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In Interview, Hillary Attacks McCain on Economy

February 07, 2008 12:33 PM

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, called into ABC News today to chat about the stimulus package vote yesterday.

As you may know, President Bush, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, worked out a deal on a $160 billion stimulus package. Senate Democrats wanted to add about $40 billion in additional spending, including subsidies for energy costs, extending unemployment benefits, and tax credits for the coal industry.

But yesterday evening Senate Republicans prevented the bill, pushed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev, from substituting their bill for the one passed by the House. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was the only senator to miss the vote.

Clinton today told ABC News that McCain was wrong to miss the vote and wrong to oppose the substitute. "Senator McCain has said, he doesn't really know much about the economy," she said. "It's not been an issue of his concern in the past."

Clinton also said the Pelosi-Bush stimulus package "is not enough," and denied that her campaign was having financial difficulties, despite the fact that she loaned her campaign $5 million and her senior staffers are forgoing salaries.

Following is a slightly edited version of the transcript, you can listen to the audio of the interview HERE

Jake Tapper: Majority Leader Harry Reid is looking to do a different stimulus package. Tell me more about your vote and your thoughts on that.

Sen. Hillary Clinton: Well, the economy lost jobs last month and the mortgage lending crisis is leaving millions of Americans in danger of losing their homes and everyday expenses are on the rise. So the reality is we're heading toward a recession. And I feel a real sense of urgency to do something. Unfortunately the Republicans, including Senator McCain, don't share that view.

Now, you know Senator McCain is a friend, and I honor his service to the nation, but on this issue we have an honest and important disagreement. I believe we need to get help to the middle class as soon as we can.

Senator McCain failed to vote and I think that's wrong. Senator McCain seems to take the Bush approach to economic stimulus: help those who don't need it and ignore those who do. That's what he did yesterday by not supporting the stimulus plan. I think we need to do something to deliver solutions to the people who need it most. That's why I was the first candidate to come out with a detailed and comprehensive economic stimulus package. And it's why I left the campaign trail to go back to the Senate to vote on a proposal aimed at jump starting the economy.

But unfortunately the Republicans banded together to block the bill  because they oppose the Democrats' efforts to do a little extra for the elderly, for disabled veterans, and for people who have lost their jobs.  I think that's wrong and I think it's another reminder about why we need a president to deliver real solutions for our country. So what's clear is the best stimulus package would be a president who knows enough and cares enough  to solve our economic problems and that is the kind of president I intend to be.

JT: Now Senator McCain has said he would have voted, he wasn't there to vote on cloture, he would have voted against the bill. And he supports the one that was brokered by Speaker Pelosi and President Bush, but it seems to me there's a slight disconnect in the sense that Pelosi supports the bill that Harry Reid was trying to replace, no?

HC: Well eventually we are going to have to do exactly what the Democrats in the Senate and Republicans tried to do. We are going to have to replenish the unemployment compensation fund. We are going to have to make sure that people in special need like the elderly or our disabled veterans are taken care of. We will have to help more with income assistance for heating. And I believe that the Democrats were exactly right in adopting a proposal that I've been pushing to put some money into renewable energy jobs. It's not just enough to stop the bleeding. We've got to start creating jobs again for America. So on all those counts I think the Senate Democrats are doing what we need to do and what we will eventually have to do.

JT: So the House bill, the bill offered by the Democrats in the House doesn't do enough?

HC: Well the House bill is a good start but it is not enough.

JT: So now, you've missed bills too. I mean, Senator McCain has more absenteeism during his campaign, but you and Senator Obama and Senator Biden and others have missed a number of votes. Isn't that a requirement, or what you risk when you run for president?

HC: Well as you know, Jake, I've worked really, really hard and have by far the lowest percentage of missed votes in the Senate while campaigning. And some votes, it's unfortunate, you do have to miss them. But this was a vote that is so clearly directed at what we have to do. There's no disagreement for the need for a stimulus and it has to be timely, which is why we're working so hard to get it done.

And as Senator McCain has said, he doesn't really know much about the economy. It's not been an issue of his concern in the past. And I think this is an area where we really have to step up and address the needs of the American people. It's something I've been doing for years. I led the fight on unemployment compensation after 9/11 because I know if we don't start moving now, the recession will be longer and deeper than it should otherwise be.

JT: There's a lot in the news today that a lot of your senior staff are forgoing salaries. And also that you've loaned your campaign five million dollars from your own personal funds. Is this not an indication that your campaign is having some financial difficulties? I mean on its face it would see to be the case, no?

HC: No, not at all. We were outraised in January which we took steps immediately to address. And I think the results on Super Tuesday showed that we were more than competitive. Since Tuesday we’ve raised millions of dollars on the Internet. So we're going to be fine. And you know my staff is so dedicated that they stepped up and said we want to do our part. I did my part. But we're going to be in very good financial shape, people are rallying around. And I think by the end of the week we're going to be back on track.

JT: I heard somebody joke that it was effort by your staff to better understand the working poor. (Editor's note: this was a reference to a post in the liberal website DailyKos that said, "As we saw with Giuliani, when presidential candidates decide to get in touch with the working poor by surrounding themselves with unpaid staff, that can be a sign of a campaign's impending collapse.")

HC: Well that's not a joke. I mean we're working hard to run a campaign and elect a president who cares about the people of America again and I'm really grateful for the dedication that my staff is showing to that mission.

JT: A lot of people think that economic stimulus packages come too late to really have an impact on the economy because by the time Congress takes action, by the time people realize what's going on, the trends have already been taking place so long. You don’t feel that that's the case?

HC: I don't. If it's targeted and timely and temporary it can provide a boost to the economy. It has to have the right elements and obviously we have some but not all of what we need. But the sooner we start the better it will be.

JT: Okay, I know you're heading off to Washington State and good luck on the campaign trail.

HC: Thanks a lot. Bye bye.

-- jpt

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Time and again in debates and campaign speeches Hillary sets forth her plans and goals for America and tells how she will pay for it. Barak Hussein Obama gives an inspirational although empty speech...pausing often to collect his thoughts without providing substance or specifics. Hillary's passion to help our country shows in the delivery of her speechs as the information she provides about her plans/policies flows effortlessly off her tongue. She knows where she stands on the issues and is prepared to fight for the American people.

Posted by: Maf | Feb 9, 2008 9:54:18 AM

We don't need a president to tell us what we need or to tell us what to do! We need someone that'll point out instead, what needs to be done! ...Then we , together , can do it and then it shall be done. Team work like anywhere else. It's not the individual effort that'll make the difference, it's the effort of the individual and keeping their word as we are to keep ours to God and country, the little children shall not suffer again what their fathers' did, but shall inherit the earth and it will prosper. I hope they'll see the day. They are our future and they are depending on us to decide as mature adults without bias, prejudiced, opinion, attitude, criticism, sarcasm, skepticism, cynicism, and anything else that makes us know-it-alls; something you didn't need when you were growing up and something they don't need growing up now. You want to have fun slamming the system, get a job , pay taxes, raise a family, see the world, work in a homeless shelter, volunteer for something less selfish and see how the world really works! Let what you have as a talent be used for challenging the system instead of a habit they already know you for. I don't want to be set up again because the party system is too busy denying the IS and pocketing the money having us researched and rehabed. I want to be a free country again and safe and respected...How about a bumper sticker that'll start them remembering who and what they are: Politicians are Humanitarians too!

Posted by: lukout09 | Feb 9, 2008 1:32:27 AM

This woman is just plain evil

Posted by: AfBrown | Feb 8, 2008 10:44:20 PM

Hilary, Hilary, Hilary
Now your calling radio stations yourself, you must really be hurting financially. Your attempt to get as much free air time/press as possible isn't fooling anyone. McCain admitted that economics is not his strong suit and it appears that it's not yours either seeing you were not able to control campaign spending and had to loan your campaign $5,000,000 and according to the news your staff worked for a while, without pay. Great money managment skills. Now that Obama is ahead in the polls maybe its time to shed more tears or maybe Bill can tell more lies about him.

Posted by: Boo-Hoo | Feb 8, 2008 6:20:28 PM

Hillary scares me...I am voting for McCain.

Posted by: dilbert | Feb 8, 2008 5:47:03 PM

let me just say the obvious: if you truly care about your children and America, then you will vote for the Democratic nominee against john mccain, regardless of who they are.....I already know Senator Clinton would easily make the best President out of the remaining three, but senator obama is a better choice than mccain.....whilst Senator Clinton has the best plans and policies and is extremely capable to achieving them, senator obama has good plans and policies, but it will take him a lot longer to achieve them....on the other hand, mccain has the experience and qualifications to achieve his goals, but his goals are WRONG and they will end up harming America more than they ever help

Posted by: chris | Feb 8, 2008 12:52:26 PM

Hillary unhealth care like Canadas would be a disaster waiting for your vote to happen. Who is she going to steal from to pay for this Insurance scam on America?

That is what it is. The prices will go through the sealing and your health will go to hell.

Government mandates are the worst thing you want to do,it drives prices up and your care down. McCain is a laugh his treason after Vietnam should have put him in front of a fireing squad.

If they are CFR or Trilateral members do not vote for them. Read what they are!

Posted by: Dino | Feb 8, 2008 12:12:26 PM

Reviewing Hillary's methodical playing of the "Race card", and "The Perpetual Victim" against Obama; and, her recent commentary on Iraq; Pakistan; Energy Policy; the need for her to control the 14 Trillion $ American Economy from her White House Politburo (this from a woman who hasn't managed so much as a corner vegetable stand, or for that matter her own marriage; but, of course you could count Whitewater, and her tenure as "Madam" for Bill's White House Brothel); her Marxist statement in San Francisco: "We're going to have to take more from you, and give it to others for the common good."; Illegal Immigration; Taxes; Infanticide; Massive new Government spending; Multi million $ Senate earmarks for supporters of Hillary's Presidential campaign; Garnishing of your wages to fund her coveted Socialized medicine program; and, the Clinton's history of emasculating the military, verifies that this grievously flawed woman would be the female version of the Jimmy Carter debacle that gave us the Ayatollah Khomeini who ushered in rampant Islamic radicalism; block-long lines at our gasoline stations; a severely hollow military; and, a record Misery Index. Only much worse. Considering all of her recent gaffes, e.g. "I voted FOR IT (referring to the Bankruptcy Bill); but, I was glad to see that it didn't pass.", one has to wonder if excessive use of Botox has affected her mental stability. It's no wonder that her campaign staff is shielding her from reporter and audience unscripted questions. The prospect of Madam Hillary as President; in a word: TERRIFYING. Greg Neubeck

Posted by: gneubeck | Feb 8, 2008 11:21:39 AM

I was on the fence for quite a long time as a registered Democrat. Trying to determine who to vote for has been tough, and at times exasperating, due to biased press coverage of various events and statements made by the candidates taken out of context and reported as such. So responsible voters must do their homework and thoroughly study each candidate's entire record of private and public service, as well as in the case of both Sen HRC and Sen Obama, their votes and their stance on legislative issues.

I’ve finally made up my mind based upon my watching every debate - both Dem and GOP - and following the limited amount of unbiased news coverage I can get my hands upon. For me, because the two top candidates do not differ all that much on the issues, it finally comes down to the candidate’s displayed passion on the issues that matter most to me, and their ability to stand up against the sure to come Republican assault in November.

As such, I believe that Hillary Clinton truly believes passionately about what she speaks, about her ideas for solutions that matter to me - the economy, affordable health care for everyone, for ending the war in Iraq with responsibility toward getting our troops out safely, and without endangering all those over there, civilian and Iraquis, that have assisted us in that war. Whether it was the right war or not, we have to move beyond that - we’re there and have to deal with it now.

Maybe I'm missing something but I have not seen that same passion and fire from Senator Obama. He is a great orator, that’s true, and clearly a charismatic and intelligent man. But for me after considering the candidates' stands on issues and their records - flowery, “feel good” oration without an accompanying fire in the belly, and a strong desire to want to roll up the sleeves and do the hard work to make things happen, which is what Senator Clinton brings to my table, is no reason for me to jump onto the Obama wave of hope. Frankly, he does not inspire me on the things that matter to me. He does not inspire me to believe that he will be able to get things done. He does not inspire me to believe that he can withstand a full out Republican assault come November.

Hillary Clinton does, by her fire and fight and clear passion, as well as her record of reaching and working across the aisle with the Republicans. She has been vetted and tested over the years and is still standing strong. Many people would have withered under the pressures she's endured over the years. She is one tough cookie - like her or hate her, you cannot deny that part of her character is true. I sort of like that in my presidential candidates.

This is why I am standing with Senator Clinton when our turn comes to make our vote count here in Pennsylvania in April.

Posted by: Kris in PA | Feb 8, 2008 10:58:09 AM

Here's an interesting statistic for folks to mull over -- according to the CNN exit polls ( and my very basic calculatios) for all the primaries contested thus far (does not include caucuses where exit polling is not done), Senator Clinton beats Senator Obama in the category of 'who is most qualified to be commander in chief' by an average of 50.1% to 36.3%. She even took this category in many of the states where Senator Obama squeaked out a win in the popular vote.

YES WE CAN...WHAT?

Posted by: Kris in PA | Feb 8, 2008 10:47:40 AM

njh - Thank you for your intelligent and well-presented post. Glad to see some of us are actually comparing the candidates on the issues, really listening to what they are saying on the campaign trail and in debates, and deciding who is really the best for America at this time where our economy is tanking, the roles of the uninsured grows every day - and there's no denying that these two issues are intertwined. Those of us who CAN afford health insurance are frankly tired of paying a premium for those of us who also CAN afford health insurance but refuse to do so for whatever reason, and then end up getting their health care for "free" (note: free meaning the rest of us pay for it through higher insurance rates).

Think about it people. Senator Clinton's plan to get us to universal health care just makes more sense than Senator Obama's. Senator Obama's plan still leaves too many people uninsured - resulting in more of the status quo basically.

Posted by: Kris in PA | Feb 8, 2008 10:36:35 AM

Do the math: Huckabee does not have a chance, period.
Against Clinton or Obama, MCCAIN will win handsdown. Why? He is the stronger, more experianced, credible, leader we have to choose from. Differances aside, MCCAIN is the only one that will show the right change and make the appropriate *less tax* progress

Posted by: Jack Brady | Feb 8, 2008 10:27:31 AM

Terry, I don't think Obama can be evangilist even but I think he can be like Oprah, a motivational speaker. He is so great at it. People adores him by passing his arrogance, integrity, and inexperience. I just want to say...Wake Up Fellow Democrats and Vote for the really DEAL.

Hillary for president

Posted by: art | Feb 8, 2008 7:46:31 AM

Hillary Clinton probably thought she’d heard the last on her ties to Wal-Mart courtesy the Brian Ross Unit. Here's a brief detail that didn’t get fleshed out in the Good Morning America segment last week: While publicly distancing herself from the company, Clinton has involved two Wal-Mart lobbyists in her campaign.

Clinton named two Wal-Mart lobbyists to her Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Steering Committee last June. Ingrid Duran and Catherine Pino, the “D” and “P” of D & P Creative Strategies, are registered to lobby Senate offices on behalf of the Arkansas-based megaretailer.

While Clinton returned $5,000 she received from Wal-Mart’s political action committee in 2005, she has held on to roughly $20,000 she was given last year by Wal-Mart executives and lobbyists, as Brian noted in last week's piece. More than half of that money came from Duran, Pino, and a third Wal-Mart lobbyist, Tony Podesta, according to campaign finance records.

Posted by: Dave Peck | Feb 8, 2008 7:04:48 AM

I guess if you're interested enough to post a comment, you are more likely to be aggressive in your advocacy of one candidate or another, i.e. more willing to level personal attacks. I think, however, the vast majority of folks out there do not harbor ill will against one or the other. They are both good and decent people, and so, for that matter is John McCain. It is better, in my opinion, to frame things in the positive: I prefer Senator Obama because he represents a clear break from the past 20 years. It's time to move on.

Posted by: Time after time | Feb 8, 2008 2:49:31 AM

I notice the Hillary supporters are not good spellers.

Posted by: jack know | Feb 8, 2008 1:58:11 AM

Hillary Clinton is the best for AMERICA now. A candidate refusing a debate means he has nothing to offer just plain rhetoric and talk.

Go hillary! Hillary 2008

Posted by: Kikz | Feb 8, 2008 1:28:54 AM

Jowls McCheek aka Pecheekio : he tells you so many lies, each time he lies his LEFT cheek gets bigger. He will steer your party to the left because he’s a closet liberal, known as Captain Amnesty in Arizona, in California he’s known as Juan McCain He is known in the Senate as Mac the knife. He is buddies with all the liberals like Russ Feingold, Teddy Kennedy and Joe Loserman.I hope the Republicans all enjoy piling on board John McCain's "Double Cross Express" This guy is the worst of both worlds, conservative when it comes to helping poor people and the War in Iraq but liberal on amnesty.

Posted by: JL | Feb 8, 2008 12:58:17 AM

I am more than a little concerned about voting for a movement instead of a candidate. I am also really upset that Obama feigns ignurance of the 11 slum buildings owned by Rezco in his IL district. He calls his largest career fundraiser and close friend of 17 years..."this individual"

Actually I don't think Obama gave anything for the Rezco property deal where he was able to purchase his house that he could not otherwise afford.I am concerned hough that the slumlord Rezco was counting on collecting when Obama moved up the ladder.

I do not for a moment believe that Obama didn't notice the slums that Rezco owned. And even if he had no intention of repaying the "special interest" favors of Mr Reszco he was smart enough to know that there were strings.

Go Hillary!

Posted by: J Allen | Feb 8, 2008 12:32:26 AM

I mean no disrespect... but who is advising Hillary on what issues to attack McCain over.
Yesterday she gently attacked McCain for not voting on a measure that had no consequence -- as he new his fellow Republican's weren't going to let it pass.
Now I find out that neither she nor Obama voted on the amendments that actually passed today... while McCain voted "yea" on both measure.
This does not make Hillary look great. What she needs to do is focus on Obama.

Posted by: Brett | Feb 8, 2008 12:02:17 AM

It is nice to see that Hillary is trying to lookout for all Americans and has the guts to try and make change instead of talk about it. For instance, she tried to get health care for all Americans back in the 90's, but the insurance companies, special interest groups and others stopped this from happening. Instead of anyone else trying to pick up where Hillary left off, we still have millions of Americans without health care. It is easier to talk about failure than produce results. What is sad is so many Americans have since lost their lives due to lack of health care needs because no one else has had the guts to take action. Hillary has persistently stood up for those that cannot stand up for theirselves in the U.S. and abroad. I believe Hillary is the person to change America in the positive direction. She is knowledgeable, intelligent, persistent and has a work ethic second to none. Most important she has the "guts" to do the right thing for America.

Steve

Posted by: Steve | Feb 7, 2008 11:20:59 PM

The other big thing that chaps me about Obama (along with the generational hate drumbeat) is the drumbeat of "one America/end the partisan divisiveness". Beware the "liberal" candidate who calls for political reconciliation with the right wing, corporate and banking oligarchs, war profiteers, polluters, torturers, union busters and/or haters of all kinds. Beware the politician who spins the yarn that everybody is desparately yearning for an end to partisanship. It's not about partisanship, that's a calculated phony argument. It's about policies and strategies that have been systematically destroying our credibility, our environment, our military, our middle class, and most importantly our constitution. The extremely partisan people and groups that have brought us to this sad condition would like very much to be forgiven and embraced in a big hug of sweet unity, after which they will turn around and step on your neck and mine, again.

Posted by: Martin Gist | Feb 7, 2008 10:41:17 PM

Kelly--you assert that it is beyond comprehension that she actually thinks voters want universal health care. Perhaps it is beyond your comprehension, but that is what polls of actual voters show--a majority want universal health care. Not surprising, universal health care means that everyone has access to health care coverage. If you are so opposed to Hillary's plan for universal health care, perhaps you should do a little research on your man Obama. I commend a video of him advocating single-payer health care in 2003. It is available on You Tube--just google Obama and single payer health care and you'll get it. In contrast to Hillary's plan for universal health care via an array of mostly private sources, Obama said he was a proponent of government sponsored, single payer health care in this video and that we need--indicating that it was a core democratic value. His latest plan is not single payer, nor is Hillary's. Obama claims that "the reason people do not have health insurance is not because they don't want it, but because they cant afford it." DUH! That is precisely the point. The people who cant afford health insurance the ones who most need our help. His plan leaves them out for political expedience. That is not speaking hard truths, that my friends is political expediency. It is also immoral.

On mortgages, Hillary's plan for a temporary moratorium on foreclosures abd a freeze in rate increases for predatory adjustable rate mortgages has been decried by conservatives and the mortgage industry. Guess whose side Obama is on. What a surprise....

Posted by: njh | Feb 7, 2008 10:38:56 PM

As great and unbeatable as it would be to have a Clinton-Obama ticket, I and I think many Clinton supporters are growing very concerned about the tactics of the Obama campaign. I'm 58, and the most distasteful, ominous part of Obama's appeal is his campaign's constant drumbeat of generational war. The upshot of their message is: Race is not an issue! Gender is not an issue! But we reject the so-called older generation. Obama's ideas and proposals are no "younger" than Clinton's, and in virtually every way he is a conventional politician. It's all phony and calculated and I take it personally.

Posted by: Martin Gist | Feb 7, 2008 10:04:55 PM

This country desparately needs a woman president. We need a black president too, but we need a woman more. The best of both worlds would be a woman president with a younger, inspiring black vice president who could learn the ropes for eight years then step into the executive position. And oh yeah, John Edwards for attorney general, Bill Richardson for secretary of state, Madelaine Albright for U.N. ambassador. That's the ticket.

Posted by: Martin Gist | Feb 7, 2008 9:53:53 PM

NJH -- Hillary's scheme to put a 90 moratorium on bad mortgages is seen as a disasterous plan. And it's just beyond comprehension that she actually thinks voters want universal health care. That plan alone will sink her candidacy.


Posted by: Kelly | Feb 7, 2008 9:51:16 PM

I'm SICK of Obama courting the upper bourgeois class, and the media calling them more educated. It just points out that our system, unlike European ones, don't care about poor children. If the workers support Hillary, we should too. And they DO. They have shown time and time again that experience is the real teacher when it comes to WISDOM. I value transactional leaders like Hillary Clinton and Thomas Jefferson because they operate on such a simple premise: reward for applied effort. I will give you my effort, Hillary. You a truly a 21st century comrade.

You learned that it takes strength to bring peace, that it takes evolution to bring revolution. Your family's policies and ideals will be only be improved by your experiences that some so blindly consider as negative.

Please promise you'll get us on the way to a single payer system, because we all know you're our best chance. Ask Europe how they did it and tell us what they said.

Posted by: Tim Cooper | Feb 7, 2008 9:51:11 PM

About that sudden news and then the corrections about the state of finances in the Hillary campaign:

Some of us realize that she played her supporters for fools by playing on their sympathy to get their money. That is really despicable when you think of how that preys on her elderly supporters. But, this is also the Hillary campaign that recently 'rented' its supporter list to a company that used another such list to actually try to defraud the elderly.

But the Hillary camp also played the media for fools. In the words of one supporter, " HRC royaly played the media and they seem to stupid to have noticed. So who cares?" Nice integrity there, Hillary supporter.

And these folks expect the rest of us to dishonor our White House by allowing this candidate to 'win by cheating'. I think not.

Posted by: Donna | Feb 7, 2008 9:50:05 PM

If voters identify the economy as the issue in this election, McCain and Obama are in trouble. In contrast to Obama, who brings as little credibility and substance to a discussion on the economy as McCain, Hillary demonstrates a formidable mastery of the salient economic issues and offers smart, practical solutions. She has consistently had a strong lead with voters who identify the economy as their top issue. The reason is clear--while Obama sermonizes on hope and change, voters worrying about how they are going to pay the bills are more interested in Hillary's less soaring, more satisfying speeches detailing solutions for the credit and mortgage crises, health care and college affordability. People who are worried about the economy don't care about Obama's abstract promises. When times are tough, America's natural tendency to value hard work and a down- to- earth practical approach is most pronounced. In this election, substance not style, will prevail and so the general will be a contest between Clinton and McCain. She will take voters who rate the economy as their top issue hands down.

Posted by: njh | Feb 7, 2008 9:41:34 PM

My comment concerns the debates. A couple of observations that I think are worth noting. All I ever hear about from Obama camp is the more people hear him the more people like him and the more support he gets. Well that may be true when he is by himself on his own turf, but that must not be the case in a national audience with millions of people with Clinton debating him. If he was so charming he should be jumping at the chance to have as many debates as he could so he could win over 75% of the country. The truth is he is much better off not debating her because he is a great speaker on his own stump, but when forced to debate and answer real questions about real issues he just can not compete with Hillary's knowledge and experience. I do like Obama and have no problem with the dream ticket with him as the VP, but I would not give .01 to his campaign as he is all talk with little experience. That is not his fault just the facts. We gave Hillary a $100 yesterday just to show our support for her hard work. But the reality is that $100 is an investment because she is going to do more good things for this country than we can even imagine and we as a country are going to be so much richer as a nation because of what she will do for the U.S.A. On a separate note I think Obama camp is playing into Hillary's camps hands. The Clinton campaign would love more debates because they always win them, they also likely knew that obama would turn them down. Well the media has spun it to perfection in saying that she is in a position of weakness (financially or what ever) and that Obama can call some of the shots now. Great that's what we need. If the media thinks he is in the lead now and no longer an underdog that will help Hillary immensely. Now maybe the media will be forced to give up this underdog story line that has been fueling Obamas run.
I think it get s a lot harder from here for Obama to make additional in roads. He has a huge African American following and has a decent following among white males, but its hard to think that he can grow those 2 groups much higher. I do not see him scoring much at all with white females who make up the largest voting block of the democrats. He will continue to trail by a large margin for Asians and Hispanics. So I think going forward Hillary is in a much better position to gain on his followers the him on hers.

Go Hillary!

Posted by: Chad | Feb 7, 2008 9:28:51 PM

Is the president supposed to be a Wall
Street wizard. I am sure a good leader will appoint smart advisors that will give advice on the economy. Just like the President depends on Generals to run the everyday actions of the military.

Posted by: dirty harry | Feb 7, 2008 9:19:24 PM

At this point, the media is so very negative toward Hillary Clinton that I must view hers as the grassroots campaign despite any corporate funding sources. She is the candidate truly for the American people.

I will vote for John McCain, as will my husband, if Barack Hussein Obama is the Democratic candidate. Despite the Kansas caucus results, many Kansans and Missourians simply do not trust him. The more we get to know him and see his supporters up close and bussed in - the less we like him.

Posted by: Susan | Feb 7, 2008 8:48:48 PM

So many of these comments I agree with. He doesn't allow himself to be held accountable for anything. He brushes things aside and the lack of substance behind what he says shines through. He's candidacy is as thin as a playing card. Yes, he can stand at a podium and give good speeches without notes, but do people really think that's enough to be president? Yes, he gets people "fired up" but we need so much more than that. We aren't electing a cheer leader or Preacher of the United States, we are electing a president. This country needs so much more than what he's offering. I agree his passion is wonderful, and his message of unity is great, but we need a leader with ideas, substance, strength, and experience. We need someone that's going to make difficult decisions around the clock. He can't stand up in the situation room, and give a rousing speech. He's going to be worse than the current person sitting in the White House. Can anyone really picture him as Commander and Chief? Also, the notion that he will win over McCain is foolish. McCain will make him look like a 5 year old on that debate stage. McCain will be up by 22 points, soon after the Republican convention if Obama is the nominee. They are dying to find ways to use his full name Barrack Hussein Obama. Which the fact that the Clinton camp isn't using that, is a good thing. In my heart, I believe Hillary Clinton can and will be the best president we can ask for in this very difficult and dark time that we are having economically and abroad.

Posted by: Louis | Feb 7, 2008 8:31:21 PM

So many of these comments I agree with. He doesn't allow himself to be held accountable for anything. He brushes things aside and the lack of substance behind what he says shines through. He's candidacy is as thin as a playing card. Yes, he can stand at a podium and give good speeches without notes, but do people really think that's enough to be president? Yes, he gets people "fired up" but we need so much more than that. We aren't electing a cheer leader or Preacher of the United States, we are electing a president. This country needs so much more than what he's offering. I agree his passion is wonderful, and his message of unity is great, but we need a leader with ideas, substance, strength, and experience. We need someone that's going to make difficult decisions around the clock. He can't stand up in the situation room, and give a rousing speech. He's going to be worse than the current person sitting in the White House. Can anyone really picture him as Commander and Chief? Also, the notion that he will win over McCain is foolish. McCain will make him look like a 5 year old on that debate stage. McCain will be up by 22 points, soon after the Republican convention if Obama is the nominee. They are dying to find ways to use his full name Barrack Hussein Obama. Which the fact that the Clinton camp isn't using that, is a good thing. In my heart, I believe Hillary Clinton can and will be the best president we can ask for in this very difficult and dark time that we are having economically and abroad.

Posted by: Louis Spetrino | Feb 7, 2008 8:30:38 PM

It is no wonder why most Asians voted for Clinton. The group of Asians that i know do not know how to speak English, so the press could not influence their vote.
Most middle-age Asians recognize the character of a person just by looking at them. Most Americans know, too, but they have to show a lot outside before they can recognize. They can not see the hidden one (for example,in movies, in the beginning, everybody can infer who the villain is going to be at the end.
So far, i score the last four Presidents as almost 95% right.
Here is how i rate the current top candidates and their spouses for caring and compassion:
Obama=2. Spouse=-8.
McCain=4. Spouse=3.
Clinton=8 Spouse=6.


Posted by: Robert Le | Feb 7, 2008 7:59:19 PM

RESPONDING TO GREG JONES.

If Barak Hussein Obama wins the democratic nomination then Women, me included, will leave the democratic party in droves and VOTE REPUBLICAN. I will actively support John McCain for President.

I don't trust Hussein-Obama, he has no experience, he's arrogant and I will do what I can to make sure he does not win.

Posted by: Nan | Feb 7, 2008 7:54:23 PM

ATTENTION HILLARY SUPPORTERS....IMPORTANT NOTICE:

Due to the under-handed tactics and inner-party polarization of Hillary Clinton, millions of Obama supporters WILL NOT support her should she become the nominee. This, in part, is due to the fact that many feel that she is already trying to cheat her way to the nomination by claiming victory in Michigan and Florida. Hillary Clinton has totally alienated even her own party members. This is sad....but true. She will not win the Presidency without full Democratic support. Your continued support for Clinton is actually a vote for McCain. Sorry.....these are just the facts, which were expressed today via a national call-in radio show! The really sad thing is....we used to like the Clintons !

Posted by: Greg Jones | Feb 7, 2008 7:25:48 PM

Um...quite frankly the Obama Maniacs are starting to concern me. Betty for example.

Posted by: Stop the Mania | Feb 7, 2008 6:14:45 PM

Where did Hillary get five million to loan her campaign after 35 years of public service fighting for the poor? I would guess she used most of the eight million from her book deal. If she is such a good writer, why not release her whitehouse papers without Bill going through them first?

Hillary wants to help the poor by giving them "universal" health coverage. The word "universal" meaning, wage garnishment if you elect not to get it and the government deems you able to pay for it. Thanks but no thanks.

Hillary votes for the extra billions in the stimulus package, part of which they wanted to help people facing foreclosure. You bought a house, now you can't pay for it, and you want me to incur more of a national dept to help you pay for it? RENT!

Some of you like to quote the experience she has over Obama. He was a state senator in IL from 1996-2005, till he won a senate seat in Washington. That totals 12 years of ELECTED service. Hillary was elected in 2000, so that gives her 8 years of elected service. She never won one election before then, she just rode on Bill's wagon. What experience are you quoting? First lady of Arkansas, or First Lady of White House? She has more experience shaking hands than Obama, you got him there.

OBAMA 08

Posted by: Tired | Feb 7, 2008 6:07:57 PM

Get your head out of the sand and stop watching all cable news programs. The only 1/2 way objective actual news report is the PBS News Hour, except when they use Brooks and Shields for punditry. The punditry is so pathetic. If Barack will not come to the debate, Hillary should definitely debate all the remaining Republican candidates. The idea that Clinton loaned her campaign 5 mill as a stunt and held Jan contributions to just 13 mill as a stunt is ludicrous. Could we please have a few journalists who could just go out and get the news and report it instead of thinking it is there job to tell us how to analyze the news and what to think about the news. Jangles

Posted by: jangles | Feb 7, 2008 5:53:05 PM

Lylepink
I agree totally.
The Rep's are frothing at the mouth hoping for Obama,Because they will feel they have the best chance to beat him. IF he is the DEM NOM, they will Blast his lack of experience..and bring out every piece of dirty laundry they can, that they are svaing in their back pocket.
And then make people afraid to put him in office.

They have Nothing new they can throw at Hillary, and they know that in the end She would win hands down against ANY REP Nominee.

She has the Heart
She has the experience
She has the strength, and commitment
to ALL AMERICANS.
Black/White/Hispanic/Asian.
She is committed to improving the lives of our Elderly, and our Veterans,
and Mostly to those who have been overlooked by our Government.

Posted by: Teresa S | Feb 7, 2008 5:50:49 PM

HILLARY has the knowledge and intelligence to turn the economy around. She has the courage to call McCain out. HILLARY 2008!

Posted by: Jose | Feb 7, 2008 5:36:48 PM

Can someone tell what they mean when they say its time to take back the goverment? Did we not vote for all the people in congress? These are the people who we sent to work for us. So do we now go to Washington & toss them out? Then who in charge, you, your friend, your wife or husband? If Obama wins are all of you who voted for him going to Washington? Makes no sence to me.

Posted by: Don, Fl | Feb 7, 2008 5:35:35 PM

Hillary is the only Dem that can win The White House in 2008. Obama has a ZERO chance of winning, and that is why so many Repubs are supporting him in these early caucaus and primary states, and make no mistake, they will continue their all out effort to keep Hillary from getting the nomination.

Posted by: lylepink | Feb 7, 2008 5:31:55 PM

chad: you are right! The perfect job for Obama is being an evangelist (not president)for the US while visiting all countries around the world. He can help reshape america's image around the world.

Posted by: Terry | Feb 7, 2008 5:01:28 PM

Betty, I think the only thing it is time for is for Obama to get a sales job and step aside. The repeat message is crazy. Obama is not ready to be president he is ready to be a sales person or a inspirational speaker.

Posted by: chad b | Feb 7, 2008 4:58:37 PM

If Obama had said anything meaningful in the previous debates then I would agree that more debates are not needed. He talks very general and doesn't like to be held accountable for prior statements. It comes across wishy-washy. I want to know more about his positions and proposals...the next layer of detail on how he plans to change our country. I don't think that is too much to ask. He is certainly acting fearful of more debates. This is an opportunity for him to shine...and he is taking a cowardly path. He must be afraid. we need a president that is not afraid.

Posted by: Terry | Feb 7, 2008 4:57:12 PM

Chad....GET REAL! Obama is refusing to debate because Hillary make him look unprepared on every topic. Do any of you notice how many times he says "uh" when he asked a question? This guy is just an over blown rock star who will never make it through the Oval Office doors in a million years!

Posted by: Mary | Feb 7, 2008 4:21:29 PM

Obama's speech (October, 2002):

Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.

The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don't oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.

I don't oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.

I don't oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income - to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear - I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.

He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not - we will not - travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.

Lets turn the page

VOTE OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT!

Posted by: FOR THE LOVE OUR COUNTRY | Feb 7, 2008 4:12:54 PM

McCain just made his speech..

Its the Democrat time..Its Obama time'
Its time to end this war..It time to bring our troops HOME.

IT TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO TAKE BACK THEIR GOVERNMENT..ITS TIME FOR OBAMA

McCain said he will keep the troops in Iraq for a hundred years..A hundred years..even one year is a lifetime, but a hundred years..

That means McCain has no end in sight

Mccain will lose..The Republican will lose

And our troops will finally come HOME.

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 4:11:51 PM

Betty, the repeat posts make you look bad, we don't need to read your comments over and over.

The deal is Obama is all style and no substance. I dont see any credible reason for why people support him. His health care plan sucks and he doesnt get the Foreign Policy issue at all. You know, he has only been to London and Iraq (for a weekend). How is someone who has never traveled going to understand Foreign policy?

The more I look at him the more he looks like Bush.

This election is important, well tell me which election wasnt important? This is just salesmanship. Obama is only getting support from "Liberals" who make over 50K a year and have an irrational hatred for Hillary.

The people who tell you that Obama wil sail through a GE are just lying to you. Rezko is about to stand trial and his wife Michelle aint so squeeky clean. The republicans and media will do what they did to Hillary.

The worse case scenario would be losing the GE because of an Egomaniac community organizer.

Not debating Hillary is smart because he is horrible at it and sounds like Bush when answering a question. I think he has potential to be a great leader but he needs more experience.

Look how well the no experience thing worked out for us with Bush. A community leader is great but its not enough experience to be president!

Posted by: Stephen | Feb 7, 2008 4:09:09 PM

McCain just made his speech..

Its the Democrat time..Its Obama time'
Its time to end this war..It time to bring our troops HOME.

IT TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO TAKE BACK THEIR GOVERNMENT..ITS TIME FOR OBAMA

McCain said he will keep the troops in Iraq for a hundred years..

Mccain will lose..The Republican will lose

And our troops will finally come HOME.

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 4:08:48 PM

McCain just made his speech..

Its the Democrat time..Its Obama time'
Its time to end this war..It time to bring our troops HOME.

IT TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO TAKE BACK THEIR GOVERMENT..ITS TIME FOR OBAMA

McCain said he will keep the troops in Iraq for a hundred years..

Mccain will lose..The Republican will lose

And our troops will finally come HOME.

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 4:06:44 PM

Hillary's can budget just fine. But when you're being outspent by your competitor who is raking in millions from bundled money from spouses of lobbyists, friends of lobbyists, lawyers who lobby but aren't lobbyists, and their employers, then how do you suppose one does that? Hillary has raised more than 4 million dollars since the night of Super Tuesday, and most of it has been through grassroots supporters, not employees of lobbyists. If having lots of money is the only qualification for being President, then perhaps Bloomberg will do us all a favor and take the job.

Truth is the media has been utterly vicious and unfair to Hillary since this started. Non-partisan groups have noted the outrageous imbalance of positive vs. negative stories for Hillary in relation to Obama. And if you count the sheer number of photos used to illustrate the Dem primary, it's 80% Obama. Now, rememember.. this is the SAME media that brings us such important items like Miley Cyrus' body-double controversy, and "twins for J-Lo?". The media always chooses who will be the "popular" during these elections. Last few times they chose the rhinestone Cowboy cuz he was "so much fun!", and look how well that turned out. The media and obama and his supporters keep piling it on Hillary, and all it does is make her support stronger.

Posted by: Diana | Feb 7, 2008 4:03:55 PM

McCain just made his speech..

Its the Democrat time..Its Obama time'
Its time to end this war..It time to bring our troops HOME.

IT TIME FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO TAKE BACK THEIR GOVERMENT..ITS TIME FOR OBAMA

McCain said he will keep the troops in Iraq for a hundred years..

Mccain will lose..The Republican will lose

And our troops will finally come HOME.

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 3:59:44 PM

McCain just made his speech..

Its the Democrat time..Its Obama time'
Its time to end this war..It time to bring our troops.

McCain said he will keep the troops in Iraq for a hundred years..

Mccain will lose..The Republican will lose

And our troops will finally come HOME.

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 3:57:29 PM

Campaign funds shortage for Clinton? People are concerned about a shortage as an indication of being able to balance a budget? Get real. Look at the national debt. Look at the McCain funds. Look at the Romney funds.

And, by the way, what is the problem with so many guys that find it necessary to be abusive in their language towards Hillary? Men are voting for Obama to a large extent, in my opinion, because they can't handle the idea of a woman in charge--Good Ol' Boys still uniting to keep women in their place.

Posted by: Judi | Feb 7, 2008 3:53:05 PM

Also I do think Obama has Republicans supporters I mean who else do they have Mccain who is hated by their party,,come on..

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 3:50:51 PM

Lookup

I'm totally with you on that..If she can't budget herself now how in the world is she going to budget our country back from all this over spending create by the Republicans?

Posted by: betty | Feb 7, 2008 3:49:06 PM

Romney says: ( for which is clear fact) "Barack and Hillary have made their intentions clear regarding Iraq and the war on terror. They would retreat and declare defeat. And the consequence of that would be devastating. It would mean attacks on America, launched from safe havens that make Afghanistan under the Taliban look like childs’ play. About this, I have no doubt."