("Cleveland Rocks"). And it ain't a fun Q for a Dude and HRC fan to answer. I would wanna see the WestCoastMessenger answer it however.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 27, 2008 9:55:41 PM

SAM: Before you start rehashing the sexual conduct of the Clintons, look in the mirror. Look at the divorce rate in this country; look at the number of divorced mothers trying to raise their children alone or with little help; look at this country's preoccupation with sex, look at the scandals of many of our leaders (Congress, religious, entertainment, top leaders in any field); and look at all of those who have cheated or been cheated on and still stayed together to raise their families. Which ones and how many are fit to serve? We all live in glass houses. Let's not be hypocrits!

Posted by: georgia | Feb 27, 2008 9:51:30 PM

Okay. John Lewis has succumbed to the wishes of racists.If put before GOD and asked who does he feel is more qualified to be President....I think most of us know the answer. The segment of the black community that kicked the Clintons to the curb to vote for a "black" man who has done nothing for them have really hurt the racial relations in this Country.I suppose those that support Obama also think OJ is innocent.

Posted by: bob | Feb 27, 2008 9:51:03 PM

RealB58, Obama did not walk a tightrope. In fact the cameras were more than happy to pick up his dropped lines that were meant to send Hillary and a lot of females on the defensive. In fact the media was more than happy to help him ATTACK Hillary and constantly. Even now with the publics outcry about it they still defend him and they are being defensive, desperate and attacking Hillary for having a problem with them defending him. Come out into the light and face reality. It's okay to notice the facts.

Posted by: Imahillady | Feb 27, 2008 9:45:45 PM

FURTHERMORE: I fully understand John Lewis' decision to back Obama now. He, as well as other blacks, were supporting Hillary when South Carolina exploded. His state of Georgia (fueled with anger/pride from the black vote) voted overwhelmingly for Obama. He has been under extreme pressure to endorse now rather than waiting for the role of superdelegates at the Convention. Will the blacks in his state punish him the next time he runs? Some black minister in Atlanta is already planning to run against him. You talk about a racial divide! I see a schism regarding race that will probably last a good while. Many of us, and obviously the Clintons, are deeply hurt by this race. Blacks, as well as whites, will have some scars after this. Ask any of the blacks who support Hillary.

Posted by: georgia | Feb 27, 2008 9:42:56 PM

Hillary and Bill have covered theirselves in mud with their own actions, and inaction, over the years. They did not need Obama for that LOL. Get real he was the first President accused of rape and the first to be caught having sex in the Oval office and Hillary stayed with him. Want to talk mud?

Posted by: Sam | Feb 27, 2008 9:39:02 PM

why is John Lewis switching his vote?
R-A-C-E. John Lewis = RACIST

Bob.......

Fasten your seatbelt. This respectable statesman did not switch because he believes in Barrack. Just let the film roll my friend. Just look at the video...he is pained by this endorsement.

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Feb 27, 2008 9:39:01 PM

JEROME: You say Obama "has not flung much" at Hillary. That is debatable, but he has not needed to. The news networks have done it for him! He says one thing on the campaign trail, another in the debates, while he copies her three-month-old plans and dittos her in the debates, because it is obvious that he does not know much and has little experience.

We are in an outrageous contest! I do not intend to be a party to Bush-Lite. Everyone else can prop up DITTO MAN.

Posted by: georgia | Feb 27, 2008 9:31:06 PM

why is John Lewis switching his vote?
R-A-C-E. John Lewis = RACIST

Posted by: bob | Feb 27, 2008 9:30:41 PM

"It's very hard to criticize Sen. Obama without being accused of playing the race card."

Yeah, you know...that humnan race thing is really hard to fight.

Posted by: Tom J | Feb 27, 2008 9:24:38 PM

Lo and Behold! What many of us have been saying that the South Carolina "joke" of a primary is that Bill and Hillary Clinton did not play the race card. That would not have been a wise thing for them to do in the first place, and it would have been beneath their years of work for equality. Now, after all the media have skewered the Clintons at every turn, and after blacks have gone ballistic for Obama for a race card played by the Obama camp and the media,
"morning JOE" admits that Bill Clinton's words were twisted and falsely reported. Joe admits that Bill Clinton did not call Obama a fairytale; he called the media's lack of scrutiny of Obama's votes on Iraq a fairytale. All this time, the Clintons have been demonized again and again. Ted Kennedy told Bill Clinton to butt out. Why? Because he was already preening and propping up Obama to be the nominee. It is obvious that the northeastern senators from Massachusetts do not like southern men (Carter, Clinton, Gore). They think they are smarter and they want us to nominate their candidate. No, thank you. While the major networks (CNN, MSNBC, FOX) and others have had a field day bashing the Clintons and given Obama a free ride while promoting him, the rest of us are fed up. We saw this lie and other lies from the networks from the very beginning. It took morning Joe to admit that colossal error! So much for the free press!

Posted by: georgia | Feb 27, 2008 9:20:46 PM

So this is Reason Number 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 that she is losing.

Tip: The mirror does not lie.

Posted by: Jack | Feb 27, 2008 9:07:54 PM

whine whine whine

Posted by: John S | Feb 27, 2008 9:01:39 PM

Obama is a cheerleader we need a Leader

Posted by: pat | Feb 27, 2008 8:49:28 PM

CommanderGuy

Apologize for losing track. I stepped out of the crib for a few. But refresh my memory on your Pakistan question. I couldnt find it in the blogs here

Matt

Posted by: MattOhio | Feb 27, 2008 8:45:41 PM

This is the saddest of all. Our country has come a long way. And for AA's it has been an all too difficult road that has not yet reached fruition. For the first time in our history, we have an opportunity to make history with two candidates who represent people who have been fighting for decades for equality.

For me, the choice is easy, maybe even bias. We so often choose those whom we feel represent us. When these two candidates emerged, I really had to think and research the records of both. What we already know about Hillary, we know. She hasn't always been right or even forthright, but there is no question about her committment to our country. Unfortunatly, there is not yet enough known about Obama. And, the questions about who he is cannot be properly answered prior to the nomination. I personally do not appreciate those whom Obama has choosen to associate himself with, those he has choosen as his mentors and the radical ties they represent. It's my sincerest hope that this election does not undo all the progress that has been made for both women and AA's....but it's not looking good.

Obama is black and white, so who does he really represent? I'll close with this analogy.

Your on your lunch break at the mall. You see a smashing outfit that you know will look great on you. You buy it, take it home, cut off all the tags, throw away the reciept and on saturday night you put it on.....only to find that it looks terrible in all the wrong places. And now your stuck. Don't you wish you would have taken the time to make sure it fit properly?

Posted by: SadStateOfAffairs | Feb 27, 2008 8:37:43 PM

This is absolutely true. It is incredibly unfortunate since at the dawn of this entire campaign process, none of the candidates were hoping to play the race or gender card. Then came the Iowa caucuses and debates. The media first implied that the men were "ganging up" on Hillary during the debates. So the American viewers started to say it was true. Since then, we listened to every word trying to find masked and obvious versions of sexism.

Then, in New Hampshire, the same happened in terms of racist remarks. Later, in S.C., Pres. Clinton said that Obama's thoughts on the Iraq war were a fairy tale and the media spun it to the Clintons being racists and calling Obama's run a fairy tale--which was never said. The media has tried at every chance since then to make it look as if any comment is a racist comment.

Unfortunately, in today's society, sexist comments are still allowed. They should be avoided as much as racist remarks. But what shouldn't be avoided is the right and freedom of our press to actually question candidates. Instead, the media relentlessly questions and scrutinizes everything about Hillary, McCain, and Huckabee. However, this same level of scrutiny has not been applied to Obama.

As a Democrat, I want to be excited for both candidates. However, the media and the many "fans" have justly or unjustly biased me against Obama. I want to know that my President has been taking to task for every decision and promise made. Currently, this has not happened and that is why I am not sure he is best for the job.

Posted by: hopeful for Hill | Feb 27, 2008 8:11:20 PM

Well, I think it's tough on the media and Barack facing a woman; even a comment like "you're likable enough" can get you in trouble. With any minority candidate, whether through race or gender, every comment will be seen through that lens. I think it's unfair to say that you can't win unless you say something about Barack's race--why not hit him on policy? Why not win on your own merits? Why does this man even whine about not being able to compete against a black man? Sad, sad, sad. They just haven't had a very good campaign--and truthfully, Clinton has had much more time to accumulate dirt. Surprisingly, Obama hasn't flung much at her.

Posted by: Jerome | Feb 27, 2008 7:58:23 PM

ILovetheUSA - (I know you are a minority because of whats happening in America right now)Millions of Americans are looking past sex and race or names. But rather looking at what the candidates stand for- but I guess you wouldn't understand.Lets hope McCain can make it to the general elections. Remind me how old is he again?

Posted by: Unity | Feb 27, 2008 7:45:04 PM

Unity
You dont really know that I'm in the minority. It will be proven in November when President McClain is declared the winner.

Posted by: ILovetheUSA | Feb 27, 2008 7:40:17 PM

excellent link...very interesting..We the people are learning the Truth!!

Posted by: woffer | Feb 27, 2008 7:24:14 PM

Matteo - from O.H!....I.O!

You picking on poor Kofiharr now? He can defend himself and I ain't takin sides.

But you never answered the Pakistan question. Would hate to think you decided to cast some stones and then cut and run on me.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 27, 2008 7:19:11 PM

ILovetheUSA- I am glad people like you are now a minority in America.

Posted by: Unity | Feb 27, 2008 7:14:33 PM

Wil- Thanks for the clarrification and I applaud the fact that you have at least researched all three to make any decisions when you come to vote.
With all thats going on with the American elections the whole world is really curious, especially we in the UK.

Unfortunately having had a Prime Minister(Tony Blair) who has more or less given into every demand made by George Bush. The consequencies being lead into an illegal war and also feeling the effects of the recent housing crises in America.
We on this side have been badly affected by the Bush presidency. This time we really hope the Americans get it right.

Posted by: Kofiharr | Feb 27, 2008 7:10:42 PM

WestCoastLib

Good to hear from you again. Not to go off topic too much ...... but do you think Lannie or maybe you could fill us in on the various definition of the word "IS".

I've never got that one. Please help.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 27, 2008 7:10:03 PM

I still remember to this day in High school where I stood when that occured.

I will NEVER forget

Posted by: never forget 9/11 | Feb 27, 2008 7:07:03 PM

I still have memories about 911 I could never get behind a candidate with the name of Barack Hussein Obama. This is outrageous that this man will be the democrat nominee. Thank you all the fools who voted for him.

Posted by: ILovetheUSA | Feb 27, 2008 7:05:12 PM

I just saw the Cafferty bit...For 8 weeks now this CNN/disgruntled old man has hated hillary, I mean the guy picks and choses emails and gets paid for it and not once does he have a positive thing to say about Mccain, Bush or Hillary its always how hillary needs to go away.!

But I personally don't think thats bias atall...

Posted by: cafferty hearts obama | Feb 27, 2008 7:04:27 PM

Sorry, Kofiharr, I wasn't as clear as I should have been. I did my own research for each Hillary, Obama, and McCain. I do not believe any of them nor do I use their websites as my primary means of making decisions. Hope that's better for your info.

Posted by: Wil | Feb 27, 2008 7:03:25 PM

toby olive - while you are at it. Why don't you start a petition to change your American constitution so that Bush can run a third term cause all McCain is goint to do is continue from where Bush left off!!

Posted by: Kofiharr | Feb 27, 2008 7:01:38 PM

Seriously, folks, the unseen and unrealized victim in all of the political circus this election year has got to be the Civil Rights Movement.

I am a white, middle-aged professional woman, and I very much admire Dr. Martin Luther King and his work bringing together blacks and whites. This hateful, divisive political campaign year may further divide the Movement that Dr. King and others had worked so hard to achieve years ago: I am personally appalled by many, many things in this campaign, including the "bullying" that goes on by blacks toward black super-delegates, trying to get them to switch their vote from Hillary Clinton to obama "because they need to be true to their race", as well as the denouncement of what Bill Clinton said, after he, himself, has worked for years to further the black-cause. It is dispicable the way these people are being treated-----do you think that Bill Clinton actually said what he said in the way he said it, after all the years he has championed blacks? It is the way his words were twisted by the obama campaign that led to the backlash against Bill Clinton.

I, myself, now have to take a step back and analyze for myself if I will actively participate in Civil Rights Movement activities in the near future. Some hurtful and dastardly things have gone in in this political campaign, and I KNOW I am not the only one that feels this way.......

Posted by: God Bless America | Feb 27, 2008 6:59:37 PM

Wil - You said 'If' which means you obviously don't or didn't take any of your precious time to research the website. There is nothing on the site that praises or says how wonderful Hamas or al quaeda are.
Do some proper research when you have time.

Posted by: Kofiharr | Feb 27, 2008 6:58:39 PM

I'm with you Toby. I'm Native American and if anyone heard promises it is us. For me promises mean crap, I've heard them all before.

Posted by: Wil | Feb 27, 2008 6:57:26 PM

For some reason the Oblahma camp thinks all Hillary supporters are going to blindly go his way. NO will not happen for me I have voted democrat for 30 years this will be first time I vote for President McClain. And all black people dont blindly follow that fool (Oblahma).

Posted by: toby olive | Feb 27, 2008 6:54:54 PM

Happy2B - why would Obama supporters want to take your vote from you.
Its a democracy and you are entitled to vote for whoever you want!!
Only problem is its very evident that Obama is going to be the nominee so I guess for you its really two options
1.McCain
2.Nader

I suppose you can't please everyone!!

Posted by: Kofiharr | Feb 27, 2008 6:52:25 PM

Someone please tell CNN-Cafferty to calm down and realise that he will never be a journalist and that he is an arrogant misogynist at best. Doesnt he have women in his family?

Matt

Posted by: MattOhio | Feb 27, 2008 6:50:24 PM

Furthermore, Kofiharr, if I used your recommendations for Obama by checking his web site on where he stands, then I'd believe how wonderful Hamas, al quaeda and the rest of the nut jobs out there claim themselves to be.

Posted by: Wil | Feb 27, 2008 6:49:54 PM

That is so true! ESPECIALLY since the MSM wholly supports his racist card playing. They just edit a few videos and voilà!! Amazingly, Bill and Hill, who have, for their entire lives, fought for Civil Rights, have become RACISTS and of course, the AA community falls for it all.

As if MAGICALLY, these 2 people who have helped them, fought for them, supported them all their living days, overnight became racists? They just wanted/needed an excuse to jump on the Mr. Hope bandwagon and the MSM accommodated them by editing 2 videos from SC. It's all total crap. And the MOST hysterical thing I see in all this is the schmoozing and stroking of EGOS.......the MSM polls tell us that the HIGHLY EDUCATED, SMARTER people vote for Mr. Hope. Bwahahahahahahahaha! They are being played like a fiddle and are too stupid to know it. Smart? Highly Educated? I think not. If they're ignorant enough to believe the Clintons are racists, I suggest those so-called Highly Educated Mr. Hope