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Hillary Goes Negative on TV

February 13, 2008 11:19 AM

And so it begins…

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, has launched a negative TV ad against Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois.

As negative ads go, it's not particularly vicious. (You can watch it HERE.)

It slams Obama for not agreeing to a televised debate with Clinton in Wisconsin -- a perfectly factual hit.

But then the narrator says, "Maybe he'd prefer to give speeches than have to answer questions. Like why Hillary Clinton has the only health care plan that covers every American, and the only economic plan that freezes foreclosures."

What do you think?

- jpt

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I am a republican who has never voted for a democrat in presidential elections. I will vote for Obama though over McCain. I would not in a million years vote for Hilary though.

Posted by: DJ | Feb 17, 2008 10:38:40 PM

The Clintons had their chance, both did nothing to add value to the country. Looking back and wishing for things to be what they were pre-9-11 is fool-hardy. They had 8 years to offer Health Insurance. She has cried twice. They are both childish and immature and certainly not worthy. Only the poor don't get it, understandable. Women are finally waking up. Democrats are useless, really--look at Congress.

Posted by: Jack | Feb 16, 2008 11:07:26 PM

Amazing. Hillary cries about having a debate in a state in which she has completely neglected to campaign in. If she were so concerned about Wisconsin residents getting answers, she would be there to provide them with some. She's basically telling them that Texas and Ohio voters mean more.

Posted by: JD | Feb 15, 2008 7:57:22 PM

to Kimberly- I wouldn't worry about Sen. Clinton's ad not being negative enough. There seem to be no limit to the depths to which the Clinton's will stoop to secure the nomination. So the politics of personal destruction are just beginning- the worst is yet to come. That is the specific aspect of the of the Clinton's co-presidency I deplore the most. It's just so sad.

Posted by: davie | Feb 14, 2008 7:36:20 PM

Obama has authored more than one thousand bills during his tenure in the Senate, and seen literally hundreds of them transformed into law. The choice is not between substance or style - Obama has substance WITH style.

But more importantly, he dosen't lie to you.

Posted by: quill | Feb 14, 2008 5:50:33 PM

It's about time that ~someone~ begins taking this articulate but shallow lightweight to task. Do we want a President who makes eloquent speeches or one who ~gets something done~?

Posted by: LMcG | Feb 14, 2008 5:36:26 PM

I was thinkin about voting for Hillary until I saw this negative ad. I've been paying very careful attention to the news. Us Texan's see right through this hogwash.

The senator from NY is getting desperate folks. CNN's political team said a week ago when her campaign was running low on cash. Moreover,that she would probally want to schedule more debates. This is because she gets free airtime.

Let's face it Obama has already attended 18 debates and agreed to 2 more. Isn't that enough? Maybe not if you're strapped for cash.

Posted by: Pedro Ruiz | Feb 14, 2008 4:52:01 PM

Thank you for sharing Penny, but what needs to be straightened out is the Clinton's act. Their old-style politics of lying, spinning, twisting, changing the rules in mid-stream, and then laughing it off as 'the rough and tumble of politics' is over. What part of that do you not understand?

We are Americans first. We're voting for OUR government, not "my party, right or wrong". You want to make excuses for the Clintons' game-playing? Fine. We're not buying. Your time would be better spent emailing your candidate to either fight fair or get out of the ring.

And while you're at it, tell her to release not only her tax returns, but also her papers as First Lady and the Clinton Library donor list. This has NOTHING to do with Cheney - why are you dragging him into it? The only thing I can think of is that you've confused the role of First Lady with that of Vice President.

You said, "The delegates thing between Obama and Hillary will work itself out." WRONG. It will be worked out by the party sticking to the rules. If that means Hillary is toast, so be it. She's not bigger than the party.

Posted by: Tom J | Feb 14, 2008 4:43:20 PM

I think that people have a legitimate claim to request Hillary Clinton's tax returns. I support Hillary 100%. If I were her, I'd say, "fine, everyone can figure out I have more money than Obama. I'll disclose my tax returns if Cheney discloses his tax returns!" Now there's someone who is loaded and has made money with spilled blood of Americans and Irakis alike. The goal here folks is to beat the Republicans. They are the dangerous leaders in this country. Let's keep that straight. I get truly worried with folks who say things like "I'll vote for Obama in the presidential race if he's the Democratic candidate" THINK BIG! WAKE UP! Vote against the Republican machine! The delegates thing between Obama and Hillary will work itself out. VOTE for the DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE in NOVEMBER, DON'T BE SIDE TRACKED!!!

Posted by: Penny | Feb 14, 2008 2:02:04 PM

It's pretty bad when MSNBC has trumped FOX news for being the most "right wing" agenda driven cable station. Boycott MSNBC!!! It will be good entertainment when the start on Obama.

Posted by: PetefromMW | Feb 14, 2008 1:35:13 PM

Hillary is without hope and that is what we are hoping for. Hope that our servicemen and women will come home soon. Hope that Illegal immigration problems will be corrected. Hope that all Americans’ despite race or gender can server as commander and chief of this country. Hope for better schools. Hope to believe in the justice system of the U.S.A. Hope that tricks and superdelegates do not divide and concur the Democratic Party and thereby the United States. Hope that those we selected and elected to represent us will do the right thing and listen to us. Hope that are votes count for thing.

Posted by: Martha Ann, IN | Feb 14, 2008 10:58:41 AM

Of course he doesn't want to Debate her..He steals her positions and makes them his own! Then in front of his "followers" he distorts HER positions.

Follow the candidates: that's where the FACTS are.

Negative ad?
give me a break, it's time Hillary stands up for all the "negative" covering the press has thrown at her. Obama has been Much more negative about her and "where's the press" ????

GO HILLARY!!!!

Posted by: tory | Feb 14, 2008 9:51:31 AM

"As for the 'socialist' thing, really? The wealthy and educated, Obama's mainstay, are unlikely to back a socialist."

You are kidding? Right? Both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama are Socialists. While Sen. Obama has been careful to not blatantly advocate control over property, he certainly does advocate the redistribution of wealth. Sen. Clinton on the other hand not only advocates the redistribution of wealth but she has, in fact, called for the rejection of an ownership society.

Back in May, Sen. Clinton said that what the Bush administration touts as an "ownership society" really is an "on your own" society that has widened the gap between rich and poor. She also said: "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few and for the few, time to reject the idea of an 'on your own' society and to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity. I prefer a 'we're all in it together' society."

That is Socialism. In fact, Sen. Clinton's advocacy is Marxist and verges on communistic.

Posted by: James Danley | Feb 14, 2008 8:46:30 AM

The Clinton's are looking like bullies and whiners. If the Dems give us Obama, I will vote Democrat for the first time in 6 presidential elections. As for the 'socialist' thing, really? The wealthy and educated, Obama's mainstay, are unlikely to back a socialist. The Clinton machine will downshift and swerve to back Obama if he gets the nomination. She's a democrat first (then a mother, of course).

Posted by: Republican | Feb 14, 2008 8:02:40 AM

What I love about this election is that millions of Democrats are finally understanding why we Republicans all hate the Clintons.

They have no bottom; there is nothing they would not do to gain and keep power.

That includes the destruction of the Democratic Psrty or the the United States of America.

They are, indeed, trailer park trash.

Posted by: Shelly | Feb 14, 2008 4:45:35 AM

Raise your hand if you think Clinton's ad is a phony attack.

The Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel editorial board interviewed Obama on Wednesday,

It's all in sections by topic, so you don't have to sit through the whole thing. MUCH better than a debate of dueling sound-bites with introductions and applause taking up way too much time.

Now I ASSUME Clinton will find time before the primary to do the same thing? So why is yet another debate needed? Watch the two interviews and get much more indepth answers in the same amount of time. They can put it on TV if they want to. Clinton is SO old-style politics!

Posted by: Tom J | Feb 14, 2008 3:20:36 AM

Obama has agreed to debate in Ohio and Texas because those are states he is not doing well in. Many of you are right, it is much more informative for Obama to stand in front of the teleprompter and say "change! change! change!" rather than debate the issues. "Change" must be the code word for his disciples to fall into line chanting "Obama, Obama" I think we need an intervention!!

Posted by: Firefighter | Feb 14, 2008 1:17:25 AM

He doesn't want to debate. He only agreed to those few as he was pressured.
He said he would rather meet the voters.
Please, millions of voters can meet him doing a debate.
What excuses will he have not to debate McCain?
Hillary can handle this kind of pressure.

Posted by: Janetberns | Feb 14, 2008 1:05:50 AM

Hillary's treatment of Tim Russert is rude??? He is so pro-Obama and anti-Hillary he can hardly contain himself. His glee is so apparent when he can report an Obama success or a problem in the Hillary campaign. He is so prejudiced in this race that it is unseemly.

Posted by: Lori | Feb 14, 2008 12:25:21 AM

lets be real here. there is no reason for any candidate to be particularly specific, since these are just proposals and posturing. before any bills are sponsored and passed, there are compromises, committees, drafts and god knows what else before final legislation is proposed. and often it is very different than originally presented. if hillary thinks all her details are going to wow us little people, she should remember that what gets passed may look an awful lot different than what shes talking about now. so it really is better for senator obama to talk in broad strokes right now, because he understands the process much better. the clintons are experts at playing people. and dont forget, making policy and implementing it are very different things. so she can talk all the details she wants, but its really a useless exercise. remember, these are the same people who promised health care within 100 days of the inauguration in 1993. 15 years later, she has the nerve to say well have health care by the end of her second term. win in texas or ohio first, then maybe you can talk about a first term... ive spent the last month looking at every youtube, msnbc, cbs, and abc clip i could find, and ms clinton is a huckster and a fraud. she repeatedly talks out of both sides of her mouth, contradicts herself and mocks those who disagree with her. her treatment of tim russert is simply rude. she cannot tolerate dissent. she may think shes the smartest lady in the world, but i think she talks loud, says nothing, and is unfit to lead this country because she is unable to accept criticism, admit errors, or compromise. nobodys perfect, but her flaws are fatal. if were not careful, theyll be fatal to us as well. ill take my chances with senator obama any day. and yes, i am a democrat who once worked for bill and now am so disgusted by the two of them that i wish they would simply go away. theyre like roaches though;l they just wont go away.

Posted by: jake | Feb 13, 2008 11:41:09 PM

Who else besides Retzko ($168,000) and Oprah is an Obama backer and financer?

Posted by: Lori | Feb 13, 2008 11:30:55 PM

Is this an act of desperation or what? And for all of those Clinton folks out there...lets just get it over with and convince Hillary to release those tax records now and not after a nomination. Thats like test driving a car after you buy it. We're not that stupid. Who is paying you? Where did the 5 million come from?

Posted by: janus | Feb 13, 2008 11:07:54 PM

Another debate? Can someone send her a link to both their sites so that she can get the answers she is looking for?
If Hillary wants to reach the voters in Wisconsin she should leave Texas and head there. I think she should call Lifetime and set up debate time on "Snapped" because this fit throwing when she is not getting her way is crazy. Obama does not work for her campaign and should not have to schedule these Hillary's lifeline debates. I would rather see either candidate live than on ANOTHER debate, especially one that the press is pushing her to go negative.

Posted by: debbie | Feb 13, 2008 10:07:50 PM

And the way to see who knows more and has a better policy on issues is through a debate. The debates with 9 candidates, were more like tv ads. The Obamas have been making negative statements about Hillary that never get scrutinized.
And what about John Conyers' statement that he had many people tell him that they could never vote for a woman for president? Isn't that just aswrong as if a congresswoman publicly said that several people told her they could never vote for a black man? Why is mysogeny OK?

Posted by: Lori | Feb 13, 2008 9:30:56 PM

In 2000 and 2004 I watched the media railroad Al Gore and John Kerry out and George Bush in by reporting untruths and magnifying missteps of Gore and Kerry and by giving a free pass to Bush throughout the campaigns. The media treat elections as beauty contests where they strongly support the candidates they find more affable rather than those who will be the best leaders for our country.
I want the most knowledgeable person to make the most important decisions.

Posted by: Lori | Feb 13, 2008 9:22:11 PM

Go Hillary ! This shows strength on your part by calling Obama on his slippery ways. Shame on the media & press for not scrutinizing this person who would like to be leader of the greatest democracy on earth. The people of Wisconsin deserve to have a debate like the voters of any other state. There will be two names on the ballot and people have to decide between them. A debate is the most effective way to determine who actually has the knowledge & skills to be president. For those folks who like 'concerts', Oprah & plenty of rhetoric, Vote for Obama. The rest of us want a real president.

Posted by: dee | Feb 13, 2008 7:56:45 PM

Bring it on Hillary...it will help Obama supporters get people sitting on the fence fired up and ready to go. Bill did a real good job of that after New Hampshire and in South Carolina.

All you want in a debate is a chance for another personal attack anyway. What's left to say after 18 debates. Enough already.

Posted by: Negative Doesn't Work | Feb 13, 2008 7:31:58 PM

The debates are media events and almost completely unsubstantive. The campaign is about the people. Him giving speeches and talkign to the people in the communities where contests will be held is exactly what it is all about. Why is Hillary not campaigning in WI. or Hi? Why is she working delegate strategy instead of trying to appeal to the nation as a whole?

Posted by: louis | Feb 13, 2008 6:05:55 PM

Jake, You continually put Hillary for doing what is right in this election. In your eyes, and the rest of MSNBC, Obama is your candidate and does nothing wrong. WHY IS OBAMA AFRAID TO ACCEPT THE DEBATE IN MINN. AT MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY? He can only give speeches, and doesn't even give people a chance to ask questions. Hillary is right, this election is about who is best to lead OUR COUNTRY after the mess of BUSH. You and MSNBC also pushed BUSH on the American people, and look were we are now. I guest you have nothing better to do then to see if you can twist any news about Hillary. How about Obama and his wife bad mouthing Hillary and Bill at their rallies. I have heard this repeatedly from those who have attended them. Why don't you do the work of a real journalist and look & investigate both candidates EQUALLY, FAIRLY AND ACCURATELY. I will vote for Hillary or I won't vote at all for a President this year. And I have been voting Democratic for 48 years. Not if it is OBAMA, the man without substance.

Posted by: Barbara | Feb 13, 2008 5:36:22 PM

Tom J - Your comment/question: "I voted for Bill both times and until recently I liked both of them very much. Now I'm at the point I never want to see or hear either of them again. Does anyone else feel this way?"

Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. I loved Bill Clinton, and didn't have negative feelings about Hillary either. I now as you say can't stand to see or hear either of them. I don't know if I can even vote Democratic if she's our nominee even though I've never voted anything but Democratic. Now I can for the first time see my husband's point of view after 18 years. He can not stand Hillary because he said she will say and do anything to get elected but he gained respect for Bill Clinton after he left office. However, once he started watching the "win at all cost" campaigning he was doing, he said I'm right back where I was 8 years ago, I just have no respect for him or her again. My husband voted in the Maine Democratic caucuses with me Sunday for Obama. And he is one of those Independents you heare about that will vote for Obama and will NOT vote for Hillary - an he's originally from New York.

Posted by: DJ | Feb 13, 2008 4:43:34 PM

Reading some of the responses to Hillary finally taking off the kid gloves is refreshing. Obama is playing sneaky and hard, as well as,having playe unfair from the time he decided to run as the Democrat candidate. When that 1984 You Tube tape aired--he was fully behind it. Mind you--has any of Obama's groupies asked themselves--where was he for the past three years after his infamous speech at the DNC? Can anyone recall him being on the national airwaves sounding out against the war, the economy, jobs, illegal immigration, the poor and middle class, health care and things that are important to hard working Americans? The answer is a resounding NO! The media has given Sen Obama a free ride far to long. No one seems to want to touch him because they are afraid that blacks will get up in arms--this indeed is one of the biggest mistakes the media and his supporters have done to the free political process--and to end this, Al Sharpton does not speak for me as a AA--I can do that on my own and at the ballot box.

Posted by: Joy | Feb 13, 2008 4:38:40 PM

Hillary is in Texas - Obama is in Wisconsin meeting the voters face to face. If she wants the voters to hear from both of them so bad, where is she?

As far as when people say he doesn't talk specifics - check out his web site for all the issues and his plans. A lot of this is just rhetoric coming from the Clinton campaign that's being being repeated in the media until it becomes gospel. He also got critized when he was too detailed and now he gets critized for not being detailed enough.

In 2002 when everyone was on the "war" bandwagon, even the media, Obama took a very difficult stance that at the time was not considered the "right" political move. Obama put his political career on the line to oppose going to war in Iraq, and warned of “an occupation of undetermined length, with undetermined costs, and undetermined consequences." Now that foresight is not something 'experience' can get you - either have it or you don't.

One comment I heard once was when you sit down with Obama and even if you have differing views, when you leave the room, you may not have agreed, but you know that he understands where you're coming from and respects your differences. Why are people afraid to let our country move forward and not backwards - and to the woman that say "it's our turn," I would agree if it was just a different woman running. I'm a 49 year old white female originally from Georgia, now living in Maine - and I am voting for Obama because I feel we need him to help bring our country back together. We can't continue with the divisive politics of the past and present.

And as far as the experience argument, even though I don't buy that Hillary is that experienced, just remember George Bush was a two term Governor and Cheney was Secretary of Defense - and see what all that "experience" got us.

This comments on these web site are interesting as it's juat a place for people to vent it seems. It seems that most people who post on these have made their mind up and many are just being critical of whichever candidate they're against. It's too bad it's become so negative. But I have to admit, I'm obviously biased as I feel the negativity and anger came when the Clinton "win at all cost" machine started up again Obama. He's tried to keep this a positive campaign for the most part. And she and Bill have not.

Posted by: DJ | Feb 13, 2008 4:25:43 PM

Sorry Jake - didn't really answer your question.

It's not that she's being negative, it's that she's being so insufferably annoying.

I voted for Bill both times and until recently I liked both of them very much. Now I'm at the point I never want to see or hear either of them again. Does anyone else feel this way?

Posted by: Tom J | Feb 13, 2008 4:16:48 PM

So that's what the Clintons think voters want? More debates? Really? Wow. Really in touch, those Clintons.

Earth to Hillary: We have the internet. We can watch the videos and read the transcripts of each and every debate so far. You know what? You say the same stuff in all of them. Why would we want to watch a live replay?

And yes we DO understand the difference between the Clinton and Obama ideas of universal coverage. We just prefer Obama's. What part of that do you not get?

Posted by: Tom J | Feb 13, 2008 4:13:36 PM

alan g

G Checkout HUCK. He's gotta big heart and the Arkansas MoJo. See Huck's already knocked two phonies and a few fools out of the race. Wanna see him take out another one....not talking about McCain, because he's my favorite Democrat. But get Huck the votes that take care of that.

You see he's got the compassion that you need to go along with the conservatism. He's got the Broad Shoulders this war weary world needs.

Just get on board and let Huck Carry The Load.

Go HUCK Go.

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 13, 2008 4:06:55 PM

It's about time Hillary started to call Sen. Obama on his tactics. The media sure has been all too willing to turn a blind eye. We've had a total of one 1-on-1 debate. Hillary was crystal clear on substantive issues. Obama was not. Obama prefers to make speeches rather than talk about specific policies and implementation. Is this what our country has really become? We are so desperate to feel good about our fragile little egos that we now pick a president whose speeches make some feel good? I'd like my President to actually be able to tackle issues rather than going around making pretty speeches. When I want to hear an inspirational lecture, I'll go to church. I suspect, though, that he prefers to avoid debates so that he can continue to go around to his following, preaching like the messiah, while twisting Sen. Clinton's positions in ways that she isn't there to correct!

If this is what the Democratic Party has come to, count me out after 25+ years of being a loyal member. If I want to be part of the kind of vitriolic, hateful speech that Obama supporters have been spewing, I'll vote Republican AND protect my wallet at the same time. So much for the open and fair-minded party!

Posted by: alan g. | Feb 13, 2008 3:57:00 PM


spock

Brother you gotta stop comparing everyone you don't like to Stalin or some other notarious pinko commie.

You ever hear of Godwin's Law? Use the wikipedia and check it out. Read it but instead of that other bad dude put Stalin in his place. You see what I mean? Bad for your conservative street cred.

Now for the important news.....without Hills, we ain't gonna win in november....that is unless we all get aboard the HuckaTrain.

You ready to do the right thing, and back Huck? Even if it as penance for supporting Willard, we'll take it. Just no formal endorsement though.

Go HUCK Go


Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 13, 2008 3:55:08 PM

Hillary should not be endlessly lamenting over the fact that her speeches put fish to sleep. A few months ago, everyone was berating Obama for being too professorial and detailed on the issues. Now they say he's too uplifting and inspiring. A pox on the Clintons and their tactics!

Posted by: Carol Lancaster | Feb 13, 2008 3:38:52 PM

Negative AD – why? All it states is factual!

Wonderful Ad
Well positioned Ad

Obama does not like to talk specifics – he does not have the answers.

Obama read his speech well using a teleprompter – but has trouble with off the cuff responses.

Obama’s health care plan does not cover everyone –he admitted as much in the last debate.

Finally – Hillary comes to life.

Posted by: f.f. | Feb 13, 2008 3:32:32 PM

i think that campaign ad didn't make any sense. you say you are the better candidate but you put debating as your ad? that question your ability as a candidate you should have spoken on how you are going to fix the messed economy, or the war or something pertaining to the issues we are facing. girl get a grip! i think you are choosing the wrong campaign managers.

Posted by: sherry williams | Feb 13, 2008 3:31:29 PM

Why is the media so negative about Hillary ? are they deciding for the people? it is sad to see especially the women journalists who are so negative about Hillary. Shame on you women, you should be proud to have a strong woman -Hillary to be the first President of this great nation.I am also sad to see such hatred towards her in the comments above !

Posted by: chico | Feb 13, 2008 3:29:13 PM

Hillary it okay. life move on it awlays change. just like your age

Posted by: Fatimah | Feb 13, 2008 3:28:24 PM

Heres news for you, by the time either one of them god forbid take office, the foreclosure issue will be over, President Bush is resolving that. If they want to do something then why are they not doing their jobs as Senators. Plus there is not mush that can be done with the foreclosures, they bought homes that they could not afford becasue they thought something was for free just like you people pushing Socialized Universal Healthcare, don't you learn a lesson!!

Obama will not win in a one on one debate that is why he will not do it! He did not win the last one.

For all you blinded people, What has Obama done?? Please I have been waiting for an answer for a year!! No one can answer it, but yet you all say he is a great leader! Well what did he lead to tell you that! What does he say!! Please Answer or stop voting and supporting him!!

Do you want ot know what he really stands for well that is easy it is a far more reaching of Socialism then Stalin!! and that is no exaggeration!

Posted by: spock | Feb 13, 2008 3:20:24 PM

I think having a debate on 2-21 in OH and 2-26 in TX is more than enough. I'm pretty sick of the endless debates. If Hillary backers think more debates are necessary after the 19 we've already had, then we know why their candidate is losing.

Because they are dull people! ;-)

Posted by: Victor Shaw | Feb 13, 2008 3:09:55 PM

How many debates are enough? Surely, the informed voters of any state have been exposed to quite enough already. Anyone who is unaware of the candidates positions at this stage of the game need some real help.

Nah -- the contributors who believe this is just a last ditch effort by Clinton for free exposure are correct. Besides, the bell has rung. Clinton is done. Let us all return to the reruns until the new shows are up and ready.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | Feb 13, 2008 2:47:33 PM

Obama supporters keep insulting Senator Clinton and her supporters.
Let me ask all of you, How do plan to win the General Election if Obama is the nominee.
Do you think you can win without Clinton's supporters vote?

That shows how naive some of you are!

Posted by: Peter | Feb 13, 2008 2:01:46 PM

If this is the best Senator Clinton's campaign can come up with, than she needs to terminate all of them. She also needs to bow out gracefully. Their plans for healthcare and the mortgage problem are very similar. You want to know where they stand on issues than go to their website and read it for yourself. A debate will not change anything. She just wants FREE air time. Futhermore, Senator Obama has more legislative experience than Senator Clinton (If you don't understand the IL legislative process, read!). The Republicans have nothing on Obama that's why they circulated those lies about his religious beliefs. Now even Senator McCain is using his lines of hope..McCain is all of a sudden "fired up and ready". Give me a break! I'm looking forward to President Obama in the White House!

Posted by: OneAmerica | Feb 13, 2008 1:59:49 PM


It is a well known fact that Obama refused to debate Clinton, and I think
that is unfortunate that Obama will not debate his rival in Wisconsin. Debates are the only opportunity for voters all over the state to see the candidates side by side and compare their policy plans, their ability to answer questions on their feet, and how much they really know about the issues facing our nation. Rallies and get out the vote speeches do not inform voters about canidates. What a shame.

However, Senator Obama has shown in debates so far that he is not a skilled debater and not particularly savvy on policy. Perhaps this is why he is seeking to avoid comparisons with Senator Clinton in a debate. Certainly, he excels at pepping up crowds with inspirational rhetoric... as long as there isn't any focus on his actual plans and proposals.

Hopefully Wisconsin voters can find the information they need about the candidates before making their choice on February 19th. It is a very important choice to be made.

Posted by: Pat | Feb 13, 2008 1:56:18 PM

Hillary is just an opportunist, looking for free airtime,how shameless is that?!!

Posted by: Pat | Feb 13, 2008 1:54:13 PM

Hillary is just an opportunist, looking for free airtime,how shameless is that?!!

Posted by: Arnold | Feb 13, 2008 1:50:53 PM

I understand Obama's statement like - he would rather to be closer with his voters than debates w/Hillary -. I think he is smart for being closer to voters. I don't care about the debate until between Dem.and Rep. candidates later in the game. Hillary should have better campaign strategy / tactic than running negative ads. It will backfire.

Posted by: Katy | Feb 13, 2008 1:44:55 PM

"Obama's campaign has become a movement. Only a true leader has the capacity to do what he has done."

"Presidential leadership requires not a singular individual in the Oval Office, but an entire country mobilized behind an idea."

Sen Obama is, in deed, very charismatic and attractive. He has captured the hearts and minds of millions...millions who are totally enamored with his persona and charm. While some do follow him because of his ideology, many others are blinded by his charisma and charm and do not see him for the Socialist that he is. He promises massive government programs and handouts paid for through the redistribution of wealth.

There was once another young, attractive, and charismatic man who started a movement. And his followers were, likewise, enamored with his persona and charm. This young man also spoke of massive government programs. And he captured the hearts and minds of millions... in Germany, back in 1933.

I am NOT comparing Sen. Obama to that other young leader. I AM, HOWEVER, ISSUING A CAUTION. Don't be blinded by charisma and charm. Listen to the message! Understand the ramifications of the message. If you believe in the Socialist ideology, then Sen. Obama is your man.

Posted by: James Danley | Feb 13, 2008 1:15:01 PM

Again I say this is only their 2nd debate. I want to hear them talk about other issues besides health care. For e.g. how are they going to fix our prison systems, abstinence only education, their foreign policies and everyone is focused about getting out of Iraq and what about Afghanistan...why does no one ever talk about getting out of there? I congratulate Obama for his wins this past week and I fault Clinton's campaign for underestimating Obama but its not over til its over. Hillary has fought all her life for what she believes in and she still has alot of supporters who believe in her.
Hillary 08

Posted by: mona | Feb 13, 2008 1:13:56 PM

He has answered both of those questions already, ad nauseum.

For those of you who missed the 18 previous debates, several of which addressed both issues, here are the answers:

(1) Healthcare - He has a policy disagreement about using mandates. He prefers incentives that will make healthcare universally affordable and available. He does not like the idea of the government garnishing the wages of those who cannot afford, or do not choose to buy, healthcare, except when it comes to parents shouldering the burden of paying for their kids' healthcare. Hillary is OK with mandates and presumably the enforcement efforts associated. She says that mandates are necessary to ensure low costs.

(2) Freezing foreclosures - He wants to provide relief to those who live in their homes and face threat of foreclosure. He does not want to freeze foreclosures altogether, because that would also save all of the corporate real estate owners and speculators who - with full knowledge of the risks - made the investments anyway. Hillary wants to bail out everyone, even speculators who are suffering from "self-inflicted wounds."

The debate thing by Clinton is phony, and it flies directly in the face of her argument that about Obama being all talk and no substance. If she believes she has the better of these policy distinctions, then she should put up an ad explaining why. But she won't.

Posted by: Vote4BO | Feb 13, 2008 1:06:35 PM

Do any of you really want Oprah waving at you from the front steps of the White House? This is where the money and the media hype is being manufactured.

He does have momentum, or should we say M-OPRAH-MENTUM.

Posted by: Jill Mitchell | Feb 13, 2008 12:41:18 PM

Obama will be great President for the USA. One reason why is that with a black president the NAACP, Urban League and most affitmative action programs will be dealt a death blow. How can NAACP keep donations rolling in by preaching discrimination & oppression when the President is black? People will say to NAACP et al, "Hey, your time is over, don't give me this victimization and oppression song & dance - the Pres is black - parity has been achieveed - now move on!"

Posted by: Greg | Feb 13, 2008 12:40:00 PM

Hilary is desperate and feels isolated. Obama is getting momentum every day.

Americans do not want to see the same old administration and policies, and hungry for CHANGE. It is their RIGHT and they are voting for it!!

Negative Ad by Hilary only creates more damage than any good to her.

Posted by: Siva | Feb 13, 2008 12:38:48 PM

Seriously, it is a lame attack by Hillary.

Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama has got 18 debates before the tuesday primaries, and Barack's message and ideas throughout the 18 debates has never changed. So what's the point of having further debates when one can refer to the previous debates? So easy, unless Hillary wants to shift her positions here and there to counter Obama...now, wouldn't that remind you of a certain John Kerry? Hillary is just desperate for free stage time on television because of her lack of funds.

Women, please do not support Hillary because she's a woman. Yes, she's smart capable, no doubts about it. But certainly, America needs an upheaval in its politics, economic situation and social standings in the world, and having another Clinton in the oval office will certainly not do America any good. And Obama will certain be a better president in this sense rather than Hillary. And at the moment, the way Clinton is dealing with the difficulties of her campaign by BRAINLESSLY AND UNETHICALLY attacking Obama, does not impress upon me that she is a person able to handle setbacks or difficulties that comes to her way, and this shows she will not make a good president. Look at the way Obama deals with difficulties and setbacks...that's the mark of a GREAT LEADER!

Posted by: Ignatius | Feb 13, 2008 12:30:51 PM

Give it up Hillary. Your time has passed and not a jot will be remembered. And, if we're lucky, Billy will slither away into obscurity as well and give the country some fresh air to breath.

As much as anything, the voting is against Clinton and her non-existent experience, her slime techniques and her absolute refusal to engage in anything meaningful. I'll bet she now regrets treating the media so indifferently until she detected resentment. I bet she now regrets that fake laughter and those phony wide eyes. I'll be she now regrets hiding her tax returns and library records. And garnishing wages? Come on. What more could she expect than that which she has brought against herself.

Soon it will be up to Obama to prove his glass isn't empty. That will be an interesting effort.

Posted by: Surelock Homes | Feb 13, 2008 12:26:19 PM

Hillary's ad is weak and desperate. She's broke and needs airtime...and everyone knows it. Seems to me that if she wants to prove that Barack hasn't been throughly tested and Republicans will mop the floor with him, she'd come a little stronger than, he's a muslim, kindergarten reports, and he won't give me another 18 debates, to prove her point!

Posted by: Ayana | Feb 13, 2008 12:16:35 PM

Obama's campaign has become a movement. Only a true leader has the capacity to do what he has done. If you have ever gone to hear him speak....he does speak about the issues and he does outline exactly what he is going to do and how he is going to do it. "For too long, Americans have sought out and voted for "leaders" who do little more than provide technical fixes to complex solutions. Presidential leadership requires not a singular individual in the Oval Office, but an entire country mobilized behind an idea"

Posted by: james | Feb 13, 2008 12:14:09 PM

To what depths of calumny will Sen. Clinton's campaign stoop next? Perhaps asserting some of that Sen. Obama's biggest supporters are thespians? Or perhaps claiming that whenever Sen. Obama eats at a restaurant he masticates in public? I thought we'd put all of this negative campaigning behind us!

Posted by: chuck | Feb 13, 2008 12:13:24 PM

Not that long ago Obama said his party
should have lots of debates so the American people would know who they are voting for and now he is backing out.
He confirmed at the Kodak theater there are millions of Americans that will not be insured under his plan yet in his speeches he says every Single American will have health care. Sounds like the same old politics to me. Where is the change? Who are you Obama I want to know.

Posted by: Blue Collar | Feb 13, 2008 12:13:01 PM

The state of the economy is on everyone's mind. Why isn't Clinton making a big deal about that??? Is anyone aware of the devalued of the US dollar aboard? I read that some manufacturing companies oversea only accept EURO now. At this rate, US dollar won't be worth the paper it’s printed on. As they say, where dollars goes, so does the standing in the world.

Posted by: Kimberly | Feb 13, 2008 12:11:19 PM

It's a lame attack by Hillary. Front-runners never debate as often as challengers want, and that's what the situation is right now. The reason Obama is succeeding is because, although he has a light resume in the U.S. Senate, he can promote that he's the right man for this time, that he knows how to bring people together, and that he has the youth and energy to do well. He's not the first guy to have that as his theme. Hillary's problem is that she tried to sell her experience, but her resume in the Senate isn't much longer, she has some votes that don't sit well with a large part of the party, and she doesn't have any great successes on her Senate resume to turn to. And she wants to have it both ways as far as her First Lady years -- she got experience, but don't blame her for anything that went wrong. And some people still remember Hillarycare and the fact that she listened to King Hussein's wife's anti-Semitic rant, and instead of walking out or at least protesting, kissed her warmly -- then said she didn't realize any better after the fact. At this point, she has to bank on Texas and Ohio and the superdelegates, because Obama is going to win just about everywhere else (and Ohio may not be out of reach, either.)

Posted by: david | Feb 13, 2008 12:07:04 PM

the media has been very easy on Obama. we don't know nothing about him. Sure his closet have to have some dirty laundry. No body is perfect. we know everythin about Hillary.

Posted by: joshua | Feb 13, 2008 12:03:02 PM

well lets see how is it that newspapers and others hear the negativity of Hillary against Obama , but none hear what sly remarks he makes of hear,, oh please you know those who cast that first stone,, i wonder if you will ever truly get into heaven,, but as i know ask for forgiveness and it shall be given,,Did not Mrs Obama say she needs to clean her house , mm what did that mean,,??? was it pun about the Affair Bill had,, well,, i suppose no other man in office has had a wife stand beside him through thick and thin,,,, This is politics , and hes a grown man to rebuttle,, wow,,,,, two faced coin,, not going anywhere ??? but to the white house
and if people were voting for the issues please enlighten me,, on what he has plans to accomplish,,in office,,,

Posted by: vi | Feb 13, 2008 11:54:00 AM

It's easy to say Obama doesn't talk about policy but it's entirely untrue. I know where he stands on several issues because he has talked about them during the debates. As someone already said, Hillary is just trying to use him to get free airtime because she is struggling financially.

Posted by: mc | Feb 13, 2008 11:50:53 AM

While I am independent, I am, however, sick and tired of the media ganging up on Clinton. There is nothing negative about the ad. It is factually correct that Obama talks without substance and hates debates in which policies issues are likely to come up. If the media continues to serve as the surrogates of Obama and make him the nominee, GOP will tear him to shreds. Major question marks hang on his head, and Dems must lose if he wins the nomination.

Posted by: John White | Feb 13, 2008 11:41:37 AM

Pro-Obama media hype. There is nothing negative about this factual ad mentioning issues that Obama should debate instead of hiding behind his skin color. He is riding a wave of black racism based on skin color that the media is completely ignoring.

Posted by: crat3 | Feb 13, 2008 11:38:50 AM

My office is over 80% black. Very few can even name one policy Obama stand behind. It didn't matter, because he is black.

As to the negative ad, its too nice. She needs to ready attack if she wants to win Texas, Ohio and Penn.

Posted by: Kimberly | Feb 13, 2008 11:36:41 AM

A Wisconsin debate is hardly a hot topic in lieu of the numerous and very widely broadcasted debates. I hear Clinton being tail between the legs cautious about attacking Obama because of the devastating boomerang effect so much of her campaign has experienced to date.


Additionally she made a big mistake in her healthcare plan when she implied wage garnishment was part of her package deal. No amount of debate or lack thereof will wipe that statement off her record.

Posted by: SE Croft | Feb 13, 2008 11:35:59 AM

Good for her. It's nothing compared to what the Republicans would do to him.

Posted by: s.b. | Feb 13, 2008 11:34:26 AM