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February 23, 2008 11:40 PM

Clinton scolds Obama in Cinci...Obama fires back in Akron....

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TO I.A.T. SMITH...

The "Unifier"?!? Does anyone ever look up facts, or just listen to the cable news. Labeling him as the unifier is creepy. The way people respond to him is very scary.IF he is the nominee, I will vote for McCain. We are not choosing a POPE, we are choosing a PRESIDENT.

Posted by: Catmacdee | Feb 24, 2008 4:50:45 PM

You TELL HIM, Hillary!!! How DARE he say in the last debate that "Democrats must stop the negative comments, and Democrats should lift people up, not tear them down"-----well, Mr. obama, you are contradicting yourself AGAIN, because YOU are tearing people down. Stop the confusion and smokescreens that seek to focus attention away from YOUR non-policy, Present-vote campaign.

Posted by: Is it Jan. 9, 2009 YET???? | Feb 24, 2008 2:53:53 PM

The problem with manufacturing is that the cost is necessarily higher in western countries because of the labor cost as compared to the third world countries. Then the goods will be more expensive and if a country is not competitive in prices it looses markets. So America as other european countries has to define where lies it's competitivity.Airplanes are not made in China yet. America is still labeled for high achievement in high technology. So it's not that bad yet but it has to redefine its dynamics so that the people can benefit from it. If you travel to third world countries you find out that americans still have a good life but of course things change fast and maybe it's time for the people to feel more responsible of the making of this country. You cannot just blame it on NAFTA. It would be too easy.

Posted by: jane | Feb 24, 2008 1:45:22 PM

Eight years ago George W. Bush was elected president not because he was the better fit for president. He wasn’t elected because he could have done a better job than Al Gore. It was a popularity contest. Americans viewed him as the guy that they could have a beer with. I see Barack Obama playing the same card. Stadiums full of people chanting his slogans, hailing him as if he were a golden calf. But when the honeymoon is over is his experience going to produce results or just more of the same? I feel that we need to prove to the American people that we are about more than just popularity. We need to show them that as democrats we are not only about social improvements for Americans, but we want to provide them with a government that the republican party cannot, which is efficient, candid, and most importantly competent.

Posted by: kelly | Feb 24, 2008 1:44:20 PM

I am one of millions that have been a victim of NAFTA. Losing good paying jobs in manufacturing should be a huge issue. The next president needs to support the common American worker. The problem is I can not figure out who will actually do that.

Posted by: Rick | Feb 24, 2008 1:02:07 PM

A simple check of dates will find that neither Hillary Rodham Clinton nor Barak Hussein Obama were members of the United States Senate when NAFTA was passed.

As such, neither candidate was able to cast a vote for or against the legislation regardless of what their stated position was at the time or is at present.

Clinton says that she will try to correct NAFTA, while Obama's position towards NAFTA is somewhat varied depending on which source is quoted.

McCain has supports free trade and suggest few, if any, restrictions on an open market policy mirroring accepted policy since the Reagan years. Huckabee apes the Republican party line.

Nader is the only one with any suggestion of substantitive change.

Looks like the Democrats will lose votes for the third election in a row.

Florida will count whether the Democrats want it to count or not.

Go Nader!

Posted by: Go Nader | Feb 24, 2008 11:22:47 AM

Uh, Hillary, NAFTA is going to hurt your changes real bad. It shipped manufacturing jobs out of the country. Manufacturing is our backbone. NAFTA really hurt industrial states like Ohio and we Texans have the Super Highway to fend off. Most of us don't want any part of it.

One thing about Texas and Ohio, along with Vermont and Rhode Island, we have had a long time to watch and get informed. We have also had a long time to look at the character of the candidates.

Obama has had huge turnouts at his rallies here in Texas and in Ohio. Oh, but you said Obama has to "stop speaches and huge rallies". And we are supposed to just accept that and your mandated health care without question?

Well Obama is gonna "Meet you in Ohio" just like he "MET YOU IN TEXAS". I have a strong feeling he will meet you with thousands and thousands of his supporters.

It is over for you Hillary. Your lack of character speaks for itself.

Posted by: Texans Standing Up | Feb 24, 2008 11:05:10 AM

Ralph Nader announces his candidacy for President on "Meet the Press" this morning:

"The issue is do they (Clinton, Huckabee, McCain, Obama) have the moral courage, do they have the fortitude to stand up to corporate powers and get things done for the American people. We have to shift the power from the few to the many."

An earlier statement by Mike Huckabee on CNN suggested that a Ralph Nader candidacy would pull votes away from the Democratic nominee.

"So naturally, Republicans would welcome his entry into the race," said Huckabee.

Outstanding!!!

Posted by: Go Nader | Feb 24, 2008 11:01:52 AM

The world has gone global. One cannot afford to shut from the global competition. NAFTA has to be corrected.
Even in Europe, everyone complains that they loose jobs because the goods are produced in China and in third world countries.
For instance the French try to keep up their global competitivity and at the same time try to deal with the domestic issues by helping the poor and the average working class with taxes on these products.
If you are rich and invest you probably do what everyone does, which is having production at the lowest costs possible which means have them made by China.
America has shifted from production to service business.
A good president will have to be able to deal with the global level and the domestic level. Hillary said she wants to correct NAFTA.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 24, 2008 10:38:32 AM

Catch the Tina Fey SNL Weekend Update last night.

Posted by: twinmom48 | Feb 24, 2008 9:56:19 AM

Obama is the most powerful candidate. You will see in the upcoming elections(smile).

Posted by: Dave | Feb 24, 2008 9:40:46 AM

Yes We Can! :)

Posted by: Dave | Feb 24, 2008 9:24:03 AM

JANE YOU Are not serious because Obama is already president. Vote or dont vote. He will rule the UNITED STATES!!!

Posted by: Dave | Feb 24, 2008 9:13:10 AM

OBAMA LOOSES JOBS FOR MINORITIES
Ms. Obama, VP Chicago Hosp, that charges minorities 6 times as much, isn’t cold hearted enough; she also caused hundreds to loose their 11.hr jobs, to be more efficient she said! In 05, elected to the BOD Westchester-based TreeHouse Foods, she received $12,000 and $33,000 from a subsidiaries, in Nov announced closing its La Junta, plant, that claimed the jobs of 153 workers, most of them Hispanic! Huge blow to a rural town jobs paid a starting wage of $11hr, Company pays top execs like MICHELLE OBAMA tens of millions a year while destroying middle-class America. Raises the question not only about corporate values but about Barrack Obama's own values. Specifically, while he bashes Wal-Mart, why does his wife, make $45,000 and up a year serving on the board of Chicago comp that pays her a very hefty amount of money while laying off mostly minority workers in economically deprived areas? No. 1 customer is Wal-Mart???
Obamas attack on middle class and minorities- The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama's presidential campaign. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004 Union member say senator did little to save jobs in the blue-collar town of 37,000. Obama connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, company's director’s records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaigns. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004.He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal!!!!if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come? Obama when faced with tough choices always gave in to pressure from the Bush administration or corporate lobbyists. Such as Obama voted for Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama voted with Republicans to allow credit card companies to raise interest rates over 30 percent, INCREASING STUDENT LOANS RATES AND FEES increasing hardship for families. Obama voted for one of Bush's top priorities - expanding Nafta to South America - even as President Bush obstructed all the top Democratic priorities. Obama voted with Bush to make it harder for ordinary people to hold big corporations accountable when they do things like sell toxic toys, poisonous pet food, human food or just plain rip you off.
Black voters are choosing black candidate based on skin color not merit and not what he can do to help our failing country. What a serious shame...we are giving away another election. Thank the media! Obamas speeches address just black voters. The same person who claims he is not running on race? It sure isn’t experience or who is best to run this country. Don’t believe it will work in the general election He truly had divided voters since SC win. No one is so naive as not to think that black resentment towards whites could render Senator Obama unelectable. NOW IT’S TIME FOR THE MEDIA TO SCRUTINIZE OBAMA LIKE THEY HAVE DONE TO EVERYOTHER NON-BLACK CANDIDATE. MEDIA HAS FAILED AMERICAN VOTERS

Posted by: Sherry | Feb 24, 2008 9:08:49 AM

THERE IS NO CHANGES WITH OBAMA AND HIS USUAL WASHINGTON POLITICAL TATICS EXCEPT THE MEDIAS HELP AT HIDING HIS RECORD OF SUPPORTING THE WAR AND BUSH. WHAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE AFRAID TO REALIZE. "Senator Obama has some questions to answer about his dealings with one of his largest contributors, Exelon, a big nuclear power company. Apparently he cut some deals behind closed doors to protect them from full disclosure in the nuclear industry."Obamas record shows he supports the war, voted twice in 2006 against bringing America's troops back home. He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal!!!!if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come? Obama when faced with tough choices always gave in to pressure from the Bush administration or corporate lobbyists. Such as Obama voted for Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama voted with Republicans to allow credit card companies to raise interest rates over 30 percent, INCREASING STUDENT LOANS RATES AND FEES increasing hardship for families. Obama voted for one of Bush's top priorities - expanding Nafta to South America - even as President Bush obstructed all the top Democratic priorities. Obama voted with Bush to make it harder for ordinary people to hold big corporations accountable when they do things like sell toxic toys, poisonous pet food, human food or just plain rip you off. Obama was the Senate's biggest Democratic advocate of subsidies for liquid coal, even though liquid coal produces twice the global warming pollution of the crude oil it's meant to replace and voted for increased subsidies, albeit with conditions.Obama, a Hamiltonian believer in free trade and supporters of globalization has lent his support to the "Hamilton Project formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and other 'Wall Street Democrats' to counter populist rebellion against corporate tendencies within the Democratic Party. Obama provided assistance to pro-war candidates (such as Joe Lieberman). Obama voted for "business-friendly 'tort reform' bill that rolls back working peoples' ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation...from corporations!!! Obama considers single payer universal health care too socialist and has stated that he prefers voluntary solutions. **He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. Abortion opponents see Obama's vote on medical care for aborted fetuses as a refusal to protect the helpless. Some have even accused him of supporting infanticide. He supported allowing retired police officers to carry concealed weapons, but opposed allowing people to use banned handguns to defend against intruders in their homes. And the list of sensitive topics goes on. With only a slim, two-year record in the U.S. Senate, Obama doesn't have many controversial congressional votes which political opponents can frame into attack ads. But his eight years as an Illinois state senator are sprinkled with potentially explosive land mines, such as his abortion and gun control votes. recent land purchase from a political supporter who is facing charges in an unrelated kickback scheme involving investment firms seeking state business. Obama has no substance. He has provided no solutions.

Posted by: joe | Feb 24, 2008 9:07:22 AM

Can Americans afford or sacrifice to go "Back in the Past" without their current necessities?

FYI: Following are manufactured in other countries?

Laptop, Computers, TV, Kitchen Applicance - iPods - Make in Japan, China
Toys - Made in China
Cosmetics - Made in France
Clothes - Made in China, Phillipine, Pakistan
Toys - Made in China
Beef - Made in Japan and China
Cars - Made in Europe, Korea, Mexico and China
Glass, Crystalware - MAde in India, China


Criticizing NAFTA will make you take U-turn whereas improving it may be helpful. Creating New opportunities, promoting innovation and educating the folks who lost the new jobs with new skills can help else it is long journey and might take a U-turn impacting economy.

I don' think Obama has any plan for NAFTA. He just criticizes it for political benefits. I want to see how much subsidies Obama can give to Manufacturers to keep all the jobs in the country. With the constraint of recession and Gas Cost going up, it will be interesting to see Obama's blue print for replacing NAFTA.

Posted by: Humm | Feb 24, 2008 9:06:45 AM

Obama has not been called scrutinized by the media like all the other candidates. We have been threw what thier character's is about. No one thinks they can touch his drug use, but doesn't that call into question his character. I am only a few years younger than Obama and CHOSE never to do cocaine or any other drug for that matter. It was his choice and goes to show his character and weakness as a person. A stronger person who has true convictions to one self would choose other wise.
And Obama supporters please do not say that it was due to his upbringing(which was rather comfortable compared to a lot of people) or his culture that surrounded him at the time. We all know the truth when it comes to his private schooling and Ivy league education.
He was afforded many opportunities that the average american wasn't, he chose to deal with resko, chose to smoke, chose to do cocaine, chose to live in Chicago(for his agenda). Everything about Obama has been for him and his agenda. He just puts a spin on his campaign with the "We" part, trying to make it about "you" for this year. But next will be a different subject. Beware of who you follow.

Posted by: Gina | Feb 24, 2008 8:42:24 AM

It is a good thing that there was a debate so the public can see what is what and not some kind of media editing that just shows what the media wants to show to influence the public. Shame on the biased media.
Hillary did well in the Texas debate. You BO supporters make your own point but don't expect others to buy into your feelings.Hillary Clinton should run as an independent in the general election and we will see what is what. BO will not be president.

Posted by: Jane | Feb 24, 2008 6:15:29 AM

Here's what Hillary said about NAFTA on page 182 of her 2003 book, Living History: "Creating a free trade zone in North America-The largest free trade zone in the world-would expand U.S. exports, create jobs and ensure that our economy was reaping the benefits, not the burdens of globalization. Although unpopular with labor unions, expanding trade opportunities was an important administration goal."

On page 231, she also called NAFTA, along with the Brady bill and the budget, "legislative victories" of then President Bill Clinton.

Posted by: tedregencia | Feb 24, 2008 5:50:11 AM

If Hillary is campaigning on her experience, she should then accept the failures or criticisms of her experience.

Posted by: Peace | Feb 24, 2008 5:41:59 AM

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