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Don't Mess with Texas!

February 19, 2008 10:34 AM

More evidence that Team Clinton was completely unprepared for the Texas contest?

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, herself last night told reporters, per ABC News' Eloise Harper:  “I’ve got people trying to understand it as we speak. Grown men are crying as we speak. I had no idea it was so bizarre.”

Does the Clinton camp think this is cute? These are really odd admissions for a campaign that claims experience and preparedness.

Former Rep. Martin Frost, D-Texas, writing in a column today says that "the delegate selection process in Texas is so complicated that it is more than theoretically possible that the candidate who wins the popular vote may not, in fact, win the most delegates."

He calls it a "Rube Goldberg-esque delegate selection process."

But then he explains it fairly well. And if I can get a hold of the basic idea, certainly Clinton campaign staffers should be able to get it.

The state will send 228 delegates to the Democratic National Convention, 126 of which will be elected from the state’s 31 state senatorial districts on primary day itself, March 4.

These 126 are distributed throughout state senate districts, which e between 2 and 8 delegates, depending on how Democrats did  in recent general elections. These delegates will be awarded proportionally to Obama or Clinton within that district.

There are also 67 delegates that will be assigned per a caucus that begins after the polls close and finishes during the state part convention in June. Voters have to vote in the primary to participate in the caucus.

There are also 35 superdelegates.

In any case, what seems most glaring is that Clinton has been unprepared for this. And I don't think that's particularly amusing, really. 

- jpt

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“I’ve got people trying to understand it as we speak. Grown men are crying as we speak. I had no idea it was so bizarre.”
How does this level of preparedness tally with her mantra of 'ready on day one'? I'm sure you could wake Obama up in the middle of the night and he could tell you how the Texas primaries work without blinking.

Posted by: Tom Patterson | Feb 26, 2008 7:31:04 AM

What a mess of a campaign. If this is Hilary ready to govern on her first day of office, the Democrats may as well keep Bush.

Posted by: Lore | Feb 26, 2008 12:18:07 AM

for someone ready on day one how come her campaign seems to be so incompetent when they knew they have been running for president in 2008 as soon as Kerry lost.

If your ready on day one you don't blow 100mm+ campaign funds by the end of the Iowa Caucuses

are you kidding?

Obama has consistently beat her when organization matters and that's pretty weak when you had the establishment on your side.

regardless of which candidate you supported on either the Republican or Democratic side.

Obama has run the best campaign hands down

and while his speeches has been about big themes and changes to the political process "Change"

his campaign has used 21st century technology to Campaign old school ground
game

Posted by: Michael Templer | Feb 21, 2008 3:30:28 PM

Did anyone hear about the sex scandal on Obama? Any truth to it!!

Posted by: forhillay | Feb 20, 2008 4:14:36 PM

Obama has not "moved Mountains".
He has added a few trees to them
so that we can't see the forest.
For those of you who dismiss the experience issue with BHO I would
assume that your intelligence level would allow you to fly with a pilot who has never stepped into a cockpit before.
I think the man is arrogant enough to believe that we are stupid enough to put him in office.

Posted by: Notoobama | Feb 20, 2008 12:15:08 PM

In my opinion this campaigning is
getting too far out of hand.
I wish all candidates would stick to the
issues that are of concerns to the
American people and be able to back up
their positions on these issues with
commonsense, facts and a plan to back
them up before they expect the voters to
be able to make a knowledgeable discision on who they should be voting
for in these primaries.
Please put things into prospective and
stop the Hollywooding tactics to win
votes will only prove to be disastorous
for the USA and the rest of the world
too!!!!!

Posted by: Joan Stothard | Feb 20, 2008 11:44:20 AM

Obama is a hustler and a Muslum. I don't
want either of these types in the White House. For those of you who do I say bon appetite. I Vote no on Nobama.

Posted by: Notoobama | Feb 20, 2008 11:29:47 AM

Don't Mess with Texas??????????

That's Plagiarism! HOW DARE YOU!!!!!

Posted by: Fred | Feb 19, 2008 6:03:59 PM

Tom J is correct, delegates are allocated by Texas Democratic Party rules to the Senatorial Districts on a one-Democrat-one-vote basis.
Kevin, the Republican gerrymandering in Texas (as elsewhere) is designed to pack every Democrat (white, African American, Hispanic, Gay, etc.) into as few districts as possible. This reduces the number of Democrats in the other districts and enables third-rate Republicans to win some elections. In Texas, the lines for the Senatorial Districts were drawn by the Republicans. The Democrats had no input on these lines. So who's the racist?

Posted by: Temple Houston | Feb 19, 2008 3:44:01 PM

I read yesterday that Clinton's real problem is that the Hispanic areas she was relying on went heavily Republican in the last general election, so they have few delegates assigned. The heavily AA areas were Democratic, so they have lots of delegates assigned.

The system may be a bit complicated, but it certainly makes sense to me. Why give more weight to the votes of a few Democrats in a heavily Republican district, than you give to the votes of a lot of Democrats in a heavily Democratic district? The delegate numbers are intended to achieve more of a 'one man one vote' balance.

Posted by: Tom J | Feb 19, 2008 2:30:38 PM

All the hyperbole aside, the language being used by the Clinton campaign is what I find most interesting. Wolfson and Singer were "stumped" by Chalian's question. Clinton herself has "people trying to understand it". It seems their strategy of the OH/TX firewall was conceived after the failure to secure the nom. on Super T, and wasn't thought through considering the open primary in TX, the delegate process tied to previous election turnout and the caucus hybrid. Sure they can win their demos, and perhaps the pop. vote, but possibly a nearly even split of delegates. That's not much of a firewall. It also makes Clinton's "meet me in TX" comment seem ill-advised. I think this is perhaps why they threw more resources into WI at the final hours.
Crazy as it may sound, it does seem like they got caught flat-footed on this. That may be a function of the Solis-Doyle and Henry departures. That said, however, these people are not usually "stumped" and loathe to admit if they were, so they may be playing the expectation lowering angle so as to make the "comeback kid" label finally viable.

Posted by: Kevin | Feb 19, 2008 12:57:54 PM

john doe - I thought the GOP gerymanderign was to decrease the Black vote in any one district!! I wish you libs would get your stories straight. You are blaming the obvious racism from Obama and Hilary on the GOP, funny, sorry you can not blame Republicans for your messed up caucus.

Keep voting for Obama, because then it will be an easy win for the Republicans in November!! Because Obama will have to answer tough questions, and not just say Hope!!

Posted by: spock | Feb 19, 2008 12:55:00 PM

Adam get a life, trying to rehash that same old story, watch "The hunting of the prsident" get informed.

Posted by: Jerry | Feb 19, 2008 12:54:09 PM

The eyes of Texas are on you, Hillary.

And, not liking what they see.

Just like we organized for the Katrina people, we'll organize for Obama.

Even if she did promise a $9.50 minimum wage at the Rally in El Paso.

BTW, her big supporter in Houston, Sheila Jackson Lee is in Pakistan watching those elections.

Posted by: JB | Feb 19, 2008 12:42:51 PM

Jake, you should also note that due to GOP gerrymandering, many of the Texas state senate districts with the most delegates are those districts with a high percentage of African-Americans that appear to be very favorable to Obama.

If Obama wins those districts big and wins the caucuses, he will win the most delegates in Texas, and the nomination race will be over.

You win the race by getting the most delegates, and there won't be enough delegates left for Hillary to win at that point.

Posted by: john doe | Feb 19, 2008 12:37:12 PM

s.b.- Who won Illinois ? Illinois is a major Democratic state. Or is Illinois another one of those insignificant states that Hillary likes to talk about.

The United Insignificant States of America. ;)

Posted by: PulSamsara | Feb 19, 2008 12:36:17 PM

Sounds like Clinton is now trying to paint Texas as another one of those states that 'don't really matter'...
because she lost in them.

Desperation.

Posted by: PulSamsara | Feb 19, 2008 12:31:50 PM

Google "Hilliary the movie"

Posted by: cba | Feb 19, 2008 12:11:17 PM

It's not enough that the candidate needs to be on top of all her policy positions, continue to think well on her feet, distill strategy from her campaign staff, we expect her and her opponent to understand the arcane rules of each state?

That's why they have campaign staff!

Posted by: Cathy | Feb 19, 2008 11:39:06 AM

Why do we have to have elections anyway? Her husband was president and now its her turn. This was supposed to be over on Super Tuesday. Its sad having to see her suffer through this.

Posted by: OMGBBQ | Feb 19, 2008 11:29:58 AM

To gain an understanding of the Clintons, read Kathleen Willie's book 'Target'.

Posted by: David Welsh | Feb 19, 2008 11:28:23 AM

If Clinton wins the popular vote in Texas she wins the nomination, regardless of a few delegates.

Nominating a man who can't win any major democratic state against the wishes of Florida and Michigan, is political suicide.

Winnning caucuses and pretty stolen speeches isn't enough to go up against the big boys. It just ain't

She wins Texas pop vote, she wins.

Posted by: s.b. | Feb 19, 2008 11:26:30 AM

I'd like to know why ABC and the rest of the MSM are not investigating Hillary's campaign manager, Maggie Williams, after a Secret Service agent SWORE UNDER OATH at the time that he saw Williams remove BOXES of personal files from the office of dead Clinton insider Vince Foster, shortly after Foster's alleged suicide....

Posted by: adam | Feb 19, 2008 11:25:52 AM

Those grown men just don't want to see us fall backwards.

Posted by: Just Some Guy | Feb 19, 2008 11:21:14 AM

Dude, what's your problem? What she's talking about is the VOTING process in Texas, which is two-pronged (just like Bevo). Good lord, if you don' think that her campaign doesn't understand the delegate distribution, then you're nuts.

Posted by: John | Feb 19, 2008 11:21:09 AM

So... Mrs. Clinton wants us to elect her because of her experience and ability in office yet claims to be caught flat-footed by the Texan delegate process, a state that she says she has deep ties with. That really makes me feel confident about her as the U.S. President. I wonder if she'd be unprepared for the Oval Office despite having seen her husband as President for eight years as well.

Rob H.

Posted by: Tangent | Feb 19, 2008 11:20:13 AM

Why all these Twists and Turns of the Hillary Campaign. It is too much now. Is anyone out there who is tired of them as I do?

Posted by: Peace | Feb 19, 2008 11:16:33 AM

Team Clinton should have thought about this before taunting Obama to "meet me in Texas."

Posted by: Vote4BO | Feb 19, 2008 11:15:17 AM

Obviously, the Clintons are trying to create an excuse for why they might lose Texas. The problem is that their excuse reflects bad on them. The fact that they're still willing to use it shows how desperate they are. Texas is a must-win for them.

Posted by: Mike | Feb 19, 2008 11:09:25 AM

That's okay, HRC doesn't have to understand our big bad old delegate selection process. She's just going to try to switch them all (super- and "pledged") to her side after Pennsylvania, anyway. . .

Posted by: kat | Feb 19, 2008 10:57:11 AM

Jake, as an Austin Hillary campaign worker, I can tell you the campaign understands the rules. We had training on the primary/caucus the very first day the campaign opened offices. I think Hillary was just referencing the arcane and bizarre ways of Texas more than referencing an inability to understand it.

Posted by: Jim | Feb 19, 2008 10:42:42 AM

Ready on day one! Yep...

Posted by: Penny | Feb 19, 2008 10:41:35 AM

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