Just Words, Part 2

Agreed, Harley!

So much propoganda and deception coming from the Obama campaign that I can't believe a word they say. The thinking members of society have not been fooled by their shameless efforts to seduce unthinking voters. I hope they pay the price for this by LOSING. Vote for sane politics - Hillary Clinton.

I don't disagree with a re-do but I don't think it should be a caucus. It has to be a full primary or nothing at all. If not. Count them as is. The reason she wants them to count is because this race is so close. If you counted those two states since they did have record turnouts it would give some space to the REAL candidate.

Mike, are we coming together on something? Who said different camps cannot talk with each other? I appreciate this. No swearing, no stupidity, no useless trashing of the other side, just a polite give and take. Maybe there is hope for us democrats yet.

If FL and MI should count there must be a a campaign and new votes.

Mike, you do have a point with FL and Mich. Here is my concern: Will democrats from both states remember the harsh/kind words we all seem to recklessly use against or for them? After all it was a republican administration down in FL who moved the voting dates causing dems to turn on each other. In a democracy, which I believe in, I honestly see no alternative but counting them in if democrats honestly want to win the White House. I'm positive we disagree in this, but I refuse to cede a single state to republicans if I can do something to prevent this from happening in November. For me no single democrat, Hillary or Obama, is bigger than the hopes and dreams of the party itself. I would hope if Obama had won those states I would say the same.

I think Obamabuts is funnier, but too rude, and Hillbuts maybe too sexist.
But also there definitely are Hillabots too.

Wil, she says she has more than words, but also she is using her buzzwords and gestures and so forth, Obama is just more authentic. For me, it is scandalous, that Hillary wants to count Mich, and Florida.
She is ( again ) bending a party law.
And really look in their records. Omama has more experience(8 yrs.) as a senator than Hillary 6 years, and he worked hard in Illinois.
She was first lady for 8 years , OK, but does that give here more experience? Maybe the board of Walmart?

Of course not, Harley. Remember we talked about this in 2004?

or is it plagiarized if I say I got it from a good friend? LOL

Another Obamabot. (plagiarized by will)

Thats the difference. She told people he said it. Obama only told those words weren't his when called on it. I think you are REACHING now.

Nice spin Rachel but it appears you did not address Obama's uses of someone else's words. You did address Clinton's word usage now how about using your own logic you used here to address Obama's?

shelgirl, she said NOW I am really proud of America, which implies she wasn't before. Personally, I think it's again a ridiculous fishing in the accuracy of ones language.
But I am still not completely proud. Too much pride makes one lazy. And it will be hard work to give good reason to be proud again after 8 years of Bush fires.

If you think you using the race card makes me back down from anything your crazy. I was making a joke about Oprah. I'll put you in your place. Who's racist in America? I think the black vote is 90-10 for Obama and about 50-50 with white voters. Can you honestly say that 90 percent of African Americans are voting for Obama based on the issues. I think not.

There is a HUGE difference in what Obama did and what the other campaigns have done. He used a huge section of a speech and she used 2 words. Also Hillary isn't really running on the power of words like Obama is. Also like I said, when he borrows words it doesn't matter and when his wife uses horrible words we should just let that pass. I think that's the definition of a hypocrite

Thanks afroza.

Well, first to H...If Oprah si so scarey because she has white females under her spell; why are they the reason Hillary is still around.

Second, I am a Black American female and I know exactly what Michelle Obama meant when she said she felt really proud of America because I felt that same way..proud of being an American...not a Black American, for the first time in my life. Unfortunately, reading many of you here, listening to the media and of course to Hillary who made this all OKAY again, has brought be back to my senses. OR SHOULD I SAY MY PLACE.

Wil, one word answer, no two word answer: Surveillance, Guantanamo.

Obama didn't copy a speech, he just made one argument also a friend has used. The question is more: Can one stand behind his statements? The answer is of course Yes (w)he can!
I wonder how many phrases, arguments and buzzwords Hillary did subconsciously copy from Bill?

Or McCain, who copied from Bush senior: "Read my lips." Or is this one maybe from Clint Eastwood? Or King Richard I ?