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Is This What a Winning Campaign Looks Like?

February 11, 2008 2:07 PM

At a General Motors plant earlier today, I had occasion to ask Senator Clinton about concerns some of her supporters have voiced following some not-so-great news including the resignation of her campaign manager Patti Solis Doyle.

Following is the full transcript of our exchange.

JT: You lost five primaries and caucuses over the weekend, you're not talking confidently about the next five, you had to lend your campaign five million dollars of your own money, and your campaign manager just stepped down. What do you say to supporters who say this is not what a winning campaign looks like?

HC: Well to the contrary, I think it exactly is. We had a great night on Super Tuesday. I'm still ahead in the popular vote and in delegates. Were all are each picking up delegates.

I commend Senator Obama on his recent victories. But I believe if you look at the states that are upcoming I am very confident. I am absolutely looking to Ohio and Texas. Because we know that those are states they represent the broad electorate in this country. They represent the kind of voters that are going to have to be convinced and won over in the general election so this is an ongoing contest and I feel very good about it.

In fact you know when people learned that I had contributed 5 million dollars to my campaign it spurred an enormous response. We have raised over ten million dollars in the last five, six days. People want to invest in this campaign. That's what I see across the country. And I'm very grateful for that because a lot of people dug deep down to be part of my campaign -- and another 100,000 new contributors on average below a hundred dollars -- so we feel very good about where we are.

And this was Patti's decision. I have the greatest respect and affection for her she is going to remain as a senior advisor to me. But this has already been a long campaign and it takes quite a toll on people who are directly involved particularly those who have families. So I am grateful for the enormously successful job she has done and I'm going to continue to rely on her and we have a great group of people who are in place that are working hard as we speak to make sure we do well in these upcoming primaries.

Only a fool would say it's over for Sen. Clinton -- she is, in fact, ready to do well in the primaries in three weeks in Ohio and Texas, as well as Pennsylvania. She's a strong fighter, she has a tenacious campaign.

But things haven't been going so hot.

What do you think?

- jpt

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After this weekend is added in, Clinton is behind in pledged delegates, total delegates, states won, and the popular vote. Others who have done the math suggest she needs to carry PA, OH, and TX by >10% to get more pledged delegates assuming Obama takes the Potomac primaries by >5% and WI and HI are close. She is not done by any means, but she needs a spark in VA, WI, or the one of the two debates between OH and TX. BTW, delegates awared in NE+WA+LA+VI+ME+VA+MD+DC > OH+TX.

Posted by: John M. | Feb 11, 2008 7:04:18 PM

I agree with you Matt, but do you really think Obama can do all he says he can? I don't think so.

Posted by: Deriko | Feb 11, 2008 6:39:11 PM

HILLARY IS THE REAL DEAL. She is a strong fighter. Obama is one of those YOUNG, and NEW faces. He only says what people WANT to hear. None of the candidates for this election don't have any skeletons in their closets.

Posted by: Deriko | Feb 11, 2008 6:35:34 PM

HILLARY IS UNSTOP-ABLE! She is a strong fighter yes, and Obama is one of those YOUNG, and NEW faces. He only says what people WANT to hear. None of the candidates for this election don't have any skeletons in their closets.

Posted by: Deriko | Feb 11, 2008 6:32:39 PM

To all those people out there that think Obama has no real substance I say again go to his site. You all probably don't remember that when this whole thing began he was giving detailed speeches on his issues. People didn't like that so he changed. Also, have you listened to his last several speeches. He clearly outlines what he intends to do with the economy, education and the environment to name a few.

I do think that it is just wrong and plain jaded to call all Obama supporters a cult. I also agree that calling all Hillary supporters idiots is wrong as well. Personally, I am excited about Obama because of those position papers on his site and what he talks about (the issues) in his speeches. He does represent change in the way he brings post-partisan language to the biggest political stage. He is also of the rare political ilk that can admit when they are wrong, learn from the mistakes and grow stronger and better for future decisions. Obama is an intensely enlightened gentleman who will bring a needed tidal shift to the current trends in presidential politics. Have you noticed that he has run a well oiled machine of a campaign? It is truly impressive.

Posted by: Matt | Feb 11, 2008 6:14:13 PM

Hillary's critiqued a lot because her husband was embroiled in a sex scandal, and she blamed it all on a "vast, right-wing conspiracy." I'm just sick of the Clintons. They bring this on themselves. Bill's impeachment froze government duing his last two years in office. And lets not forget, Hillary's failed healthcare plan gave the House and Senate back to the Republicans. No more Clintons! I'd rather vote McCain.

Posted by: Mike | Feb 11, 2008 5:39:05 PM

So many commentators have had different stories about Patti Solis Doyle leaving than Hillary told you. And although I don't expect her to air her campaign's dirty linen in public, I also don't expect her to LIE to me. These fabrications slip from her lips as if she almost believes them herself, but I honestly don't know how she looks in the mirror each morning.

Posted by: KateS | Feb 11, 2008 5:37:49 PM

I read these comments and it makes me fear that people are being lulled into a popularity contest, without a full debateof real issues.
Folks in this discussion should focus on that and the right candidate will emerge.
when common folks ague over the topics
I read in this forum it makes me glad that after all it is a republic.

Posted by: KEITH | Feb 11, 2008 5:17:32 PM

Why is it that Obama supporters tell us to go to his website. Why can't Obama articulate his positions himself? Don't question why you are compared to a cult when you operate the same way.

Posted by: geevill | Feb 11, 2008 4:31:29 PM

yoga2y,

My comments were exactly about the fact that Obama has just as strong a grasp of the issues as any other candidate, which people like you seem to keep trying to deny.

Do you even read his positions?

Posted by: will | Feb 11, 2008 3:51:06 PM

Obama Supporters,

You have all made my point! All your comments are about the horserace aspect and nothing on the issues. Obama won big this weekend. However, there are many voters that are just starting to focus on this election. The issues matter!

For a group that has a winning candidate, most of you sound like sour grapes. Why is it necessary to attack Hillary if Obama won? This race is not over. No one has answered my question about the debates. He doesn't have to agree to anything. But, if he is so great, the extra debates with Hillary should solidify his candidacy.

Posted by: yoga82y | Feb 11, 2008 3:46:39 PM

Vote by Race In Lousiana acording to CNN Exit Polls:
Clinton: White:68%Obama:30%
African-American Clinton:13% Obama:86%

Can someone really say that we are united?

Posted by: Noah | Feb 11, 2008 3:45:34 PM

Noah the cats out of the box. Now they won't vote for him and they will blame HRC. Obama needs to win so we have someone black to blame other then Oprah.

Posted by: Latasha | Feb 11, 2008 3:41:01 PM

Kate says:

"I think she's critiqued more than other candidates just because she's female."

Yea that's it. Couldn't be because her last name is .... uh.... I don't know ......... um Clinton? Maybe?

You go Girl.

Go HILL Go!

Posted by: The Commander Guy | Feb 11, 2008 3:38:55 PM

Reasons why a black men will NOT vote for Obama.

1.Obama candidacy is being used to claim that racism in America is essentially dead, killing the need for programs such as Affirmative Action and along with it civil rights leaders like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. If you Google Obama and Race or if you listen to analyst on News programs, it’s obvious that Obama's strong showing is being used to slam the door on the issue of race in America. Some entities want you to believe a fallacy of composition by suggesting to you that because some whites vote or support Obama that such serves as vouchers for the remainder of whites. Thus, if 20% of voting age white America is willing to vote for Obama, how does that logically imply that the remaining 80% who don’t are not potentially or in fact racist? How does a white person voting for Obama mean that I will not be racially profiled and pulled over by a white cop? How does that mean that I will not get denied a job by the hiring manager of a company, due to the fact that I am black? How does that mean I will not be charged a higher interest rate for a loan than an equally qualified white? How does that mean I will not be followed around and watched at an upscale store? How does that mean that I will not have a noose hung at my office? To suggest that because some whites are not racist it demonstrates that all whites are not racist is as absurd as suggesting that because some whites are racist that all are.

2. There is a high possibility that America will sink into the worst economic recession since the Great Depression in the next 5 years. If there is a black President in office, it will be seen subconsciously or consciously as the fault of the President. There are so many ominous economic signs such as a falling dollar, rising consumer and government debt, trade deficits, the loss of comparative advantage, outsourcing, high oil prices; inflation….the list goes on and on. There is no monetary of fiscal policy which will solve these problems. Our nation simply consumes more than it produces via our borrowing growth far exceeding our income growth. The American economy or GDP needs a downward correction so that consumption falls in line with production and our spending is based upon what we have earned and not what we borrow. Attempting to hold this off via monetary and fiscal policy, especially the former, makes the correction that much worse when it is forced upon us in the form of a deep recession or depression. As a Michigander, I witnessed the Decline of Detroit proper nearly totally blamed on Black leadership, and not the declining fortunes of the Auto Industry that gave it life.

3. His platform of “change” has little substance. Obama is popular because he gives great speeches about a vision for a different America. Yet, he has not explained how he has the power to essentially change the “System”. The only thing that he really has the power to change is the perception that a black people are hindered by race in America and or its corollary that whites in America are racist. Obama has not been asked many tough questions, especially questions with racial overtones. Such questions and his response to those questions will have a seesaw effect. His response will increase his support among blacks, but lower it among whites or increase it among whites but lower it among blacks. The only answer that will have a neutral effect is to avoid answering the question and simply use a slogan such as “Change” or “Working together” or “Getting along”. That way each side can interpret it as getting the other side to see things their way. In reality, however, in a representative republic such as our, the interest or side that will be favored is the majority rule, which is the side of whites.

4. John Edwards was the best choice for the Democrats based upon empirical evidence. Southern white males have been the formula for defeating the “Southern Strength” of the Republican Party. Johnson, Carter and Clinton were the only democrats to win office since Kennedy. Politics changed drastically after the Civil Rights laws were passed in the 60’s and many Southern whites left the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party as a result of democratic support for desegregation. Every since then, it has taken a Southern white male Democrat to win the presidency. Also, the best candidate for Democrats should be in sync with the Democratic candidate that Republicans despise the most, which is Clinton. I cannot help but use the analogy of how much Martin Luther King and Malcolm X were hated by whites in their time. The blacks that whites hated and feared the most were the blacks that were the best for our struggle. It may be true, following the same reasoning, that the Democrat most hated by Republicans is the Democrat best for liberals.

5. It’s easier for a white person in power to do the right thing towards blacks than it will be for a black person to do so. Unfortunately, it is often the case that when a black person is elevated to a position of power from a predominantly white source, they become harder on blacks. It maybe the case that they do not want to appear that they are showing favoritism towards blacks when their position of power is by virtue of whites. They may subconsciously feel that they must not only represent the white way of thinking, but must over compensate to demonstrate that way of thinking. They don’t want to risk alienating or angering the hand that is feeding their political viability. Consequently, a black person put in power by the white majority can often be the least likely to fight for policies that help the black masses. It’s tempting to fantasize that a black candidate can sneak into office by telling whites what they want to hear and then get into office and become a zealous advocate of black causes. However, there are to many checks and balances for that and power is so addictive that the office holder will not want to risk it, lest they or their party not be reelected.

Posted by: Noah | Feb 11, 2008 3:34:42 PM

I'm also getting sick of people calling Obama supporters a cult. It is a disservice to millions of Americans, and does nothing to raise the level of discourse.

READ HIS POSITION papers on his website, watch the interview called "Afternoon with Barack Obama", which I found at

This is a very smart man who has a substantive grasp of many critical issues, and IMO is a just a better candidate than Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: will | Feb 11, 2008 3:33:06 PM

What happens when Obama gets a chance for people in Ohio, Texas, and Pensylvania to familiarize with him and her big lead vanishes? How does she triangulate then??

Posted by: James | Feb 11, 2008 3:31:20 PM

She's not ahead in the popular vote. Only for super tuesday is she; but if you add SC, NV, IA and NH, she's slightly down. This weekends romp adds to that deficit.

Posted by: Mark from NY | Feb 11, 2008 3:30:12 PM

You got to love it - The dems are trying to squash the vote in view of the people. They have always tried to squash the vote before when it benefited them!

Posted by: spock | Feb 11, 2008 3:25:35 PM

I am a black female who at one time was going to vote for Hillary, that IS----until I saw Obama speak and Bill Clinton try to trivialize his candicy, and even subtly tried to inject the race card. JUST like she and him are doing with the States Obama is winning by large magins. It looks to me like Bill is getting desperate and it is showing but I think Hillary knows. Also, How many times can you trivialize ALL of these States Obama has won Sounds like Julianne to me, and I don't think it is going to work.

It's time for the Clintons to retire and travel. I think people are pretty tired of the Bushes, AND the Clintons,and their supposedly inheritence of the office of President..

Posted by: Lois Wadlington | Feb 11, 2008 3:22:25 PM

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