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Hillary: Bring Me the Head of David Martin Shuster

February 09, 2008 8:17 PM

I don't think President Bush reacted this strongly -- at least publicly, and personally -- to Dan Rather's "Memo-Gate" scandal.

But apparently, MSNBC correspondent David Martin Shuster's apology and suspension aren't enough for Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y. She refers to them, in a letter to the president of NBC News, as insufficient.

Here's the text of her letter to NBC News president Steve Capus:

Dear Mr. Capus,

Thank you for your call yesterday.  I wanted to send you this note to convey the depth of my feeling about David Shuster's comments.

I know that I am a public figure, and that my daughter is playing a public role in my campaign.  I am accustomed to criticism, certainly from MSNBC.  I know that it goes with the territory.

However, I became Chelsea's mother long before I ran for any office, and I will always be a mom first and a public official second.

Nothing justifies the kind of debasing language that David Shuster used, and no temporary suspension or half-hearted apology is sufficient.

I would urge you to look at the pattern of behavior on your network that seems to repeatedly lead to this sort of degrading language.

There's a lot at stake for our country in this election.  Surely, you can do your jobs as journalists and commentators, and still keep the discourse civil and appropriate.

Sincerely,

Hillary Rodham Clinton

This prompts some questions to throw out here for discussion.

1) Would this set a bad precedent -- as in, should presidential candidates try to dictate to media organizations who should be their employees?

2) Would Shuster's firing fit the offense? Too harsh or just right?

3) Do you share Clinton's view that Shuster's apology was half-hearted? You can watch it HERE. What more could or should he have said?

4) I don't doubt that Clinton was offended, deeply. But how much of this public war against MSNBC and David Shuster is because of that outrage, and how much of it -- if any -- is politics, to galvanize female voters and get them to the polls?

- jpt

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First Clinton has all the right to get mad, NBC is totally wrong!

They openly support Obama, thus tilting the news for him, hey was not one of there reporters caught on tape saying such!

yes the word was not used in the meaning it normally is but used to describe marketing but again leave the daughter out of attacks,

Though if Chelsea is campaigning she should answer questions pertaining to the campaign by reporters and especially if they are 9 years old.

Now to show you hypocrisy, if the reporter said that about a republicans daughter, the reporter would be given a promotion!

Posted by: spock | Feb 11, 2008 1:42:56 PM

Has anyone seen the issue being discussed in the past Sunday's Meet the Press? None but Gwen I raised and discussed the David S issue very rationally. You should have seen the faces of Tim R and Chuck T!!! That spoke something about their professional journalism. Shame on you, NBC reporters.

Posted by: Jkan | Feb 11, 2008 10:51:14 AM

I'm a female and support the Obama campaign. I do agree with Senator Clinton the word was inappropriate. I do agree MSNBC has taken the necessary action in this case. However, for every action it's not necessary for a reaction. It really shows Hillary is in a desperate state at the moment. She is so focused on this non-sense while Obama campaign is kicking her butt. So, if I was her adviser, I would suggest to her --- to focus on the bigger picture (win the election). If Hillary loses the nominee, it is possible she will come back after MSNBC. So, be prepared for the Clintons, they will say anything and do anything!

Posted by: wahs2008 | Feb 10, 2008 11:47:31 PM

I dig that comment by Hillary. I am a mom and always a mom first. Hillary rocks! Kick some good ol' boy you know what. It's about time.

Posted by: c | Feb 10, 2008 9:59:17 PM

YOU DON"T GET IT!!!

Shuster need to be FIRED and that is my right to say and go after GE advertizers for the blantant sexism being promoted on MSNBC.

Keep it up...the media serves us and since women is over 50% and a prime target base of advertisers that take our money to pay for those over blown arrongant windbags on MESSNBC.

It's too bad you don't like how parents responds when they get mad and want this jerk FIRED and the rest put on notice that we are watching you and the next time this happen...you are gone too.

I don't give a rat azz about Shuster career...he's a sexist jerk and deserve what is coming to him.

My daughter means more to me and when she ask questions about why the men are so nasty, I say don't worry they won't be on TV anymore.

Posted by: Tired of all this crap | Feb 10, 2008 4:08:54 PM

I think it's interesting that the author choose to provide a link to the most abject apology while providing Clinton's comments to the indifferent "apology" that was originally provided. Another example of bias.

Check out the "apology" on Morning Joe, Shuster referred to it as a housekeeping chore.

Posted by: K | Feb 10, 2008 2:27:17 PM

1.) Interpretations aside, where in the letter did she ask for Shuster to be fired? There are tons of interpretations you can take out of the letter, requesting he be fired is one, taking him off the campaign trail is another, re-assignig him to another position until the election ends is another. Of course though, Tapp the Hack interprets the most unflattering for HRC.
2.) If he were fired it would be becasue Capus wanted to send a message that the other purveyors of misoginistic comments must stop and this was the straw that broke the camels back. Capus may figure that Spit Muchews is the biggest offender but the language used by Shuster and the fact that he is a hack reporter for a show that has almost run its course gives him a good out to send a message and posisbly get in the good graces of the next president.
3.) Of course it was half hearted. He should have apologized for being a pitiful journalist as well. There is absolutely nothing unseemly about the 30 year old daughter of the former president of the and possible future president to lobby Super Delegates on behalf of her mother. So, not only was the language he used inappropriate, the premise of his thought was utterly stupid and politcally naive. Maybe he shouldn't be covering elections. Hell, Romney's boys didn't go to war becasue they were trying to help diddy get elected. How did that work for them and their inheritance? Was it unseemly for them to go out and campaign on behalf of their dad? He really was pimping them out, "Just think of all the money we lose boys if daddy's investment doesn't pay off in 2008 and I have to do it all over again in 2008"? Maybe Shuster can go write that book.
4.) Everything every politician does is to galvanize their base and get them to the polls. Tap the Hack portrays Clinton as Count Calcula in a league of her own when John McCain is the biggest out-right bamboozler of the press corps and the voters in this race. Check out Matt Welch's McCain "The Myth of a Maverick" for many of McCain's passes from the media. Mavericks aside, HRC sent this letter in the hopes that they may tone down their anti-everything Clinton bias and possibly put a hold on the swoon they have for Obama. She may have trouble with the latter but lets hope she makes some headway on the former.

Posted by: SEERYER | Feb 10, 2008 12:01:39 PM

Shuster used a phrase that is in todays cultural lexicon. The fact that the Clinton's are going after the verbage and not the Facts is why it's just another Clinton political game.

Posted by: David | Feb 10, 2008 11:02:59 AM

I seem to remember a time just before the presidential race started in which Hillary's campaign was shutting the media out and giving very little access to her to such an extent that it appeared that she was just openly hostile to the media. Now she's asking the same media to bow to her demands?

Posted by: Jamie | Feb 10, 2008 11:02:55 AM

It's obvious to most observers that Hillary is upset because she feels your network has turned traitor on her after all the years you were defending the Liars from Arkansas. How dare you do that.

Posted by: JR | Feb 10, 2008 9:30:12 AM

I remember from years ago that salome had asked for the head of John the Baptist on a platter and of course it was delivered as requested. Is this what Hillary wants? God, how blood thirsty can a woman be.

Posted by: Ralph Garner | Feb 10, 2008 8:55:35 AM

"I don't think President Bush reacted this strongly -- at least publicly, and personally -- to Dan Rather's "Memo-Gate" scandal."

He didn't need to. His surrogates did it for him -- and Dan Rather, a star at CBS for decades, was forced out of his job in disgrace. I'd say Shuster is getting off easy

Posted by: Ray DeMeo | Feb 10, 2008 8:20:41 AM

Quite frankly, this did it for me! I used to love MSNBC but since the fiasco with Don Imus, Scarborought's put downs of Miika, allowing Chris Mathews biased commentaries and now this!..I'm done with it. I'm going to stick with C-span and Jim Lehrer Hr. for news..I can listen, interpret for myself rather than a pundit's biased interpreation.

Posted by: Sylvia | Feb 10, 2008 7:39:33 AM

Comment from Germany:

First: Here in Germany a reporter with such a rude comment most likely would have been thrown out and i think, that would be a good idea. With his comment he helped the Clintons quite much, as many would probably think "I help this poor little girl".

BUT (second): Chelsea Clinton is not a little child anymore.

At Feb. 8 there was a detailed report in the biggest and highly respected german newspaper "Sueddeutsche Zeitung" about the work of Chelsea Clinton (second page of the business section).

After studying in Stanford and Oxford she was employed at McKinsey in New York. She earned right at the beginning several hundred thousand Dollar per year. At the end of 2006 she changed to the HEDGE FUNDS "Avenue Capital" at Wall Street where she is CURRENTLY EMPLOYED. Her annual salery is estimated several hundred thousand Dollar.

Here in Germany someone like Chelsea is considered as a true lobbyist. Very interesting for germans, maybe also for US citizens and it seems that this is not commonly known.

In germany many of these hedge funds are responsible for the unnecassary asset stripping of many companies and the loss of thousands of jobs.

Posted by: German | Feb 10, 2008 5:35:57 AM

All of those people working for MSNBC should go back to school to learn some manners. they should learn to respect a young lady. The way they are conducting themselvs tells me that they are not educated to be on the news. Stop your name calling and look at yourself before you start talking about another person. You should look in the mirror first and throw the first stone if you are not a sinner.

Posted by: Mireya | Feb 10, 2008 4:53:28 AM

it either you dont have Children or you hate Hillary so much that you would even leave her on the accident scene as soon as you realeised it was her. because when something unfair and unjust is said about someone, even someone you dont love, fairness and justice are fundamentals of democracy. this is the same reason that racism is bad, the holocaust was bad etc but here we go again, everything said is just an opportunity to attack Hillary. one wonders????? you dont have to wait for an injustice to be done to you to react, thats why the laws are there, to prevent injustices to prevented before they occur, and when the do, so as to met necessary punishment for the offenders. Bill Clinton was crucified for using fairytale and Obama in the same sentence. Not that people didnt hear the whole sentence, the described it a racial, and Bill is still paying for it. Hmmmmmm, interesting. Its like its okay to attack Hillary, but not Obama. Guess what, if Obama wins the Democratic nomination then we have McCain come January 2009. It will just take the FBI raising the alert status one notch for Americans to have a reality check. and back to earth.

Posted by: Mwansa | Feb 10, 2008 4:25:44 AM

Well if you don't want Chelsea referered to as pimping for you. Than don't put her on the streets to pimp for you. Like wise Bill.

Posted by: John | Feb 10, 2008 4:22:15 AM

Shame on you MSNBC!! I grew up watching NBC news and now that I live in Italy I tune in on internet almost daily. Unfortunately for you, anyone with a little brain can see how biased you MSNBC has become and how you promote your pet candidates. Whatever happened to reporters telling the news instead of their interpretation of the news. I don't care what YOU think!! I want to know the facts and decide for myself. It's about time you come back to the roots of your profession.

Posted by: Gary | Feb 10, 2008 4:18:48 AM

I'm sure Mr. Shuster regrets making the comment, but he and the rest of the MSNBC crew (Chris Matthews especially)need to think before they speak. I usually tend to admire David Shuster's reporting, and certainly do not want to see him fired. As to Bush not responding strongly in public to "Rathergate", that was because he knew that Rather's story was factual.

Posted by: Ed | Feb 10, 2008 2:49:54 AM

"I don't think President Bush reacted this strongly -- at least publicly, and personally -- to Dan Rather's "Memo-Gate" scandal."

So all this time, you guys have been this cowed by choice?

I had always hoped you were badgered into it.

Posted by: Memekiller | Feb 10, 2008 2:38:40 AM

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