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In Interview, Hillary Attacks McCain on Economy
February 07, 2008 12:33 PM
Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, called into ABC News today to chat about the stimulus package vote yesterday.
As you may know, President Bush, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, worked out a deal on a $160 billion stimulus package. Senate Democrats wanted to add about $40 billion in additional spending, including subsidies for energy costs, extending unemployment benefits, and tax credits for the coal industry.
But yesterday evening Senate Republicans prevented the bill, pushed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev, from substituting their bill for the one passed by the House. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., was the only senator to miss the vote.
Clinton today told ABC News that McCain was wrong to miss the vote and wrong to oppose the substitute. "Senator McCain has said, he doesn't really know much about the economy," she said. "It's not been an issue of his concern in the past."
Clinton also said the Pelosi-Bush stimulus package "is not enough," and denied that her campaign was having financial difficulties, despite the fact that she loaned her campaign $5 million and her senior staffers are forgoing salaries.
Following is a slightly edited version of the transcript, you can listen to the audio of the interview HERE.
Jake Tapper: Majority Leader Harry Reid is looking to do a different stimulus package. Tell me more about your vote and your thoughts on that.
Sen. Hillary Clinton: Well, the economy lost jobs last month and the mortgage lending crisis is leaving millions of Americans in danger of losing their homes and everyday expenses are on the rise. So the reality is we're heading toward a recession. And I feel a real sense of urgency to do something. Unfortunately the Republicans, including Senator McCain, don't share that view.
Now, you know Senator McCain is a friend, and I honor his service to the nation, but on this issue we have an honest and important disagreement. I believe we need to get help to the middle class as soon as we can.
Senator McCain failed to vote and I think that's wrong. Senator McCain seems to take the Bush approach to economic stimulus: help those who don't need it and ignore those who do. That's what he did yesterday by not supporting the stimulus plan. I think we need to do something to deliver solutions to the people who need it most. That's why I was the first candidate to come out with a detailed and comprehensive economic stimulus package. And it's why I left the campaign trail to go back to the Senate to vote on a proposal aimed at jump starting the economy.
But unfortunately the Republicans banded together to block the bill because they oppose the Democrats' efforts to do a little extra for the elderly, for disabled veterans, and for people who have lost their jobs. I think that's wrong and I think it's another reminder about why we need a president to deliver real solutions for our country. So what's clear is the best stimulus package would be a president who knows enough and cares enough to solve our economic problems and that is the kind of president I intend to be.
JT: Now Senator McCain has said he would have voted, he wasn't there to vote on cloture, he would have voted against the bill. And he supports the one that was brokered by Speaker Pelosi and President Bush, but it seems to me there's a slight disconnect in the sense that Pelosi supports the bill that Harry Reid was trying to replace, no?
HC: Well eventually we are going to have to do exactly what the Democrats in the Senate and Republicans tried to do. We are going to have to replenish the unemployment compensation fund. We are going to have to make sure that people in special need like the elderly or our disabled veterans are taken care of. We will have to help more with income assistance for heating. And I believe that the Democrats were exactly right in adopting a proposal that I've been pushing to put some money into renewable energy jobs. It's not just enough to stop the bleeding. We've got to start creating jobs again for America. So on all those counts I think the Senate Democrats are doing what we need to do and what we will eventually have to do.
JT: So the House bill, the bill offered by the Democrats in the House doesn't do enough?
HC: Well the House bill is a good start but it is not enough.
JT: So now, you've missed bills too. I mean, Senator McCain has more absenteeism during his campaign, but you and Senator Obama and Senator Biden and others have missed a number of votes. Isn't that a requirement, or what you risk when you run for president?
HC: Well as you know, Jake, I've worked really, really hard and have by far the lowest percentage of missed votes in the Senate while campaigning. And some votes, it's unfortunate, you do have to miss them. But this was a vote that is so clearly directed at what we have to do. There's no disagreement for the need for a stimulus and it has to be timely, which is why we're working so hard to get it done.
And as Senator McCain has said, he doesn't really know much about the economy. It's not been an issue of his concern in the past. And I think this is an area where we really have to step up and address the needs of the American people. It's something I've been doing for years. I led the fight on unemployment compensation after 9/11 because I know if we don't start moving now, the recession will be longer and deeper than it should otherwise be.
JT: There's a lot in the news today that a lot of your senior staff are forgoing salaries. And also that you've loaned your campaign five million dollars from your own personal funds. Is this not an indication that your campaign is having some financial difficulties? I mean on its face it would see to be the case, no?
HC: No, not at all. We were outraised in January which we took steps immediately to address. And I think the results on Super Tuesday showed that we were more than competitive. Since Tuesday we’ve raised millions of dollars on the Internet. So we're going to be fine. And you know my staff is so dedicated that they stepped up and said we want to do our part. I did my part. But we're going to be in very good financial shape, people are rallying around. And I think by the end of the week we're going to be back on track.
JT: I heard somebody joke that it was effort by your staff to better understand the working poor. (Editor's note: this was a reference to a post in the liberal website DailyKos that said, "As we saw with Giuliani, when presidential candidates decide to get in touch with the working poor by surrounding themselves with unpaid staff, that can be a sign of a campaign's impending collapse.")
HC: Well that's not a joke. I mean we're working hard to run a campaign and elect a president who cares about the people of America again and I'm really grateful for the dedication that my staff is showing to that mission.
JT: A lot of people think that economic stimulus packages come too late to really have an impact on the economy because by the time Congress takes action, by the time people realize what's going on, the trends have already been taking place so long. You don’t feel that that's the case?
HC: I don't. If it's targeted and timely and temporary it can provide a boost to the economy. It has to have the right elements and obviously we have some but not all of what we need. But the sooner we start the better it will be.
JT: Okay, I know you're heading off to Washington State and good luck on the campaign trail.
HC: Thanks a lot. Bye bye.
-- jpt
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Time and again in debates and campaign speeches Hillary sets forth her plans and goals for America and tells how she will pay for it. Barak Hussein Obama gives an inspirational although empty speech...pausing often to collect his thoughts without providing substance or specifics. Hillary's passion to help our country shows in the delivery of her speechs as the information she provides about her plans/policies flows effortlessly off her tongue. She knows where she stands on the issues and is prepared to fight for the American people.
Posted by: Maf | Feb 9, 2008 9:54:18 AM
We don't need a president to tell us what we need or to tell us what to do! We need someone that'll point out instead, what needs to be done! ...Then we , together , can do it and then it shall be done. Team work like anywhere else. It's not the individual effort that'll make the difference, it's the effort of the individual and keeping their word as we are to keep ours to God and country, the little children shall not suffer again what their fathers' did, but shall inherit the earth and it will prosper. I hope they'll see the day. They are our future and they are depending on us to decide as mature adults without bias, prejudiced, opinion, attitude, criticism, sarcasm, skepticism, cynicism, and anything else that makes us know-it-alls; something you didn't need when you were growing up and something they don't need growing up now. You want to have fun slamming the system, get a job , pay taxes, raise a family, see the world, work in a homeless shelter, volunteer for something less selfish and see how the world really works! Let what you have as a talent be used for challenging the system instead of a habit they already know you for. I don't want to be set up again because the party system is too busy denying the IS and pocketing the money having us researched and rehabed. I want to be a free country again and safe and respected...How about a bumper sticker that'll start them remembering who and what they are: Politicians are Humanitarians too!
Posted by: lukout09 | Feb 9, 2008 1:32:27 AM
This woman is just plain evil
Posted by: AfBrown | Feb 8, 2008 10:44:20 PM
Hilary, Hilary, Hilary
Now your calling radio stations yourself, you must really be hurting financially. Your attempt to get as much free air time/press as possible isn't fooling anyone. McCain admitted that economics is not his strong suit and it appears that it's not yours either seeing you were not able to control campaign spending and had to loan your campaign $5,000,000 and according to the news your staff worked for a while, without pay. Great money managment skills. Now that Obama is ahead in the polls maybe its time to shed more tears or maybe Bill can tell more lies about him.
Posted by: Boo-Hoo | Feb 8, 2008 6:20:28 PM
Hillary scares me...I am voting for McCain.
Posted by: dilbert | Feb 8, 2008 5:47:03 PM
let me just say the obvious: if you truly care about your children and America, then you will vote for the Democratic nominee against john mccain, regardless of who they are.....I already know Senator Clinton would easily make the best President out of the remaining three, but senator obama is a better choice than mccain.....whilst Senator Clinton has the best plans and policies and is extremely capable to achieving them, senator obama has good plans and policies, but it will take him a lot longer to achieve them....on the other hand, mccain has the experience and qualifications to achieve his goals, but his goals are WRONG and they will end up harming America more than they ever help
Posted by: chris | Feb 8, 2008 12:52:26 PM
Hillary unhealth care like Canadas would be a disaster waiting for your vote to happen. Who is she going to steal from to pay for this Insurance scam on America?
That is what it is. The prices will go through the sealing and your health will go to hell.
Government mandates are the worst thing you want to do,it drives prices up and your care down. McCain is a laugh his treason after Vietnam should have put him in front of a fireing squad.
If they are CFR or Trilateral members do not vote for them. Read what they are!
Posted by: Dino | Feb 8, 2008 12:12:26 PM
Reviewing Hillary's methodical playing of the "Race card", and "The Perpetual Victim" against Obama; and, her recent commentary on Iraq; Pakistan; Energy Policy; the need for her to control the 14 Trillion $ American Economy from her White House Politburo (this from a woman who hasn't managed so much as a corner vegetable stand, or for that matter her own marriage; but, of course you could count Whitewater, and her tenure as "Madam" for Bill's White House Brothel); her Marxist statement in San Francisco: "We're going to have to take more from you, and give it to others for the common good."; Illegal Immigration; Taxes; Infanticide; Massive new Government spending; Multi million $ Senate earmarks for supporters of Hillary's Presidential campaign; Garnishing of your wages to fund her coveted Socialized medicine program; and, the Clinton's history of emasculating the military, verifies that this grievously flawed woman would be the female version of the Jimmy Carter debacle that gave us the Ayatollah Khomeini who ushered in rampant Islamic radicalism; block-long lines at our gasoline stations; a severely hollow military; and, a record Misery Index. Only much worse. Considering all of her recent gaffes, e.g. "I voted FOR IT (referring to the Bankruptcy Bill); but, I was glad to see that it didn't pass.", one has to wonder if excessive use of Botox has affected her mental stability. It's no wonder that her campaign staff is shielding her from reporter and audience unscripted questions. The prospect of Madam Hillary as President; in a word: TERRIFYING. Greg Neubeck
Posted by: gneubeck | Feb 8, 2008 11:21:39 AM
I was on the fence for quite a long time as a registered Democrat. Trying to determine who to vote for has been tough, and at times exasperating, due to biased press coverage of various events and statements made by the candidates taken out of context and reported as such. So responsible voters must do their homework and thoroughly study each candidate's entire record of private and public service, as well as in the case of both Sen HRC and Sen Obama, their votes and their stance on legislative issues.
I’ve finally made up my mind based upon my watching every debate - both Dem and GOP - and following the limited amount of unbiased news coverage I can get my hands upon. For me, because the two top candidates do not differ all that much on the issues, it finally comes down to the candidate’s displayed passion on the issues that matter most to me, and their ability to stand up against the sure to come Republican assault in November.
As such, I believe that Hillary Clinton truly believes passionately about what she speaks, about her ideas for solutions that matter to me - the economy, affordable health care for everyone, for ending the war in Iraq with responsibility toward getting our troops out safely, and without endangering all those over there, civilian and Iraquis, that have assisted us in that war. Whether it was the right war or not, we have to move beyond that - we’re there and have to deal with it now.
Maybe I'm missing something but I have not seen that same passion and fire from Senator Obama. He is a great orator, that’s true, and clearly a charismatic and intelligent man. But for me after considering the candidates' stands on issues and their records - flowery, “feel good” oration without an accompanying fire in the belly, and a strong desire to want to roll up the sleeves and do the hard work to make things happen, which is what Senator Clinton brings to my table, is no reason for me to jump onto the Obama wave of hope. Frankly, he does not inspire me on the things that matter to me. He does not inspire me to believe that he will be able to get things done. He does not inspire me to believe that he can withstand a full out Republican assault come November.
Hillary Clinton does, by her fire and fight and clear passion, as well as her record of reaching and working across the aisle with the Republicans. She has been vetted and tested over the years and is still standing strong. Many people would have withered under the pressures she's endured over the years. She is one tough cookie - like her or hate her, you cannot deny that part of her character is true. I sort of like that in my presidential candidates.
This is why I am standing with Senator Clinton when our turn comes to make our vote count here in Pennsylvania in April.
Posted by: Kris in PA | Feb 8, 2008 10:58:09 AM
Here's an interesting statistic for folks to mull over -- according to the CNN exit polls ( and my very basic calculatios) for all the primaries contested thus far (does not include caucuses where exit polling is not done), Senator Clinton beats Senator Obama in the category of 'who is most qualified to be commander in chief' by an average of 50.1% to 36.3%. She even took this category in many of the states where Senator Obama squeaked out a win in the popular vote.
YES WE CAN...WHAT?
Posted by: Kris in PA | Feb 8, 2008 10:47:40 AM
njh - Thank you for your intelligent and well-presented post. Glad to see some of us are actually comparing the candidates on the issues, really listening to what they are saying on the campaign trail and in debates, and deciding who is really the best for America at this time where our economy is tanking, the roles of the uninsured grows every day - and there's no denying that these two issues are intertwined. Those of us who CAN afford health insurance are frankly tired of paying a premium for those of us who also CAN afford health insurance but refuse to do so for whatever reason, and then end up getting their health care for "free" (note: free meaning the rest of us pay for it through higher insurance rates).
Think about it people. Senator Clinton's plan to get us to universal health care just makes more sense than Senator Obama's. Senator Obama's plan still leaves too many people uninsured - resulting in more of the status quo basically.
Posted by: Kris in PA | Feb 8, 2008 10:36:35 AM
Do the math: Huckabee does not have a chance, period.
Against Clinton or Obama, MCCAIN will win handsdown. Why? He is the stronger, more experianced, credible, leader we have to choose from. Differances aside, MCCAIN is the only one that will show the right change and make the appropriate *less tax* progress
Posted by: Jack Brady | Feb 8, 2008 10:27:31 AM
Terry, I don't think Obama can be evangilist even but I think he can be like Oprah, a motivational speaker. He is so great at it. People adores him by passing his arrogance, integrity, and inexperience. I just want to say...Wake Up Fellow Democrats and Vote for the really DEAL.
Hillary for president
Posted by: art | Feb 8, 2008 7:46:31 AM
Hillary Clinton probably thought she’d heard the last on her ties to Wal-Mart courtesy the Brian Ross Unit. Here's a brief detail that didn’t get fleshed out in the Good Morning America segment last week: While publicly distancing herself from the company, Clinton has involved two Wal-Mart lobbyists in her campaign.
Clinton named two Wal-Mart lobbyists to her Lesbian, Gay and Bisexual Steering Committee last June. Ingrid Duran and Catherine Pino, the “D” and “P” of D & P Creative Strategies, are registered to lobby Senate offices on behalf of the Arkansas-based megaretailer.
While Clinton returned $5,000 she received from Wal-Mart’s political action committee in 2005, she has held on to roughly $20,000 she was given last year by Wal-Mart executives and lobbyists, as Brian noted in last week's piece. More than half of that money came from Duran, Pino, and a third Wal-Mart lobbyist, Tony Podesta, according to campaign finance records.
Posted by: Dave Peck | Feb 8, 2008 7:04:48 AM
I guess if you're interested enough to post a comment, you are more likely to be aggressive in your advocacy of one candidate or another, i.e. more willing to level personal attacks. I think, however, the vast majority of folks out there do not harbor ill will against one or the other. They are both good and decent people, and so, for that matter is John McCain. It is better, in my opinion, to frame things in the positive: I prefer Senator Obama because he represents a clear break from the past 20 years. It's time to move on.
Posted by: Time after time | Feb 8, 2008 2:49:31 AM
I notice the Hillary supporters are not good spellers.
Posted by: jack know | Feb 8, 2008 1:58:11 AM
Hillary Clinton is the best for AMERICA now. A candidate refusing a debate means he has nothing to offer just plain rhetoric and talk.
Go hillary! Hillary 2008
Posted by: Kikz | Feb 8, 2008 1:28:54 AM
Jowls McCheek aka Pecheekio : he tells you so many lies, each time he lies his LEFT cheek gets bigger. He will steer your party to the left because he’s a closet liberal, known as Captain Amnesty in Arizona, in California he’s known as Juan McCain He is known in the Senate as Mac the knife. He is buddies with all the liberals like Russ Feingold, Teddy Kennedy and Joe Loserman.I hope the Republicans all enjoy piling on board John McCain's "Double Cross Express" This guy is the worst of both worlds, conservative when it comes to helping poor people and the War in Iraq but liberal on amnesty.
Posted by: JL | Feb 8, 2008 12:58:17 AM
I am more than a little concerned about voting for a movement instead of a candidate. I am also really upset that Obama feigns ignurance of the 11 slum buildings owned by Rezco in his IL district. He calls his largest career fundraiser and close friend of 17 years..."this individual"
Actually I don't think Obama gave anything for the Rezco property deal where he was able to purchase his house that he could not otherwise afford.I am concerned hough that the slumlord Rezco was counting on collecting when Obama moved up the ladder.
I do not for a moment believe that Obama didn't notice the slums that Rezco owned. And even if he had no intention of repaying the "special interest" favors of Mr Reszco he was smart enough to know that there were strings.
Go Hillary!
Posted by: J Allen | Feb 8, 2008 12:32:26 AM
I mean no disrespect... but who is advising Hillary on what issues to attack McCain over.
Yesterday she gently attacked McCain for not voting on a measure that had no consequence -- as he new his fellow Republican's weren't going to let it pass.
Now I find out that neither she nor Obama voted on the amendments that actually passed today... while McCain voted "yea" on both measure.
This does not make Hillary look great. What she needs to do is focus on Obama.
Posted by: Brett | Feb 8, 2008 12:02:17 AM
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